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2013-01-14 02:05:07 PM

illannoyin: This is the reason countries like China and India will never overtake the USA.

Just imagine from the time you are able to understand you know that there is zero possibility of having sex. None. Ever. The society you live in dictates you must be married to have sex. You must be at a certain economic level to marry. The level of society you are born into is the one you stay in and it will never be high enough.

I'm not saying I condone what happened but I can understand it. When those hormones start raging and there's no outlet bad shiat can happen.

I say we ship them a few million fleshlights as a good will gesture.


This is total bullshiat. Men absolutely have the ability to control themselves, no matter the circumstances. Rape is never 'understandable,' and if you think you understand it, then you are a misogynist asshole.
 
2013-01-14 02:05:48 PM
Pangea
SuperNinjaToad:
HEck there were MANY cases where people walk past dead bodies!!!

Maybe I'm overly-optimistic because of my gender. I do recall hearing that women are sometimes advised to yell "Fire" rather than "Help" because people don't want to get involved.


I think those are two different things: the dead body is not wanting to get involved (basically that "somebody else's problem" invisibility cloaking device from H2G2).

That "Fire" thing I've heard as general advice given to kids by police or teachers.
But that's AFAIK less about people not wanting to get involved and more about people being desensitized by false alarms.
If you're in a big city, think about the average reaction to a car alarm going off.
If people hear someone - especially children, because they scream a lot of shiat while playing - yell "Help!", they might not take it too serious and won't react quickly (or at all).
If you yell "help" only once, you often have a comparatively hard job to convince people's minds that there really is an emergency.
 
2013-01-14 02:11:50 PM

GungFu: ktybear: Yzziefrog: Stop telling women how not to get raped, and start teaching boys not to rape.

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This is such annoying crap. We DO teach people not to rape, but ultimately you need to be responsible for your own safety. My girlfriend is really militant about don't blame the victim, this is the bad guy's fault he shouldn't have done this! Wtf did you expect? He's the BAD GUY. If he wasn't the bad guy, he wouldn't be doing this shiat.

This woman did nothing wrong and did not deserve for this to happen any more than the last girl did. I feel bad thinking about what happened to her and do my best to put it out of my mind because of how overwhelmingly awful it is. Unfortunately if your solution is, "Turn India into a western culture with a fully developed infrastructure, none of the crushing poverty that tends to breed an overpopulation of criminally disposed people, and a far less corrupt and far more effective police force... that's not an immediate or realistic solution. "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.
 
2013-01-14 02:15:10 PM
TaterTot_HotDish
illannoyin:

I'm not saying I condone what happened but I can understand it. When those hormones start raging and there's no outlet bad shiat can happen.
I say we ship them a few million fleshlights as a good will gesture.

This is total bullshiat. Men absolutely have the ability to control themselves, no matter the circumstances. Rape is never 'understandable,' and if you think you understand it, then you are a misogynist asshole.


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2013-01-14 02:25:50 PM

Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.


Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.
 
2013-01-14 02:27:45 PM

quickdraw: I would like to see more emphasis on teaching boys not to rape.


"Okay Timmy, don't do something awful and criminal"
"Alrighty!"
"Same for you billy"
"fark that I love to hurt things. Doing bad stuff is fun."
"Unfortunately I can't have you put down. Off with you you little rascals."

Do you not get how this works?

By definition people who hurt other people viciously and or habitually are not LIKE us. The military had to implement a huge psych program to try and break down the normal human inhibition to hurting people because during WW2 they were estimating only 1 in four people in any combat situation actually fired their weapon at uniformed enemy soldiers on the field of farking battle. They either didn't shoot at all or fired wildly into the damn air.

Violence runs rampant in shiatty places because we combine lack of opportunity and hopelessness together with ghetoization and poor policing to create areas where humans are socialized to do violence. If you aren't from an area like that, think about the incidence rate of violence in your every day life versus being out late at bars. I have literally never seen an adult human get in a fist fight in a public place before, when they weren't drunk.
 
2013-01-14 02:38:53 PM

Super_pope: quickdraw: I would like to see more emphasis on teaching boys not to rape.

"Okay Timmy, don't do something awful and criminal"
"Alrighty!"
"Same for you billy"
"fark that I love to hurt things. Doing bad stuff is fun."
"Unfortunately I can't have you put down. Off with you you little rascals."

