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2013-01-13 04:50:38 PM
So a pretentious, sanctimonious lawyer has no morals? This in news how?
 
2013-01-13 05:05:57 PM
FTFA:... claim that homosexuality and pedophelia are "intrinsically linked"...

Well, it sounds like she knows something about this.
 
2013-01-13 06:28:19 PM
Bonus: incest.
 
2013-01-13 08:20:59 PM
FTA...a 14-year-old girl having sex with two men on multiple occasions.


No, the teen didn't have sex with the two men or the anti-gay lawyer. She was raped since the age of consent in NH is 16.
 
2013-01-13 08:34:24 PM
Wasn't there a greenlit story about this already or is this someone else?
 
2013-01-13 08:46:16 PM
Don't forget farking her child.
 
2013-01-13 08:51:12 PM

themindiswatching: Wasn't there a greenlit story about this already or is this someone else?


Seems to me there was, but this might be considered a follow-up since its about the conviction following the arrest.
 
2013-01-13 09:12:16 PM

propasaurus: themindiswatching: Wasn't there a greenlit story about this already or is this someone else?

Seems to me there was, but this might be considered a follow-up since its about the conviction following the arrest.


This article also gives more detail about her activity. In the first thread I said that just because she represents the group, it does not mean that she agrees with them. You know, like any other accused murderer's attorney is not a murderer.

I retract that now, having read the organizations she is/was in and just how close her relationship with the group was.
 
2013-01-13 09:15:20 PM

Bathia_Mapes: She was raped


But was it literal rape?
 
2013-01-13 09:22:21 PM

AbbeySomeone: FTFA:... claim that homosexuality and pedophelia are "intrinsically linked"...

Well, it sounds like she knows something about this.


Heh.

She also allegedly made a cellphone video of herself having sex with the girl.

Add "stupid" to the list of character defects.
 
2013-01-13 09:30:40 PM
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2013-01-13 09:38:59 PM
Well, it's pretty much what you would expect isn't it?
 
2013-01-13 09:45:57 PM

propasaurus: Bonus: incest.


I believe that's Biblical. Happened when the traditional family fled the gays.
 
2013-01-13 10:04:58 PM
 
2013-01-13 10:06:18 PM

basemetal: [ct.fra.bz image 500x391] (Arrested for child pornography)


AND PERFORMING CUNNILINGUS ON HER OWN DAUGHTER.

Cthulhu knows I'm no friend of Christianity, but I gotta say - even with CHRISTIANS, I don't expect mothers to traffic in porn movies involving their 14 year old kid.  And certainly not films of them performing oral sex on their own children.

I don't know why I'm surprised, but I am.
 
2013-01-13 10:09:52 PM

Bathia_Mapes: FTA...a 14-year-old girl having sex with two men on multiple occasions.


No, the teen didn't have sex with the two men or the anti-gay lawyer. She was raped since the age of consent in NH is 16.


Sounds legit.
 
2013-01-13 10:11:10 PM
Incest is in the bible, so its ok. Pretty sure most of the brides were like 6 too.

tradition biatches. deal.
 
2013-01-13 10:14:00 PM
She looks like the assistant from Jesus Christ: Vampire Hunter...
 
2013-01-13 10:16:01 PM
I'm having a hard time being surprised.
 
2013-01-13 10:17:02 PM
She's disgusting and will die in prison.

This story doesn't belong on the Politics tab.

There were no guns involved.
 
2013-01-13 10:17:18 PM
Poor kid. I'm betting she won't be the religious type when she grows up. Mother needs life in prison.
 
2013-01-13 10:23:10 PM
read that as "anti-gun lawyer" Which given the tab's topics of late...
 
2013-01-13 10:29:03 PM
Member of the Alliance Defending Freedom Honors Corps.

What do you expect from a group that defines freedom as curtailing the rights of others.
 
2013-01-13 10:29:52 PM
Religious people are easy to hate.
 
2013-01-13 10:33:32 PM
I guess she just thought that as long as it was straight child abuse porn, God didn't mind.
 
2013-01-13 10:33:42 PM
Raping children is a solid republican value.
 
