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(NBC News)   Catholic church in France: Gay marriage must be stopped "to protect the children", had no comment on how they plan on protecting French children from a 40% divorce rate   (worldnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 167
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2013-01-13 05:14:42 PM
Perhaps France can set a new precedent then, and realign that 75% tax to fall directly onto the gilded altars that the Bishops use every Sunday.
 
2013-01-13 06:15:27 PM
Who's going to protect the children from the Catholic Church?
 
2013-01-13 08:21:19 PM
"For the children?"

Really Catholic Church? I wouldnt be bringing up the subject of kids at all if I were you.
 
2013-01-13 08:26:27 PM
Same-sex marriage is recognized in 11 countries including Belgium, Portugal, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Norway and South Africa.

I love that the US is behind farking South Africa on this issue.
 
2013-01-13 08:59:56 PM
I'm still not sure why anyone would want to get married, gay or straight.
 
2013-01-13 09:06:40 PM

L.D. Ablo: I'm still not sure why anyone would want to get married, gay or straight.


Its a lot of fun when its the right person.
 
2013-01-13 10:01:38 PM
I don't care about gay marriage but I never understand how the divorce rate somehow legitimizes it
 
2013-01-13 10:02:14 PM
If the Roman Catholic Church continues to pretend like it's 1950, they can continue their slow painful decline into increasing irrelevancy.

Here's a tip: Focus on doing good stuff and less on political nonsense, chief. It's better for the soul and people notice.
 
2013-01-13 10:02:44 PM
It's always amusing when the Catholic Church expresses concern for the welfare of children.
 
2013-01-13 10:02:52 PM
Time to bring back the Cult of Reason.
 
2013-01-13 10:03:20 PM
FFS, the Vatican  has its own scientific branches that do legitimate research, how the  f**k can they not pick up a damn statistics report every so often?
 
2013-01-13 10:03:32 PM

MugzyBrown: I don't care about gay marriage but I never understand how the divorce rate somehow legitimizes it


The spiel says that Gay Marriage 'demeans' the sanctity of marriage.

Pointing out the high divorce rate is the most effective way of pointing out that marriage hasn't been sacred in a long time.
 
2013-01-13 10:03:35 PM

fusillade762: Same-sex marriage is recognized in 11 countries including Belgium, Portugal, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Norway and South Africa.

I love that the US is behind farking South Africa on this issue.


Its easier making a change in a relatively small country of 10million population than a large country of 300+ million.  Especially with our structure of government.
 
2013-01-13 10:03:50 PM

fusillade762: Same-sex marriage is recognized in 11 countries including Belgium, Portugal, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Norway and South Africa.

I love that the US is behind farking South Africa on this issue.


Between this and decriminalization of drug possession, the old country surprises me yet.
 
2013-01-13 10:03:57 PM
I get it, France.

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Never again.
 
2013-01-13 10:04:14 PM
I guess I assumed wrong when I thought that France was sexually liberal compared to the U.S.
 
2013-01-13 10:06:36 PM

kmmontandon: Who's going to protect the children from the Catholic Church?


Republican Congressmen?
 
2013-01-13 10:08:14 PM
Done in two.
 
2013-01-13 10:10:53 PM
Haven't we been trying to get the Catholic church to stop thinking about the children?
 
2013-01-13 10:10:59 PM
Desperate times call for desperate measures. News at 10.
 
2013-01-13 10:11:30 PM

kmmontandon: Who's going to protect the children from the Catholic Church?


We need to find a fine, upstanding woman of good moral character that's been proven in her willingness to fight for the sanctity of marriage.  And of course she must be a Christian, the more fundamentalist, the better.

How about Lisa Biron?
 
2013-01-13 10:15:42 PM
 
2013-01-13 10:15:44 PM
Wtf? Really, this is a source of outrage?
 
2013-01-13 10:16:08 PM
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2013-01-13 10:17:27 PM

KidneyStone: Wtf? Really, this is a source of outrage?


Ok, I read TFA
Really? This is a source of outrage? A bunch of people express their religious beliefs and it's time for outrage?

It's f*cking Catholics. Who takes them seriously?
 
2013-01-13 10:17:56 PM
Prejudice is bad enough, but I hate when people aren't honest about it and resort to Newspeak. "I'm not discriminating against gays, I'm just protecting traditional families."; "I'm not Islamophobic, I just don't want a mosque in our town."; etc.

