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(CTV News)   Think your alimony sucks? Try $175,000 PER MONTH   (ctvnews.ca) divider line 165
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2013-01-14 02:23:51 AM  

thisiszombocom: thisiszombocom: davidphogan: thisiszombocom: davidphogan: Any rich Farkettes want to marry me? I'm housebroken, and like long threads in the rain.

what are your thoughts on pina coladas?

They could be worse. They could be better as well. Like, if the rum were just mixed with root beer, or cola, or something that doesn't taste like crap, but I have no problem with them. They're better than a long walk in the rain, which I've done a lot in Portland. That's one stereotype about this city that's true.

hmm... i guess my obvious joke was not so obvious

Link

or maybe you did. i dunno. its late.

i go bed now


Heh. Buenos, amigo. I thought my rejoke was funny.
 
2013-01-14 02:54:30 AM  
It sounds like a lot... but its only $2 million a year. The guys got half a billion dollars.... I think he'll be OK.
 
2013-01-14 02:56:01 AM  

Mock26: $175,000 Canadian is like, what, $155.93 American?


$178,000. Or if you state it in terms of health care coverage, a few million.
 
2013-01-14 03:04:50 AM  
OH MY GOD YOU GUYS, that lady is on my PhD thesis committee! I had no idea she was so loaded.

/probably a different christy mccain
 
2013-01-14 03:07:07 AM  

FishyFred: ajgeek: Out of curiosity. If one party goes belly up, are they still obligated to pay full alimony, despite having a drastic lifestyle change themselves? Because right now it sounds like alimony is a winning lottery ticket for farking the right piece of meat and nothing else.

You have to go to the court and petition to have it changed. Chances are it will be granted. But a lot of people don't know that, so the poor schlub who loses his $15/hr job is stuck trying to keep up on child support payments of less than $1,000 per month and can't make it.


That and they are usually hostile at the child support office so they drag their feet. What? You got laid off and make minimum wage now? Tough beans. Pay.
 
2013-01-14 03:10:52 AM  
"Silvio Berlusconi has been told by a Milan court to pay nearly €100,000 a day in maintenance to his former actress wife..."
 
2013-01-14 03:43:59 AM  
All prenups are signed under duress, "Hey, if you don't sign the prenup we're not getting married." All contracts are signed under duress, "Hey, if you don't sign the contract we're not doing business with you." For a judge to over rule some contract that 2 parties have agreed to is unconscionable. I hope she gets over turned, impeached and disbarred.

thefabempire.com

DA biatch SET ME UP
 
mjg
2013-01-14 04:11:11 AM  
i.ytimg.com

That kid was always trouble.
 
2013-01-14 04:19:52 AM  
If it flies, floats, or farks, lease it.
 
2013-01-14 04:29:32 AM  
Now that gay marriage is becoming more common, I'm curious to see how the alimony laws will work for those divorces. One guy stays home with their adopted Asian baby, while the other goes to school to become a doctor. They get divorced 15 years later after the doctor has become an extremely successful plastic surgeon, with mansions, cars, a jet, the whole rich guy thing. Does the stay at home dad get $175,000 a month because he got used to it?
 
2013-01-14 04:51:49 AM  
Hey now, we can't afford to be milking that job creator out of 175k a month. That's just unconstitutional! Perhaps the T.E.A Party patriots can come to the defense of his right to not be fleeced

/ yeah, i suck at trolling, what of it?
 
2013-01-14 04:53:23 AM  
It's not even 1% of what he's worth.

It's literally pocket change.

175,000 a month for 10 years comes out to 21 million.

He's worth over a billion.

I'm sure he's crying into his other 980,000 million dollars.
 
2013-01-14 04:54:06 AM  
er 980 million.

or 980,000,000
 
2013-01-14 05:00:53 AM  

fluffy2097: It's not even 1% of what he's worth.

It's literally pocket change.

175,000 a month for 10 years comes out to 21 million.

He's worth over a billion.

I'm sure he's crying into his other 980,000 million dollars.


So could I ask Bill Gates for $200,000 a year? He wouldn't even miss it.

It's not a question of whether he can afford it, it's a question of does she deserve it.
 
2013-01-14 05:02:16 AM  

ng2810: The woman ITFA gave 30+ years to this guy!


Gave?
 
2013-01-14 05:41:21 AM  
She spends more per month on a personal trainer then many people make in a month.

Rich people problems.
 
2013-01-14 05:53:16 AM  
NewportBarGuy: "I've never understood the court's decision to side with the "style that you've grown accustomed" argument."

No kidding. Try losing your job and see if you can get unemployment insurance in the style I've grown accustomed to. Apparently, having a uterus and letting automatic biological processes take over for nine months deserves special treatment.
 