2013-01-13 10:34:30 PM
cdn.pastemagazine.com

And all of that was okay.
 
2013-01-13 10:35:54 PM
but homosexuals are the immoral ones, right?  yeesh...
 
2013-01-13 10:39:34 PM
Anyone else noticing how rapey the world seems to be, lately?
 
2013-01-13 10:39:50 PM
Are Christians in some kind of competition I haven't heard about to see who can be the most hypocritical?
 
2013-01-13 10:41:22 PM
Maybe she can run in the next primary? All these other GOP types can't stop talking about rape---here's someone with the sand to actually do something about it.
 
2013-01-13 10:42:14 PM

baka-san: Bathia_Mapes: She was raped

But was it literal rape?


I guess we'll find out if she lets herself become pregnant.
 
2013-01-13 10:42:33 PM

James F. Campbell: Are Christians in some kind of competition I haven't heard about to see who can be the most hypocritical?


she's a lawyer. she's whatever you pay her to be.

I chalk this up more to profession than belief.
 
2013-01-13 10:42:36 PM

Bathia_Mapes: FTA...a 14-year-old girl having sex with two men on multiple occasions.


No, the teen didn't have sex with the two men or the anti-gay lawyer. She was raped since the age of consent in NH is 16.


When you can't give consent due to age, another person generally has the power to give consent...usually the parent. For example, parents can give consent for people or businesses to expose a minor to explicit material which would normally be illegal. Might not be statutory rape, since her mother was involved. Not really something I've looked into before, but seems possible to say the least.

So.

1. Child endangerment (check)
2. Contributing to the delinquency of a minor (check)
3. Child pornography (check)
4. Child prostitution
5. Incest (check)
6. Drug possesion (check)
7. Statutory rape (maybe)
8. About a million other offenses against various laws and general human decency
 
2013-01-13 10:46:39 PM

Weaver95: but homosexuals are the immoral ones, right?  yeesh...


I bet, while she does feel genuine guilt, shame and remorse for her actions, she considers herself basically good, and after a prayer or two, will on the good side of Jesus once again.

But, those gays!  Those people are hell-bound and trying to take our children with them!

Psychopathic.
 
2013-01-13 10:47:43 PM

James F. Campbell: Are Christians in some kind of competition I haven't heard about to see who can be the most hypocritical?


its weird, isn't it?  most of the christian organizations here in the US seem to either pay lip service to their beliefs or set out to deliberately twist and pervert their own ideology.  lies, hypocrisy, lust for power and control...money, sex, rampant greed.  plus the occasional drug use that seems to be sprinkled on top for flavor.  lots there to despise.  But you can't point any of this out to the rank and file.  they don't believe their leaders are corrupt.  at best, they'll abandon one leader who's been caught doing something bad and simply move down the line to the next one who's waiting to take over control of 'gods message' and keep right on truckin with the same exact message as before.
 
2013-01-13 10:49:03 PM
I literally can no longer think of Christianity without thinking of pedophilia. Xians just skeeve me out at this point. Never hear about Atheists doing this shiat.
 
2013-01-13 10:52:10 PM

DeaH: Member of the Alliance Defending Freedom Honors Corps.

What do you expect from a group that defines freedom as curtailing the rights of others.


You'd think such an awkward-sounding name would at least turn into a cool acronym.

ADFHC?
 
2013-01-13 10:53:41 PM
...she had been a member of the ADF "Honor Corps," which the group created to recognize allied attorneys who complete 450 hours of pro bono service

"for the public good", my ass. Be honest and call it "free services", wouldja??
 
2013-01-13 10:55:23 PM

Wireless Joe: I guess she just thought that as long as it was straight child abuse porn, God didn't mind.


It wasn't straight, though, since she was eating out her little girl's twat.

/But she was counting on the "girl-girl? HAWT!" defense.
 
2013-01-13 10:55:24 PM

Sgt Otter: DeaH: Member of the Alliance Defending Freedom Honors Corps.

What do you expect from a group that defines freedom as curtailing the rights of others.

You'd think such an awkward-sounding name would at least turn into a cool acronym.

ADFHC?