At least a guy like Fred Phelps will tell you who he hates upfront.
 
2013-01-13 10:19:27 PM
POOP THREAD!
 
2013-01-13 10:19:49 PM

kmmontandon: Who's going to protect the children from the Catholic Church?


Aaaand we're pretty much done here.
 
2013-01-13 10:20:09 PM
Aaaaaaaah The French
 
2013-01-13 10:21:48 PM
Canada has had gay marriage for 7 years now. We're still doing alright.

My city went from having 2 bath houses to 1 in that time.

Correlation does not equal causation, I know, but it really makes that one anti-gay guy look silly.
 
2013-01-13 10:23:29 PM
Yes, because listening to rampant religious lunatics has always worked out great in the past.
 
2013-01-13 10:23:56 PM

KidneyStone: KidneyStone: Wtf? Really, this is a source of outrage?

Ok, I read TFA
Really? This is a source of outrage? A bunch of people express their religious beliefs and it's time for outrage?

It's f*cking Catholics. Who takes them seriously?


The article claims support for gay rights has been dropping because of these protests. When you let bigots go unchallenged, they gain ground.
 
2013-01-13 10:25:25 PM
Clearly gays getting married affects children.
 
2013-01-13 10:25:37 PM
Honestly, you think that the Catholics would be licking their chops over this, since troubled kids would be coming to them for help. Sounds like a great way to rape a bunch of fresh meat.

Also, since homosexual rape seems to be quite the fun activity for Catholics, it's kind of hypocritical to complain when people want to do homosexual things consensually.
 
2013-01-13 10:26:47 PM
If you call yourself a catholic, I openly think less of you. It's not bigotry when I judge you on the choices you make, and you choose to align yourself with horrible people with horrible beliefs. If you are a catholic, you suck.

Let me be clear. I support your right to believe whatever you want, but you need to understand that the only appropriate response to your beliefs is ridicule and derision. Fark off. Read a book.
 
2013-01-13 10:27:41 PM

kmmontandon: Who's going to protect the children from the Catholic Church?


Chevalier, Montage, Detente, Avant Garde, and Deja Vu.
Over there, Croissant, Souffle, Escargot, and Chocolate Mousse.

C'mon France. The term "Menage a trois" is world famous because of you, and you don't even have to speak French to know that one of you is going to do something gay.
 
2013-01-13 10:31:28 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Perhaps France can set a new precedent then, and realign that 75% tax to fall directly onto the gilded altars that the Bishops use every Sunday.


Would that be the gilded altars that were built before the existence of the current republic, or the ones built before France was a republic? When you never sell anything, or get it confiscated, you tend to accumulate a lot of goodies. Of course getting 10% of all the practicing Catholics' incomes in France doesn't hurt either, even if that guy in the Vatican is taking a cut.

I have held for some time now, at least here in the US, that legal unions of people are a civil matter and that they are separate from the sacred rite of marriage as defined by the Church, whether the Church is Catholic or of one of the many Protestant sects. It is entirely possible for someone to get married in holy matrimony within the Church and not have it recognized by the state simply because the proper paperwork wasn't turned in/signed off on. Conversely, a ship's captain can perform marriages in many locations--and having known a few, they were hardly holy men. A judge can pronounce people to be wed without having even gone to any church, temple, or mosque.

The bottom line is that if Bob and Fred want to get married in front of a judge and get it legally recognized as such, that should not be taken as offensive by church going types, any more than if an atheist puts up a Christmas tree. Believers are the only ones who can get married in the Church (or Synagog, etc.) and have it counted as a sacred rite in the eyes of God. No one is trying to mock you, honest.
 
2013-01-13 10:32:18 PM

skinink: I guess I assumed wrong when I thought that France was sexually liberal compared to the U.S.


Actually the US is one of the more liberal countries in terms of LGBT marriages..

S
 
2013-01-13 10:32:26 PM

gingerjet: fusillade762: Same-sex marriage is recognized in 11 countries including Belgium, Portugal, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Norway and South Africa.

I love that the US is behind farking South Africa on this issue.

Its easier making a change in a relatively small country of 10million population than a large country of 300+ million.  Especially with our structure of government.


I hope it's consensual.
 
2013-01-13 10:35:49 PM

skinink: I guess I assumed wrong when I thought that France was sexually liberal compared to the U.S.


France is, The Catholic Church not so much.
 
