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2013-01-13 10:47:08 PM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: i thought it was only the american catholic church that went after boys?


Where on earth did you get that silly idea? The Catholic Church has been scarring children world-wide for quite some time now. Link
 
2013-01-13 10:48:26 PM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: Alone in the Snark: Right now, marriage in France is restricted to heterosexual couples. However there is also a civil union (PACS) which is open to all couples, including same-sex couples, but with fewer rights (esp. regarding children).

The newly elected government wants to introduce same-sex marriage, and apparently some people have a problem with this.

How many people? Well, enough to put 300,000 to 800,000 people on the streets of Paris this afternoon.

Most of it seems to be driven by an ickiness about same-sex parenthood rather than the marriage itself. But yeah, the remnants of the Catholic electorate were also out in force.


god forbid a majority vote wins. thats the devil


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Word.
 
2013-01-13 10:49:54 PM

crazyeddie: If you call yourself a catholic, I openly think less of you.


For all the maniacal hysteria that goes along with "save the children" I don't understand how people who aren't catholic but are religious don't give Catholics more animosity for the child rape stuff.
 
2013-01-13 10:53:23 PM
Who will protect France from the Catholic Church?
 
2013-01-13 10:55:16 PM

skinink: I guess I assumed wrong when I thought that France was sexually liberal compared to the U.S.


Oh, France has had the equivalent of a civil union, known as PACS, short for  pacte civil de solidarité, since November 1999, so they're even ahead of Vermont (December 1999). In addition, the country has had a strict separation of Church and State since 1905. That being said, there's still opposition, because the Catholic Church is still the majority religion, and Islam isn't exactly friendly towards gay marriage either.
 
2013-01-13 10:56:34 PM

Mock26: I agree with the Catholic Church on this one. Look at Sweden, for example. They legalized same-sex marriage and now the country is in shambles. Major cities like Stockholm and Malmö are nothing but piles of smoking ruins. Roving bands of gay vikings terrorized the countryside, descending on villages and raping the men folk. Famine and pestilence are rampant. The same is also true (except for the vikings, of course) of those states in America that have legalized it. They lie in ruins. Torn apart by the evil, horrid, homosexual monsters! In Maine women have ceased to give birth to straight babies anymore. They are all being born gay! And the worst part about all of this is that the homosexual jewish-controlled media is covering it all up! We must stand up to the homosexuals and tell them, "No way to gay!" If not, the world will fall into total ruin and every single straight man alive will be gay-raped, repeatedly, by Satan's monsters.

Lesbianism, however, is still OK.


They'll be coming for your children.

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2013-01-13 10:56:34 PM

L.D. Ablo: I'm still not sure why anyone would want to get married, gay or straight.


masochism
 
2013-01-13 10:57:38 PM
I'm surprised they could find a priest willing to take the little boy out of his mouth long enough to make a statement.
 
2013-01-13 11:00:06 PM
Subby?
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2013-01-13 11:00:19 PM
If anyone should know how a child should be reared it's the Catholic Church.
 
2013-01-13 11:00:39 PM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: Alone in the Snark: Right now, marriage in France is restricted to heterosexual couples. However there is also a civil union (PACS) which is open to all couples, including same-sex couples, but with fewer rights (esp. regarding children).

The newly elected government wants to introduce same-sex marriage, and apparently some people have a problem with this.

How many people? Well, enough to put 300,000 to 800,000 people on the streets of Paris this afternoon.

Most of it seems to be driven by an ickiness about same-sex parenthood rather than the marriage itself. But yeah, the remnants of the Catholic electorate were also out in force.


god forbid a majority vote wins. thats the devil


1. The majority is in favor of legalizing gay marriage.

2. Even if they weren't, civil rights shouldn't be left to popular whim.
 
2013-01-13 11:04:49 PM

JesusJuice: I'm surprised they could find a priest willing to take the little boy out of his mouth long enough to make a statement.


You got it backwards. Remember the old saying? "Why does the Catholic Church oppose condoms? Because they keep getting stuck in the altar boys' braces."
 
2013-01-13 11:06:03 PM

JesusJuice: I'm surprised they could find a priest willing to take the little boy out of his mouth long enough to make a statement.


Hey hey hey!

Girls were molested too.
 
2013-01-13 11:06:25 PM

Alone in the Snark: Right now, marriage in France is restricted to heterosexual couples. However there is also a civil union (PACS) which is open to all couples, including same-sex couples, but with fewer rights (esp. regarding children).

