olddinosaur: Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

F me. There's one in every thread...

olddinosaur:
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

I am sure her she is grateful her country feels so kindly towards her, as to deprive her of a deadly weapon with which she might easily harm someone, like those innocent young men who were just having some carefree youthful fun.

Seriously, dude? "This is Fark" only excuses so much in the way of trolling. But just in case you are so thick as to be sincere, if India was as awash in handguns as America is, odds are the minibus driver would have had one too.

Time for a little PSA for everyone... without further ado...

Ten rape prevention tips:

1. Don't put drugs in women's drinks.

2. When you see a woman walking by herself, leave her alone.

3. If you pull over to help a woman whose car has broken down, remember not to rape her.

4. If you are in an elevator and a woman gets in, don't rape her.

5. When you encounter a woman who is asleep, the safest course of action is to not rape her.

6. Never creep into a woman's home through an unlocked door or window, or spring out at her from between parked cars, or rape her.

7. Remember, people go to the laundry room to do their laundry. Do not attempt to molest someone who is alone in a laundry room.

8. Use the Buddy System! If it is inconvenient for you to stop yourself from raping women, ask a trusted friend to accompany you at all times.

9. Carry a rape whistle. If you find that you are about to rape someone, blow the whistle until someone comes to stop you.

10. Don't rape people.

And you thought greyhound was bad...

I joke, but seriously: misogynistic culture -> gang rapes and shiat
For all these people who want to torture and kill these rapists, there is a whole culture that is supporting rape's foreplay, like 'eve-teasing', wife beating, and slut shaming. It is all capped off with victim blaming. Reject the idea that your women are objects and you will help to keep them from being treated as such.

What a cesspool of a country.

Somacandra:
What_Would_Jimi_Do: real question? can a women walk around with that thing in them and not be uncomfortable?

According to the creator, it feels about like a tampon. I'm sure it varies. Its designed for specific situations where she thinks she'll be vulnerable--mass transit in India certainly would count.

That dentata* might just completely incapacitate a rapist with pain and shock. Too bad the other five guys might not be happy that their friend was hurt.

* the 2nd time "Snow Crash" has come up on Fark tonight, huh

This is going to cause a stir. I watch a lot of international news on TV and the earlier rape/murder is all they could speak of for a few weeks.

India is interesting. It's very diverse and equality of sexes is written into their constitution.

How this country can launch satellites into orbit and develop nuclear weapons and yet also foster a culture of gang-rape is truly amazing.

I'm not going to be racist about this. I'm just going to say that the whole species of human beings sucks.

Maybe we can just offer to let any woman who wants to leave the really rapey countries and come to live in North America/Europe/places where you expect to see prison time for this sort of shiat?

It would be interesting to see what those places would be like if almost all the women disappeared.

whatshisname: olddinosaur: Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

F me. There's one in every thread...

Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

I am sure her she is grateful her country feels so kindly towards her, as to deprive her of a deadly weapon with which she might easily harm someone, like those innocent young men who were just having some carefree youthful fun.

TaterTot_HotDish: Super_pope: quickdraw: I would like to see more emphasis on teaching boys not to rape.

"Okay Timmy, don't do something awful and criminal"
"Alrighty!"
"Same for you billy"
"fark that I love to hurt things. Doing bad stuff is fun."
"Unfortunately I can't have you put down. Off with you you little rascals."

Do you not get how this works?

By definition people who hurt other people viciously and or habitually are not LIKE us. The military had to implement a huge psych program to try and break down the normal human inhibition to hurting people because during WW2 they were estimating only 1 in four people in any combat situation actually fired their weapon at uniformed enemy soldiers on the field of farking battle. They either didn't shoot at all or fired wildly into the damn air.

Violence runs rampant in shiatty places because we combine lack of opportunity and hopelessness together with ghetoization and poor policing to create areas where humans are socialized to do violence. If you aren't from an area like that, think about the incidence rate of violence in your every day life versus being out late at bars. I have literally never seen an adult human get in a fist fight in a public place before, when they weren't drunk.

Rape has very a different meaning than a fist fight, for both the aggressor and the victim. Plenty of middle-class and rich boys and men have raped women... and for the same reason you cite: socialization. So change the socialization. That's what people mean when they say 'teach boys not to rape.'

Oh alright well THAT'S a simple and practical solution. We'll alter the way people are socialized ACROSS THE ENTIRE WORLD. Just forgetting about all those real crazies who will tell us all off for wanting to be colonialists and destroy other cultures because they have different values or whatever, "We just need to teach boys not to rape," is a really convenient way to say, "I want to complain about this while doing absolutely nothing." Its basically the same thing as offering prayers to all powerful Feminismo for all men everywhere to just be good. Why can't you just all be good?

