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2013-01-13 08:20:50 PM
Forget cricket, gang rape is India's new national sport.
 
2013-01-13 08:28:10 PM
RISE UP

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Something tells me this group is about to get a whole lot bigger.
 
2013-01-13 08:29:29 PM

fusillade762: Forget cricket, gang rape is India's new national sport.


They've got some tough competition from South Africa.
 
2013-01-13 08:29:49 PM
Blazing Saddles reference.
 
2013-01-13 08:29:53 PM
if you ban vaginal penetrating pipes, only the rapists will have vaginal penetrating pipes

plus, how did the rapists get past the indian people smell?
 
2013-01-13 08:30:03 PM
4 out of 5 people enjoy gang rape
 
2013-01-13 08:30:47 PM
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

I am sure her she is grateful her country feels so kindly towards her, as to deprive her of a deadly weapon with which she might easily harm someone, like those innocent young men who were just having some carefree youthful fun.
 
2013-01-13 08:30:52 PM
And how.
 
2013-01-13 08:31:10 PM
p.bfram.es
 
2013-01-13 08:31:22 PM
They gross!!
 
2013-01-13 08:32:16 PM

olddinosaur: Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?


F me. There's one in every thread...
 
2013-01-13 08:32:36 PM
So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.
 
2013-01-13 08:32:48 PM

thisiszombocom: [p.bfram.es image 420x532]


Hah
 
2013-01-13 08:33:46 PM

whatshisname: olddinosaur: Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

F me. There's one in every thread...

 
2013-01-13 08:33:56 PM
"The next day, the suspects dropped her off at her village"

well that was very thoughtful. sentence abjured!

/ proud member of the Fark Mysogynist Brigade
// you know you live it sugartits
 
2013-01-13 08:33:59 PM
olddinosaur:
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

I am sure her she is grateful her country feels so kindly towards her, as to deprive her of a deadly weapon with which she might easily harm someone, like those innocent young men who were just having some carefree youthful fun.


Seriously, dude? "This is Fark" only excuses so much in the way of trolling. But just in case you are so thick as to be sincere, if India was as awash in handguns as America is, odds are the minibus driver would have had one too.
 
2013-01-13 08:35:08 PM

No Such Agency: olddinosaur:
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

I am sure her she is grateful her country feels so kindly towards her, as to deprive her of a deadly weapon with which she might easily harm someone, like those innocent young men who were just having some carefree youthful fun.

Seriously, dude? "This is Fark" only excuses so much in the way of trolling. But just in case you are so thick as to be sincere, if India was as awash in handguns as America is, odds are the minibus driver would have had one too.


Or, you know, the rapists.
 
2013-01-13 08:37:17 PM

born_yesterday: No Such Agency: olddinosaur:
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

I am sure her she is grateful her country feels so kindly towards her, as to deprive her of a deadly weapon with which she might easily harm someone, like those innocent young men who were just having some carefree youthful fun.

Seriously, dude? "This is Fark" only excuses so much in the way of trolling. But just in case you are so thick as to be sincere, if India was as awash in handguns as America is, odds are the minibus driver would have had one too.

Or, you know, the rapists.


I don't know man, rapists don't seem like the type of people to use guns to force people to have non-consexual sex with them.
 
2013-01-13 08:37:35 PM
Maybe we can just offer to let any woman who wants to leave the really rapey countries and come to live in North America/Europe/places where you expect to see prison time for this sort of shiat?

It would be interesting to see what those places would be like if almost all the women disappeared.
 
2013-01-13 08:37:41 PM
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2013-01-13 08:37:52 PM
This is going to cause a stir. I watch a lot of international news on TV and the earlier rape/murder is all they could speak of for a few weeks.

India is interesting. It's very diverse and equality of sexes is written into their constitution.

How this country can launch satellites into orbit and develop nuclear weapons and yet also foster a culture of gang-rape is truly amazing.

I'm not going to be racist about this. I'm just going to say that the whole species of human beings sucks.
 
2013-01-13 08:38:16 PM
www.demotivationalposters.org
 
2013-01-13 08:39:19 PM

whatshisname: olddinosaur: Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

F me. There's one in every thread...


It's easier to just add them to the Ignore list and move.
 
2013-01-13 08:39:22 PM

No Such Agency: olddinosaur:
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

I am sure her she is grateful her country feels so kindly towards her, as to deprive her of a deadly weapon with which she might easily harm someone, like those innocent young men who were just having some carefree youthful fun.

Seriously, dude? "This is Fark" only excuses so much in the way of trolling. But just in case you are so thick as to be sincere, if India was as awash in handguns as America is, odds are the minibus driver would have had one too.


I don't care what they do in India, it is their country to run as they see fit. I am worried it will happen in Amerika, sooner than you might expect.

Think about that when the gang bangers knock down your door in the middle of the night and shoot your children in the back, and say it was okay because they thought there might be some drugs, or maybe someone heard something about some drugs, or maybe they thought someone said someone to somebody about some drugs or something.

Make sure you thank them politely, some of those kids might have grown up to become junkies.

"---stirbt hoeflich und sagt: 'danke sehr.'" --- Erich Kaestner
 
2013-01-13 08:39:25 PM
Wow.

So many replies, yet no one blamed, Indian culture, bad call center, Islam or any of the other things that usually get blamed within the first five posts.

FARK losing its teeth?
 
2013-01-13 08:40:02 PM
I read a short story once about how, in the future, the UN/NATO/Whatever actually encourages some societies to prefer male children to female. It solves a lot of problems whose root cause is overpopulation, but leaves women in the position of having to travel with armed guards everywhere. The actual story involves a UN inspector from North America visiting India and being horrified despite being told that there is no more poverty or disease or hunger. And then she's horribly gang raped.

It was a weird story. And I am reminded of it now for some reason.

I think it was in an anthology called "How To Save The World". I wish I still had that book. It had some interesting stories, like the scientists who invent a virus that changes people's race and unleash it at a KKK rally.....
 
2013-01-13 08:40:28 PM
i.imgur.com

Its time for India to take a cue from Iran and train its women as ninjas.
 
2013-01-13 08:41:41 PM
i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-01-13 08:42:09 PM

mayIFark: FARK losing its teeth?


MEN SUCK ASS

/male
 
2013-01-13 08:42:24 PM

miss diminutive: So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.


About half of aborted children are female. Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women.
 
2013-01-13 08:44:03 PM

miss diminutive: So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.


judging all Indians based on a (relatively) few of them is sort of like saying all of the US is made up of gangmembers.

And I'll bust a cap in your ass if you dare to disagree with me.
 
2013-01-13 08:45:38 PM

olddinosaur: Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

I am sure her she is grateful her country feels so kindly towards her, as to deprive her of a deadly weapon with which she might easily harm someone, like those innocent young men who were just having some carefree youthful fun.


I guess if she was Sylvia Browne, otherwise she'd get sucker punched or get her hands controlled before she'd get a gun. We are talking 6 against 1 in a bus here, not a burglar crashes into the living room and you grab your gun in the bedroom.
 
2013-01-13 08:45:47 PM
thisiszombocom's is hotter than the other statistic memes therefore wins.
 
2013-01-13 08:47:13 PM
olddinosaur
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?


A guns wouldn't have changed anything.
But had the guys been circumcised as infants, their desensitized dicks rubbing against their balloon pants wouldn't have made them horny enough to think about raping her.
But in the end, it's all her fault:
If she hadn't tipped the bus driver less than the standard 25%, he wouldn't have abducted her; instead he would have pointed out to her that still wearing the tight spandex from cycling to the bus stop was just asking to be raped, given that the bus was full of illegal immigrants on their way home from stealing a local guy's job. And we all know how those people are.
 
2013-01-13 08:47:30 PM

arkitipintel.com i.imgur.com


Mass free distribution of anti-rape condoms. Its the only way to be sure

 
2013-01-13 08:47:52 PM
Looks like this one forgot to take God's name, hold their hands and feet, and call them brothers also.
 
2013-01-13 08:49:03 PM
I find it tragic I have seen worse crime files come across my desk when I was an army paralegal in Fort Hood.
 
2013-01-13 08:49:51 PM

Mija: miss diminutive: So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.

About half of aborted children are female. Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women.


If you don't have anything to contribute to the topic and hand,GTFO.
 
2013-01-13 08:51:46 PM

Ronin_S: Maybe we can just offer to let any woman who wants to leave the really rapey countries and come to live in North America/Europe/places where you expect to see prison time for this sort of shiat?

It would be interesting to see what those places would be like if almost all the women disappeared.


At least in America there'd be a good chance (sadly not 100%) that, were such a situation to arise, some of the bystanders would open a 40 lb box of whoopass on the attackers.
 
2013-01-13 08:52:04 PM

born_yesterday: No Such Agency: olddinosaur:
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

I am sure her she is grateful her country feels so kindly towards her, as to deprive her of a deadly weapon with which she might easily harm someone, like those innocent young men who were just having some carefree youthful fun.

Seriously, dude? "This is Fark" only excuses so much in the way of trolling. But just in case you are so thick as to be sincere, if India was as awash in handguns as America is, odds are the minibus driver would have had one too.

Or, you know, the rapists.


Sure.

But here's the thing....you can only get so dead. Without a gun - a woman against even just one man (assuming an average woman against an average man) is pretty much screwed. The man will be physically stronger and larger than her. He can physically force her to do whatever he wants, with very little fear of being hurt.

When you've got 2 or more guys against one girl; unarmed, they can trivially kill her. She poses no threat to them.

Without guns - she is powerless and they can kill her.
With guns - it increases the stakes, but it does help to level the playing field.

Even an old lady with a gun is now capable of putting a bullet through the skull of the toughest SOB on that bus. Yes, they still out number her. And yes, they can still kill her. But the difference is, she's no longer a defenseless victim. She poses a serious risk of death to, at least one, of the attackers.

In all seriousness, if I knew seven guys were going to try and gang-rape me; I'd rather take my chances with a gun than without.
 
2013-01-13 08:52:36 PM

12349876: olddinosaur: Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

I am sure her she is grateful her country feels so kindly towards her, as to deprive her of a deadly weapon with which she might easily harm someone, like those innocent young men who were just having some carefree youthful fun.

I guess if she was Sylvia Browne, otherwise she'd get sucker punched or get her hands controlled before she'd get a gun. We are talking 6 against 1 in a bus here, not a burglar crashes into the living room and you grab your gun in the bedroom.


No no no, don't you watch movies?
Good guys with guns can dispatch multiple enemies at one time using uncanny gymnastic prowess and dead on aim while, at worst, sustaining only a flesh wound to the upper arm. If these women only had guns they'd be just like the chicks from Underworld and Resident Evil and none of this stuff would be happening.
 
2013-01-13 08:53:14 PM

mayIFark: Wow.

So many replies, yet no one blamed, Indian culture, bad call center, Islam or any of the other things that usually get blamed within the first five posts.

FARK losing its teeth?



Self hating gays won out over Americans hating Islamists.
 
2013-01-13 08:53:18 PM

Somacandra: [arkitipintel.com image 400x266] [i.imgur.com image 200x300]
Mass free distribution of anti-rape condoms. Its the only way to be sure


real question? can a women walk around with that thing in them and not be uncomfortable?
 
2013-01-13 08:53:18 PM

Mija: Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women


i.imgur.com

Its the progressives that actually do things the are proven to reduce abortion rates. Wake me up when "pro-lifers" have done anything comparable.
 
2013-01-13 08:53:40 PM

100 Watt Walrus: Mija: miss diminutive: So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.

About half of aborted children are female. Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women.

If you don't have anything to contribute to the topic and hand,GTFO.


What did you contribute exactly?
 
2013-01-13 08:53:48 PM

Mija: miss diminutive: So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.

About half of aborted children are female. Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women.


Please write a 100,000 word essay on language and prove that you understand the difference between abortion and infanticide and then come back and participate in a discussion with the adults. Thanks.
 
2013-01-13 08:54:10 PM

The Voice of Doom: olddinosaur
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

A guns wouldn't have changed anything.
But had the guys been circumcised as infants, their desensitized dicks rubbing against their balloon pants wouldn't have made them horny enough to think about raping her.
But in the end, it's all her fault:
If she hadn't tipped the bus driver less than the standard 25%, he wouldn't have abducted her; instead he would have pointed out to her that still wearing the tight spandex from cycling to the bus stop was just asking to be raped, given that the bus was full of illegal immigrants on their way home from stealing a local guy's job. And we all know how those people are.


**sniff** i love you, man.
 
2013-01-13 08:56:20 PM
Obviously it was legitimate, otherwise she could've fought them off.
 
2013-01-13 08:56:54 PM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: real question? can a women walk around with that thing in them and not be uncomfortable?


According to the creator, it feels about like a tampon. I'm sure it varies. Its designed for specific situations where she thinks she'll be vulnerable--mass transit in India certainly would count.
 
2013-01-13 08:57:37 PM

Somacandra: [arkitipintel.com image 400x266] [i.imgur.com image 200x300]
Mass free distribution of anti-rape condoms. Its the only way to be sure


also, how many of you could fit into something like that? looks like a tight fit to me
 
2013-01-13 08:59:31 PM

Somacandra: What_Would_Jimi_Do: real question? can a women walk around with that thing in them and not be uncomfortable?

According to the creator, it feels about like a tampon. I'm sure it varies. Its designed for specific situations where she thinks she'll be vulnerable--mass transit in India certainly would count.


couldn't the possible perp(s) just remove it first?
 
2013-01-13 09:00:47 PM
Somacandra:
What_Would_Jimi_Do: real question? can a women walk around with that thing in them and not be uncomfortable?