Colored people have a lock on that whole thing.
 
2013-01-13 10:56:32 PM

Emposter: Bathia_Mapes: FTA...a 14-year-old girl having sex with two men on multiple occasions.


No, the teen didn't have sex with the two men or the anti-gay lawyer. She was raped since the age of consent in NH is 16.

When you can't give consent due to age, another person generally has the power to give consent...usually the parent. For example, parents can give consent for people or businesses to expose a minor to explicit material which would normally be illegal. Might not be statutory rape, since her mother was involved. Not really something I've looked into before, but seems possible to say the least.

So.

1. Child endangerment (check)
2. Contributing to the delinquency of a minor (check)
3. Child pornography (check)
4. Child prostitution
5. Incest (check)
6. Drug possesion (check)
7. Statutory rape (maybe)
8. About a million other offenses against various laws and general human decency


Tornto Sun's story:
FTA: A New Hampshire lawyer known for her work with an anti-gay Christian legal group was found guilty Thursday of several sex charges after she drove a 14-year-old girl to Canada and forced her have sex on camera last spring.

That sounds like rapey rape to me.
 
2013-01-13 10:57:19 PM

Weaver95: James F. Campbell: Are Christians in some kind of competition I haven't heard about to see who can be the most hypocritical?

its weird, isn't it?  most of the christian organizations here in the US seem to either pay lip service to their beliefs or set out to deliberately twist and pervert their own ideology.  lies, hypocrisy, lust for power and control...money, sex, rampant greed.  plus the occasional drug use that seems to be sprinkled on top for flavor.  lots there to despise.  But you can't point any of this out to the rank and file.  they don't believe their leaders are corrupt.  at best, they'll abandon one leader who's been caught doing something bad and simply move down the line to the next one who's waiting to take over control of 'gods message' and keep right on truckin with the same exact message as before.


Meanwhile, as Christian leaders molest, well, everything, I feel like a bad person whenever I give in a little to my cravings for candy. The scope of evil we're dealing with here is just unfathomable, sometimes. And someone knew. I bet you a lot of someones knew and didn't do anything. Those people need to go to jail, too. Everyone who either actively covered up for her or knew and didn't tell anyone needs to go to jail.
 
2013-01-13 10:58:28 PM
Proof once again that the people who scream the loudest about how gays are pedophiles are the ones you need to watch out for the most. This one takes the cake as far as disgusting and perverted though. That poor daughter is going to need decades of therapy.
 
2013-01-13 10:58:58 PM
Maybe the balls weren't touching. Cuz it's not gay then right?
 
2013-01-13 11:00:18 PM

Sgt Otter: DeaH: Member of the Alliance Defending Freedom Honors Corps.

What do you expect from a group that defines freedom as curtailing the rights of others.

You'd think such an awkward-sounding name would at least turn into a cool acronym.

ADFHC?


It's like a duck with a speech impediment.

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com

ADFHC!!!
 
2013-01-13 11:06:38 PM
Didn't Jesus hang out with men in robes and drink wine exclusively?
 
2013-01-13 11:09:16 PM
This lawyer worked for a Christian political group and had gay sex with a child. I submit that this does not reflect badly on gays or Christians, but...

....most definitely lawyers. Yes, a surprising number of lawyers have been in the news as child predators. If we could do something about them it might put a dent in our pedophile problem. Or not, for ppl lacking a sense of irony.
 
2013-01-13 11:10:15 PM

wambu: So a pretentious, sanctimonious lawyer has no morals? This in news how?


Dammit, didnt see where you blamed lawyers already.
 
2013-01-13 11:10:27 PM

pueblonative: Emposter: Bathia_Mapes: FTA...a 14-year-old girl having sex with two men on multiple occasions.


No, the teen didn't have sex with the two men or the anti-gay lawyer. She was raped since the age of consent in NH is 16.

When you can't give consent due to age, another person generally has the power to give consent...usually the parent. For example, parents can give consent for people or businesses to expose a minor to explicit material which would normally be illegal. Might not be statutory rape, since her mother was involved. Not really something I've looked into before, but seems possible to say the least.

So.

