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(CNN)   Seven men gang rape bus passenger in India, sadly this is not a repeat from last month   (cnn.com) divider line 285
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2013-01-13 09:47:11 PM

aninconvenienterection: if only other passengers on the bus had the right to carry concealed firearms and have a chance to thwart this brutal attack.

/is serious


If you were serious you would have read the article. There were no other passengers.
 
2013-01-13 09:47:29 PM
She was asking for it. Everyone knows that riding a bus is a sure sign of being a whore.
 
2013-01-13 09:47:55 PM
Has anybody pointed out that x out of y people enjoy gang rape? 'Cause would that ever be funny.
 
2013-01-13 09:48:15 PM
Police in India are going to have to up their response time like this from now on, unless they're okay with (gang)rape suspects being trampled to death by angry women.


/instant karma's gonna get you
 
2013-01-13 09:49:02 PM

computerguyUT: Well, one of their holy men told everyone that it's okay and that it's partially the female's fault.

Might as well have rung the gang rape dinner bell.

Dumbasses.


That holy man is about as popular as pastor Terry Jones. No body gives an actual fark
 
2013-01-13 09:52:56 PM

Gaseous Anomaly: Ronin_S: Maybe we can just offer to let any woman who wants to leave the really rapey countries and come to live in North America/Europe/places where you expect to see prison time for this sort of shiat?

It would be interesting to see what those places would be like if almost all the women disappeared.

At least in America there'd be a good chance (sadly not 100%) that, were such a situation to arise, some of the bystanders would open a 40 lb box of whoopass on the attackers.


If they thought nobody else was watching, they'd be more likely to join in. Or just whip out a camera phone and film the whole thing before walking away.
 
2013-01-13 09:53:31 PM
Man, it is sure fun watching everyone get on their hobby horses and rock the shiat out of them...
 
2013-01-13 09:54:42 PM

over_and_done: Gaseous Anomaly: Ronin_S: Maybe we can just offer to let any woman who wants to leave the really rapey countries and come to live in North America/Europe/places where you expect to see prison time for this sort of shiat?

It would be interesting to see what those places would be like if almost all the women disappeared.

At least in America there'd be a good chance (sadly not 100%) that, were such a situation to arise, some of the bystanders would open a 40 lb box of whoopass on the attackers.

If they thought nobody else was watching, they'd be more likely to join in. Or just whip out a camera phone and film the whole thing before walking away.


As both situations have happened here, yeah. Hell, we made a movie about the first scenario.
 
2013-01-13 09:54:44 PM

aninconvenienterection: if only other passengers on the bus had the right to carry concealed firearms and have a chance to thwart this brutal attack.

/is serious


There were no other passengers.
 
2013-01-13 09:54:59 PM
Can't they just eat more curry to make everyone around them want to keep their distance, or something?
 
2013-01-13 09:56:22 PM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: Somacandra: [arkitipintel.com image 400x266] [i.imgur.com image 200x300]
Mass free distribution of anti-rape condoms. Its the only way to be sure

real question? can a women walk around with that thing in them and not be uncomfortable?


That is the men's prototpe.
 
2013-01-13 09:56:40 PM
They said on CNN the other night that there is a rape every 52 seconds or minute (can't remember now) in India. Either way. That's insane !!
 
2013-01-13 09:57:37 PM

aninconvenienterection: if only other passengers on the bus had the right to carry concealed firearms and have a chance to thwart this brutal attack.

/is serious

"The bus sped past her stop, police said. By that time, the woman was the only passenger.

The bus driver and his helper then took the married 29-year-old woman to an undisclosed address where five others joined the two men and raped her throughout the night, police said."



I sense a flaw in your reasoning...

Can we stop blaming other people for not being there, the victim for not being armed, or the god-damn bus company for not making rape-proof vehicles, and concentrate on the real culprits? As long as a society deems women to be second-class citizens that can be held down, sold, or brutalized without consequences, shiat like that is going to happen. Indian society needs to evolve - hopefully it won't take them too long.
 
2013-01-13 09:57:55 PM

aninconvenienterection: if only other passengers on the bus had the right to carry concealed firearms and have a chance to thwart this brutal attack.

/is serious


I read an article recently where requests for permission to buy a handgun are up significantly in India. Unfortunately they are rarely approved, and the cops more or less blamed the increase in applications on hysteria and said it would soon pass. In other words, the possibility (make that certainty since another has happened) that more women would get ganged raped was an acceptable price to pay to keep a few extra guns out of civilian hands.