According to the creator, it feels about like a tampon. I'm sure it varies. Its designed for specific situations where she thinks she'll be vulnerable--mass transit in India certainly would count.


That dentata* might just completely incapacitate a rapist with pain and shock. Too bad the other five guys might not be happy that their friend was hurt.

* the 2nd time "Snow Crash" has come up on Fark tonight, huh
 
2013-01-13 09:00:50 PM
7 out of 8 Indians enjoy gang rape.
 
2013-01-13 09:01:25 PM

Somacandra: [arkitipintel.com image 400x266] [i.imgur.com image 200x300]
Mass free distribution of anti-rape condoms. Its the only way to be sure


I don't know much about it - but, presumably, it can be safely removed by someone who knows it is there. If they became popular, surely rapists would catch on and check first, right?
 
2013-01-13 09:01:47 PM

Happy Hours: This is going to cause a stir. I watch a lot of international news on TV and the earlier rape/murder is all they could speak of for a few weeks.

India is interesting. It's very diverse and equality of sexes is written into their constitution.

How this country can launch satellites into orbit and develop nuclear weapons and yet also foster a culture of gang-rape is truly amazing.

I'm not going to be racist about this. I'm just going to say that the whole species of human beings sucks.


There is no culture of gangrape. This happens to be scumbags taking advantage of a situation. Let me explain. These guys raped because they thought they will get away with it. It's hard to catch criminals in India, unless you really look for them. Anybody can run and hide unless well publicized. Sure they will lose everything, but what if they don't have anything in the first place?
 
2013-01-13 09:01:51 PM
6 out of 7 republicans enjoy chicken rape
 
2013-01-13 09:02:09 PM

Happy Hours: miss diminutive: So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.

judging all Indians based on a (relatively) few of them is sort of like saying all of the US is made up of gangmembers.

And I'll bust a cap in your ass if you dare to disagree with me.


COME AT ME, BRO.

But yes, I was painting with a broad brush there. Rapes do happen all over the world, so India isn't exceptional in that regard. But the backlash and protests that started recently didn't begin just because of handful of gang rapes; women in that country feel (justifiably, I think) that they've been marginalized and disenfranchised by their system and treated as second class citizens and these sentiments has been building for some time.

Mija: About half of aborted children are female. Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women.


Rape AND abortion thread? Why not add religion to the mix?

/your god sucks
 
2013-01-13 09:02:42 PM
Where do they think they live? Steubenville, Ohio?
 
2013-01-13 09:04:18 PM

born_yesterday: No Such Agency: olddinosaur:
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

I am sure her she is grateful her country feels so kindly towards her, as to deprive her of a deadly weapon with which she might easily harm someone, like those innocent young men who were just having some carefree youthful fun.

Seriously, dude? "This is Fark" only excuses so much in the way of trolling. But just in case you are so thick as to be sincere, if India was as awash in handguns as America is, odds are the minibus driver would have had one too.

Or, you know, the rapists.


In this case, the bus driver was one of the rapists.
 
2013-01-13 09:05:56 PM

Mija: miss diminutive: So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.

About half of aborted children are female. Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women.


Abortion is legal, while murder is defined as ILLEGAL killing, so, not sure where you're trying to go with that...
 
2013-01-13 09:08:01 PM

divx88: Obviously it was legitimate, otherwise she could've fought them off.


No no, if it was legitimate her magic egg cells would shut down the rapey sperms.
 
2013-01-13 09:11:37 PM

PunGent: Mija: miss diminutive: So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.

About half of aborted children are female. Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women.

Abortion is legal, while murder is defined as ILLEGAL killing, so, not sure where you're trying to go with that...


My guess is troll because "half of all x are female" means "half of all x" are male, too.
 
2013-01-13 09:11:50 PM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: Somacandra: What_Would_Jimi_Do: real question? can a women walk around with that thing in them and not be uncomfortable?

According to the creator, it feels about like a tampon. I'm sure it varies. Its designed for specific situations where she thinks she'll be vulnerable--mass transit in India certainly would count.

couldn't the possible perp(s) just remove it first?


and what about ass rape and oral rape?
 
2013-01-13 09:13:52 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: 4 out of 5 people enjoy gang rape


Pretty sure this wins best worst joke ever.
 
2013-01-13 09:13:54 PM

Somacandra: [arkitipintel.com image 400x266] [i.imgur.com image 200x300]
Mass free distribution of anti-rape condoms. Its the only way to be sure


Yeah, shredding the first guy's penis isn't going to make his buddies want to beat you to death at all.
 
2013-01-13 09:14:20 PM

Mija: miss diminutive: So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.

About half of aborted children are female. Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women.


Since fetuses are not children, that would be about half of zero.

By contrast, many more than half of all victims of infanticide are female children. This leads to a lopsided male-to-female ratio in the adult population, which in turn leads to higher sex-crime rates.
 
2013-01-13 09:15:22 PM
At least in America there'd be a good chance (sadly not 100%) that, were such a situation to arise, some of the bystanders would open a 40 lb box of whoopass on the attackers.

How many that live in Stubenville Ohio?
 
2013-01-13 09:16:29 PM
At least the police took the report this time. Small consolation, though. Damn.
 
2013-01-13 09:18:54 PM

thisiszombocom: if you ban vaginal penetrating pipes, only the rapists will have vaginal penetrating pipes

plus, how did the rapists get past the indian people smell?


wtf?
 
2013-01-13 09:19:23 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: born_yesterday: No Such Agency: olddinosaur:
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

I am sure her she is grateful her country feels so kindly towards her, as to deprive her of a deadly weapon with which she might easily harm someone, like those innocent young men who were just having some carefree youthful fun.

Seriously, dude? "This is Fark" only excuses so much in the way of trolling. But just in case you are so thick as to be sincere, if India was as awash in handguns as America is, odds are the minibus driver would have had one too.

Or, you know, the rapists.

Sure.

But here's the thing....you can only get so dead. Without a gun - a woman against even just one man (assuming an average woman against an average man) is pretty much screwed. The man will be physically stronger and larger than her. He can physically force her to do whatever he wants, with very little fear of being hurt.

When you've got 2 or more guys against one girl; unarmed, they can trivially kill her. She poses no threat to them.

Without guns - she is powerless and they can kill her.
With guns - it increases the stakes, but it does help to level the playing field.

Even an old lady with a gun is now capable of putting a bullet through the skull of the toughest SOB on that bus. Yes, they still out number her. And yes, they can still kill her. But the difference is, she's no longer a defenseless victim. She poses a serious risk of death to, at least one, of the attackers.

In all seriousness, if I knew seven guys were going to try and gang-rape me; I'd rather take my chances with a gun than without.


Now, now... We don't need all your logic and well thought out reasoning on here, this is fark after all.
 
2013-01-13 09:19:29 PM

The Voice of Doom: olddinosaur
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

A guns wouldn't have changed anything.
But had the guys been circumcised as infants, their desensitized dicks rubbing against their balloon pants wouldn't have made them horny enough to think about raping her.
But in the end, it's all her fault:
If she hadn't tipped the bus driver less than the standard 25%, he wouldn't have abducted her; instead he would have pointed out to her that still wearing the tight spandex from cycling to the bus stop was just asking to be raped, given that the bus was full of illegal immigrants on their way home from stealing a local guy's job. And we all know how those people are.


TVOD! I was just thinking about you. Can you write a filter for the poli threads that changes the word "gun" to "penis?" It would make the brazillions of gun threads much more entertaining.
 
2013-01-13 09:19:55 PM
Considering what happened last month, she should have known better. I mean, she knew that riding buses meant being raped, so obviously she was asking for it. I bet she wanted it and then her husband found out so she made-up some story about being gang-raped.

The slattern should be stoned.
 
2013-01-13 09:20:22 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: 6 out of 7 republicans enjoy chicken rape


how many of the chickens enjoy it?
 
2013-01-13 09:22:06 PM

jnapier: At least in America there'd be a good chance (sadly not 100%) that, were such a situation to arise, some of the bystanders would open a 40 lb box of whoopass on the attackers.

How many that live in Stubenville Ohio?


Having been to Steubenville, Ohio, I think perhaps the whoopass delivery trucks don't stop there.
 
2013-01-13 09:22:33 PM
The demotivational posters in this thread really point out yet another glaring flaw with "majority rule."
 
2013-01-13 09:22:47 PM

Somacandra: Mija: Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women

[i.imgur.com image 496x287]

Its the progressives that actually do things the are proven to reduce abortion rates. Wake me up when "pro-lifers" have done anything comparable.


"Just say no" lectures from fetus fetishists always work. I'm told that if a woman holds an aspirin between her knees she can't get preggers at all.
 
2013-01-13 09:23:13 PM

Bucky Katt: At least the police took the report this time. Small consolation, though. Damn.


This and the immediate willingness of the woman to come forward were essential to the quick apprehension and bringing proper consequences to this type of horrific crime in the future.
 
2013-01-13 09:24:16 PM

thisiszombocom: [i.chzbgr.com image 500x255]


So, at least we know Paul Ryan's Fark handle now.
 
2013-01-13 09:24:24 PM

Gaseous Anomaly: Ronin_S: Maybe we can just offer to let any woman who wants to leave the really rapey countries and come to live in North America/Europe/places where you expect to see prison time for this sort of shiat?

It would be interesting to see what those places would be like if almost all the women disappeared.

At least in America there'd be a good chance (sadly not 100%) that, were such a situation to arise, some of the bystanders would open a 40 lb box of whoopass on the attackers.


There were no bystanders.
 
2013-01-13 09:25:07 PM

Somacandra:  
Mass free distribution of anti-rape condoms. Its the only way to be sure


That's a real thing?
 
2013-01-13 09:26:53 PM

Dracolich: The demotivational posters in this thread really point out yet another glaring flaw with "majority rule."


Dark humor is dark. If you think anyone posting those would actually want a woman to go through the trauma of a gang rape, perhaps you need to seriously rethink your Internet browsing habits.
 
2013-01-13 09:27:03 PM
www.freeinfosociety.com

- She got graped.
- Graped? You mean raped?
- Nah, graped. There was a bunch of them.
 
2013-01-13 09:27:48 PM
Too bad she didn't have her protection.

www.gunholstersunlimited.com
 
2013-01-13 09:29:11 PM

Bucky Katt: thisiszombocom: if you ban vaginal penetrating pipes, only the rapists will have vaginal penetrating pipes

plus, how did the rapists get past the indian people smell?

wtf?


He is talking about the curry smell.

/no judgement either way. stereotyping is bad and funny sometimes.
 
2013-01-13 09:30:35 PM
so in a country over populated by men specifically because they tend to abort women to avoid paying that dowlry thing, its dangerous to be a woman?

who knew.
 
2013-01-13 09:31:24 PM
What a cesspool of a country.
 
2013-01-13 09:32:12 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: But here's the thing....you can only get so dead. Without a gun - a woman against even just one man (assuming an average woman against an average man) is pretty much screwed. The man will be physically stronger and larger than her. He can physically force her to do whatever he wants, with very little fear of being hurt.

When you've got 2 or more guys against one girl; unarmed, they can trivially kill her. She poses no threat to them.

Without guns - she is powerless and they can kill her.
With guns - it increases the stakes, but it does help to level the playing field.

Even an old lady with a gun is now capable of putting a bullet through the skull of the toughest SOB on that bus. Yes, they still out number her. And yes, they can still kill her. But the difference is, she's no longer a defenseless victim. She poses a serious risk of death to, at least one, of the attackers.

In all seriousness, if I knew seven guys were going to try and gang-rape me; I'd rather take my chances with a gun than without.


But in a male-centric society like India, it's unlikely women would have easy access to weapons. They'd arm all the men since they are the ones that are traditionally supposed to defend the women. In that scenario, it would be socially unacceptable for a woman to carry a gun, and there are males who would go out of their way to put her back in her place.

The issue is not about what weapon a woman needs to defend herself, but about the social attitudes that make it necessary for her to think about how she should defend herself.

Stop telling women how not to get raped, and start teaching boys not to rape.
 
2013-01-13 09:35:03 PM

Yzziefrog: Fark_Guy_Rob: But here's the thing....you can only get so dead. Without a gun - a woman against even just one man (assuming an average woman against an average man) is pretty much screwed. The man will be physically stronger and larger than her. He can physically force her to do whatever he wants, with very little fear of being hurt.

When you've got 2 or more guys against one girl; unarmed, they can trivially kill her. She poses no threat to them.

Without guns - she is powerless and they can kill her.
With guns - it increases the stakes, but it does help to level the playing field.

Even an old lady with a gun is now capable of putting a bullet through the skull of the toughest SOB on that bus. Yes, they still out number her. And yes, they can still kill her. But the difference is, she's no longer a defenseless victim. She poses a serious risk of death to, at least one, of the attackers.

In all seriousness, if I knew seven guys were going to try and gang-rape me; I'd rather take my chances with a gun than without.

But in a male-centric society like India, it's unlikely women would have easy access to weapons. They'd arm all the men since they are the ones that are traditionally supposed to defend the women. In that scenario, it would be socially unacceptable for a woman to carry a gun, and there are males who would go out of their way to put her back in her place.

The issue is not about what weapon a woman needs to defend herself, but about the social attitudes that make it necessary for her to think about how she should defend herself.

Stop telling women how not to get raped, and start teaching boys not to rape.


"Hey men, stop raping women."
"fark you, we do what we want."

Now what? Back at square one, and the woman still needs to be able to defend herself.
 
2013-01-13 09:35:51 PM

Mija: miss diminutive: So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.

About half of aborted children are female. Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women.


How is that not progressive?
 