1. Child endangerment (check)
2. Contributing to the delinquency of a minor (check)
3. Child pornography (check)
4. Child prostitution
5. Incest (check)
6. Drug possesion (check)
7. Statutory rape (maybe)
8. About a million other offenses against various laws and general human decency

Tornto Sun's story:
FTA: A New Hampshire lawyer known for her work with an anti-gay Christian legal group was found guilty Thursday of several sex charges after she drove a 14-year-old girl to Canada and forced her have sex on camera last spring.

That sounds like rapey rape to me.


I'm pretty sure that you can't get parental consent to have sex with a minor. At least not unless you're in Alabama and a wedding ring is involved.
Also - Canada? That'll add:
9. Kidnapping
10. Transporting minor across state / national lines for sex purposes.

I think she may even have managed to violate an anti-slavery law. I know there's a military regulation on that since a sizeable percentage of sex workers, especially in foreign countries, would be considered enslaved.

Have fun going to a federal pen with not only child molester, but slaveowner on your rap sheet.
 
2013-01-13 11:11:20 PM
Was there also a donkey? Or a midget? Did they use one of those dildos shaped like baby geezus?
 
2013-01-13 11:11:36 PM

Animatronik: This lawyer worked for a Christian political group and had gay sex with a child. I submit that this does not reflect badly on gays or Christians, but...

....most definitely lawyers women. Yes, a surprising number of lawyers women have been in the news as child predators. If we could do something about them it might put a dent in our pedophile problem. Or not, for ppl lacking a sense of irony.


FTFY
 
2013-01-13 11:15:53 PM
Using this shiatbird as a validation in the further dispute mentioned here is like saying all black people are criminals because one robbed you.

Karac: Have fun going to a federal pen with not only child molester, but slaveowner on your rap sheet.


Do you actually believe that child molesters have a harder time in prison than a burglar?
 
2013-01-13 11:24:00 PM
What's the difference between a catfish and a lawyer?

One is a scum sucking bottom feeder...

The other is a fish...

/my lawyer loves this joke
 
2013-01-13 11:24:33 PM
I like this part:

In the wake of Biron's arrest, the ADF removed all mentions of her from its website and Facebook page, and in a November CBS News report said that Biron was never an employee. The group has released no further statements on Biron. According to the LGBT blog Joe.My.God., the group continued to remove mentions of her from its Facebook page yesterday and banned anyone who posted anything about her.

Nope, never heard of her, nobody knows her, she never did anything for us, doesn't even exist, nope, not from around here, nosir, not one of ours!

These guys sound as resistant to criticism as Stormfront. Only with less balls.
 
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2013-01-13 11:26:13 PM
What does an anti-gay lawyer do when not defending the traditional family? For one lawyer, it's creating child porn involving herself and two other men

ARISTOCRATS!
 
2013-01-13 11:27:00 PM

James F. Campbell: Weaver95: James F. Campbell: Are Christians in some kind of competition I haven't heard about to see who can be the most hypocritical?

its weird, isn't it?  most of the christian organizations here in the US seem to either pay lip service to their beliefs or set out to deliberately twist and pervert their own ideology.  lies, hypocrisy, lust for power and control...money, sex, rampant greed.  plus the occasional drug use that seems to be sprinkled on top for flavor.  lots there to despise.  But you can't point any of this out to the rank and file.  they don't believe their leaders are corrupt.  at best, they'll abandon one leader who's been caught doing something bad and simply move down the line to the next one who's waiting to take over control of 'gods message' and keep right on truckin with the same exact message as before.

Meanwhile, as Christian leaders molest, well, everything, I feel like a bad person whenever I give in a little to my cravings for candy. The scope of evil we're dealing with here is just unfathomable, sometimes. And someone knew. I bet you a lot of someones knew and didn't do anything. Those people need to go to jail, too. Everyone who either actively covered up for her or knew and didn't tell anyone needs to go to jail.


So what kind of horrible perverted Blue-Velveteen act is this a euphemism for?
 
2013-01-13 11:27:23 PM

Mangoose: Do you actually believe that child molesters have a harder time in prison than a burglar?