/interesting what passes for logic there...or some American cities actually
 
2013-01-13 09:59:43 PM
Did they yell "Surprise!" first?
 
2013-01-13 10:00:57 PM

quickdraw: RISE UP

[cdn.thedailybeast.com image 387x302]

Something tells me this group is about to get a whole lot bigger.


I seriously,  seriously farking love that group  so damn much. That is like the answer to every single time I've asked "why is no one fighting back?". And it is  beautiful.
 
2013-01-13 10:02:23 PM
I'm curious as to what political agenda they hope achieve by arranging all these gang rapes?
 
2013-01-13 10:04:09 PM

Ronin_S: Maybe we can just offer to let any woman who wants to leave the really rapey countries and come to live in North America/Europe/places where you expect to see prison time for this sort of shiat?

It would be interesting to see what those places would be like if almost all the women disappeared.


Rape is, in fact, a crime in India.
 
2013-01-13 10:07:22 PM

hdhale: aninconvenienterection: if only other passengers on the bus had the right to carry concealed firearms and have a chance to thwart this brutal attack.

/is serious

I read an article recently where requests for permission to buy a handgun are up significantly in India. Unfortunately they are rarely approved, and the cops more or less blamed the increase in applications on hysteria and said it would soon pass. In other words, the possibility (make that certainty since another has happened) that more women would get ganged raped was an acceptable price to pay to keep a few extra guns out of civilian hands.

/interesting what passes for logic there...or some American cities actually


the good news is, this too shall pass....

/ack
 
2013-01-13 10:07:22 PM

cmb53208: hdhale: jnapier: At least in America there'd be a good chance (sadly not 100%) that, were such a situation to arise, some of the bystanders would open a 40 lb box of whoopass on the attackers.

How many that live in Stubenville Ohio?

Having been to Steubenville, Ohio, I think perhaps the whoopass delivery trucks don't stop there.

Read the wiki article on Steubenville: the place is so miserable that I doubt anything stops there


This statement always give me a moment of "huh?" Before I realize we're thinking of very different parts of Steubenville. You're thinking shiat-hole ghetto with a rape problem, I'm thinking of the ultra-conservative Catholic college Franciscan University of Steubenville (or just Steubenville for short). Devout Catholics times 100. As in huge numbers of them are virgins when they marry, or become nuns/priests/monks. Where the weedy guitar player who leads the folk singing group is big man on campus and has the pick of the girls.
 
2013-01-13 10:07:57 PM

thisiszombocom: [cdn.motinetwork.net image 640x540]


I didn't know Dolph Lundgren was down with the rapiness... learn something new every day on Fark
 
2013-01-13 10:08:11 PM

Ronin_S: rapey


It would be more interesting to see what Canada looked like after an influx of 200 million women.
 
2013-01-13 10:08:39 PM

olddinosaur: No Such Agency: olddinosaur:
Why doesn't someone ask her how happy she is to live in a country with strict gun laws?

I am sure her she is grateful her country feels so kindly towards her, as to deprive her of a deadly weapon with which she might easily harm someone, like those innocent young men who were just having some carefree youthful fun.

Seriously, dude? "This is Fark" only excuses so much in the way of trolling. But just in case you are so thick as to be sincere, if India was as awash in handguns as America is, odds are the minibus driver would have had one too.

I don't care what they do in India, it is their country to run as they see fit. I am worried it will happen in Amerika, sooner than you might expect.

Think about that when the gang bangers knock down your door in the middle of the night and shoot your children in the back, and say it was okay because they thought there might be some drugs, or maybe someone heard something about some drugs, or maybe they thought someone said someone to somebody about some drugs or something.

Make sure you thank them politely, some of those kids might have grown up to become junkies.

"---stirbt hoeflich und sagt: 'danke sehr.'" --- Erich Kaestner


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2013-01-13 10:08:44 PM

Yzziefrog: aninconvenienterection: if only other passengers on the bus had the right to carry concealed firearms and have a chance to thwart this brutal attack.

/is serious

"The bus sped past her stop, police said. By that time, the woman was the only passenger.

The bus driver and his helper then took the married 29-year-old woman to an undisclosed address where five others joined the two men and raped her throughout the night, police said."