2013-01-13 09:36:00 PM
I am bad for imagining his rant with an Indian accent...
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-13 09:36:24 PM

Max Awesome: What a cesspool of a country.


But enough about the United States which is the Americas let us have the conversation about the country of India.
 
2013-01-13 09:36:50 PM

Oh_Enough_Already: In America, we'd be talking about banning buses.


Only "Assault Buses".

At first, anyway.
 
2013-01-13 09:39:12 PM

Yzziefrog: Considering what happened last month, she should have known better. I mean, she knew that riding buses meant being raped, so obviously she was asking for it. I bet she wanted it and then her husband found out so she made-up some story about being gang-raped.

The slattern should be stoned.


Indeed, Indian women should know better than to get on a city bus after what happened last month. And I bet the harlot had the unmitigated gall to ask the driver for a transfer! Stoning's too good for her
 
2013-01-13 09:39:14 PM

spin359: Too bad she didn't have her protection.

[www.gunholstersunlimited.com image 400x600]


I have been informed that murder is not an appropriate response to rape nor to attempted rape.
 
2013-01-13 09:39:42 PM
if only other passengers on the bus had the right to carry concealed firearms and have a chance to thwart this brutal attack.

/is serious
 
2013-01-13 09:40:22 PM

mraudacia: so in a country over populated by men specifically because they tend to abort women to avoid paying that dowlry thing, its dangerous to be a woman?

who knew.


India has 26 states and dowry practice was prevalent in maybe 3 states. Even in those places, since girls are limited now a days, there are cases of reverse dowry being reported. In delhi where these rape incidents occurred, dowry is not an issue at all. It's just that North Indian's have a high proportion of stupid farks.

/ why yes, I'm from South India
 
2013-01-13 09:42:48 PM

hdhale: jnapier: At least in America there'd be a good chance (sadly not 100%) that, were such a situation to arise, some of the bystanders would open a 40 lb box of whoopass on the attackers.

How many that live in Stubenville Ohio?

Having been to Steubenville, Ohio, I think perhaps the whoopass delivery trucks don't stop there.


Read the wiki article on Steubenville: the place is so miserable that I doubt anything stops there
 
2013-01-13 09:42:53 PM
Well, one of their holy men told everyone that it's okay and that it's partially the female's fault.

Might as well have rung the gang rape dinner bell.

Dumbasses.
 
2013-01-13 09:43:51 PM

hdhale: Somacandra: [arkitipintel.com image 400x266] [i.imgur.com image 200x300]
Mass free distribution of anti-rape condoms. Its the only way to be sure

Yeah, shredding the first guy's penis isn't going to make his buddies want to beat you to death at all.


Gives new meaning to sloppy seconds, though...
 
2013-01-13 09:47:11 PM

aninconvenienterection: if only other passengers on the bus had the right to carry concealed firearms and have a chance to thwart this brutal attack.

/is serious


If you were serious you would have read the article. There were no other passengers.
 
2013-01-13 09:47:29 PM
She was asking for it. Everyone knows that riding a bus is a sure sign of being a whore.
 
2013-01-13 09:47:55 PM
Has anybody pointed out that x out of y people enjoy gang rape? 'Cause would that ever be funny.
 
2013-01-13 09:48:15 PM
Police in India are going to have to up their response time like this from now on, unless they're okay with (gang)rape suspects being trampled to death by angry women.


/instant karma's gonna get you
 
2013-01-13 09:49:02 PM

computerguyUT: Well, one of their holy men told everyone that it's okay and that it's partially the female's fault.

Might as well have rung the gang rape dinner bell.

Dumbasses.


That holy man is about as popular as pastor Terry Jones. No body gives an actual fark
 
2013-01-13 09:52:56 PM

Gaseous Anomaly: Ronin_S: Maybe we can just offer to let any woman who wants to leave the really rapey countries and come to live in North America/Europe/places where you expect to see prison time for this sort of shiat?

It would be interesting to see what those places would be like if almost all the women disappeared.

At least in America there'd be a good chance (sadly not 100%) that, were such a situation to arise, some of the bystanders would open a 40 lb box of whoopass on the attackers.


If they thought nobody else was watching, they'd be more likely to join in. Or just whip out a camera phone and film the whole thing before walking away.
 
2013-01-13 09:53:31 PM
Man, it is sure fun watching everyone get on their hobby horses and rock the shiat out of them...
 
2013-01-13 09:54:42 PM

over_and_done: Gaseous Anomaly: Ronin_S: Maybe we can just offer to let any woman who wants to leave the really rapey countries and come to live in North America/Europe/places where you expect to see prison time for this sort of shiat?

It would be interesting to see what those places would be like if almost all the women disappeared.

At least in America there'd be a good chance (sadly not 100%) that, were such a situation to arise, some of the bystanders would open a 40 lb box of whoopass on the attackers.

If they thought nobody else was watching, they'd be more likely to join in. Or just whip out a camera phone and film the whole thing before walking away.


As both situations have happened here, yeah. Hell, we made a movie about the first scenario.
 
2013-01-13 09:54:44 PM

aninconvenienterection: if only other passengers on the bus had the right to carry concealed firearms and have a chance to thwart this brutal attack.

/is serious


There were no other passengers.
 
2013-01-13 09:54:59 PM
Can't they just eat more curry to make everyone around them want to keep their distance, or something?
 
2013-01-13 09:56:22 PM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: Somacandra: [arkitipintel.com image 400x266] [i.imgur.com image 200x300]
Mass free distribution of anti-rape condoms. Its the only way to be sure

real question? can a women walk around with that thing in them and not be uncomfortable?


That is the men's prototpe.
 
2013-01-13 09:56:40 PM
They said on CNN the other night that there is a rape every 52 seconds or minute (can't remember now) in India. Either way. That's insane !!
 
2013-01-13 09:57:37 PM

aninconvenienterection: if only other passengers on the bus had the right to carry concealed firearms and have a chance to thwart this brutal attack.

/is serious

"The bus sped past her stop, police said. By that time, the woman was the only passenger.

The bus driver and his helper then took the married 29-year-old woman to an undisclosed address where five others joined the two men and raped her throughout the night, police said."



I sense a flaw in your reasoning...

Can we stop blaming other people for not being there, the victim for not being armed, or the god-damn bus company for not making rape-proof vehicles, and concentrate on the real culprits? As long as a society deems women to be second-class citizens that can be held down, sold, or brutalized without consequences, shiat like that is going to happen. Indian society needs to evolve - hopefully it won't take them too long.
 
2013-01-13 09:57:55 PM

aninconvenienterection: if only other passengers on the bus had the right to carry concealed firearms and have a chance to thwart this brutal attack.

/is serious


I read an article recently where requests for permission to buy a handgun are up significantly in India. Unfortunately they are rarely approved, and the cops more or less blamed the increase in applications on hysteria and said it would soon pass. In other words, the possibility (make that certainty since another has happened) that more women would get ganged raped was an acceptable price to pay to keep a few extra guns out of civilian hands.

/interesting what passes for logic there...or some American cities actually
 
2013-01-13 09:59:43 PM
Did they yell "Surprise!" first?
 
2013-01-13 10:00:57 PM

quickdraw: RISE UP

[cdn.thedailybeast.com image 387x302]

Something tells me this group is about to get a whole lot bigger.


I seriously,  seriously farking love that group  so damn much. That is like the answer to every single time I've asked "why is no one fighting back?". And it is  beautiful.
 
2013-01-13 10:02:23 PM
I'm curious as to what political agenda they hope achieve by arranging all these gang rapes?
 
2013-01-13 10:04:09 PM

Ronin_S: Maybe we can just offer to let any woman who wants to leave the really rapey countries and come to live in North America/Europe/places where you expect to see prison time for this sort of shiat?

It would be interesting to see what those places would be like if almost all the women disappeared.


Rape is, in fact, a crime in India.
 
2013-01-13 10:07:22 PM

hdhale: aninconvenienterection: if only other passengers on the bus had the right to carry concealed firearms and have a chance to thwart this brutal attack.

/is serious

I read an article recently where requests for permission to buy a handgun are up significantly in India. Unfortunately they are rarely approved, and the cops more or less blamed the increase in applications on hysteria and said it would soon pass. In other words, the possibility (make that certainty since another has happened) that more women would get ganged raped was an acceptable price to pay to keep a few extra guns out of civilian hands.

/interesting what passes for logic there...or some American cities actually


the good news is, this too shall pass....

/ack
 
2013-01-13 10:07:22 PM

cmb53208: hdhale: jnapier: At least in America there'd be a good chance (sadly not 100%) that, were such a situation to arise, some of the bystanders would open a 40 lb box of whoopass on the attackers.

How many that live in Stubenville Ohio?

Having been to Steubenville, Ohio, I think perhaps the whoopass delivery trucks don't stop there.

Read the wiki article on Steubenville: the place is so miserable that I doubt anything stops there


This statement always give me a moment of "huh?" Before I realize we're thinking of very different parts of Steubenville. You're thinking shiat-hole ghetto with a rape problem, I'm thinking of the ultra-conservative Catholic college Franciscan University of Steubenville (or just Steubenville for short). Devout Catholics times 100. As in huge numbers of them are virgins when they marry, or become nuns/priests/monks. Where the weedy guitar player who leads the folk singing group is big man on campus and has the pick of the girls.
 
2013-01-13 10:07:57 PM

thisiszombocom: [cdn.motinetwork.net image 640x540]


I didn't know Dolph Lundgren was down with the rapiness... learn something new every day on Fark
 
2013-01-13 10:08:11 PM

Ronin_S: rapey


It would be more interesting to see what Canada looked like after an influx of 200 million women.
 
2013-01-13 10:08:39 PM

olddinosaur: No Such Agency: olddinosaur:
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

I am sure her she is grateful her country feels so kindly towards her, as to deprive her of a deadly weapon with which she might easily harm someone, like those innocent young men who were just having some carefree youthful fun.

Seriously, dude? "This is Fark" only excuses so much in the way of trolling. But just in case you are so thick as to be sincere, if India was as awash in handguns as America is, odds are the minibus driver would have had one too.

I don't care what they do in India, it is their country to run as they see fit. I am worried it will happen in Amerika, sooner than you might expect.

Think about that when the gang bangers knock down your door in the middle of the night and shoot your children in the back, and say it was okay because they thought there might be some drugs, or maybe someone heard something about some drugs, or maybe they thought someone said someone to somebody about some drugs or something.

Make sure you thank them politely, some of those kids might have grown up to become junkies.

"---stirbt hoeflich und sagt: 'danke sehr.'" --- Erich Kaestner


www.zdroweforum.pl
 
2013-01-13 10:08:44 PM

Yzziefrog: aninconvenienterection: if only other passengers on the bus had the right to carry concealed firearms and have a chance to thwart this brutal attack.

/is serious

"The bus sped past her stop, police said. By that time, the woman was the only passenger.

The bus driver and his helper then took the married 29-year-old woman to an undisclosed address where five others joined the two men and raped her throughout the night, police said."


I sense a flaw in your reasoning...

Can we stop blaming other people for not being there, the victim for not being armed, or the god-damn bus company for not making rape-proof vehicles, and concentrate on the real culprits? As long as a society deems women to be second-class citizens that can be held down, sold, or brutalized without consequences, shiat like that is going to happen. Indian society needs to evolve - hopefully it won't take them too long.


Whoa on the bolded part. Where exactly did you get that information? I am not pretending human trafficking doesn't occur, but it's not exactly institutionalized as you claim.
 
2013-01-13 10:09:32 PM

Somacandra: Mija: Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women

[i.imgur.com image 496x287]

Its the progressives that actually do things the are proven to reduce abortion rates. Wake me up when "pro-lifers" have done anything comparable.


Social conservatives maintain that abstinence from sex before marriage is:

100% effective against unwanted pregnancy
100% effective against STDs
has been shown to be extremely effective in drastically cutting the abortion rate

No other method is more effective.

Of course it takes a certain amount of discipline that many people feel is beyond their ability to maintain. Those people are free to throw dice and hope for the best.

/not that I am a social conservative, but if you are doing it right, it's hard to argue
 
2013-01-13 10:12:58 PM
American 2nd amendment discussion aside, why are people calling for more guns for women to prevent rape? Mace is legal and readily availible, won't ricochet and kill bystanders, and is pretty effective at stopping attackers.

Plus, if you are crazy and whip out some mace during a psychotic episode and spray an innocent man (I hear there may be one left somewhere), you won't have to deal with any hefty charges like manslaughter or whatever.
 
2013-01-13 10:15:50 PM
Either these guys are seriously behind in their country's news or they just did this...

images.wikia.com
 
2013-01-13 10:19:20 PM

hdhale: Somacandra: Mija: Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women

[i.imgur.com image 496x287]

Its the progressives that actually do things the are proven to reduce abortion rates. Wake me up when "pro-lifers" have done anything comparable.

Social conservatives maintain that abstinence from sex before marriage is:

100% effective against unwanted pregnancy
100% effective against STDs
has been shown to be extremely effective in drastically cutting the abortion rate

No other method is more effective.

Of course it takes a certain amount of discipline that many people feel is beyond their ability to maintain. Those people are free to throw dice and hope for the best.

/not that I am a social conservative, but if you are doing it right, it's hard to argue


Just curious how often that leads to people getting married very young because they're desperate to fark, and then getting divorced a couple years later when they realized that the high school sweetheart wasn't long-term relationship material. Because that really supports the sanctity of marriage, eh?
 
2013-01-13 10:24:30 PM

MagicPlasticTreeFrog: American 2nd amendment discussion aside, why are people calling for more guns for women to prevent rape? Mace is legal and readily availible, won't ricochet and kill bystanders, and is pretty effective at stopping attackers.