2013-01-14 06:08:28 AM  

Soupysales: So could I ask Bill Gates for $200,000 a year? He wouldn't even miss it.

It's not a question of whether he can afford it, it's a question of does she deserve it.


Have you been married to Bill Gates for 30 years? Were you forced to stay in that marriage because Bill forced you to sign an agreement that if you leave you'll be disowned and have nothing?

/you might have some standing then.
//No farking tears for a billionaire who can't manage his family life.
 
2013-01-14 06:38:21 AM  

fluffy2097: Soupysales: So could I ask Bill Gates for $200,000 a year? He wouldn't even miss it.

It's not a question of whether he can afford it, it's a question of does she deserve it.

Have you been married to Bill Gates for 30 years? Were you forced to stay in that marriage because Bill forced you to sign an agreement that if you leave you'll be disowned and have nothing?

/you might have some standing then.
//No farking tears for a billionaire who can't manage his family life.


The agreement she signed said that if a divorce happened she would get 7 million dollars and the family home. You don't think that that is fair?
 
2013-01-14 07:10:51 AM  

SecretAgentWoman: I married the wrong damn men.

I can't even get child support out of the losers, let alone alimony.

/not bitter
//ok, I'm bitter


Child support is overrated. My ex owes me about 20K, but it's worth not having to see her.
 
2013-01-14 07:15:03 AM  

ongbok: The agreement she signed said that if a divorce happened she would get 7 million dollars and the family home. You don't think that that is fair?


You mean that agreement that was ruled illegal and thrown out because it was manipulative as all hell?

No, I don't think that's fair.

You only think it's unfair because money has value to you. He's a billionaire. 21 million, even 50 million is chump change to him. It's nothing. Nothing at all.
 
2013-01-14 08:00:33 AM  
but women are equal, and don't need someone to pay for them to live on their own right? And they are smart enough that they know exactly what they were doing when they signed the pre-nup, right? They are also powerful enough they dont need to bench-shop for a female judge to hear their case, right?
 
2013-01-14 08:05:34 AM  
*reads article, makes jerking off motion*

Sucks to be him.
 
2013-01-14 08:14:56 AM  
Dave Foley had a discussion about his alimony/child support - something like 17K per month because they got divorced when he was on a weekly sitcom. Even though the show ended he is still liable for the same payments which he claims are 3x his current salary.
 
2013-01-14 08:15:30 AM  
I got out of alimony by threatening to burn down all of our investments to liquid assets for division.
BUT... she still get "child support" every month because she is allowed to choose to work part time.
She has a higher degree and higher earning potential than I do in a field with a LOT of openings, and the court jut lets her slide by on my tab because she likes working part time (for the children).
 
2013-01-14 08:15:43 AM  

SevenizGud: The solution is: don't get married. Don't knock any biatches up. If you are uber-loaded, then get fixed. Make sure nobody ever uses your address for any billing. Never have any joint accounts. Never hold yourself out as spouses. Leave a massive paper trail that demonstrates the relationship is not monogamous, that you have no intent for it to be permanent, and that you are not co-habitating.


Bonus: to make sure the paper trail will stand up, it helps to make sure the relationship is actually not monogamous.

Your post is in effect my approach to relationships. Oddly enough (coming from a mid-20's here, so the effects of Epic Partytime might still be switched on and this will change when the women in my "range" get older) it doesn't seem to bother the sort of people I want to have relations with at all.
 
2013-01-14 08:17:24 AM  
My ex was really shocked when the mediators told him how much he would be paying in child support and alimony. He had a very inexperienced lawyer who was a friend of the family. She had told him to expect half the amount he actually ended up paying. I use the money to care for our five children while I go to school. I wish I was able to support myself and the kids without his cash, but that isn't reality. He has a masters degree, and was the breadwinner. I had a high school diploma and was told many times in our marriage to quit my job or stay out of school because he wanted no part of child raising or household duties. One of the jobs I had during our marriage I really loved, and was hoping to advance in the company. He pushed me to quit after 8 months because he couldn't handle doing any of "my job" (watching the kids or laundry, ect.). I could have used the time we were married to further my education or build a career, but that would have involved support from him. With the alimony I can do it now and not have the kids suffer in the process. For me alimony wasn't a check to get him back, or make him pay. It is the opportunity be able to take care of myself. With a little bit of time, and school I will get there.
 
2013-01-14 08:25:00 AM  

7th Son of a 7th Son: Would've been cheaper just to kill her.


Wellllllll.... probably.