Not only that, she'll be going to a woman's prison, and women's prisons generally have a much lower rate of violence than men's prisons.
 
2013-01-13 11:30:28 PM

platedlizard: Mangoose: Do you actually believe that child molesters have a harder time in prison than a burglar?

Not only that, she'll be going to a woman's prison, and women's prisons generally have a much lower rate of violence than men's prisons.


In women's prisons, child molesters and child abusers get the shiat kicked out of them. Although the violence is lower overall than in men's prisons, the one thing you don't want to be is a woman who abused kids, surrounded by other women who desperately miss their own kids.

Source: my friend the CO, who assures me that he sees what happens to child molesters in his own prison, and knows that it's a lot worse in the women's place.
 
2013-01-13 11:38:43 PM

Bathia_Mapes: FTA...a 14-year-old girl having sex with two men on multiple occasions.


No, the teen didn't have sex with the two men or the anti-gay lawyer. She was raped since the age of consent in NH is 16.


But it wasn't rape rape.

/window seat please
 
2013-01-13 11:39:21 PM
"For one lawyer, it's creating child porn involving herself and two other men"

So the lawyer is a man?
 
2013-01-13 11:41:34 PM

James F. Campbell: Are Christians in some kind of competition I haven't heard about to see who can be the most hypocritical?


It's only hypocritical if she doesn't demand fifty shekels of silver from the man.
 
2013-01-13 11:46:55 PM

Lochsteppe: So what kind of horrible perverted Blue-Velveteen act is this a euphemism for?


You know that saying, "They're all pink on the inside"? It's true for Dubble Bubble, too.
 
2013-01-13 11:47:29 PM

gingerjet: Bathia_Mapes: FTA...a 14-year-old girl having sex with two men on multiple occasions.


No, the teen didn't have sex with the two men or the anti-gay lawyer. She was raped since the age of consent in NH is 16.

But it wasn't rape rape.

/window seat please


Indications are it was also rape rape.
 
2013-01-13 11:47:40 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: basemetal: [ct.fra.bz image 500x391] (Arrested for child pornography)

AND PERFORMING CUNNILINGUS ON HER OWN DAUGHTER.

Cthulhu knows I'm no friend of Christianity, but I gotta say - even with CHRISTIANS, I don't expect mothers to traffic in porn movies involving their 14 year old kid.  And certainly not films of them performing oral sex on their own children.

I don't know why I'm surprised, but I am.


I normally don't like this sort of talk about entire groups of people, not only because it is hyperbolic but also because Republicans have used it to great effect to malign liberals, and I like to think we're better than that.

That being said . . .

I really can't blame you for talking about Christians that way, because they sure as hell haven't done themselves any favors in the PR department over the past twenty years. Perhaps a little generalized demonizing will force them to pull their heads out of their asses eventually.

/doubt it
 
2013-01-13 11:48:46 PM

Gyrfalcon: I like this part:

In the wake of Biron's arrest, the ADF removed all mentions of her from its website and Facebook page, and in a November CBS News report said that Biron was never an employee. The group has released no further statements on Biron. According to the LGBT blog Joe.My.God., the group continued to remove mentions of her from its Facebook page yesterday and banned anyone who posted anything about her.

Nope, never heard of her, nobody knows her, she never did anything for us, doesn't even exist, nope, not from around here, nosir, not one of ours!

These guys sound as resistant to criticism as Stormfront. Only with less balls.


when you've bet your reputation on a horrendously stupid idea, you often need to re-create reality around whatever facts you're given at the moment. Bigots have to do this a lot.
 
2013-01-13 11:49:27 PM

Gyrfalcon: platedlizard: Mangoose: Do you actually believe that child molesters have a harder time in prison than a burglar?

Not only that, she'll be going to a woman's prison, and women's prisons generally have a much lower rate of violence than men's prisons.

In women's prisons, child molesters and child abusers get the shiat kicked out of them. Although the violence is lower overall than in men's prisons, the one thing you don't want to be is a woman who abused kids, surrounded by other women who desperately miss their own kids.

Source: my friend the CO, who assures me that he sees what happens to child molesters in his own prison, and knows that it's a lot worse in the women's place.