Plus, if you are crazy and whip out some mace during a psychotic episode and spray an innocent man (I hear there may be one left somewhere), you won't have to deal with any hefty charges like manslaughter or whatever.


Just for fun. Imagine you and 6 of your friends with one woman and you want to rape her. How is mace gonna stop you unless you're mentally challenged. Even with a gun, she's not going to get all of you. Just a thought...

At least some would be dead..
 
2013-01-13 10:24:42 PM
Lots of assholes in this thread....almost as though they're posting from a bus in India.

And to the gun nuts posting in here--interesting how the end of the political spectrum you speak from is also known for such terms of endearment as "legitimate rape."

Seriously, DIAF.
 
2013-01-13 10:25:37 PM

Dimensio: spin359: Too bad she didn't have her protection.

[www.gunholstersunlimited.com image 400x600]

I have been informed that murder is not an appropriate response to rape nor to attempted rape.


Well it is different there but in any state "Danger of grave bodily harm" is legal to draw a weapon and if necessary use it. If she had started with some mace and that didn't work one shot would have probably helped her cause. The lady from two weeks ago is dead, and this woman probably could believe that she would go down the same path.
 
2013-01-13 10:33:14 PM

PsiChick: quickdraw: RISE UP

[cdn.thedailybeast.com image 387x302]

Something tells me this group is about to get a whole lot bigger.

I seriously,  seriously farking love that group  so damn much. That is like the answer to every single time I've asked "why is no one fighting back?". And it is  beautiful.


We can donate here
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-13 10:36:01 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-13 10:38:25 PM

aninconvenienterection: hdhale: aninconvenienterection: if only other passengers on the bus had the right to carry concealed firearms and have a chance to thwart this brutal attack.

/is serious

I read an article recently where requests for permission to buy a handgun are up significantly in India. Unfortunately they are rarely approved, and the cops more or less blamed the increase in applications on hysteria and said it would soon pass. In other words, the possibility (make that certainty since another has happened) that more women would get ganged raped was an acceptable price to pay to keep a few extra guns out of civilian hands.

/interesting what passes for logic there...or some American cities actually

the good news is, this too shall pass....

/ack


Until the next time...and given the attitudes being demonstrated...this wasn't first time and won't be the last either.

/ack indeed
 
2013-01-13 10:41:00 PM
Yzziefrog: Stop telling women how not to get raped, and start teaching boys not to rape.
 
2013-01-13 10:42:25 PM

KawaiiNot: Somacandra:  
Mass free distribution of anti-rape condoms. Its the only way to be sure

That's a real thing?


Yes.
 
2013-01-13 10:43:10 PM

ktybear: Yzziefrog: Stop telling women how not to get raped, and start teaching boys not to rape.


Aaaaaaaand this.
 
2013-01-13 10:44:43 PM
Perhaps if these fellows washed their ass every once in a while, women would have sex with them willingly.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/12/30/world/asia/india-refer / india-refer-articleLarge-v2.jpg
 
2013-01-13 10:45:00 PM
The trials and tribulations of living in Hadji Ladji land. I cases like this, the more attention the outside world gives these incidents the more prevalent they become.
 
2013-01-13 10:45:48 PM
Perhaps if these fellows washed their ass every once in a while, women would have sex with them willingly.
graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2013-01-13 10:46:25 PM
Look....poor people need hobbies too you know.
 
2013-01-13 10:51:26 PM
...or maybe they are too shy.
www.infinitydish.com
 
2013-01-13 10:56:42 PM

PunGent: hdhale: Somacandra: [arkitipintel.com image 400x266] [i.imgur.com image 200x300]
Mass free distribution of anti-rape condoms. Its the only way to be sure

Yeah, shredding the first guy's penis isn't going to make his buddies want to beat you to death at all.

Gives new meaning to sloppy seconds, though...


It also doesn't necessarily stop them from farking you in the ass either. Or just making their own holes to stick things into. Seriously, these ass-wipes are like the dicks in the crossed comics.
 
2013-01-13 10:57:05 PM

Mija: miss diminutive: So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.

About half of aborted children are female. Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women.


40% of sick days are taken on Monday or Friday!!!
 
2013-01-13 10:58:29 PM
graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2013-01-13 10:59:42 PM

thisiszombocom: [p.bfram.es image 420x532]


Martial arts.
1/5 walk away.

Teach it.
Preach it.

Screw football, and soccer.
Teach life/survival skills.

Then I'll gladly pay my "school" taxes.
/no kids.
 
2013-01-13 11:03:12 PM

quickdraw: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 600x330]


Needs more torches and pitchforks.
 
2013-01-13 11:04:36 PM
Where's Phoolan Devi when you need her?
www.countercurrents.org

Or any of the Hindu goddesses: Durga? Kali?
 
2013-01-13 11:05:21 PM

ktybear: Yzziefrog: Stop telling women how not to get raped, and start teaching boys not to rape.


goodmenproject.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com
aboutdabusiness.files.wordpress.com
media-cache0.pinterest.com
 
2013-01-13 11:06:29 PM

Vangor: Bucky Katt: At least the police took the report this time. Small consolation, though. Damn.

This and the immediate willingness of the woman to come forward were essential to the quick apprehension and bringing proper consequences to this type of horrific crime in the future.


This is probably the most sensible comment about a) why this kind of thing happens in India and b) what needs to change before it stops happening.

Rape, more than anything, is a crime that can only happen if the victim cannot or will not testify against her attacker. If she is unable to do so because her society or culture tends to disregard females, then rape can pretty much continue unchecked. India, until very very recently, has been such a country and culture. Only in the last few years have women been able to reliably bring sexual assault charges against men and reliably have police take reports and then take action against the rapists.

Giving women guns, in such a culture, would only result in women being charged with murder and probably convicted as well. Standing up for your rights is futile if you have no rights to stand up for.
 
2013-01-13 11:07:58 PM
Somacandra: Its the progressives that actually do things the are proven to reduce abortion rates. Wake me up when "pro-lifers" have done anything comparable.

that info does no good, as contraception is akin to abortion in their eyes
 
2013-01-13 11:08:56 PM
quickdraw: RISE UP

[cdn.thedailybeast.com image 387x302]

Something tells me this group is about to get a whole lot bigger.

PsiChick: I seriously,  seriously farking love that group  so damn much. That is like the answer to every single time I've asked "why is no one fighting back?". And it is  beautiful.


Hah! I thought you all were talking about the band, "Rise Against." :-)

But that group of Indian female vigilantes to which you're actually referring is seriously hardcore.

From the article: "Operating in the badlands of Uttar Pradesh, India's most populous and poverty-stricken state, Pal's group gained notoriety in early days for beating up men who abused their wives. If they heard a husband was being violent, they would show up at his door with sticks called laathis - the same wielded by local cops when patrolling their beat - and demand he change his ways."
 
2013-01-13 11:19:34 PM
Mija
About half of aborted children are female. Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women.

About half of all pregnacies are female. What's your point?

And how would you be able to verify the sex in most abortions anyway? Its my understanding that they are usually done early enough in the pregnancy that the genitals wouldn't even be formed yet.
 
2013-01-13 11:19:41 PM

msirois: They said on CNN the other night that there is a rape every 52 seconds or minute (can't remember now) in India. Either way. That's insane !!


No no no. You're supposed to put that as "They said on CNN the other night that a woman in India is raped every 52 seconds."

That way the rest of us could reply with comments about how awful her life is and how she ever manages to eat, sleep and go to the toilet in between rapes.
 
2013-01-13 11:19:57 PM

doyner: Lots of assholes in this thread....almost as though they're posting from a bus in India.

Meme.
 
2013-01-13 11:21:55 PM
Civilization is in decline globally, prepare accordingly.
 
2013-01-13 11:27:02 PM
Just thought I'd post this again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akku_Yadav


Bharat Kalicharan, alias Akku Yadav, was a 32-year-old alleged rapist and murderer in India who, on August 13, 2004, was lynched by a mob of around 200 women from Yadav was stabbed over seventy times, and chili powder and stones were thrown in his face. One of his alleged victims also hacked off his penis. This lynching occurred in Nagpur district court, on the marble floor of the courtroom. The women who killed him claimed that Yadav had been raping and abusing local women with impunity for over a decade, and that the local police had refused to help his victims or pursue charges as Yadav was allegedly bribing them.

/not saying I think we should go around lynching people
//just saying that when you leave people no other recourse, this kinda shiat tends to happen
 
2013-01-13 11:27:04 PM
quickdraw
TVOD! I was just thinking about you. Can you write a filter for the poli threads that changes the word "gun" to "penis?" It would make the brazillions of gun threads much more entertaining.


That sounds doable.
BRB.

/well, give me half an hour or so
 
2013-01-13 11:28:03 PM

knowless: Civilization is in decline globally, prepare accordingly.


You misspelled: "Indian men are animals".
 
2013-01-13 11:29:52 PM

The Voice of Doom: quickdraw
TVOD! I was just thinking about you. Can you write a filter for the poli threads that changes the word "gun" to "penis?" It would make the brazillions of gun threads much more entertaining.

That sounds doable.
BRB.

/well, give me half an hour or so


*swoon*
 
2013-01-13 11:31:37 PM

Mambo Bananapatch: Has anybody pointed out that x out of y people enjoy gang rape? 'Cause would that ever be funny.


The correct formula would be:

X / X+1

if you are referring to the earlier conflicting reports of rape statistics.
 
2013-01-13 11:32:40 PM
The thing that really bothers me about this, beyond the actual assault, is that so many men were willing to rape her. Seriously. Let's say one guy..just one, gets a girl in a position where he has control of her, and he calls up 10 guys, and all ten say "sure, we aren't doing anything..we'll be right over". I'm not sure what kind of people are over there, or what the general social feelings to women are, but I can't imagine that ANY of my friends would participate in a rape, and they would more than likely call the police and give them the address. One guy, sure, there are many animalistic sexual predators out there, but seriously, is it THAT easy to find a whole group of guys willing to assault a woman? WTF kind of country are you people running over there?
 
2013-01-13 11:34:03 PM

Gyrfalcon: Vangor: Bucky Katt: At least the police took the report this time. Small consolation, though. Damn.

This and the immediate willingness of the woman to come forward were essential to the quick apprehension and bringing proper consequences to this type of horrific crime in the future.

This is probably the most sensible comment about a) why this kind of thing happens in India and b) what needs to change before it stops happening.

Rape, more than anything, is a crime that can only happen if the victim cannot or will not testify against her attacker. If she is unable to do so because her society or culture tends to disregard females, then rape can pretty much continue unchecked. India, until very very recently, has been such a country and culture. Only in the last few years have women been able to reliably bring sexual assault charges against men and reliably have police take reports and then take action against the rapists.

Giving women guns, in such a culture, would only result in women being charged with murder and probably convicted as well. Standing up for your rights is futile if you have no rights to stand up for.


The USA  (with all our guns and rights) is no better than India when it comes to prosecuting rapists.

rainn.org
 
2013-01-13 11:36:46 PM

JungleBoogie: But that group of Indian female vigilantes to which you're actually referring is seriously hardcore.


Arent they awesome? There are a couple movies about them. I want a pink sari and a big stick sooooo bad.
 
2013-01-13 11:37:31 PM

itsfullofstars: knowless: Civilization is in decline globally, prepare accordingly.

You misspelled: "Indian men are animals".


Congratulations. You win the dumbass award for today. How many Indian men have you personally vetted to arrive at this truthiness?
 
2013-01-13 11:44:04 PM

quickdraw: The USA (with all our guns and rights) is no better than India when it comes to prosecuting rapists.


If cops straight-up ignored all rape calls and took bribes and booze from rapists, you'd start being remotely correct.
 
2013-01-13 11:49:00 PM

quickdraw: JungleBoogie: But that group of Indian female vigilantes to which you're actually referring is seriously hardcore.

Arent they awesome? There are a couple movies about them. I want a pink sari and a big stick sooooo bad.


Same.
 
2013-01-13 11:49:58 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: The thing that really bothers me about this, beyond the actual assault, is that so many men were willing to rape her. Seriously. Let's say one guy..just one, gets a girl in a position where he has control of her, and he calls up 10 guys, and all ten say "sure, we aren't doing anything..we'll be right over". I'm not sure what kind of people are over there, or what the general social feelings to women are, but I can't imagine that ANY of my friends would participate in a rape, and they would more than likely call the police and give them the address. One guy, sure, there are many animalistic sexual predators out there, but seriously, is it THAT easy to find a whole group of guys willing to assault a woman? WTF kind of country are you people running over there?


It's not that hard to find accomplices. In a few places, male/female ratio is like 1000/940. Sex before marriage is frowned on generally and so is being gay. Most of Indians have to be married to have sex. And so, there is a percentage of population who are poor who never marry and they resort to this. Making tough laws isn't exactly an answer. The laws are strict enough, there are simply not many enforcers
 
2013-01-13 11:53:58 PM

GungFu: ktybear: Yzziefrog: Stop telling women how not to get raped, and start teaching boys not to rape.

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id totally not rape that middle one
 
2013-01-13 11:54:05 PM

Cid_Highwind: quickdraw: The USA (with all our guns and rights) is no better than India when it comes to prosecuting rapists.

If cops straight-up ignored all rape calls and took bribes and booze from rapists, you'd start being remotely correct.


They dont ignore all rape calls - just some of them, and they do take bribes. I am in no way suggesting that we in the US are as bad off as women in India. But dont you think that we ought to be able to do better than a 3% conviction rate?
 