/doesn't condone murder
//but I've never been married either
 
2013-01-14 08:34:02 AM  

5monkeys: I had a high school diploma and was told many times in our marriage to quit my job or stay out of school because he wanted no part of child raising or household duties


This right here is what support payments are for.
 
2013-01-14 08:36:05 AM  
Argh, doubleposting

5monkeys: He pushed me to quit after 8 months because he couldn't handle doing any of "my job" (watching the kids or laundry, ect.).


But at the same time, wow. What a dillhole. Sounds like you got outta there about six kids too late.

/wasn't there
//easy to say now
 
2013-01-14 08:39:49 AM  

ongbok: fluffy2097: Soupysales: So could I ask Bill Gates for $200,000 a year? He wouldn't even miss it.

It's not a question of whether he can afford it, it's a question of does she deserve it.

Have you been married to Bill Gates for 30 years? Were you forced to stay in that marriage because Bill forced you to sign an agreement that if you leave you'll be disowned and have nothing?

/you might have some standing then.
//No farking tears for a billionaire who can't manage his family life.

The agreement she signed said that if a divorce happened she would get 7 million dollars and the family home. You don't think that that is fair?


The agreement was signed 16 years into a 30 year marriage and served to benefit him, and only him. Had she refused to sign it, he would have significantly less wealth - huge benefit to him, but what did she get out of it? The joy of seeing her (now ex-) husband inherit a lot of money? That doesn't sound like a contract that would hold up in court.

I really don't see why she should get less than half of the assets acquired during the course of the marriage (take their net worth, including salary and retirement, subtract his net worth in 1981, divide by two, and subtract off her assets and salary/retirement). If she gets less, why shouldn't he be paying her? She was an equal party to the marriage - if he didn't like that, he shouldn't have married her to begin with.

Of course, regardless of what happened here, everyone involved is still filthy rich. There's just no sympathy available for either party.
 
2013-01-14 08:42:52 AM  
Who's more pathetic, the dumbass dads and ex husbands who put themselves in a position to be hosed by an ex and a female judge, or the shiatty ex wives who use the courts to exact revenge and abuse the system and fabricate stories about the guys in order to do so?  How about we point and laugh at the judges who take out their own miserable lives failures on the man or woman who is in the sorry position of needing their services to begin with?

You all fail.  Of course, only your kids will show any lasting impacts from it.  But you all have their best interests at heart, don't you.
 
2013-01-14 08:52:21 AM  

Mitrovarr: Giltric: 19-26 is the new newborn-18

Wow...just..wow.

Yeah, well, if people don't like it, they can pay young people enough to live on, not require degrees for fields that blatantly don't need them, and don't make people run up a ton of debt for college if they do need it. It's not that today's 20-somethings don't want to be independent, but the deck is stacked against them in like a dozen different ways.


When did young people start believing they should make enough to live without room mates? I did what you described through college. It wasnt tough.
 
2013-01-14 08:53:05 AM  

ajgeek: Out of curiosity. If one party goes belly up, are they still obligated to pay full alimony, despite having a drastic lifestyle change themselves? Because right now it sounds like alimony is a winning lottery ticket for farking the right piece of meat and nothing else.


That's exactly how it is. I'm not even sure what basis judges use to award spousal welfare as there is no constitutional right to a comfortable lifestyle.
 
2013-01-14 08:53:12 AM  

Mitrovarr: Giltric: 19-26 is the new newborn-18

Wow...just..wow.

Yeah, well, if people don't like it, they can pay young people enough to live on, not require degrees for fields that blatantly don't need them, and don't make people run up a ton of debt for college if they do need it. It's not that today's 20-somethings don't want to be independent, but the deck is stacked against them in like a dozen different ways.


Oh. And what are your views on obamacare since it raised the price of insurance on the young?
 
2013-01-14 09:02:58 AM  
Fail for the man.

Do what some people do. Live in separate houses, never to live together again. And still be married. He'd have paid less.
 
2013-01-14 09:07:23 AM  

SecretAgentWoman: I married the wrong damn men.

I can't even get child support out of the losers, let alone alimony.

/not bitter
//ok, I'm bitter


Well I'm helping my biatch of an ex pay for her child, my stepson. Why? Cause I was there since he was born and he calls me daddy. But does she get a dime? No. fark her.

/Marries me, then wants to be "independent".
//Very Bitter
 
2013-01-14 09:29:28 AM  

eKonk: The agreement was signed 16 years into a 30 year marriage and served to benefit him, and only him. Had she refused to sign it, he would have significantly less wealth - huge benefit to him, but what did she get out of it? The joy of seeing her (now ex-) husband inherit a lot of money? That doesn't sound like a contract that would hold up in court.