Do you not get how this works?

By definition people who hurt other people viciously and or habitually are not LIKE us. The military had to implement a huge psych program to try and break down the normal human inhibition to hurting people because during WW2 they were estimating only 1 in four people in any combat situation actually fired their weapon at uniformed enemy soldiers on the field of farking battle. They either didn't shoot at all or fired wildly into the damn air.

Violence runs rampant in shiatty places because we combine lack of opportunity and hopelessness together with ghetoization and poor policing to create areas where humans are socialized to do violence. If you aren't from an area like that, think about the incidence rate of violence in your every day life versus being out late at bars. I have literally never seen an adult human get in a fist fight in a public place before, when they weren't drunk.


Rape has very a different meaning than a fist fight, for both the aggressor and the victim. Plenty of middle-class and rich boys and men have raped women... and for the same reason you cite: socialization. So change the socialization. That's what people mean when they say 'teach boys not to rape.'
 
2013-01-14 02:46:52 PM
Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and bet the majority of rapists know what they're doing is bad. Some will try to make excuses, but they know.
 
2013-01-14 02:56:31 PM

TaterTot_HotDish: Super_pope: quickdraw: I would like to see more emphasis on teaching boys not to rape.

"Okay Timmy, don't do something awful and criminal"
"Alrighty!"
"Same for you billy"
"fark that I love to hurt things. Doing bad stuff is fun."
"Unfortunately I can't have you put down. Off with you you little rascals."

Do you not get how this works?

By definition people who hurt other people viciously and or habitually are not LIKE us. The military had to implement a huge psych program to try and break down the normal human inhibition to hurting people because during WW2 they were estimating only 1 in four people in any combat situation actually fired their weapon at uniformed enemy soldiers on the field of farking battle. They either didn't shoot at all or fired wildly into the damn air.

Violence runs rampant in shiatty places because we combine lack of opportunity and hopelessness together with ghetoization and poor policing to create areas where humans are socialized to do violence. If you aren't from an area like that, think about the incidence rate of violence in your every day life versus being out late at bars. I have literally never seen an adult human get in a fist fight in a public place before, when they weren't drunk.

Rape has very a different meaning than a fist fight, for both the aggressor and the victim. Plenty of middle-class and rich boys and men have raped women... and for the same reason you cite: socialization. So change the socialization. That's what people mean when they say 'teach boys not to rape.'


Oh alright well THAT'S a simple and practical solution. We'll alter the way people are socialized ACROSS THE ENTIRE WORLD. Just forgetting about all those real crazies who will tell us all off for wanting to be colonialists and destroy other cultures because they have different values or whatever, "We just need to teach boys not to rape," is a really convenient way to say, "I want to complain about this while doing absolutely nothing." Its basically the same thing as offering prayers to all powerful Feminismo for all men everywhere to just be good. Why can't you just all be good?

I dunno, have we EVER successfully turned around a disadvantaged crap town or borough or city nice and non-violent before without transplanting better people into it a'la gentrification? Pretty much no. Basically the greatest triumph in re-engineering a society in my opinion is the civil rights movement, and truly accomplishing those goals is still a LONG way off, and in parts of the south it still doesn't take much for "provocation" before assholes are driving around dragging nooses behind their cars.

You're talking about a 200+ year solution to a problem that only the most developed place on earth even care about right now and just tossing it off like its nothing. We should just perfect nuclear fusion. We should just stop telomeres from being stripped when a cell divides. We should just invent telepathy. We should just create one world language.

"We should just go out with a friend or two, keep our eyes on people, and probably carry weapons until things change enough that we maybe don't have to." is not a statement like that. I am all too aware the women live with fears I don't. I don't like it, I wish there was more I could do about it. Maybe in 50 or 100 years the things I do in my own small way to make the world a better place will bear fruit.
 
2013-01-14 03:10:15 PM

quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.


Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.
 
2013-01-14 03:11:22 PM

Super_pope: TaterTot_HotDish: Super_pope: quickdraw: I would like to see more emphasis on teaching boys not to rape.

"Okay Timmy, don't do something awful and criminal"
"Alrighty!"
"Same for you billy"
"fark that I love to hurt things. Doing bad stuff is fun."
"Unfortunately I can't have you put down. Off with you you little rascals."

Do you not get how this works?