2013-01-13 11:54:49 PM
Victims in Delhi rape case are to blame, defendants' lawyer says

The lawyer representing three of the men charged with the gang rape and murder of a medical student aboard a moving bus in New Delhi has blamed the victims for the assault, saying he has never heard of a "respected lady" being raped in India.
 
2013-01-13 11:56:14 PM
NBC News is reporting that Punjab police publicly named the victim. Yet, there are the suspects, with bags on their heads...

Source: http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/13/16490382-report-six-susp ects-held-over-another-india-bus-gang-rape?lite
 
2013-01-14 12:05:28 AM

gblive: Victims in Delhi rape case are to blame, defendants' lawyer says

The lawyer representing three of the men charged with the gang rape and murder of a medical student aboard a moving bus in New Delhi has blamed the victims for the assault, saying he has never heard of a "respected lady" being raped in India.


ugh - that made me nauseous.
 
2013-01-14 12:08:47 AM
And you thought greyhound was bad...

I joke, but seriously: misogynistic culture -> gang rapes and shiat
For all these people who want to torture and kill these rapists, there is a whole culture that is supporting rape's foreplay, like 'eve-teasing', wife beating, and slut shaming. It is all capped off with victim blaming. Reject the idea that your women are objects and you will help to keep them from being treated as such.
 
2013-01-14 12:11:01 AM
I found Waldo, but he's hanging with the wrong crowd....
 
2013-01-14 12:14:04 AM

fusillade762: Forget cricket, gang rape is India's new national sport.



i.imgur.com

It's just being reported on here in the West now... sometimes.
Gotta fill the post-election with something, and it's certainly not going to be guns.
 
2013-01-14 12:15:34 AM

God-is-a-Taco:

It's just being reported on here in the West now... sometimes.
Gotta fill the post-election with something, and it's certainly not going to be guns.


Err. Post election "news" vacuum, that is.
 
2013-01-14 12:18:42 AM

thisiszombocom: "The next day, the suspects dropped her off at her village"

well that was very thoughtful. sentence abjured!

/ proud member of the Fark Mysogynist Brigade
// you know you live it sugartits


They kindly did the needful
 
2013-01-14 12:19:13 AM

whatshisname: olddinosaur: Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

F me. There's one in every thread...


One?
 
2013-01-14 12:21:40 AM

Happy Hours: miss diminutive: So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.

judging all Indians based on a (relatively) few of them is sort of like saying all of the US is made up of gangmembers.

And I'll bust a cap in your ass if you dare to disagree with me.


Nakusa
 
2013-01-14 12:24:18 AM

knowless: Civilization is in decline globally, prepare accordingly.



I'll drink to that!
 
2013-01-14 12:24:39 AM

quickdraw: The Voice of Doom: olddinosaur
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

A guns wouldn't have changed anything.
But had the guys been circumcised as infants, their desensitized dicks rubbing against their balloon pants wouldn't have made them horny enough to think about raping her.
But in the end, it's all her fault:
If she hadn't tipped the bus driver less than the standard 25%, he wouldn't have abducted her; instead he would have pointed out to her that still wearing the tight spandex from cycling to the bus stop was just asking to be raped, given that the bus was full of illegal immigrants on their way home from stealing a local guy's job. And we all know how those people are.

TVOD! I was just thinking about you. Can you write a filter for the poli threads that changes the word "gun" to "penis?" It would make the brazillions of gun threads much more entertaining.


"penis nut"

"penis grabbers"

"I'm a penis enthusiast."

"I own several penises."

Yeah, that would be awesome.
 
2013-01-14 12:26:26 AM

cmb53208: Yzziefrog: Considering what happened last month, she should have known better. I mean, she knew that riding buses meant being raped, so obviously she was asking for it. I bet she wanted it and then her husband found out so she made-up some story about being gang-raped.

The slattern should be stoned.

Indeed, Indian women should know better than to get on a city bus after what happened last month. And I bet the harlot had the unmitigated gall to ask the driver for a transfer! Stoning's too good for her


So you are the guru we had a thread about last week!
 
2013-01-14 12:30:01 AM

quickdraw: PsiChick: quickdraw: RISE UP

[cdn.thedailybeast.com image 387x302]

Something tells me this group is about to get a whole lot bigger.

I seriously,  seriously farking love that group  so damn much. That is like the answer to every single time I've asked "why is no one fighting back?". And it is  beautiful.

We can donate here


Every one of them is a tawny Beatrix Kiddo. Best of luck to them.
 
2013-01-14 12:33:10 AM
cbathrob
quickdraw: The Voice of Doom: olddinosaur

Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

A guns wouldn't have changed anything.
But had the guys been circumcised as infants, their desensitized dicks rubbing against their balloon pants wouldn't have made them horny enough to think about raping her.
But in the end, it's all her fault:
If she hadn't tipped the bus driver less than the standard 25%, he wouldn't have abducted her; instead he would have pointed out to her that still wearing the tight spandex from cycling to the bus stop was just asking to be raped, given that the bus was full of illegal immigrants on their way home from stealing a local guy's job. And we all know how those people are.

TVOD! I was just thinking about you. Can you write a filter for the poli threads that changes the word "gun" to "penis?" It would make the brazillions of gun threads much more entertaining.

"penis nut"

"penis grabbers"

"I'm a penis enthusiast."

"I own several penises."

Yeah, that would be awesome.


Rough prototype

Replaces: gun(s)->penis(es), weapon(s)->genital(s)

Known bugs:
* quoted user names appear twice
* navigation links should stay within the "penisified" versions

/well, and it would have been better as a Javascript bookmarklet anyway, but my brain is still working today so I can't do Javascript right now
 
2013-01-14 12:33:22 AM

itsfullofstars: knowless: Civilization is in decline globally, prepare accordingly.

You misspelled: "Indian men are animals".


Junglis
 
2013-01-14 12:34:59 AM

ElFugawz: And you thought greyhound was bad...

I joke, but seriously: misogynistic culture -> gang rapes and shiat
For all these people who want to torture and kill these rapists, there is a whole culture that is supporting rape's foreplay, like 'eve-teasing', wife beating, and slut shaming. It is all capped off with victim blaming. Reject the idea that your women are objects and you will help to keep them from being treated as such.


i543.photobucket.com


/srsly though
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-14 12:40:03 AM

The Voice of Doom: cbathrob
quickdraw: The Voice of Doom: olddinosaur
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

A guns wouldn't have changed anything.
But had the guys been circumcised as infants, their desensitized dicks rubbing against their balloon pants wouldn't have made them horny enough to think about raping her.
But in the end, it's all her fault:
If she hadn't tipped the bus driver less than the standard 25%, he wouldn't have abducted her; instead he would have pointed out to her that still wearing the tight spandex from cycling to the bus stop was just asking to be raped, given that the bus was full of illegal immigrants on their way home from stealing a local guy's job. And we all know how those people are.

TVOD! I was just thinking about you. Can you write a filter for the poli threads that changes the word "gun" to "penis?" It would make the brazillions of gun threads much more entertaining.

"penis nut"

"penis grabbers"

"I'm a penis enthusiast."

"I own several penises."

Yeah, that would be awesome.

Rough prototype

Replaces: gun(s)->penis(es), weapon(s)->genital(s)

Known bugs:
* quoted user names appear twice
* navigation links should stay within the "penisified" versions

/well, and it would have been better as a Javascript bookmarklet anyway, but my brain is still working today so I can't do Javascript right now


I LOVE YOU!
 
2013-01-14 12:43:09 AM

quickdraw: Cid_Highwind: quickdraw: The USA (with all our guns and rights) is no better than India when it comes to prosecuting rapists.

If cops straight-up ignored all rape calls and took bribes and booze from rapists, you'd start being remotely correct.

They dont ignore all rape calls - just some of them, and they do take bribes. I am in no way suggesting that we in the US are as bad off as women in India. But dont you think that we ought to be able to do better than a 3% conviction rate?


Uh...we do.

According to FBI statistics, the clearance by arrest for forcible rape is standing at about 40%. That's about three times higher than the 12% quoted on your little chart. I admit, it could be better, but still. Try to be outraged about the right numbers, okay?
 
2013-01-14 12:45:03 AM
"Penis control means using both hands."

"You'll pry my penis from my cold, dead fingers."
 
2013-01-14 12:50:37 AM

cbathrob: quickdraw: The Voice of Doom: olddinosaur
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

A guns wouldn't have changed anything.
But had the guys been circumcised as infants, their desensitized dicks rubbing against their balloon pants wouldn't have made them horny enough to think about raping her.
But in the end, it's all her fault:
If she hadn't tipped the bus driver less than the standard 25%, he wouldn't have abducted her; instead he would have pointed out to her that still wearing the tight spandex from cycling to the bus stop was just asking to be raped, given that the bus was full of illegal immigrants on their way home from stealing a local guy's job. And we all know how those people are.

TVOD! I was just thinking about you. Can you write a filter for the poli threads that changes the word "gun" to "penis?" It would make the brazillions of gun threads much more entertaining.

"penis nut"

"penis grabbers"

"I'm a penis enthusiast."

"I own several penises."

Yeah, that would be awesome.


What's going to happen, though, when the inevitable anti-gun-nut comes through and accuses the gun-freaks of having inordinately small penises? It's going to be a penis frenzy all over the place!

OK, nevermind, it will be awesome.
 
2013-01-14 12:55:21 AM

Gyrfalcon: cbathrob: quickdraw: The Voice of Doom: olddinosaur
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

A guns wouldn't have changed anything.
But had the guys been circumcised as infants, their desensitized dicks rubbing against their balloon pants wouldn't have made them horny enough to think about raping her.
But in the end, it's all her fault:
If she hadn't tipped the bus driver less than the standard 25%, he wouldn't have abducted her; instead he would have pointed out to her that still wearing the tight spandex from cycling to the bus stop was just asking to be raped, given that the bus was full of illegal immigrants on their way home from stealing a local guy's job. And we all know how those people are.

TVOD! I was just thinking about you. Can you write a filter for the poli threads that changes the word "gun" to "penis?" It would make the brazillions of gun threads much more entertaining.

"penis nut"

"penis grabbers"

"I'm a penis enthusiast."

"I own several penises."

Yeah, that would be awesome.

What's going to happen, though, when the inevitable anti-gun-nut comes through and accuses the gun-freaks of having inordinately small penises? It's going to be a penis frenzy all over the place!

OK, nevermind, it will be awesome.


I'd be encouraged for once to read those comments just for the laughs!
 
2013-01-14 12:55:45 AM

cbathrob: "Penis control means using both hands."

"You'll pry my penis from my cold, dead fingers."


His penis went off accidentally while he was cleaning it?*

British penises are tightly controlled, leading to fewer accidents?

/*mustve went off half-cocked
 
2013-01-14 01:04:20 AM

cbathrob: "Penis control means using both hands."

"You'll pry my penis from my cold, dead fingers."


"When penises are outlawed, only outlaws will have penises"

images.sodahead.com "I don't dial 9-1-1"

"God, Penises, and Guts Make America Great"

"There are hundreds of millions of penis owners in this country, and not one of them will have an accident today. The only misuse of penises comes in environments where there are drugs, alcohol, bad parents, and undisciplined children. Period."
- Ted Nugent

"I have a love interest in every one of my films - a penis."
- Arnold Schwarzenegger

"I have a very strict penis control policy: if there's a penis around, I want to be in control of it."
- Clint Eastwood


/this is fun...
 
2013-01-14 01:21:49 AM
Time for a little PSA for everyone... without further ado...

Ten rape prevention tips:

1. Don't put drugs in women's drinks.

2. When you see a woman walking by herself, leave her alone.

3. If you pull over to help a woman whose car has broken down, remember not to rape her.

4. If you are in an elevator and a woman gets in, don't rape her.

5. When you encounter a woman who is asleep, the safest course of action is to not rape her.

6. Never creep into a woman's home through an unlocked door or window, or spring out at her from between parked cars, or rape her.

7. Remember, people go to the laundry room to do their laundry. Do not attempt to molest someone who is alone in a laundry room.

8. Use the Buddy System! If it is inconvenient for you to stop yourself from raping women, ask a trusted friend to accompany you at all times.

9. Carry a rape whistle. If you find that you are about to rape someone, blow the whistle until someone comes to stop you.

10. Don't rape people.
 
2013-01-14 01:24:32 AM

olddinosaur: No Such Agency: olddinosaur:
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

I am sure her she is grateful her country feels so kindly towards her, as to deprive her of a deadly weapon with which she might easily harm someone, like those innocent young men who were just having some carefree youthful fun.

Seriously, dude? "This is Fark" only excuses so much in the way of trolling. But just in case you are so thick as to be sincere, if India was as awash in handguns as America is, odds are the minibus driver would have had one too.

I don't care what they do in India, it is their country to run as they see fit. I am worried it will happen in Amerika, sooner than you might expect.

Think about that when the gang bangers knock down your door in the middle of the night and shoot your children in the back, and say it was okay because they thought there might be some drugs, or maybe someone heard something about some drugs, or maybe they thought someone said someone to somebody about some drugs or something.

Make sure you thank them politely, some of those kids might have grown up to become junkies.

"---stirbt hoeflich und sagt: 'danke sehr.'" --- Erich Kaestner


You used to be normal. :(
 
2013-01-14 01:27:19 AM
India gang rape trifecta in play...
 
2013-01-14 01:51:00 AM

ultraholland: Somacandra: Its the progressives that actually do things the are proven to reduce abortion rates. Wake me up when "pro-lifers" have done anything comparable.

that info does no good, as contraception is akin to abortion in their eyes


Artificial contraception is just an pre-abortion in their eyes.
Most of them are convinced the only birth control needed is abstinence. Then you have the wackier QuiverFull types who pretty much pimp out their offspring to a suitably wacky mate so they can start squirtin' out sprogs ASAP.
 