I sense a flaw in your reasoning...

Can we stop blaming other people for not being there, the victim for not being armed, or the god-damn bus company for not making rape-proof vehicles, and concentrate on the real culprits? As long as a society deems women to be second-class citizens that can be held down, sold, or brutalized without consequences, shiat like that is going to happen. Indian society needs to evolve - hopefully it won't take them too long.


Whoa on the bolded part. Where exactly did you get that information? I am not pretending human trafficking doesn't occur, but it's not exactly institutionalized as you claim.
 
2013-01-13 10:09:32 PM

Somacandra: Mija: Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women

[i.imgur.com image 496x287]

Its the progressives that actually do things the are proven to reduce abortion rates. Wake me up when "pro-lifers" have done anything comparable.


Social conservatives maintain that abstinence from sex before marriage is:

100% effective against unwanted pregnancy
100% effective against STDs
has been shown to be extremely effective in drastically cutting the abortion rate

No other method is more effective.

Of course it takes a certain amount of discipline that many people feel is beyond their ability to maintain. Those people are free to throw dice and hope for the best.

/not that I am a social conservative, but if you are doing it right, it's hard to argue
 
2013-01-13 10:12:58 PM
American 2nd amendment discussion aside, why are people calling for more guns for women to prevent rape? Mace is legal and readily availible, won't ricochet and kill bystanders, and is pretty effective at stopping attackers.

Plus, if you are crazy and whip out some mace during a psychotic episode and spray an innocent man (I hear there may be one left somewhere), you won't have to deal with any hefty charges like manslaughter or whatever.
 
2013-01-13 10:15:50 PM
Either these guys are seriously behind in their country's news or they just did this...

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2013-01-13 10:19:20 PM

hdhale: Somacandra: Mija: Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women

[i.imgur.com image 496x287]

Its the progressives that actually do things the are proven to reduce abortion rates. Wake me up when "pro-lifers" have done anything comparable.

Social conservatives maintain that abstinence from sex before marriage is:

100% effective against unwanted pregnancy
100% effective against STDs
has been shown to be extremely effective in drastically cutting the abortion rate

No other method is more effective.

Of course it takes a certain amount of discipline that many people feel is beyond their ability to maintain. Those people are free to throw dice and hope for the best.

/not that I am a social conservative, but if you are doing it right, it's hard to argue


Just curious how often that leads to people getting married very young because they're desperate to fark, and then getting divorced a couple years later when they realized that the high school sweetheart wasn't long-term relationship material. Because that really supports the sanctity of marriage, eh?
 
2013-01-13 10:24:30 PM

MagicPlasticTreeFrog: American 2nd amendment discussion aside, why are people calling for more guns for women to prevent rape? Mace is legal and readily availible, won't ricochet and kill bystanders, and is pretty effective at stopping attackers.

Plus, if you are crazy and whip out some mace during a psychotic episode and spray an innocent man (I hear there may be one left somewhere), you won't have to deal with any hefty charges like manslaughter or whatever.


Just for fun. Imagine you and 6 of your friends with one woman and you want to rape her. How is mace gonna stop you unless you're mentally challenged. Even with a gun, she's not going to get all of you. Just a thought...

At least some would be dead..
 
2013-01-13 10:24:42 PM
Lots of assholes in this thread....almost as though they're posting from a bus in India.

And to the gun nuts posting in here--interesting how the end of the political spectrum you speak from is also known for such terms of endearment as "legitimate rape."

Seriously, DIAF.
 
2013-01-13 10:25:37 PM

Dimensio: spin359: Too bad she didn't have her protection.

[www.gunholstersunlimited.com image 400x600]

I have been informed that murder is not an appropriate response to rape nor to attempted rape.


Well it is different there but in any state "Danger of grave bodily harm" is legal to draw a weapon and if necessary use it. If she had started with some mace and that didn't work one shot would have probably helped her cause. The lady from two weeks ago is dead, and this woman probably could believe that she would go down the same path.
 
2013-01-13 10:33:14 PM

PsiChick: quickdraw: RISE UP

[cdn.thedailybeast.com image 387x302]

Something tells me this group is about to get a whole lot bigger.

I seriously,  seriously farking love that group  so damn much. That is like the answer to every single time I've asked "why is no one fighting back?". And it is  beautiful.