I dunno, have we EVER successfully turned around a disadvantaged crap town or borough or city nice and non-violent before without transplanting better people into it a'la gentrification? Pretty much no. Basically the greatest triumph in re-engineering a society in my opinion is the civil rights movement, and truly accomplishing those goals is still a LONG way off, and in parts of the south it still doesn't take much for "provocation" before assholes are driving around dragging nooses behind their cars.

You're talking about a 200+ year solution to a problem that only the most developed place on earth even care about right now and just tossing it off like its nothing. We should just perfect nuclear fusion. We should just stop telomeres from being stripped when a cell divides. We should just invent telepathy. We should just create one world language.

"We should just go out with a friend or two, keep our eyes on people, and probably carry weapons until things change enough that we maybe don't have to." is not a statement like that. I am all too aware the women live with fears I don't. I don't like it, I wish there was more I could do about it. Maybe in 50 or 100 years the things I do in my own small way to make the world a better place will bear fruit.

ktybear: Yzziefrog: Stop telling women how not to get raped, and start teaching boys not to rape.

miss diminutive: So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.

About half of aborted children are female. Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women.

I read a short story once about how, in the future, the UN/NATO/Whatever actually encourages some societies to prefer male children to female. It solves a lot of problems whose root cause is overpopulation, but leaves women in the position of having to travel with armed guards everywhere. The actual story involves a UN inspector from North America visiting India and being horrified despite being told that there is no more poverty or disease or hunger. And then she's horribly gang raped.

It was a weird story. And I am reminded of it now for some reason.

I think it was in an anthology called "How To Save The World". I wish I still had that book. It had some interesting stories, like the scientists who invent a virus that changes people's race and unleash it at a KKK rally.....

whatshisname: olddinosaur: Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

F me. There's one in every thread...

It's easier to just add them to the Ignore list and move.

No Such Agency: olddinosaur:
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

I am sure her she is grateful her country feels so kindly towards her, as to deprive her of a deadly weapon with which she might easily harm someone, like those innocent young men who were just having some carefree youthful fun.

Seriously, dude? "This is Fark" only excuses so much in the way of trolling. But just in case you are so thick as to be sincere, if India was as awash in handguns as America is, odds are the minibus driver would have had one too.

Or, you know, the rapists.

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and bet the majority of rapists know what they're doing is bad. Some will try to make excuses, but they know.

GungFu: ktybear: Yzziefrog: Stop telling women how not to get raped, and start teaching boys not to rape.

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This is such annoying crap. We DO teach people not to rape, but ultimately you need to be responsible for your own safety. My girlfriend is really militant about don't blame the victim, this is the bad guy's fault he shouldn't have done this! Wtf did you expect? He's the BAD GUY. If he wasn't the bad guy, he wouldn't be doing this shiat.

This woman did nothing wrong and did not deserve for this to happen any more than the last girl did. I feel bad thinking about what happened to her and do my best to put it out of my mind because of how overwhelmingly awful it is. Unfortunately if your solution is, "Turn India into a western culture with a fully developed infrastructure, none of the crushing poverty that tends to breed an overpopulation of criminally disposed people, and a far less corrupt and far more effective police force... that's not an immediate or realistic solution. "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

late to the party and all, but i'd just like to point out that we're talking about how people should have progressive attitudes towards women in a country where "Some 665 million Indians practice open defecation, more than half the global total.". it's a culture of people who can't even be bothered to find a bathroom if there's a nearby sidewalk. or street or field or river bank or pile of garbage that someone dumped on the sidewalk on top of the poop that was already there.

none of that excuses a culture that's permissive of rape, of course, but any dialogue on the matter should take into regard that we're talking about a bunch of street-pooping savages here.

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quickdraw: The Voice of Doom: olddinosaur
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

A guns wouldn't have changed anything.
But had the guys been circumcised as infants, their desensitized dicks rubbing against their balloon pants wouldn't have made them horny enough to think about raping her.
But in the end, it's all her fault:
If she hadn't tipped the bus driver less than the standard 25%, he wouldn't have abducted her; instead he would have pointed out to her that still wearing the tight spandex from cycling to the bus stop was just asking to be raped, given that the bus was full of illegal immigrants on their way home from stealing a local guy's job. And we all know how those people are.

TVOD! I was just thinking about you. Can you write a filter for the poli threads that changes the word "gun" to "penis?" It would make the brazillions of gun threads much more entertaining.

"penis nut"

"penis grabbers"

"I'm a penis enthusiast."

"I own several penises."

Yeah, that would be awesome.

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quickdraw: The USA (with all our guns and rights) is no better than India when it comes to prosecuting rapists.