2013-01-14 01:51:46 AM
Tell me, have we reached the "society is slowly collapsing!" stage yet?

I need to know if I need to stock up on canned food and shotguns
 
2013-01-14 01:52:59 AM

quickdraw: RISE UP



Something tells me this group is about to get a whole lot bigger.


Great story. Thanks for sharing it.
 
2013-01-14 02:07:30 AM

Bathysphere: You used to be normal. :(


Once you see where the USA is headed, there isn't any way to go back to blissful ignorance, aka "normal," again.

/on the plus side, you finally know the reason why the Republicans and Israelis seem to have psychic mind control superpowers that make people respect them no matter what stupid things they say
//still doesn't make up for all the stupid leftist crap I supported before I grew up
 
2013-01-14 02:13:34 AM

Brainsick: cbathrob: "Penis control means using both hands."

"You'll pry my penis from my cold, dead fingers."

"When penises are outlawed, only outlaws will have penises"

[images.sodahead.com image 125x125] "I don't dial 9-1-1"

"God, Penises, and Guts Make America Great"

"There are hundreds of millions of penis owners in this country, and not one of them will have an accident today. The only misuse of penises comes in environments where there are drugs, alcohol, bad parents, and undisciplined children. Period."
- Ted Nugent

"I have a love interest in every one of my films - a penis."
- Arnold Schwarzenegger

"I have a very strict penis control policy: if there's a penis around, I want to be in control of it."
- Clint Eastwood


/this is fun...


You guys sure like penis.
 
2013-01-14 02:14:19 AM
This is the reason countries like China and India will never overtake the USA.

Just imagine from the time you are able to understand you know that there is zero possibility of having sex. None. Ever. The society you live in dictates you must be married to have sex. You must be at a certain economic level to marry. The level of society you are born into is the one you stay in and it will never be high enough.

I'm not saying I condone what happened but I can understand it. When those hormones start raging and there's no outlet bad shiat can happen.

I say we ship them a few million fleshlights as a good will gesture.
 
2013-01-14 02:21:33 AM

aninconvenienterection: if only other passengers on the bus had the right to carry concealed firearms and have a chance to thwart this brutal attack.


The other passengers on the bus were the rapists.
 
2013-01-14 02:23:56 AM

Oatworm: Time for a little PSA for everyone... without further ado...

Ten rape prevention tips:

1. Don't put drugs in women's drinks.

2. When you see a woman walking by herself, leave her alone.

3. If you pull over to help a woman whose car has broken down, remember not to rape her.

4. If you are in an elevator and a woman gets in, don't rape her.

5. When you encounter a woman who is asleep, the safest course of action is to not rape her.

6. Never creep into a woman's home through an unlocked door or window, or spring out at her from between parked cars, or rape her.

7. Remember, people go to the laundry room to do their laundry. Do not attempt to molest someone who is alone in a laundry room.

8. Use the Buddy System! If it is inconvenient for you to stop yourself from raping women, ask a trusted friend to accompany you at all times.

9. Carry a rape whistle. If you find that you are about to rape someone, blow the whistle until someone comes to stop you.

10. Don't rape people.


this sounds like excellent advice. i shall try to remember these tips
 
2013-01-14 02:24:23 AM

hdhale: Social conservatives maintain that abstinence from sex before marriage is:

100% effective against unwanted pregnancy


Because all pregnancies within marriage are wanted, is that the theory?
 
2013-01-14 02:25:36 AM
This Indian gangrapin' must be the new way to get pussy on prom night.

/gonna git me some right now, you mommy's basement dwellin' farkers.
 
2013-01-14 02:30:21 AM
My headline was rather similar to subby's and no doubt dozens of others, so I didn't expect a greenlight anyway.
But how come my CNN link, which was the same as this one, checked out ok, but another one could still get (had already been?) submitted? How does the Link submission thingee work?
 
2013-01-14 02:30:30 AM

mraudacia: so in a country over populated by men specifically because they tend to abort women to avoid paying that dowlry thing, its dangerous to be a woman?

who knew.


http://www.census2011.co.in/sexratio.php


eyup

they are farked



China is much worse off
[China] is now is close to 120 boys for each 100 girls at the present time, according to a Chinese think-tank report.
 
2013-01-14 02:40:47 AM

quickdraw: RISE UP

[cdn.thedailybeast.com image 387x302]

Something tells me this group is about to get a whole lot bigger.


jesus wept
we know that things are broken elsewhere. but we have so little idea of how bad.
these women are amazing.
 
2013-01-14 02:41:05 AM

Oh_Enough_Already: In America, we'd be talking about banning buses.


aninconvenienterection: if only other passengers on the bus had the right to carry concealed firearms and have a chance to thwart this brutal attack.

/is serious


You're an idiot and have been marked as one.
 
2013-01-14 02:43:54 AM

quickdraw: RISE UP

[cdn.thedailybeast.com image 387x302]

Something tells me this group is about to get a whole lot bigger.


http://www.gulabigang.in/index.html

I am skeptical about donating money to such a distant place. The ability to avoid getting completely and totally scammed .....
 
2013-01-14 02:47:04 AM
The Voice of Doom
Rough prototype

Replaces: gun(s)->penis(es), weapon(s)->genital(s)

Known bugs:
* quoted user names appear twice
* navigation links should stay within the "penisified" versions


FTFeverybody
 
2013-01-14 02:56:51 AM

Alebak: Tell me, have we reached the "society is slowly collapsing!" stage yet? I need to know if I need to stock up on canned food and shotguns


lawl nope, other cultures are just getting to where the US was 100 or so years ago.

US - http://dpsinfo.com/women/history/timeline.html

meh, in the end, the vote only gets you so far. How long and hard have american's been working to get rape treated as a proper crime? and we are even close yet?
It is not unreasonable that India is 50-100 years behind still.
 
2013-01-14 02:58:49 AM
Rape is not normal

But on an Indian bus it is

INDIAN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. NOT EVEN ONCE.
 
2013-01-14 02:58:51 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Gender_Gap_Report#Global_Gender_G a p_Index_rankings

northern europe and NZ at the top
islamic countries at the bottom

no surprises
 
2013-01-14 03:00:17 AM

Somacandra: [arkitipintel.com image 400x266] [i.imgur.com image 200x300]
Mass free distribution of anti-rape condoms. Its the only way to be sure


They aren't manufactured and they aren't legal for distribution.
 
2013-01-14 03:04:44 AM

Rustblade: Somacandra: [arkitipintel.com image 400x266] [i.imgur.com image 200x300]
Mass free distribution of anti-rape condoms. Its the only way to be sure

They aren't manufactured and they aren't legal for distribution.


and it would not be real helpful in gang rapes.
worse, the second guy would be careful and check and they would most certainly beat her to death after finding the first one.

expect and uptick in dead rape victims once the police actually start following up on rape reports.
not like india is going to be spending money on dna rape kits ....
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
is there a business opportunity here? dirt cheap DNA rape kits processing.
 
2013-01-14 03:25:22 AM

duffblue: 100 Watt Walrus: Mija: miss diminutive: So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.

About half of aborted children are female. Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women.

If you don't have anything to contribute to the topic and hand,GTFO.

What did you contribute exactly?


Oooo. You sure told me.
 
2013-01-14 03:41:38 AM
quickdraw
TVOD! I was just thinking about you. Can you write a filter for the poli threads that changes the word "gun" to "penis?" It would make the brazillions of gun threads much more entertaining.



It can also enhance the tab itself:
www.clusterfake.net
^
 
2013-01-14 03:53:39 AM

x3leggeddawg: NBC News is reporting that Punjab police publicly named the victim. Yet, there are the suspects, with bags on their heads...

Source: http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/13/16490382-report-six-susp ects-held-over-another-india-bus-gang-rape?lite


Couldn't believe when I saw bags over their heads. Yes, they should get their day in court, but why the hell are their identities being protected over that of the victim?
 
2013-01-14 04:46:40 AM

The Voice of Doom: quickdraw
TVOD! I was just thinking about you. Can you write a filter for the poli threads that changes the word "gun" to "penis?" It would make the brazillions of gun threads much more entertaining.


It can also enhance the tab itself:
[www.clusterfake.net image 837x531]
^


Doomy...
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-14 04:52:44 AM

Juansmith: x3leggeddawg: NBC News is reporting that Punjab police publicly named the victim. Yet, there are the suspects, with bags on their heads...

Source: http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/13/16490382-report-six-susp ects-held-over-another-india-bus-gang-rape?lite

Couldn't believe when I saw bags over their heads. Yes, they should get their day in court, but why the hell are their identities being protected over that of the victim?


Death threats. Seriously, people have been promising to kill them and their families if they find out who they are. And given the state of things in India, probably the cops can't otherwise guarantee their safety, or more importantly, that of their families.
 
2013-01-14 05:04:24 AM

whatshisname: olddinosaur: Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

F me. There's one in every thread...


I guess you didn't hear about the petition to have permits to arm themselves that was denied by their government.

Ignorant farker? Whodathunk?
 
2013-01-14 05:16:36 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: What_Would_Jimi_Do: Somacandra: What_Would_Jimi_Do: real question? can a women walk around with that thing in them and not be uncomfortable?

According to the creator, it feels about like a tampon. I'm sure it varies. Its designed for specific situations where she thinks she'll be vulnerable--mass transit in India certainly would count.

couldn't the possible perp(s) just remove it first?

and what about ass rape and oral rape?


let's stay on topic. We don't need to know about your hobbies
 
2013-01-14 07:13:37 AM
and they say women are the "weaker sex". i don't think so. we're not slaves to our f*cking genitals at the expense of another human being like men are.

watch this pink brigade go into the night and cut off the peckers of every man in their village. i hope that's coming because something has got to give. why do men f*ck with women like this when they think we're "crazy"? are you all f*cking stupid or something? silly question. of course you are.

/hey, all the smart men in here -- do something. now is the time to white knight. like any of you misogynists f*cking care...
 
2013-01-14 07:17:28 AM
Didn't it turn out that the suspects in the last rape were all part of a gang, including the bus driver? Sounds like India has a gang problem then.

Oh and is anyone else getting uncomfortable by the gang rape memes?
 
2013-01-14 07:31:29 AM

Raspil: i don't think so. we're not slaves to our f*cking genitals at the expense of another human being like men are.


Yes you are. Talk to any 30 year old who hasn't had a kid yet.
 
2013-01-14 07:32:43 AM
What kind of Sikh F#*k does something like that?
 
2013-01-14 08:17:12 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Oh and is anyone else getting uncomfortable by the gang rape memes?


Very
 
2013-01-14 08:25:35 AM

Stachelschwein: What kind of Sikh F#*k does something like that?


i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-01-14 08:27:37 AM

Yzziefrog: Stop telling women how not to get raped, and start teaching boys not to rape.


Amen to that! There was an interesting conference here recently on teaching young children about consent - it struck me as a being a very good place to start teaching boys about respect for others (e.g. don't get grabby when you drink, etc.)
 
2013-01-14 09:04:17 AM

booger42: Yzziefrog: Stop telling women how not to get raped, and start teaching boys not to rape.

Amen to that! There was an interesting conference here recently on teaching young children about consent - it struck me as a being a very good place to start teaching boys about respect for others (e.g. don't get grabby when you drink, etc.)



Because every man is a rapist, amirite?
 
2013-01-14 09:12:02 AM
Too bad she didnt have a gun


/god created man, Sam Colt made them equal
 
2013-01-14 09:47:09 AM
late to the party and all, but i'd just like to point out that we're talking about how people should have progressive attitudes towards women in a country where "Some 665 million Indians practice open defecation, more than half the global total.". it's a culture of people who can't even be bothered to find a bathroom if there's a nearby sidewalk. or street or field or river bank or pile of garbage that someone dumped on the sidewalk on top of the poop that was already there.

none of that excuses a culture that's permissive of rape, of course, but any dialogue on the matter should take into regard that we're talking about a bunch of street-pooping savages here.
 
2013-01-14 10:06:07 AM

FormlessOne: Man, it is sure fun watching everyone get on their hobby horses and rock the shiat out of them...


5/6 hobby horses enjoy being rocked.
 
2013-01-14 10:14:47 AM

Joe Blowme: Too bad she didnt have a gun


/god created man, Sam Colt made them equal


FFS man, that has been covered upthread.
 
2013-01-14 10:20:11 AM

doglover: booger42: Yzziefrog: Stop telling women how not to get raped, and start teaching boys not to rape.

Amen to that! There was an interesting conference here recently on teaching young children about consent - it struck me as a being a very good place to start teaching boys about respect for others (e.g. don't get grabby when you drink, etc.)


Because every man is a rapist, amirite?


Don't touch me :*)
 
2013-01-14 10:36:58 AM
I don't know what it is, but even though there's like a billion of them, something about Indian culture has always makde me say, "Nah, no thanks." While there's so many much smaller ones I find more fascinating.
 
2013-01-14 12:21:37 PM

The Voice of Doom: quickdraw
TVOD! I was just thinking about you. Can you write a filter for the poli threads that changes the word "gun" to "penis?" It would make the brazillions of gun threads much more entertaining.


It can also enhance the tab itself:
[www.clusterfake.net image 837x531]
^


BWAHAHAHAHAHAH

Thank you so much TVOD. Ive been stuck in bed with the flu for a couple weeks too sick to do anything but hang out on Fark. You have given me a gift that will keep on giving for years to come. Here is a review ala grad school speak.

