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(Stuff.co.nz)   Good news everyone, some guy named Derek has determined that there's no scientific medical evidence for drug addiction, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder or PTSD. Whew   (stuff.co.nz) divider line 40
    More: Asinine, post-traumatic stress disorders, forensic biologist, brain diseases, schizophrenia, incurable, diseases  
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10532 clicks; posted to Main » on 14 Jan 2013 at 2:47 AM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-01-14 03:08:14 AM
7 votes:
In comparison to genuine diseases like cancer, psychiatrists have yet to devise one single biological test to prove scientifically that any of their diseases actually exist. Why? Because they don't exist!
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2013-01-14 01:05:21 PM
6 votes:

david_gaithersburg: BronyMedic: david_gaithersburg: The actions of your ilk extend well beyond this message board.

How have you been oppressed by me and my ilk, oh victim of society?

It must be horrible to have the life view that anyone who doesn't suck your belief system's cock is coming to get you and take you to the camp.

.
What's it like living with the deaths of 20 mil on your hands?


Look, you can't blame BronyMedic for that. Your brain cells committed suicide due to their horrific working conditions.
2013-01-13 09:31:15 PM
5 votes:
I knew a guy named Derek who was a heroin addict. When he bought a pack of needles he always had a story for why he needed them. My favorite was when he said "I  need the needles for my bird. It's diabetic."
2013-01-14 04:15:15 AM
4 votes:
What is this I don't even chicken pot chicken pot chicken pot pie.
2013-01-14 03:15:20 AM
3 votes:
"...psychiatrists have yet to devise one single biological test to prove scientifically that any of their diseases actually exist. Why? Because they don't exist!"

Yeah! Stop faking, all you fakers! We're on to you. Especially you, "schizophrenics". Dirty liars.
2013-01-14 02:08:51 AM
3 votes:
He's a Derek. And Dereks don't run.
2013-01-14 01:08:54 AM
3 votes:
What an asinine Derek might look like:

cdn.buzznet.com
2013-01-14 12:04:37 AM
3 votes:
Were the Dominoes consulted?
2013-01-13 10:09:21 PM
3 votes:
I thought scientologists weren't welcome in nz?
2013-01-14 08:41:14 AM
2 votes:
on behalf of the dereks of this universe, I apologize.
someone from the guild will be by shortly to have a talk with derek.
2013-01-14 03:30:01 AM
2 votes:

433: ladyfortuna: Derek sounds like he's incredibly lame at parties.

Derek didn't get the invitation.  Again.


Derek came anyway.  Nobody talked to him.  Again.
2013-01-14 03:11:58 AM
2 votes:
Well, looks like we all dodged a bullet then.
2013-01-14 03:08:25 AM
2 votes:
Whew. I thought this was Derek Smart for a second.
2013-01-13 11:59:55 PM
2 votes:

Asa Phelps: I thought scientologists weren't welcome in nz?


Don't be glib, Matt.
2013-01-14 01:10:23 PM
1 votes:

ShuyaNanahara: david_gaithersburg: BronyMedic: david_gaithersburg: The actions of your ilk extend well beyond this message board.

How have you been oppressed by me and my ilk, oh victim of society?

It must be horrible to have the life view that anyone who doesn't suck your belief system's cock is coming to get you and take you to the camp.

.
What's it like living with the deaths of 20 mil on your hands?

Look, you can't blame BronyMedic for that. Your brain cells committed suicide due to their horrific working conditions.


I laughed out loud.
2013-01-14 01:07:30 PM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: BronyMedic: david_gaithersburg: The actions of your ilk extend well beyond this message board.

How have you been oppressed by me and my ilk, oh victim of society?

It must be horrible to have the life view that anyone who doesn't suck your belief system's cock is coming to get you and take you to the camp.

What's it like living with the deaths of 20 mil on your hands?


blogs.warwick.ac.uk
2013-01-14 12:44:22 PM
1 votes:
www.thelas.info
2013-01-14 11:27:27 AM
1 votes:

BronyMedic: david_gaithersburg: Well we saw today how quick the Fark mods took down the story of the mother using a gun to protect her children, so it's safe to say the liberalism is truly a disease.

Says the person who masturbates to a persecution complex so much it's a FARK meme.


It does give one an appreciation for what people like you put people through in Germany, USSR, Cuba, China, etc..
2013-01-14 06:07:46 AM
1 votes:

DKRainey: Oysterman: Personally, on the fence about addiction. Not sure what separates "I have a disease" from "this is an activity I enjoy; why do you want me to stop?".

But everything else there is giving off high theton levels.


Chemical dependency is what makes it an addiction. When your body goes through withdrawal because it does not have what it craves. Have you never seen what a heroine addict goes through?

Is that someone who cannot live without Wonder Woman?

Or Vanessa Williams?

Or Florence Nightingale?

Please explain in simple language.

2013-01-14 05:58:43 AM
1 votes:

fluffy2097: Fark ate my image. This was a legitimate pre-FDA medical treatment.
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What a legitimate over-the-counter medical treatment looked like before the FDA:

upload.wikimedia.org
2013-01-14 05:23:47 AM
1 votes:
Derek saves the day!! What healers and doctors couldn't do in centuries, Derek did in a few words. Yay Derek!
2013-01-14 05:19:44 AM
1 votes:

log_jammin: Securitywyrm: "It's not my fault, it's a disease."
Honestly, I agree with most of what is said. Drug addiction can be proven scientifically, but it is not a 'disease.' There is a lot to be said for how companies have a financial incentive to provide treatments instead of cures.
Imagine if right now, you could either develop a pill that would in one treatment completely cure AIDS and be easy to manufacture... OR... a difficult to manufacture pill that delays the symptoms for as long as the pill is taken daily. Which would make you more money?

do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream. You know when fluoridation first began? Nineteen hundred and forty-six. 1946, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.