The newly elected government wants to introduce same-sex marriage, and apparently some people have a problem with this.

How many people? Well, enough to put 300,000 to 800,000 people on the streets of Paris this afternoon.

Most of it seems to be driven by an ickiness about same-sex parenthood rather than the marriage itself. But yeah, the remnants of the Catholic electorate were also out in force.


That's a lot of bigots assembled together in one place. Do you think that if you kicked one hard enough you could get the whole lot of them to fall over like dominoes?
 
2013-01-13 11:07:49 PM

ModernLuddite: Canada has had gay marriage for 7 years now. We're still doing alright.


Not really. http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/graham1.html
 
2013-01-13 11:08:42 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: crazyeddie: If you call yourself a catholic, I openly think less of you.

For all the maniacal hysteria that goes along with "save the children" I don't understand how people who aren't catholic but are religious don't give Catholics more animosity for the child rape stuff.


Because it happens just as often in other religious belief systems. The entire pederast scandal was nothing new or unique to Catholicism.

The only difference being, most of those other ones don't have a two thousand year old multinational corporation to hide the offenders by moving them around the world away from authorities. Thats why such organizations rely so heavily on separating people from their societies outside of the organization. It creates a greater sense of shame to expose and remove the offenders than it does to allow someone to go to authorities. To allow an offender to be removed for such offenses removes the illusory infallibility of their little community, no matter how artificially it is created and maintained.

The Calvinists, Jews, Hindus and the Moslems all have the exact same issues with freaks in their ranks. It isn't necessarily the nature of power to corrupt, it is that power attracts the corruptible and the ones who seek out immunity from being held responsible for corruption.
 
2013-01-13 11:10:40 PM
If there's any excuse I'd like to see shot and buried, it's the "for the children" excuse. We restrict drugs "to protect the children" oppose gay marriage "for the children" but also abortion "for the children" and any time someone wants to limit anything it's always "but think of the children."

You're not thinking about the children. If you are, then tell me in 25 words or less why they're so threatened by whatever it is you're opposing in the first place.
 
2013-01-13 11:12:11 PM
You know, I was going to make some crack about how homosexual men are not pedophiles so the Catholic church doesn't need to be concerned about them being "competition" for young boys... But I just can't find a way to word it that doesn't sound insulting toward gay men.
 
2013-01-13 11:12:51 PM

L.D. Ablo: I'm still not sure why anyone would want to get married, gay or straight.


Just because you suck and can't find anyone to spend the rest of your life with doesn't mean that other people can't.
 
2013-01-13 11:14:07 PM

another cultural observer: Muslims and Hindus, too? Or is this one of those Deep South "Baptists are the only way to Christ, Catholics wear dresses" kind of hatreds?


I never understood this dim-witted rebuttal. Yes, Muslims and Hindus as well, but I'm not surrounded by people trying to pass Hindu impositions on my rights. Dumbass.

I judge each of your ideas on its merits. If you defend your socio-economic-political position with reasons and evidence, then I will evaluate those reasons and that evidence. If you believe that Muhammed flew up to heaven on a magic horse, you are stupid. If you believe in magical beasts who govern arbitrary realms of the physical world, you are willfully ignorant. This is not subtle.

Your religious beliefs can withstand exactly 0 (zero) scrutiny. That makes you a fool. Deal with it, and stomp whimpering behind the "b-b-b-but why u no pick on them too?!" defense.
 
2013-01-13 11:14:58 PM

Infernalist: If the Roman Catholic Church continues to pretend like it's 1950,1550 they can continue their slow painful decline into increasing irrelevancy.

Here's a tip: Focus on doing good stuff and less on political nonsense, chief. It's better for the soul and people notice.


Fixed that for ya.
 
2013-01-13 11:16:42 PM

Wayne 985: Prejudice is bad enough, but I hate when people aren't honest about it and resort to Newspeak. "I'm not discriminating against gays, I'm just protecting traditional families."; "I'm not Islamophobic, I just don't want a mosque in our town."; etc.

At least a guy like Fred Phelps will tell you who he hates upfront.


Yes, and what really gets me is when they take it one step farther and claim to be defending the very thing they're fighting AGAINST. In this case, with the slogan "Paternity, maternity, equality." Because now apparently "equality" is what you should claim to be defending when you're trying to deny other people civil rights.