2013-01-13 10:37:44 PM
I agree with the Catholic Church on this one. Look at Sweden, for example. They legalized same-sex marriage and now the country is in shambles. Major cities like Stockholm and Malmö are nothing but piles of smoking ruins. Roving bands of gay vikings terrorized the countryside, descending on villages and raping the men folk. Famine and pestilence are rampant. The same is also true (except for the vikings, of course) of those states in America that have legalized it. They lie in ruins. Torn apart by the evil, horrid, homosexual monsters! In Maine women have ceased to give birth to straight babies anymore. They are all being born gay! And the worst part about all of this is that the homosexual jewish-controlled media is covering it all up! We must stand up to the homosexuals and tell them, "No way to gay!" If not, the world will fall into total ruin and every single straight man alive will be gay-raped, repeatedly, by Satan's monsters.

Lesbianism, however, is still OK.
 
2013-01-13 10:38:39 PM
This is what happens when you take God out of the church.
 
2013-01-13 10:39:16 PM

another cultural observer: gingerjet: fusillade762: Same-sex marriage is recognized in 11 countries including Belgium, Portugal, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Norway and South Africa.

I love that the US is behind farking South Africa on this issue.

Its easier making a change in a relatively small country of 10million population than a large country of 300+ million.  Especially with our structure of government.

I hope it's consensual.


The US is farking a lot of countries from behind. But they're not planning on marrying them, so its OK.
 
2013-01-13 10:42:27 PM
Protecting the children so the priests can rape and molest them.
 
2013-01-13 10:42:31 PM
i thought it was only the american catholic church that went after boys?

Mock26: gay vikings


that is an oxymoron, right?
 
2013-01-13 10:43:43 PM
Right now, marriage in France is restricted to heterosexual couples. However there is also a civil union (PACS) which is open to all couples, including same-sex couples, but with fewer rights (esp. regarding children).

The newly elected government wants to introduce same-sex marriage, and apparently some people have a problem with this.

How many people? Well, enough to put 300,000 to 800,000 people on the streets of Paris this afternoon.

Most of it seems to be driven by an ickiness about same-sex parenthood rather than the marriage itself. But yeah, the remnants of the Catholic electorate were also out in force.
 
2013-01-13 10:44:15 PM

Mock26: I agree with the Catholic Church on this one. Look at Sweden, for example. They legalized same-sex marriage and now the country is in shambles. Major cities like Stockholm and Malmö are nothing but piles of smoking ruins. Roving bands of gay vikings terrorized the countryside, descending on villages and raping the men folk. Famine and pestilence are rampant. The same is also true (except for the vikings, of course) of those states in America that have legalized it. They lie in ruins. Torn apart by the evil, horrid, homosexual monsters! In Maine women have ceased to give birth to straight babies anymore. They are all being born gay! And the worst part about all of this is that the homosexual jewish-controlled media is covering it all up! We must stand up to the homosexuals and tell them, "No way to gay!" If not, the world will fall into total ruin and every single straight man alive will be gay-raped, repeatedly, by Satan's monsters.

Lesbianism, however, is still OK.


What the fark, we don't get gay vikings in the US? fark that. fark it all.

Please tell me we at least roving gangs of lesbian Amazons. I need some hope here.
 
2013-01-13 10:45:48 PM

crazyeddie: If you call yourself a catholic, I openly think less of you. It's not bigotry when I judge you on the choices you make, and you choose to align yourself with horrible people with horrible beliefs. If you are a catholic, you suck.

Let me be clear. I support your right to believe whatever you want, but you need to understand that the only appropriate response to your beliefs is ridicule and derision. Fark off. Read a book.


Muslims and Hindus, too? Or is this one of those Deep South "Baptists are the only way to Christ, Catholics wear dresses" kind of hatreds?
 
2013-01-13 10:46:02 PM
And the divorce rate among pillow biters is what?
 
2013-01-13 10:46:20 PM

Alone in the Snark: Right now, marriage in France is restricted to heterosexual couples. However there is also a civil union (PACS) which is open to all couples, including same-sex couples, but with fewer rights (esp. regarding children).

The newly elected government wants to introduce same-sex marriage, and apparently some people have a problem with this.

How many people? Well, enough to put 300,000 to 800,000 people on the streets of Paris this afternoon.

Most of it seems to be driven by an ickiness about same-sex parenthood rather than the marriage itself. But yeah, the remnants of the Catholic electorate were also out in force.



god forbid a majority vote wins. thats the devil
 
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