By definition people who hurt other people viciously and or habitually are not LIKE us. The military had to implement a huge psych program to try and break down the normal human inhibition to hurting people because during WW2 they were estimating only 1 in four people in any combat situation actually fired their weapon at uniformed enemy soldiers on the field of farking battle. They either didn't shoot at all or fired wildly into the damn air.

Violence runs rampant in shiatty places because we combine lack of opportunity and hopelessness together with ghetoization and poor policing to create areas where humans are socialized to do violence. If you aren't from an area like that, think about the incidence rate of violence in your every day life versus being out late at bars. I have literally never seen an adult human get in a fist fight in a public place before, when they weren't drunk.

Rape has very a different meaning than a fist fight, for both the aggressor and the victim. Plenty of middle-class and rich boys and men have raped women... and for the same reason you cite: socialization. So change the socialization. That's what people mean when they say 'teach boys not to rape.'

Oh alright well THAT'S a simple and practical solution. We'll alter the way people are socialized ACROSS THE ENTIRE WORLD. Just forgetting about all those real crazies who will tell us all off for wanting to be colonialists and destroy other cultures because they have different values or whatever, "We just need to teach boys not to rape," is a really convenient way to say, "I want to complain about this while doing absolutely ...


Hey man, I feel your frustration. Yes, it's going to take a long time. But is it also worth doing? Absolutely yes. And attitudes can change in just a generation or two... just look at all the Civil Rights movement and the Women's Rights movement have accomplished, just in the second half of the 20th Century. I guess my response did sound pretty casual, but no, I'm not under any impression that it's going to be easy. But it's the only permanent solution, and until we start taking this re-socialization seriously, women are going to be second-class citizens, constantly living under the threat of rape, and that's just not acceptable to me. WHILE we are attempting to re-educate people (both women and men) it is also a good idea for women to take reasonable safety precautions, because it just makes sense. That doesn't mean that I think it is their fault if they do not take those precautions.
 
2013-01-14 03:18:54 PM

Super_pope: By definition people who hurt other people viciously and or habitually are not LIKE us.


Even if this were true is misses the point. People have to know what they are doing is wrong before they will feel any shame for it. Here in the US we are in the embarrassing position of explaining to a large segment of the population what rape is.

This teach men not to rape movement has sprung up because much to our chagrin we have had a parade of government officials saying things like "In a legitimate rape the woman's body can shut that whole thing down."
 
2013-01-14 03:22:39 PM

Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.


I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.
 
2013-01-14 03:24:08 PM

TaterTot_HotDish: it is also a good idea for women to take reasonable safety precautions,


We already do. Its clearly not enough.
 
2013-01-14 03:30:36 PM

quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.


Practice makes perfect.
 
2013-01-14 03:40:01 PM

quickdraw: TaterTot_HotDish: it is also a good idea for women to take reasonable safety precautions,

We already do. Its clearly not enough.


Yes, we do. I never said it was enough.
 
2013-01-14 03:41:35 PM

Gyrfalcon: quickdraw: Cid_Highwind: quickdraw: The USA (with all our guns and rights) is no better than India when it comes to prosecuting rapists.

If cops straight-up ignored all rape calls and took bribes and booze from rapists, you'd start being remotely correct.

They dont ignore all rape calls - just some of them, and they do take bribes. I am in no way suggesting that we in the US are as bad off as women in India. But dont you think that we ought to be able to do better than a 3% conviction rate?

Uh...we do.

According to FBI statistics, the clearance by arrest for forcible rape is standing at about 40%. That's about three times higher than the 12% quoted on your little chart. I admit, it could be better, but still. Try to be outraged about the right numbers, okay?


Somewhere I read that between 15% to 50% of all reported rapes are false accusations.  If true, that makes the 40% conviction rate pretty damn good.

/sorry, no citation because I can't remember where I read it
 
2013-01-14 03:44:40 PM

quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.


20 gauge shotgun.  Not a whole lot of kick, but will get the message across without needing to aim all that well.  Carrying it around, however, might be a problem.
 
2013-01-14 03:50:26 PM

Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.

Practice makes perfect.


So lets say Im a crack shot. How many can I kill before one of them can get the gun out of my hand?
 
2013-01-14 03:52:13 PM

OgreMagi: quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.

20 gauge shotgun.  Not a whole lot of kick, but will get the message across without needing to aim all that well.  Carrying it around, however, might be a problem.