If there really is a Hell with multiple circles as outlined in Dante's Inferno, I'm reasonably certain they've aleady been assigned to the eighth circle.
 
2013-01-13 11:17:31 PM
You kind of have to respect anyone that can suck a cuck cause I sure as hell couldn't. I mean how do you prepare yourself for something like that. Everyone of them has to take something out of you.


-Louis C.K.
 
2013-01-13 11:18:40 PM

Gyrfalcon: If there's any excuse I'd like to see shot and buried, it's the "for the children" excuse. We restrict drugs "to protect the children" oppose gay marriage "for the children" but also abortion "for the children" and any time someone wants to limit anything it's always "but think of the children."



I think you're right. I've noticed, over the past year or so, that any engine on Thomas & Friends who tries to do something "for the children" usually ends up causing some huge farkup and (presumable) significant financial loss for the railroad.
 
2013-01-13 11:21:53 PM
Alone in the Snark: Right now, marriage in France is restricted to heterosexual couples. However there is also a civil union (PACS) which is open to all couples, including same-sex couples, but with fewer rights (esp. regarding children).

The newly elected government wants to introduce same-sex marriage, and apparently some people have a problem with this.

How many people? Well, enough to put 300,000 to 800,000 people on the streets of Paris this afternoon.

Most of it seems to be driven by an ickiness about same-sex parenthood rather than the marriage itself. But yeah, the remnants of the Catholic electorate were also out in force.


What_Would_Jimi_Do: god forbid a majority vote wins. thats the devil



Go read up on the concept of the "tyranny of the majority" concept and then get back to us.
 
2013-01-13 11:23:14 PM
Only 40%? They're doing better than America.
 
2013-01-13 11:23:34 PM

ciberido: If there really is a Hell with multiple circles as outlined in Dante's Inferno, I'm reasonably certain they've aleady been assigned to the eighth circle.


Tenth Circle, Realm of Total Bastards.
 
2013-01-13 11:24:21 PM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: god forbid a majority vote wins. thats the devil


James Madison certainly thought so.
 
2013-01-13 11:25:17 PM

crazyeddie: another cultural observer: Muslims and Hindus, too? Or is this one of those Deep South "Baptists are the only way to Christ, Catholics wear dresses" kind of hatreds?

I never understood this dim-witted rebuttal. Yes, Muslims and Hindus as well, but I'm not surrounded by people trying to pass Hindu impositions on my rights. Dumbass.

I judge each of your ideas on its merits. If you defend your socio-economic-political position with reasons and evidence, then I will evaluate those reasons and that evidence. If you believe that Muhammed flew up to heaven on a magic horse, you are stupid. If you believe in magical beasts who govern arbitrary realms of the physical world, you are willfully ignorant. This is not subtle.

Your religious beliefs can withstand exactly 0 (zero) scrutiny. That makes you a fool. Deal with it, and stomp whimpering behind the "b-b-b-but why u no pick on them too?!" defense.


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But by all means, don't let the fact that I never disagreed with you get in the way of you being a Reactionary.
 
2013-01-13 11:26:16 PM
another cultural observer: Muslims and Hindus, too? Or is this one of those Deep South "Baptists are the only way to Christ, Catholics wear dresses" kind of hatreds?

crazyeddie: I never understood this dim-witted rebuttal.


I'm sure that there are a lot of rebuttals you never understood, so I'll try to help out. The general idea is that a lot of people who say what you say are hypocritical.  I suspect another cultural observer was trying to figure out how much of a hypocrite you might be.
 
2013-01-13 11:26:37 PM

BigNumber12: Gyrfalcon: If there's any excuse I'd like to see shot and buried, it's the "for the children" excuse. We restrict drugs "to protect the children" oppose gay marriage "for the children" but also abortion "for the children" and any time someone wants to limit anything it's always "but think of the children."


I think you're right. I've noticed, over the past year or so, that any engine on Thomas & Friends who tries to do something "for the children" usually ends up causing some huge farkup and (presumable) significant financial loss for the railroad.


I take it you have several children under the age of four. My condolences.
 
2013-01-13 11:33:29 PM

Gyrfalcon: BigNumber12: Gyrfalcon: If there's any excuse I'd like to see shot and buried, it's the "for the children" excuse. We restrict drugs "to protect the children" oppose gay marriage "for the children" but also abortion "for the children" and any time someone wants to limit anything it's always "but think of the children."