Didn't Susan Smith (the woman who drowned her two young sons by locking them in a car, putting something heavy on the gas pedal, and aiming it towards a lake; then blamed it on a black man and nearly started race riots some decades ago) get beat up daily in prison, and then had the gall to ask what she'd done to deserve that?
 
2013-01-13 11:49:53 PM

Mangoose: Using this shiatbird as a validation in the further dispute mentioned here is like saying all black people are criminals because one robbed you.

Karac: Have fun going to a federal pen with not only child molester, but slaveowner on your rap sheet.

Do you actually believe that child molesters have a harder time in prison than a burglar?


Well, my wife worked in a prison, and says that child molesters do have a harder time and often have to be put in protective wings.
 
2013-01-13 11:53:42 PM

djkutch: Didn't Jesus hang out with men in robes and drink wine exclusively?


Don't forget teh hookers. Jebus loved him some hookers.
 
2013-01-13 11:53:43 PM

The Name: Benevolent Misanthrope: basemetal: [ct.fra.bz image 500x391] (Arrested for child pornography)

AND PERFORMING CUNNILINGUS ON HER OWN DAUGHTER.

Cthulhu knows I'm no friend of Christianity, but I gotta say - even with CHRISTIANS, I don't expect mothers to traffic in porn movies involving their 14 year old kid.  And certainly not films of them performing oral sex on their own children.

I don't know why I'm surprised, but I am.

I normally don't like this sort of talk about entire groups of people, not only because it is hyperbolic but also because Republicans have used it to great effect to malign liberals, and I like to think we're better than that.

That being said . . .

I really can't blame you for talking about Christians that way, because they sure as hell haven't done themselves any favors in the PR department over the past twenty years. Perhaps a little generalized demonizing will force them to pull their heads out of their asses eventually.

/doubt it


Until large churches disavow themselves of the actions of their more violent offspring, we can't really be sure, can we? I mean, what was that huge group of evangelicals that Reverend Buttsecks Mc Methdude was the president of? The guy in CO - haggard or something.

It's kinda like some guy who always just happens to be standing around when a fire starts - once or twice, ok, maybe it's just coincidence. 650 or 700 times, you start to say, you know, I think maybe there's some connection here...
 
2013-01-14 12:02:30 AM

Mangoose: Using this shiatbird as a validation in the further dispute mentioned here is like saying all black people are criminals because one robbed you.

Karac: Have fun going to a federal pen with not only child molester, but slaveowner on your rap sheet.

Do you actually believe that child molesters have a harder time in prison than a burglar?


A lot of criminals were molested as children.
 
2013-01-14 12:07:20 AM
Think of the children already
 
2013-01-14 12:08:04 AM

MisterTweak: Until large churches disavow themselves of the actions of their more violent offspring, we can't really be sure, can we? I mean, what was that huge group of evangelicals that Reverend Buttsecks Mc Methdude was the president of? The guy in CO - haggard or something.


Haggard at least engage a male escort in consensual gay sex. This was beyond that.
 
2013-01-14 12:08:12 AM

MisterTweak: Gyrfalcon: I like this part:

In the wake of Biron's arrest, the ADF removed all mentions of her from its website and Facebook page, and in a November CBS News report said that Biron was never an employee. The group has released no further statements on Biron. According to the LGBT blog Joe.My.God., the group continued to remove mentions of her from its Facebook page yesterday and banned anyone who posted anything about her.

Nope, never heard of her, nobody knows her, she never did anything for us, doesn't even exist, nope, not from around here, nosir, not one of ours!

These guys sound as resistant to criticism as Stormfront. Only with less balls.

when you've bet your reputation on a horrendously stupid idea, you often need to re-create reality around whatever facts you're given at the moment. Bigots have to do this a lot.


We had an incredibly obnoxious, pro-war, embedded reporter with my unit in Iraq, named Matt Sanchez, who was the darling of Fox News and the rest of the right-wing media, particularly of the most vocal chickenhawk bloggers.

It was later revealed that he used to work as a male prostitute and gay porn star.