If cops straight-up ignored all rape calls and took bribes and booze from rapists, you'd start being remotely correct.

msirois: They said on CNN the other night that there is a rape every 52 seconds or minute (can't remember now) in India. Either way. That's insane !!

No no no. You're supposed to put that as "They said on CNN the other night that a woman in India is raped every 52 seconds."

That way the rest of us could reply with comments about how awful her life is and how she ever manages to eat, sleep and go to the toilet in between rapes.

Man, it is sure fun watching everyone get on their hobby horses and rock the shiat out of them...

computerguyUT: Well, one of their holy men told everyone that it's okay and that it's partially the female's fault.

Might as well have rung the gang rape dinner bell.

Dumbasses.

That holy man is about as popular as pastor Terry Jones. No body gives an actual fark

Has anybody pointed out that x out of y people enjoy gang rape? 'Cause would that ever be funny.

mraudacia: so in a country over populated by men specifically because they tend to abort women to avoid paying that dowlry thing, its dangerous to be a woman?

who knew.

India has 26 states and dowry practice was prevalent in maybe 3 states. Even in those places, since girls are limited now a days, there are cases of reverse dowry being reported. In delhi where these rape incidents occurred, dowry is not an issue at all. It's just that North Indian's have a high proportion of stupid farks.

/ why yes, I'm from South India

The demotivational posters in this thread really point out yet another glaring flaw with "majority rule."

What_Would_Jimi_Do: Somacandra: What_Would_Jimi_Do: real question? can a women walk around with that thing in them and not be uncomfortable?

According to the creator, it feels about like a tampon. I'm sure it varies. Its designed for specific situations where she thinks she'll be vulnerable--mass transit in India certainly would count.

couldn't the possible perp(s) just remove it first?

and what about ass rape and oral rape?

Where do they think they live? Steubenville, Ohio?

6 out of 7 republicans enjoy chicken rape

Happy Hours: This is going to cause a stir. I watch a lot of international news on TV and the earlier rape/murder is all they could speak of for a few weeks.

India is interesting. It's very diverse and equality of sexes is written into their constitution.

How this country can launch satellites into orbit and develop nuclear weapons and yet also foster a culture of gang-rape is truly amazing.

I'm not going to be racist about this. I'm just going to say that the whole species of human beings sucks.

There is no culture of gangrape. This happens to be scumbags taking advantage of a situation. Let me explain. These guys raped because they thought they will get away with it. It's hard to catch criminals in India, unless you really look for them. Anybody can run and hide unless well publicized. Sure they will lose everything, but what if they don't have anything in the first place?

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I don't know much about it - but, presumably, it can be safely removed by someone who knows it is there. If they became popular, surely rapists would catch on and check first, right?

Somacandra: What_Would_Jimi_Do: real question? can a women walk around with that thing in them and not be uncomfortable?

According to the creator, it feels about like a tampon. I'm sure it varies. Its designed for specific situations where she thinks she'll be vulnerable--mass transit in India certainly would count.

couldn't the possible perp(s) just remove it first?

Mija: miss diminutive: So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.

About half of aborted children are female. Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women.

If you don't have anything to contribute to the topic and hand,GTFO.

Looks like this one forgot to take God's name, hold their hands and feet, and call them brothers also.

olddinosaur
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

A guns wouldn't have changed anything.
But had the guys been circumcised as infants, their desensitized dicks rubbing against their balloon pants wouldn't have made them horny enough to think about raping her.
But in the end, it's all her fault:
If she hadn't tipped the bus driver less than the standard 25%, he wouldn't have abducted her; instead he would have pointed out to her that still wearing the tight spandex from cycling to the bus stop was just asking to be raped, given that the bus was full of illegal immigrants on their way home from stealing a local guy's job. And we all know how those people are.

miss diminutive: So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.

judging all Indians based on a (relatively) few of them is sort of like saying all of the US is made up of gangmembers.

And I'll bust a cap in your ass if you dare to disagree with me.

born_yesterday: No Such Agency: olddinosaur:
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

I am sure her she is grateful her country feels so kindly towards her, as to deprive her of a deadly weapon with which she might easily harm someone, like those innocent young men who were just having some carefree youthful fun.

Seriously, dude? "This is Fark" only excuses so much in the way of trolling. But just in case you are so thick as to be sincere, if India was as awash in handguns as America is, odds are the minibus driver would have had one too.

Or, you know, the rapists.

I don't know man, rapists don't seem like the type of people to use guns to force people to have non-consexual sex with them.

if you ban vaginal penetrating pipes, only the rapists will have vaginal penetrating pipes

plus, how did the rapists get past the indian people smell?

fusillade762: Forget cricket, gang rape is India's new national sport.

They've got some tough competition from South Africa.