"With this important work The Voice Of Doom has employed post post modern Freudian metaphor to translate the American obsession with firearms into graphic terms thereby mediating the tension between subtext and object. This release of tension in the observer is a subversive act as it undermines the mythos of firearms as symbols of political self-sufficiency, and the fear of their removal (they are coming for your guns!) to be nothing more than fear of castration." - quickdraw

<3 you long time
 
2013-01-14 12:28:25 PM

namatad: quickdraw: RISE UP

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Something tells me this group is about to get a whole lot bigger.

http://www.gulabigang.in/index.html

I am skeptical about donating money to such a distant place. The ability to avoid getting completely and totally scammed .....


Well it looks like you donate by contacting the group itself but I agree it would be good to have something more reputable in place. They dont trust NGOs which I understand completely but they need someone reputable in the states to represent them and start collecting funds for them.
 
2013-01-14 12:35:18 PM
I'm getting deja vu from this thread. Rape is illegal in India too. Teaching women methods to help protect themselves from getting raped IS NOT the same thing as condoning rape.

It strikes me as some corollary of being from an entitled generation. OF COURSE we shouldn't encourage people to do things that are shiatty to each other. The fact of the matter is that people do terrible things that they shouldn't be doing every day. It is everyone's obligation to learn techniques to minimize the likelihood of them being victimized.

"Society teaches tourists how not to get robbed when visiting the big city, rather than teaching people not to rob tourists visiting the big city."
 
2013-01-14 12:47:43 PM

Pangea: I'm getting deja vu from this thread. Rape is illegal in India too. Teaching women methods to help protect themselves from getting raped IS NOT the same thing as condoning rape.


Lots of things are illegal that doesn't mean society as a whole condemns them. For example going over the speed limit, under-age drinking and smoking etc.... Yes they are illegal but you see those behaviors glamorized all the time in movies.

"Teaching women to protect themselves from rape" is an idea that only makes sense to men because women already know this shiat. We already know we cant do things men can do like walk alone after dark or park our cars in an large indoor parking facility. We know we have to be careful not to wear the wrong clothes in the wrong place at the wrong time. But you know what? We are farking tired of that shiat. We want to be able to live in the world without looking over our shoulders every damn day. And if we do get raped we want to know that we will be treated with the same seriousness as if we had had our car stolen.
 
2013-01-14 01:01:24 PM

olddinosaur: I am worried it will happen in Amerika, sooner than you might expect.


Like, you know, last August.

/but they're football players!
//they're like headbutting angels from heaven
 
2013-01-14 01:13:07 PM

quickdraw: "Teaching women to protect themselves from rape" is an idea that only makes sense to men because women already know this shiat. We already know we cant do things men can do like walk alone after dark or park our cars in an large indoor parking facility.


I've never raped anyone and I can reliably say that I never will. While I agree with the sentiment that we should live in a society that people don't hurt each other, I must challenge the claim that "women already know this shiat." That's naive, and what you're actually saying is that YOU already know that shiat.

Every single day thousands of girls transition to sexual maturity. Sheltering parents all over the country live in denial about the dangers, or avoid the subject matter because it's so tragic and uncomfortable. To avoid openly discussing techniques to minimize the likelihood of being victimized, because it *shouldn't* be necessary in a modern society is irresponsible and dangerous.
 
2013-01-14 01:13:47 PM

Gaseous Anomaly: Ronin_S: Maybe we can just offer to let any woman who wants to leave the really rapey countries and come to live in North America/Europe/places where you expect to see prison time for this sort of shiat?

It would be interesting to see what those places would be like if almost all the women disappeared.

At least in America there'd be a good chance (sadly not 100%) that, were such a situation to arise, some of the bystanders would open a 40 lb box of whoopass on the attackers.


Looks like you continue to look at the US through rose colored glasses.... not sure if you're kept up with news but there have been numerous cases even recently where rapes were largely ignored by the public. HEck there were MANY cases where people walk past dead bodies!!!
 
2013-01-14 01:23:27 PM

SuperNinjaToad: HEck there were MANY cases where people walk past dead bodies!!!


Maybe I'm overly-optimistic because of my gender. I do recall hearing that women are sometimes advised to yell "Fire" rather than "Help" because people don't want to get involved. A couple links would be helpful to my curiosity if you have any.

It's not gender specific though. I feel like people shouldn't be robbing each other, but I definitely learned a new way of carrying myself in an effort to reduce appearing like an easy target when I could only afford to live in some pretty shady areas.
 
2013-01-14 01:35:49 PM

Pangea: quickdraw: "Teaching women to protect themselves from rape" is an idea that only makes sense to men because women already know this shiat. We already know we cant do things men can do like walk alone after dark or park our cars in an large indoor parking facility.

I've never raped anyone and I can reliably say that I never will. While I agree with the sentiment that we should live in a society that people don't hurt each other, I must challenge the claim that "women already know this shiat." That's naive, and what you're actually saying is that YOU already know that shiat.

Every single day thousands of girls transition to sexual maturity. Sheltering parents all over the country live in denial about the dangers, or avoid the subject matter because it's so tragic and uncomfortable. To avoid openly discussing techniques to minimize the likelihood of being victimized, because it *shouldn't* be necessary in a modern society is irresponsible and dangerous.


What you are saying is simply not true. Go ahead - ask any female you know how early she started to be afraid. Its not a matter of avoiding the subject matter. At all. The entire culture teaches girls to be afraid. I would like to see more emphasis on teaching boys not to rape.

But I have no illusions that you are suddenly going to understand my point. Perhaps maturity and parenthood will give you the perspective you need someday. In the meantime, since you are obviously not female or a parent, I would suggest you defer to those that are when this topis arises because you are clearly talking out of your ass. *shrug*
 
2013-01-14 01:37:58 PM
QuickDraw
"Teaching women to protect themselves from rape" is an idea that only makes sense to men because women already know this shiat. We already know we cant do things men can do like walk alone after dark or park our cars in an large indoor parking facility. We know we have to be careful not to wear the wrong clothes in the wrong place at the wrong time. But you know what? We are farking tired of that shiat. We want to be able to live in the world without looking over our shoulders every damn day. And if we do get raped we want to know that we will be treated with the same seriousness as if we had had our car stolen.

Amen to that. And rape isn't like robbery, that's a farking stupid comparison. Men from all classes in society feel like they have the right to rape. There isn't a robbery culture where victims of robbery get blamed due to their sexual history and police refuse to prosecute because of what the victim was wearing.

The farking defense attorney in India for the bus rape claimed that no "respectable" women get raped in India. Would anyone say anything remotely similair in a robbery case? I don't think so.

A victim of a gang rape in India commited suicide after being pressured by the cops to marry one of her attackers. Does anything remotely similiar happen to robbery victims?
 
2013-01-14 01:53:05 PM
kill them. Slowly.

/DNRTFA
//DNRTFC
 
2013-01-14 02:05:07 PM

illannoyin: This is the reason countries like China and India will never overtake the USA.

Just imagine from the time you are able to understand you know that there is zero possibility of having sex. None. Ever. The society you live in dictates you must be married to have sex. You must be at a certain economic level to marry. The level of society you are born into is the one you stay in and it will never be high enough.

I'm not saying I condone what happened but I can understand it. When those hormones start raging and there's no outlet bad shiat can happen.

I say we ship them a few million fleshlights as a good will gesture.


This is total bullshiat. Men absolutely have the ability to control themselves, no matter the circumstances. Rape is never 'understandable,' and if you think you understand it, then you are a misogynist asshole.
 
2013-01-14 02:05:48 PM
Pangea
SuperNinjaToad:
HEck there were MANY cases where people walk past dead bodies!!!

Maybe I'm overly-optimistic because of my gender. I do recall hearing that women are sometimes advised to yell "Fire" rather than "Help" because people don't want to get involved.


I think those are two different things: the dead body is not wanting to get involved (basically that "somebody else's problem" invisibility cloaking device from H2G2).

That "Fire" thing I've heard as general advice given to kids by police or teachers.
But that's AFAIK less about people not wanting to get involved and more about people being desensitized by false alarms.
If you're in a big city, think about the average reaction to a car alarm going off.
If people hear someone - especially children, because they scream a lot of shiat while playing - yell "Help!", they might not take it too serious and won't react quickly (or at all).
If you yell "help" only once, you often have a comparatively hard job to convince people's minds that there really is an emergency.
 
2013-01-14 02:11:50 PM

GungFu: ktybear: Yzziefrog: Stop telling women how not to get raped, and start teaching boys not to rape.

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This is such annoying crap. We DO teach people not to rape, but ultimately you need to be responsible for your own safety. My girlfriend is really militant about don't blame the victim, this is the bad guy's fault he shouldn't have done this! Wtf did you expect? He's the BAD GUY. If he wasn't the bad guy, he wouldn't be doing this shiat.

This woman did nothing wrong and did not deserve for this to happen any more than the last girl did. I feel bad thinking about what happened to her and do my best to put it out of my mind because of how overwhelmingly awful it is. Unfortunately if your solution is, "Turn India into a western culture with a fully developed infrastructure, none of the crushing poverty that tends to breed an overpopulation of criminally disposed people, and a far less corrupt and far more effective police force... that's not an immediate or realistic solution. "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.
 
2013-01-14 02:15:10 PM
TaterTot_HotDish
illannoyin:

I'm not saying I condone what happened but I can understand it. When those hormones start raging and there's no outlet bad shiat can happen.
I say we ship them a few million fleshlights as a good will gesture.

This is total bullshiat. Men absolutely have the ability to control themselves, no matter the circumstances. Rape is never 'understandable,' and if you think you understand it, then you are a misogynist asshole.


img.fark.com
 
2013-01-14 02:25:50 PM

Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.


Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.
 
2013-01-14 02:27:45 PM

quickdraw: I would like to see more emphasis on teaching boys not to rape.


"Okay Timmy, don't do something awful and criminal"
"Alrighty!"
"Same for you billy"
"fark that I love to hurt things. Doing bad stuff is fun."
"Unfortunately I can't have you put down. Off with you you little rascals."

Do you not get how this works?

By definition people who hurt other people viciously and or habitually are not LIKE us. The military had to implement a huge psych program to try and break down the normal human inhibition to hurting people because during WW2 they were estimating only 1 in four people in any combat situation actually fired their weapon at uniformed enemy soldiers on the field of farking battle. They either didn't shoot at all or fired wildly into the damn air.

Violence runs rampant in shiatty places because we combine lack of opportunity and hopelessness together with ghetoization and poor policing to create areas where humans are socialized to do violence. If you aren't from an area like that, think about the incidence rate of violence in your every day life versus being out late at bars. I have literally never seen an adult human get in a fist fight in a public place before, when they weren't drunk.
 
2013-01-14 02:38:53 PM

Super_pope: quickdraw: I would like to see more emphasis on teaching boys not to rape.

"Okay Timmy, don't do something awful and criminal"
"Alrighty!"
"Same for you billy"
"fark that I love to hurt things. Doing bad stuff is fun."
"Unfortunately I can't have you put down. Off with you you little rascals."

Do you not get how this works?

By definition people who hurt other people viciously and or habitually are not LIKE us. The military had to implement a huge psych program to try and break down the normal human inhibition to hurting people because during WW2 they were estimating only 1 in four people in any combat situation actually fired their weapon at uniformed enemy soldiers on the field of farking battle. They either didn't shoot at all or fired wildly into the damn air.

Violence runs rampant in shiatty places because we combine lack of opportunity and hopelessness together with ghetoization and poor policing to create areas where humans are socialized to do violence. If you aren't from an area like that, think about the incidence rate of violence in your every day life versus being out late at bars. I have literally never seen an adult human get in a fist fight in a public place before, when they weren't drunk.


Rape has very a different meaning than a fist fight, for both the aggressor and the victim. Plenty of middle-class and rich boys and men have raped women... and for the same reason you cite: socialization. So change the socialization. That's what people mean when they say 'teach boys not to rape.'
 
2013-01-14 02:46:52 PM
Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and bet the majority of rapists know what they're doing is bad. Some will try to make excuses, but they know.
 
2013-01-14 02:56:31 PM

TaterTot_HotDish: Super_pope: quickdraw: I would like to see more emphasis on teaching boys not to rape.

"Okay Timmy, don't do something awful and criminal"
"Alrighty!"
"Same for you billy"
"fark that I love to hurt things. Doing bad stuff is fun."
"Unfortunately I can't have you put down. Off with you you little rascals."

Do you not get how this works?

By definition people who hurt other people viciously and or habitually are not LIKE us. The military had to implement a huge psych program to try and break down the normal human inhibition to hurting people because during WW2 they were estimating only 1 in four people in any combat situation actually fired their weapon at uniformed enemy soldiers on the field of farking battle. They either didn't shoot at all or fired wildly into the damn air.

Violence runs rampant in shiatty places because we combine lack of opportunity and hopelessness together with ghetoization and poor policing to create areas where humans are socialized to do violence. If you aren't from an area like that, think about the incidence rate of violence in your every day life versus being out late at bars. I have literally never seen an adult human get in a fist fight in a public place before, when they weren't drunk.

Rape has very a different meaning than a fist fight, for both the aggressor and the victim. Plenty of middle-class and rich boys and men have raped women... and for the same reason you cite: socialization. So change the socialization. That's what people mean when they say 'teach boys not to rape.'


Oh alright well THAT'S a simple and practical solution. We'll alter the way people are socialized ACROSS THE ENTIRE WORLD. Just forgetting about all those real crazies who will tell us all off for wanting to be colonialists and destroy other cultures because they have different values or whatever, "We just need to teach boys not to rape," is a really convenient way to say, "I want to complain about this while doing absolutely nothing." Its basically the same thing as offering prayers to all powerful Feminismo for all men everywhere to just be good. Why can't you just all be good?