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.45/410ga 5 shots

But that's not the point. The point is, how would you all react if this had been man-on-man rape? That's how it should be handled every time. That there is a difference is a problem not localized to India.
 
2013-01-14 03:52:50 PM

Gyrfalcon: quickdraw: Cid_Highwind: quickdraw: The USA (with all our guns and rights) is no better than India when it comes to prosecuting rapists.

If cops straight-up ignored all rape calls and took bribes and booze from rapists, you'd start being remotely correct.

They dont ignore all rape calls - just some of them, and they do take bribes. I am in no way suggesting that we in the US are as bad off as women in India. But dont you think that we ought to be able to do better than a 3% conviction rate?

Uh...we do.

According to FBI statistics, the clearance by arrest for forcible rape is standing at about 40%. That's about three times higher than the 12% quoted on your little chart. I admit, it could be better, but still. Try to be outraged about the right numbers, okay?


Stats came from here
 
2013-01-14 03:54:33 PM

OgreMagi: /sorry, no citation because I can't remember where I read it


Thats because its not true. Anyways Ive seen you troll here so often its hard to take you seriously.
 
2013-01-14 03:59:52 PM

OgreMagi: quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.

20 gauge shotgun.  Not a whole lot of kick, but will get the message across without needing to aim all that well.  Carrying it around, however, might be a problem.


I was thinking a .38 or .32 snub nose 5 shot hammerless pocket revolver but it sounds like she has a thing against guns. Maybe she thinks she will grow a small penis if she uses one, from her post thats the impression i am getting.... sorry if i am mis interpreting you quick
 
2013-01-14 04:04:58 PM

quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.

Practice makes perfect.

So lets say Im a crack shot. How many can I kill before one of them can get the gun out of my hand?


Probably 2 or 3 before the rest run. If they ban high cap mags then 6 at the most, if not you could stop 14 or 15 with a pistol. You really never have been around guns have you? I think its time for you to stop making excuses as to why you can not defend yourself and take some gun classes to get over the fear of guns you seem to have. Question is which is greater, your fear of being raped or fear of guns.
 
2013-01-14 04:05:54 PM

quickdraw: OgreMagi: /sorry, no citation because I can't remember where I read it

Thats because its not true. Anyways Ive seen you troll here so often its hard to take you seriously.


Are you claiming that all rape accusations are legitimate?
 
2013-01-14 04:36:06 PM
I'm just going to post this again:

Don't wear make-up.
Don't wear your hair long.
Don't wear short skirts.
Don't wear high heels.
Don't wear tight-fitting clothes.
Don't look sexy.
Don't bat your eyelashes.
Don't crack dirty jokes.
Don't flirt.
Don't smile at strangers.
Don't offer to help strangers.
Don't go out at night.
Don't go to parties.
Don't go on dates.
Don't go anywhere alone.
Don't attract attention.
Don't work late.
Don't trust anyone.
Don't say yes.
Don't say no.
Don't be a woman.
Don't exist.

/not my work
//if anyone knows who the original author is, let me know so I can credit them
 
2013-01-14 08:34:57 PM
If only women in that country could carry.
 
2013-01-14 10:05:49 PM

quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.


"But I can't eat a vegan diet, because plants are living creatures too."
"Well, I guess you can eat honey collected without harming bees, or milk taken from cows that produce too much..."
"But honey tastes nasty. And I'm lactose intolerant. NOW WHAT, HUH SMARTASS? NOW WHAT?"

/then DIAF
//srsly
 
2013-01-14 10:14:17 PM

Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.

Practice makes perfect.

So lets say Im a crack shot. How many can I kill before one of them can get the gun out of my hand?

Probably 2 or 3 before the rest run. If they ban high cap mags then 6 at the most, if not you could stop 14 or 15 with a pistol. You really never have been around guns have you? I think its time for you to stop making excuses as to why you can not defend yourself and take some gun classes to get over the fear of guns you seem to have. Question is which is greater, your fear of being raped or fear of guns.


lol - not afraid of a gun unless its pointed at me. But this isnt about me personally its about the rape friendly culture we live in. I see jokes on Fark all the time about rape but you know what I never see? Jokes about castration. Know why? Guys dont think castration is funny. Not even a little bit. Women feel the same way about rape its not funny to us - not even a little bit and until you guys stop making rape jokes we women are going to think you are assholes.