I think you're right. I've noticed, over the past year or so, that any engine on Thomas & Friends who tries to do something "for the children" usually ends up causing some huge farkup and (presumable) significant financial loss for the railroad.

I take it you have several children under the age of four. My condolences.



No, just a huge fan of the convoluted plots and sophisticated dialogue. Also, I looooooove imperialism.
 
2013-01-13 11:35:25 PM
well lesbians have a divorce rate that is 150% higher than average
 
2013-01-13 11:38:08 PM

ciberido: another cultural observer: Muslims and Hindus, too? Or is this one of those Deep South "Baptists are the only way to Christ, Catholics wear dresses" kind of hatreds?

crazyeddie: I never understood this dim-witted rebuttal.

I'm sure that there are a lot of rebuttals you never understood, so I'll try to help out. The general idea is that a lot of people who say what you say are hypocritical.  I suspect another cultural observer was trying to figure out how much of a hypocrite you might be.


Thanks, Ciberido, but crazyeddie's right. The fact that I did not offer a wholehearted and unquestioning endorsement of his point apparently means that I disagree entirely, and am Catholic. This is a curious development, as I could have sworn I wasn't Catholic.

By Shiva, I learn something new every day.
 
2013-01-13 11:39:23 PM

another cultural observer: But by all means, don't let the fact that I never disagreed with you get in the way of you being a Reactionary.


Huh? It went down like this.

crazyeddie: Religious Beliefs are Bad.

another cultural observer: B-b-b-but what about Muslins and Pakis? I'm only asking because I'm concerned. So concerned.

crazyeddie: This is a stupid rebuttal to my claim. Yes, all religions.

another cultural observer: I have posted a meme picture because I never really disagreed with you. I was just concerned. So concerned.


If you, too, believe that religions (including Christianity) are crutches for weak and sad people, then posting a snarky concern question makes you a coward. Speak your mind about bad ideas, because if you don't, no one else will.

As it stands, you aren't helping. Also, try reading a person's user profile before posting.
 
2013-01-13 11:40:26 PM
Go catholic church! Good to see someone standing up for morality.
 
2013-01-13 11:42:44 PM

GF named my left testicle thundercles: well lesbians have a divorce rate that is 150% higher than average


If gay marriage isn't allowed, than any divorce is dividing by zero which creates an infinite divorce rate.  Thus, we should allow gays to marry in order to get the divorce rate down.
 
2013-01-13 11:45:13 PM

fusillade762: Same-sex marriage is recognized in 11 countries including Belgium, Portugal, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Norway and South Africa.

I love that the US is behind farking South Africa on this issue.


Last time I checked you can get homo-married in the USA.
 
2013-01-13 11:45:21 PM
Or, you could just ignore the gay / sex / marriage thing, just as you did all your priests buggering little boys, and when you found out, instead of fessing up, you just paid the victims off quietly and moved the priest to another area of the globe to rape more children. I guess it's ok to cover your own ass, but point to others and say they are wrong for their lifestyles. Apparently, child buggery is ok with the church, as long as nobody finds out or blows the whistle, but god..let's totally vilify a social class for it's legal acts of personal choice and law abiding love.

/you people are hypocritical money grubbing assholes, you have an unreal sense of self importance, and it's not only the sanctimonious derp you spew at the bowing and fawning "IMOTEP" chanters that you seem to hold sway over that makes me hate you, it's that you feel that you're SO right, you can judge everyone else with your draconian rules, while ignoring basic human rights yourself. Go suck a big dick pole, suck it long, suck it deep.
 
2013-01-13 11:47:31 PM

Infernalist: MugzyBrown: I don't care about gay marriage but I never understand how the divorce rate somehow legitimizes it

The spiel says that Gay Marriage 'demeans' the sanctity of marriage.

Pointing out the high divorce rate is the most effective way of pointing out that marriage hasn't been sacred in a long time.


Yeah, might as well demean it even more then, right? Nice logic.
 
2013-01-13 11:47:34 PM

gingerjet: fusillade762: Same-sex marriage is recognized in 11 countries including Belgium, Portugal, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Norway and South Africa.

I love that the US is behind farking South Africa on this issue.

Its easier making a change in a relatively small country of 10million population than a large country of 300+ million.  Especially with our structure of government.


if by 10 million you mean 52 million and by relatively small you mean 25th largest in the world, then you are correct.
 