Wow, SERIOUSLY? How did I miss that detail? (I know, I know, rtfa). Up until now I thought she'd signed this contract before getting married. You can't just pull money off the table once the game's already started. Disregard my last and all after hello.
 
2013-01-14 09:44:23 AM  

Flakeloaf: eKonk: The agreement was signed 16 years into a 30 year marriage and served to benefit him, and only him. Had she refused to sign it, he would have significantly less wealth - huge benefit to him, but what did she get out of it? The joy of seeing her (now ex-) husband inherit a lot of money? That doesn't sound like a contract that would hold up in court.

Wow, SERIOUSLY? How did I miss that detail? (I know, I know, rtfa). Up until now I thought she'd signed this contract before getting married. You can't just pull money off the table once the game's already started. Disregard my last and all after hello.


Yeah, generally judges frown upon post-nups, especially when pushed on the couple by a third party over a decade and a half into their marriage.

They were married for 30 years and she's getting two million a year from a family fortune/business worth 3.2 billion. As a percentage, she's not exactly being greedy.
 
2013-01-14 10:13:29 AM  
Paying spousal support sucks. Especially since it cancels out any child support I would have gotten for my underage daughter. The bastard pays 0.
 
2013-01-14 10:46:01 AM  
Yaay! Cash and prizes because she wanted out! Yaaay!
 
2013-01-14 11:31:09 AM  

MyRandomName: Oh. And what are your views on obamacare since it raised the price of insurance on the young?


Well, the bill introduced the option for parents to keep their kids on their insurance until they are much older, so it makes it a lot easier for parents to help their kids. If the parents don't want or aren't able to do this, it also introduced programs to help the disadvantaged buy insurance. If people in this age bracket can afford insurance, the greatly increased protection under the new laws should be worth the small increase in cost, since lifetime maximums and such are much higher now and a lot of sneaky exclusions are eliminated.

In any case almost any change is worthwhile, because as it is now most people in that age bracket either just don't have insurance, or their insurance is total crap. My student insurance previously had a lifetime max of 100k (now fixed to 2 million, although I'm not on it anymore). I'm pretty sure their cancer care plan was to throw some plastic down and hand you a revolver.
 
2013-01-14 12:05:45 PM  

Flakeloaf: Argh, doubleposting

5monkeys: He pushed me to quit after 8 months because he couldn't handle doing any of "my job" (watching the kids or laundry, ect.).

But at the same time, wow. What a dillhole. Sounds like you got outta there about six kids too late.

/wasn't there
//easy to say now


The court said the same thing as your Boobies. That support was there to help the family he was leaving become self sufficient, not to maintain a lifestyle.

This post is correct too. He was/is a dillhole who I stayed with way too long. I was 18 when we got married and too naive to see the red flags. I knew it was bad two kids in but tried my damndest to make it work. Then after years of his whoring around and alcohol abuse I drew a line in the sand. His exact words were " get a job, not only a job, a career. Make enough to take care of yourself and the kids. I don't want to be a husband or full time dad anymore. Maybe I can do this every other weekend." He didn't just mean weekend dad, he meant every other weekend with me too. I may have been stupid for staying married to him for all those years, but after that statement I was done. I lawyered up and filed for divorce. He truly believed he was going to move out, keep the girlfriend he had at that moment, and stay married to me while I worked and supported everything. Plus come a few times a month for sexytime with me. When I pointed out that I did not have the skills or education to do that he told me that it was not his problem.
 
2013-01-14 12:47:40 PM  
Ah, the marriage industry. It would behoove you to avoid being involved in it unless you have a uterus or a Juris Doctorate.
 
2013-01-14 12:49:55 PM  
I can take care of your problem permanently for one payment.
 
2013-01-14 01:23:39 PM  
After 30 years, she should be entitled to half of his assets, pre-nup be damned.
 
2013-01-14 01:29:02 PM  

mahkno: After 30 years, she should be entitled to half of his assets, pre-nup be damned.


It wasn't even a pre-nup. This was something forced on her after she was already married for 15 years.
 
2013-01-14 01:32:02 PM  
Ever wonder if it's a good idea to take a woman to have and to hold, to love, honor and cherish, and forsake all others, as a companion and a helpmate for all of your days, if the first thing you have to do is sit down with lawyers?
 
2013-01-14 02:09:14 PM  

Flakeloaf: It's not about what he's lost, it's about what she's unjustly gained.


Typical Conservative mindset.

/doesn't matter if I lose so long as the other guy doesn't win
 
2013-01-14 02:10:51 PM  
I don't have a problem with that, after all the judge only makes sure that the wealth trickles down, like the rich said it would
 
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