Uh, log_jammin, log_jammin , listen... tell me, tell me, log_jammin . When did you first... become... well, develop this theory?
2013-01-14 05:06:00 AM
1 votes:
There's no scientific medical evidence for god, either. Coincidence?

/Wait, which argument did I just fallate?
//Argumentum ad populum and argumentum ad ignorantiam is/are my middle name/names.
///Ha! I made up a word which sounds similar to a word associated with wieners!
2013-01-14 04:47:14 AM
1 votes:
Jackass.

Psychologists are the pesudo-scientific busy bodies.
Psychiatrists have a medical degree.

As for the rest, we've plenty of ways of figuring out chemical imbalances in the brain. All of them involve slicing the brain into small cubes. It's not exactly a therapeutic option.
2013-01-14 04:17:33 AM
1 votes:

MidnightVoyager: Why the hell did he toss in schizophrenia and bipolar disorder and PTSD with addictions?


because he's stupid. And if there is one thing the internet is good at, it's letting stupid people express their stupid opinions.
2013-01-14 04:12:09 AM
1 votes:
Lionel Mandrake:

When we introduce a chemical into your system the voices/rage/mood swings go away!!

Sorry, no. The rage & mood swings go away because I'm too sedated to do anything but drool & shiat myself; the voices stay, and they laugh at me because I drool & shiat myself.

But hey, what you read on a web site is infinitely more valuable than the testimony of one who's BT,DT; go right on thinking "OMG I'M AN EXPERT!1!"
2013-01-14 03:52:44 AM
1 votes:
juvandy:

I note this guy says nothing about nicotine. I'd advise someone get him a few cans of copenhagen every day for a few years and then have him try to get off it.

I quit smoking in April 2000 after 25 years of 2 packs a day. It wasn't easy, I'll grant there are physiological mechanisms to be overcome and so on, but I'd have to say anybody who claims they just can't quit is a weakling who just doesn't want to. All it takes is motivation: mine was a hot babe 10 years younger whose nipples ALWAYS protrude who's very allergic to cigarette smoke, and having had chronic bronchitis and daily asthma attacks for three years.

I won't go so far as to say physical addiction is impossible or imaginary, just that a lot of the rhetoric is overblown. E.g, most of the people in 12 step programs and/or rehab are there because they got caught drunk driving or possessing an "illegal substance" and cut a deal, not because they actually hit bottom and decided on their own they needed to Let Go & Let God free them from this evil curse. Most so-called addicts are only habituated: they only think they can't do without it.

Of course dying from sudden barbiturate or alcohol withdrawal is a real possibility, but if you were able to simply quit drinking without getting DTs then you weren't physically addicted, just a temporary weakling with a bad habit you gave up.

(Does pointing that out make me a pedophile apologist or an antisemite? )
2013-01-14 03:41:10 AM
1 votes:

TorqueToad: Whew. I thought this was Derek Smart for a second.


Derek Smart.
2013-01-14 03:23:23 AM
1 votes:
Derek sounds like he's incredibly lame at parties.
2013-01-14 03:21:02 AM
1 votes:
Also from the "writer"

Don't ban smoking, ban obesity

The World Health Organisation says health is a complete state of physical, mental, and social well-being, not just an absence of disease or infirmity, which is why many smokers say smoking improves their health.
2013-01-14 03:17:42 AM
1 votes:
Welcome to Stuff Nation. I think it's a cunning ploy to raise the status of print journalists - Stuff Nation invites every cretin who failed school cert economics to pontificate at length on a subject so frustrating that it's called the "dismal science."
2013-01-14 03:15:30 AM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: I had a feeling that the common sense in that article wouldn't be received well here.


common sense = uneducated
2013-01-14 03:13:22 AM
1 votes:
I've always felt addiction is a symptom of a different, usually more serious, but less treatable underlying condition. You get addicted to something in your efforts to distance yourself from something else. This can apply to addictions ranging from hoarding to porn to hoarding porn.

/just speaking from personal experience
//and the experience of every addict I've ever spoken with
2013-01-14 03:11:59 AM
1 votes:

Oysterman: Personally, on the fence about addiction. Not sure what separates "I have a disease" from "this is an activity I enjoy; why do you want me to stop?".


never quit smoking have you?cause if you ever do, you don't sit around thinking "I want a cigarette just because I really enjoy them."
2013-01-14 03:01:46 AM
1 votes:
Beware of excessive asshattery! Counting down days until this makes FOX news..
2013-01-14 02:59:34 AM
1 votes:
wow. the headline is 100% accurate.

It's just some guy named derek making baseless claims.
2013-01-14 02:52:47 AM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: I had a feeling that the common sense in that article wouldn't be received well here.


There wasn't common sense, only solipsism.
2013-01-14 02:50:46 AM
1 votes:
I had a feeling that the common sense in that article wouldn't be received well here.
2013-01-14 12:40:10 AM
1 votes:
However, even today, there is no scientific medical evidence that any of these so-called diseases exist.

Not for alcoholism. Not for drug addiction. Not for schizophrenia. Not for bipolar disorder, nor post-traumatic stress disorder.


Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong.

And so I stopped reading.
2013-01-14 12:08:11 AM
1 votes:
And don't EVEN get him started about fibromyalgia.
 
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