All this bullshiat deflecting the real issue and pulling out your gun fantasies to fondle is just ludicrous and childish. You want to give every female on the planet a gun at the age of 4? Because thats when this shiat starts. Maybe you guys should stop with the absurd mansplaining about guns and get your own house in order. We really dont give a shiat about your gun fantasies.
 
2013-01-14 10:19:43 PM

JDAT: If only women in that country could carry.


Women in this country can carry. We have just as much rape here. 1 in 3 women in the US have been raped/fondled/abused. How old do you think women should be when they start carrying guns? Tell me how the right to carry a gun would have helped my friend who got raped at 11 by her uncle. Or my SIL who got raped at 4 years old. Or how about my friend who was drugged by an acquaintance at a bar and then raped? How the hell would guns have helped any of them?

Next time you are in a room full of women realize that 1/3 of them have been physically violated.
 
2013-01-14 11:39:21 PM
quickdraw
you know what I never see? Jokes about castration. Know why?

Because you don't speak German and certain jokes just don't translate well.

Wie kastriert man einen Kühlschrank?
Tür auf, Eier raus, Tür zu!
=
How does one castrate a refrigerator?
Open door, out [with the] eggs, close door!


Well, you obviously have to know that the by far most common slang term for testicles in German is "Eier" (eggs), so it sounds a lot less like sterilization and lot more like castration.


I guess an Americanized version could be about castrating a bowling alley.
Or a sports bag (zip down, go for the balls, zip up).

Or you could work the nuts and twig&berries angle: grab twig, rip off [nuts|berries], release twig.
 
2013-01-15 12:28:02 AM

The Voice of Doom: Because you don't speak German and certain jokes just don't translate well.


lol - thanks for enlightening me.
 
2013-01-15 08:15:16 AM

quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.

Practice makes perfect.

So lets say Im a crack shot. How many can I kill before one of them can get the gun out of my hand?

Probably 2 or 3 before the rest run. If they ban high cap mags then 6 at the most, if not you could stop 14 or 15 with a pistol. You really never have been around guns have you? I think its time for you to stop making excuses as to why you can not defend yourself and take some gun classes to get over the fear of guns you seem to have. Question is which is greater, your fear of being raped or fear of guns.

lol - not afraid of a gun unless its pointed at me. But this isnt about me personally its about the rape friendly culture we live in. I see jokes on Fark all the time about rape but you know what I never see? Jokes about castration. Know why? Guys dont think castration is funny. Not even a little bit. Women feel the same way about rape its not funny to us - not even a little bit and until you guys stop making rape jokes we women are going to think you are assholes.

All this bullshiat deflecting the real issue and pulling out your gun fantasies to fondle is just ludicrous and childish. You want to give every female on the ...


Wow, now it comes out... you hate men AND guns. Sorry if you had some experience with dickish men but we are all not like that even though you seem to be one of thoses who hears what they want to hear and know only what you heard.
 
2013-01-15 10:36:13 AM

quickdraw: I see jokes on Fark all the time about rape but you know what I never see? Jokes about castration. Know why? Guys dont think castration is funny. Not even a little bit. Women feel the same way about rape its not funny to us - not even a little bit and until you guys stop making rape jokes we women are going to think you are assholes.


This part cleared up the doubts I had that maybe you weren't irrational. I had no idea I found castration off limits, in fact I can picture myself laughing heartily at a good castration joke. I could also probably find you a million prison rape jokes where the victim is male.
 
2013-01-16 10:09:25 AM

quickdraw: Joe Blowme: quickdraw: Super_pope: "Travel in groups with people you know for your own safety," is a much more effective and immediate one. Is that fair? Not even a little. Is it better to suffer inconvenience and unfairness than a brutal gang-assault? Yep.

Its not a matter of inconvenience you nitwit. Tell you what - why dont you practice what you preach and get back to me. Every time you want to go somewhere - work, the store, whatever - you call 4 of your buddies to come with you. Oh wait. They dont live in the same house as you? Gosh I guess you are all stuck.

What you are suggesting is imprisonment for all women.

Easy, get a gun. Protect yourself, no one else will.

I am 5'4" and 120 pounds. My aim is terrible and I have permanent damage to my right shoulder. Now what.


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