I dunno, have we EVER successfully turned around a disadvantaged crap town or borough or city nice and non-violent before without transplanting better people into it a'la gentrification? Pretty much no. Basically the greatest triumph in re-engineering a society in my opinion is the civil rights movement, and truly accomplishing those goals is still a LONG way off, and in parts of the south it still doesn't take much for "provocation" before assholes are driving around dragging nooses behind their cars.

You're talking about a 200+ year solution to a problem that only the most developed place on earth even care about right now and just tossing it off like its nothing. We should just perfect nuclear fusion. We should just stop telomeres from being stripped when a cell divides. We should just invent telepathy. We should just create one world language.

"We should just go out with a friend or two, keep our eyes on people, and probably carry weapons until things change enough that we maybe don't have to." is not a statement like that. I am all too aware the women live with fears I don't. I don't like it, I wish there was more I could do about it. Maybe in 50 or 100 years the things I do in my own small way to make the world a better place will bear fruit.
 
2013-01-14 03:10:15 PM

quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.


Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.
 
2013-01-14 03:11:22 PM

Super_pope: TaterTot_HotDish: Super_pope: quickdraw: I would like to see more emphasis on teaching boys not to rape.

"Okay Timmy, don't do something awful and criminal"
"Alrighty!"
"Same for you billy"
"fark that I love to hurt things. Doing bad stuff is fun."
"Unfortunately I can't have you put down. Off with you you little rascals."

Do you not get how this works?

By definition people who hurt other people viciously and or habitually are not LIKE us. The military had to implement a huge psych program to try and break down the normal human inhibition to hurting people because during WW2 they were estimating only 1 in four people in any combat situation actually fired their weapon at uniformed enemy soldiers on the field of farking battle. They either didn't shoot at all or fired wildly into the damn air.

Violence runs rampant in shiatty places because we combine lack of opportunity and hopelessness together with ghetoization and poor policing to create areas where humans are socialized to do violence. If you aren't from an area like that, think about the incidence rate of violence in your every day life versus being out late at bars. I have literally never seen an adult human get in a fist fight in a public place before, when they weren't drunk.

Rape has very a different meaning than a fist fight, for both the aggressor and the victim. Plenty of middle-class and rich boys and men have raped women... and for the same reason you cite: socialization. So change the socialization. That's what people mean when they say 'teach boys not to rape.'

Oh alright well THAT'S a simple and practical solution. We'll alter the way people are socialized ACROSS THE ENTIRE WORLD. Just forgetting about all those real crazies who will tell us all off for wanting to be colonialists and destroy other cultures because they have different values or whatever, "We just need to teach boys not to rape," is a really convenient way to say, "I want to complain about this while doing absolutely ...


Hey man, I feel your frustration. Yes, it's going to take a long time. But is it also worth doing? Absolutely yes. And attitudes can change in just a generation or two... just look at all the Civil Rights movement and the Women's Rights movement have accomplished, just in the second half of the 20th Century. I guess my response did sound pretty casual, but no, I'm not under any impression that it's going to be easy. But it's the only permanent solution, and until we start taking this re-socialization seriously, women are going to be second-class citizens, constantly living under the threat of rape, and that's just not acceptable to me. WHILE we are attempting to re-educate people (both women and men) it is also a good idea for women to take reasonable safety precautions, because it just makes sense. That doesn't mean that I think it is their fault if they do not take those precautions.
 
2013-01-14 03:18:54 PM

Super_pope: By definition people who hurt other people viciously and or habitually are not LIKE us.


Even if this were true is misses the point. People have to know what they are doing is wrong before they will feel any shame for it. Here in the US we are in the embarrassing position of explaining to a large segment of the population what rape is.

This teach men not to rape movement has sprung up because much to our chagrin we have had a parade of government officials saying things like "In a legitimate rape the woman's body can shut that whole thing down."
 
2013-01-14 03:22:39 PM

Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.


I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.
 
2013-01-14 03:24:08 PM

TaterTot_HotDish: it is also a good idea for women to take reasonable safety precautions,


We already do. Its clearly not enough.
 
2013-01-14 03:30:36 PM

quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.


Practice makes perfect.
 
2013-01-14 03:40:01 PM

quickdraw: TaterTot_HotDish: it is also a good idea for women to take reasonable safety precautions,

We already do. Its clearly not enough.


Yes, we do. I never said it was enough.
 
2013-01-14 03:41:35 PM

Gyrfalcon: quickdraw: Cid_Highwind: quickdraw: The USA (with all our guns and rights) is no better than India when it comes to prosecuting rapists.

If cops straight-up ignored all rape calls and took bribes and booze from rapists, you'd start being remotely correct.

They dont ignore all rape calls - just some of them, and they do take bribes. I am in no way suggesting that we in the US are as bad off as women in India. But dont you think that we ought to be able to do better than a 3% conviction rate?

Uh...we do.

According to FBI statistics, the clearance by arrest for forcible rape is standing at about 40%. That's about three times higher than the 12% quoted on your little chart. I admit, it could be better, but still. Try to be outraged about the right numbers, okay?


Somewhere I read that between 15% to 50% of all reported rapes are false accusations.  If true, that makes the 40% conviction rate pretty damn good.

/sorry, no citation because I can't remember where I read it
 
2013-01-14 03:44:40 PM

quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.


20 gauge shotgun.  Not a whole lot of kick, but will get the message across without needing to aim all that well.  Carrying it around, however, might be a problem.
 
2013-01-14 03:50:26 PM

Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.

Practice makes perfect.


So lets say Im a crack shot. How many can I kill before one of them can get the gun out of my hand?
 
2013-01-14 03:52:13 PM

OgreMagi: quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.

20 gauge shotgun.  Not a whole lot of kick, but will get the message across without needing to aim all that well.  Carrying it around, however, might be a problem.


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.45/410ga 5 shots

But that's not the point. The point is, how would you all react if this had been man-on-man rape? That's how it should be handled every time. That there is a difference is a problem not localized to India.
 
2013-01-14 03:52:50 PM

Gyrfalcon: quickdraw: Cid_Highwind: quickdraw: The USA (with all our guns and rights) is no better than India when it comes to prosecuting rapists.

If cops straight-up ignored all rape calls and took bribes and booze from rapists, you'd start being remotely correct.

They dont ignore all rape calls - just some of them, and they do take bribes. I am in no way suggesting that we in the US are as bad off as women in India. But dont you think that we ought to be able to do better than a 3% conviction rate?

Uh...we do.

According to FBI statistics, the clearance by arrest for forcible rape is standing at about 40%. That's about three times higher than the 12% quoted on your little chart. I admit, it could be better, but still. Try to be outraged about the right numbers, okay?


Stats came from here
 
2013-01-14 03:54:33 PM

OgreMagi: /sorry, no citation because I can't remember where I read it


Thats because its not true. Anyways Ive seen you troll here so often its hard to take you seriously.
 
2013-01-14 03:59:52 PM

OgreMagi: quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.

20 gauge shotgun.  Not a whole lot of kick, but will get the message across without needing to aim all that well.  Carrying it around, however, might be a problem.


I was thinking a .38 or .32 snub nose 5 shot hammerless pocket revolver but it sounds like she has a thing against guns. Maybe she thinks she will grow a small penis if she uses one, from her post thats the impression i am getting.... sorry if i am mis interpreting you quick
 
2013-01-14 04:04:58 PM

quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.

Practice makes perfect.

So lets say Im a crack shot. How many can I kill before one of them can get the gun out of my hand?


Probably 2 or 3 before the rest run. If they ban high cap mags then 6 at the most, if not you could stop 14 or 15 with a pistol. You really never have been around guns have you? I think its time for you to stop making excuses as to why you can not defend yourself and take some gun classes to get over the fear of guns you seem to have. Question is which is greater, your fear of being raped or fear of guns.
 
2013-01-14 04:05:54 PM

quickdraw: OgreMagi: /sorry, no citation because I can't remember where I read it

Thats because its not true. Anyways Ive seen you troll here so often its hard to take you seriously.


Are you claiming that all rape accusations are legitimate?
 
2013-01-14 04:36:06 PM
I'm just going to post this again:

Don't wear make-up.
Don't wear your hair long.
Don't wear short skirts.
Don't wear high heels.
Don't wear tight-fitting clothes.
Don't look sexy.
Don't bat your eyelashes.
Don't crack dirty jokes.
Don't flirt.
Don't smile at strangers.
Don't offer to help strangers.
Don't go out at night.
Don't go to parties.
Don't go on dates.
Don't go anywhere alone.
Don't attract attention.
Don't work late.
Don't trust anyone.
Don't say yes.
Don't say no.
Don't be a woman.
Don't exist.

/not my work
//if anyone knows who the original author is, let me know so I can credit them
 
2013-01-14 08:34:57 PM
If only women in that country could carry.
 
2013-01-14 10:05:49 PM

quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.


"But I can't eat a vegan diet, because plants are living creatures too."
"Well, I guess you can eat honey collected without harming bees, or milk taken from cows that produce too much..."
"But honey tastes nasty. And I'm lactose intolerant. NOW WHAT, HUH SMARTASS? NOW WHAT?"

/then DIAF
//srsly
 
2013-01-14 10:14:17 PM

Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.

Practice makes perfect.

So lets say Im a crack shot. How many can I kill before one of them can get the gun out of my hand?

Probably 2 or 3 before the rest run. If they ban high cap mags then 6 at the most, if not you could stop 14 or 15 with a pistol. You really never have been around guns have you? I think its time for you to stop making excuses as to why you can not defend yourself and take some gun classes to get over the fear of guns you seem to have. Question is which is greater, your fear of being raped or fear of guns.


lol - not afraid of a gun unless its pointed at me. But this isnt about me personally its about the rape friendly culture we live in. I see jokes on Fark all the time about rape but you know what I never see? Jokes about castration. Know why? Guys dont think castration is funny. Not even a little bit. Women feel the same way about rape its not funny to us - not even a little bit and until you guys stop making rape jokes we women are going to think you are assholes.

All this bullshiat deflecting the real issue and pulling out your gun fantasies to fondle is just ludicrous and childish. You want to give every female on the planet a gun at the age of 4? Because thats when this shiat starts. Maybe you guys should stop with the absurd mansplaining about guns and get your own house in order. We really dont give a shiat about your gun fantasies.
 
2013-01-14 10:19:43 PM

JDAT: If only women in that country could carry.


Women in this country can carry. We have just as much rape here. 1 in 3 women in the US have been raped/fondled/abused. How old do you think women should be when they start carrying guns? Tell me how the right to carry a gun would have helped my friend who got raped at 11 by her uncle. Or my SIL who got raped at 4 years old. Or how about my friend who was drugged by an acquaintance at a bar and then raped? How the hell would guns have helped any of them?

Next time you are in a room full of women realize that 1/3 of them have been physically violated.
 
2013-01-14 11:39:21 PM
quickdraw
you know what I never see? Jokes about castration. Know why?

Because you don't speak German and certain jokes just don't translate well.

Wie kastriert man einen Kühlschrank?
Tür auf, Eier raus, Tür zu!
=
How does one castrate a refrigerator?
Open door, out [with the] eggs, close door!


Well, you obviously have to know that the by far most common slang term for testicles in German is "Eier" (eggs), so it sounds a lot less like sterilization and lot more like castration.


I guess an Americanized version could be about castrating a bowling alley.
Or a sports bag (zip down, go for the balls, zip up).

Or you could work the nuts and twig&berries angle: grab twig, rip off [nuts|berries], release twig.
 
2013-01-15 12:28:02 AM

The Voice of Doom: Because you don't speak German and certain jokes just don't translate well.


lol - thanks for enlightening me.
 
2013-01-15 08:15:16 AM

quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.

Practice makes perfect.

So lets say Im a crack shot. How many can I kill before one of them can get the gun out of my hand?

Probably 2 or 3 before the rest run. If they ban high cap mags then 6 at the most, if not you could stop 14 or 15 with a pistol. You really never have been around guns have you? I think its time for you to stop making excuses as to why you can not defend yourself and take some gun classes to get over the fear of guns you seem to have. Question is which is greater, your fear of being raped or fear of guns.

lol - not afraid of a gun unless its pointed at me. But this isnt about me personally its about the rape friendly culture we live in. I see jokes on Fark all the time about rape but you know what I never see? Jokes about castration. Know why? Guys dont think castration is funny. Not even a little bit. Women feel the same way about rape its not funny to us - not even a little bit and until you guys stop making rape jokes we women are going to think you are assholes.

All this bullshiat deflecting the real issue and pulling out your gun fantasies to fondle is just ludicrous and childish. You want to give every female on the ...


Wow, now it comes out... you hate men AND guns. Sorry if you had some experience with dickish men but we are all not like that even though you seem to be one of thoses who hears what they want to hear and know only what you heard.
 
2013-01-15 10:36:13 AM

quickdraw: I see jokes on Fark all the time about rape but you know what I never see? Jokes about castration. Know why? Guys dont think castration is funny. Not even a little bit. Women feel the same way about rape its not funny to us - not even a little bit and until you guys stop making rape jokes we women are going to think you are assholes.


This part cleared up the doubts I had that maybe you weren't irrational. I had no idea I found castration off limits, in fact I can picture myself laughing heartily at a good castration joke. I could also probably find you a million prison rape jokes where the victim is male.
 
2013-01-16 10:09:25 AM

quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.


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AK-47. The very best there is. When you absolutely, positively got to kill every motherfarker in the room, accept no substitutes.
 
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