2013-01-13 11:50:13 PM

ciberido:
I'm sure that there are a lot of rebuttals you never understood, so I'll try to help out. he's trying to figure out how much of a hypocrite you are.


I don't need help from the king (or should I say queen?) of all hypocrites: The Gay Christian. You are doing it wrong, pal. You either believe in the divinity of the man who was the son of himself, who hates the gays like you, or you don't. Yahweh was pretty clear on this.

For a someone who self-loathes as much as you do, I would think you'd be right at home in the catholic church.

For now, maybe you should sit the next few plays about 'hypocrites' out.
 
2013-01-13 11:51:33 PM

Mentat: GF named my left testicle thundercles: well lesbians have a divorce rate that is 150% higher than average

If gay marriage isn't allowed, than any divorce is dividing by zero which creates an infinite divorce rate.  Thus, we should allow gays to marry in order to get the divorce rate down.


cute, but countries and states that do allow same sex marriage have discovered a 150% higher divorce rate for lesbians. IIRC its above 80% at the ten year mark. gays are pretty normal with only a 50% higher than normal divorce rate (similar to being working class & men are better parents anyway) so id have no problem with them having kids.
 
2013-01-13 11:54:39 PM

Deathfrogg: Mock26: I agree with the Catholic Church on this one. Look at Sweden, for example. They legalized same-sex marriage and now the country is in shambles. Major cities like Stockholm and Malmö are nothing but piles of smoking ruins. Roving bands of gay vikings terrorized the countryside, descending on villages and raping the men folk. Famine and pestilence are rampant. The same is also true (except for the vikings, of course) of those states in America that have legalized it. They lie in ruins. Torn apart by the evil, horrid, homosexual monsters! In Maine women have ceased to give birth to straight babies anymore. They are all being born gay! And the worst part about all of this is that the homosexual jewish-controlled media is covering it all up! We must stand up to the homosexuals and tell them, "No way to gay!" If not, the world will fall into total ruin and every single straight man alive will be gay-raped, repeatedly, by Satan's monsters.

Lesbianism, however, is still OK.

They'll be coming for your children.

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Fixed the image for you.
 
2013-01-13 11:56:07 PM

crazyeddie: Also, try reading a person's user profile before posting.


.....says the crazy person!

:-D
 
2013-01-14 12:00:36 AM

Kommissar: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/graham1.html


Jesus, I didn't know Canada had Libertarians.

//Freedom != the freedom to be a dick to large segments of the population.
///If that's what you cherish above all else, you are fundamentally flawed as a human being.
 
2013-01-14 12:01:53 AM

quickdraw: "For the children?"

Really Catholic Church? I wouldnt be bringing up the subject of kids at all if I were you.


Catholic Church: Do as we say, not as we diddle.
 
2013-01-14 12:04:29 AM

GF named my left testicle thundercles: Mentat: GF named my left testicle thundercles: well lesbians have a divorce rate that is 150% higher than average

If gay marriage isn't allowed, than any divorce is dividing by zero which creates an infinite divorce rate.  Thus, we should allow gays to marry in order to get the divorce rate down.

cute, but countries and states that do allow same sex marriage have discovered a 150% higher divorce rate for lesbians. IIRC its above 80% at the ten year mark. gays are pretty normal with only a 50% higher than normal divorce rate (similar to being working class & men are better parents anyway) so id have no problem with them having kids.


Interesting. From what I understand women are the initiators of most divorces. Put two women together and that 150% rate doesnt suprise me. For two men, well, hmm.
 
2013-01-14 12:04:56 AM

Mock26:
They'll be coming for your children.

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Fixed the image for you.


Thank you Mock. I have no skilz.
 
2013-01-14 12:06:30 AM

crazyeddie: another cultural observer: But by all means, don't let the fact that I never disagreed with you get in the way of you being a Reactionary.

Huh? It went down like this.
crazyeddie: Religious Beliefs are Bad.
another cultural observer: B-b-b-but what about Muslins and Pakis? I'm only asking because I'm concerned. So concerned.
crazyeddie: This is a stupid rebuttal to my claim. Yes, all religions.
another cultural observer: I have posted a meme picture because I never really disagreed with you. I was just concerned. So concerned.

If you, too, believe that religions (including Christianity) are crutches for weak and sad people, then posting a snarky concern question makes you a coward. Speak your mind about bad ideas, because if you don't, no one else will.

As it stands, you aren't helping. Also, try reading a person's user profile before posting.


You're a twat.
 
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