We can donate here
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-13 10:36:01 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-13 10:38:25 PM

aninconvenienterection: hdhale: aninconvenienterection: if only other passengers on the bus had the right to carry concealed firearms and have a chance to thwart this brutal attack.

/is serious

I read an article recently where requests for permission to buy a handgun are up significantly in India. Unfortunately they are rarely approved, and the cops more or less blamed the increase in applications on hysteria and said it would soon pass. In other words, the possibility (make that certainty since another has happened) that more women would get ganged raped was an acceptable price to pay to keep a few extra guns out of civilian hands.

/interesting what passes for logic there...or some American cities actually

the good news is, this too shall pass....

/ack


Until the next time...and given the attitudes being demonstrated...this wasn't first time and won't be the last either.

/ack indeed
 
2013-01-13 10:41:00 PM
Yzziefrog: Stop telling women how not to get raped, and start teaching boys not to rape.
 
2013-01-13 10:42:25 PM

KawaiiNot: Somacandra:  
Mass free distribution of anti-rape condoms. Its the only way to be sure

That's a real thing?


Yes.
 
2013-01-13 10:43:10 PM

ktybear: Yzziefrog: Stop telling women how not to get raped, and start teaching boys not to rape.


Aaaaaaaand this.
 
2013-01-13 10:44:43 PM
Perhaps if these fellows washed their ass every once in a while, women would have sex with them willingly.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/12/30/world/asia/india-refer / india-refer-articleLarge-v2.jpg
 
2013-01-13 10:45:00 PM
The trials and tribulations of living in Hadji Ladji land. I cases like this, the more attention the outside world gives these incidents the more prevalent they become.
 
2013-01-13 10:45:48 PM
Perhaps if these fellows washed their ass every once in a while, women would have sex with them willingly.
graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2013-01-13 10:46:25 PM
Look....poor people need hobbies too you know.
 
2013-01-13 10:51:26 PM
...or maybe they are too shy.
www.infinitydish.com
 
2013-01-13 10:56:42 PM

PunGent: hdhale: Somacandra: [arkitipintel.com image 400x266] [i.imgur.com image 200x300]
Mass free distribution of anti-rape condoms. Its the only way to be sure

Yeah, shredding the first guy's penis isn't going to make his buddies want to beat you to death at all.

Gives new meaning to sloppy seconds, though...


It also doesn't necessarily stop them from farking you in the ass either. Or just making their own holes to stick things into. Seriously, these ass-wipes are like the dicks in the crossed comics.
 
2013-01-13 10:57:05 PM

Mija: miss diminutive: So a culture that still practices infanticide for girls (at least in rural areas) has a less than progressive view towards women? Colour me surprised.

About half of aborted children are female. Funny how people overlook that mass murder while claiming to be progressive towards women.


40% of sick days are taken on Monday or Friday!!!
 
2013-01-13 10:58:29 PM
graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2013-01-13 10:59:42 PM

thisiszombocom: [p.bfram.es image 420x532]


Martial arts.
1/5 walk away.

Teach it.
Preach it.

Screw football, and soccer.
Teach life/survival skills.

Then I'll gladly pay my "school" taxes.
/no kids.
 
2013-01-13 11:03:12 PM

quickdraw: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 600x330]


Needs more torches and pitchforks.
 
2013-01-13 11:04:36 PM
Where's Phoolan Devi when you need her?
www.countercurrents.org

Or any of the Hindu goddesses: Durga? Kali?
 
2013-01-13 11:05:21 PM

ktybear: Yzziefrog: Stop telling women how not to get raped, and start teaching boys not to rape.


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2013-01-13 11:06:29 PM

Vangor: Bucky Katt: At least the police took the report this time. Small consolation, though. Damn.

This and the immediate willingness of the woman to come forward were essential to the quick apprehension and bringing proper consequences to this type of horrific crime in the future.


This is probably the most sensible comment about a) why this kind of thing happens in India and b) what needs to change before it stops happening.

Rape, more than anything, is a crime that can only happen if the victim cannot or will not testify against her attacker. If she is unable to do so because her society or culture tends to disregard females, then rape can pretty much continue unchecked. India, until very very recently, has been such a country and culture. Only in the last few years have women been able to reliably bring sexual assault charges against men and reliably have police take reports and then take action against the rapists.

Giving women guns, in such a culture, would only result in women being charged with murder and probably convicted as well. Standing up for your rights is futile if you have no rights to stand up for.
 
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