The "Matt who? Never heard of him, and we've certainly never re-blogged any of his articles. Isn't he the quarterback for the Jets?" reaction was similar.
 
2013-01-14 12:17:45 AM

Sgt Otter: MisterTweak: Gyrfalcon: I like this part:

In the wake of Biron's arrest, the ADF removed all mentions of her from its website and Facebook page, and in a November CBS News report said that Biron was never an employee. The group has released no further statements on Biron. According to the LGBT blog Joe.My.God., the group continued to remove mentions of her from its Facebook page yesterday and banned anyone who posted anything about her.

Nope, never heard of her, nobody knows her, she never did anything for us, doesn't even exist, nope, not from around here, nosir, not one of ours!

These guys sound as resistant to criticism as Stormfront. Only with less balls.

when you've bet your reputation on a horrendously stupid idea, you often need to re-create reality around whatever facts you're given at the moment. Bigots have to do this a lot.

We had an incredibly obnoxious, pro-war, embedded reporter with my unit in Iraq, named Matt Sanchez, who was the darling of Fox News and the rest of the right-wing media, particularly of the most vocal chickenhawk bloggers.

It was later revealed that he used to work as a male prostitute and gay porn star.

The "Matt who? Never heard of him, and we've certainly never re-blogged any of his articles. Isn't he the quarterback for the Jets?" reaction was similar.


This wasn't the guy they used to give W softball questions in WH briefings, was it? I may have missed this one. I know, I know, the number seems to be absolutely limitless.
 
2013-01-14 12:18:35 AM
That's pretty disgusting.
 
2013-01-14 12:22:20 AM

James F. Campbell: Lochsteppe: So what kind of horrible perverted Blue-Velveteen act is this a euphemism for?

You know that saying, "They're all pink on the inside"? It's true for Dubble Bubble, too.


Ah yes. Hubbabubbaphilia. Well, just remember Dan Savage's 3 G's: as a lover, be Good, Giving, and Gum.
 
2013-01-14 12:25:24 AM
Confessions if based on the headline you were sure this was going to be a man and the victim a boy...

Come on, fess up... How many you expected that before you clicked? I'll admit it.
 
2013-01-14 12:29:19 AM

MisterTweak: Sgt Otter: MisterTweak: Gyrfalcon: I like this part:

In the wake of Biron's arrest, the ADF removed all mentions of her from its website and Facebook page, and in a November CBS News report said that Biron was never an employee. The group has released no further statements on Biron. According to the LGBT blog Joe.My.God., the group continued to remove mentions of her from its Facebook page yesterday and banned anyone who posted anything about her.

Nope, never heard of her, nobody knows her, she never did anything for us, doesn't even exist, nope, not from around here, nosir, not one of ours!

These guys sound as resistant to criticism as Stormfront. Only with less balls.

when you've bet your reputation on a horrendously stupid idea, you often need to re-create reality around whatever facts you're given at the moment. Bigots have to do this a lot.

We had an incredibly obnoxious, pro-war, embedded reporter with my unit in Iraq, named Matt Sanchez, who was the darling of Fox News and the rest of the right-wing media, particularly of the most vocal chickenhawk bloggers.

It was later revealed that he used to work as a male prostitute and gay porn star.

The "Matt who? Never heard of him, and we've certainly never re-blogged any of his articles. Isn't he the quarterback for the Jets?" reaction was similar.

This wasn't the guy they used to give W softball questions in WH briefings, was it? I may have missed this one. I know, I know, the number seems to be absolutely limitless.


No, that was a different conservative douchebag journalist with a name similar to a second tier NFL qb (Jeff Gannon)
 
2013-01-14 12:31:06 AM

djkutch: Didn't Jesus hang out with men in robes and drink wine exclusively?


Yeah, I hear his blood alcohol content is about 12. Not .12, but 12.
 
2013-01-14 12:35:55 AM
not have been a formal employee of the ADF....

The SPKKKLC once again takes a marginal person aligned with some Christian group and tries to link their perverted deviance to that group....

Of course, they will never mention that Morris Dees, founder of the SPKKLC, is a notorious sexual harasser who has had numerous complaints about him from the SPKKKLC staff.

The SPKKKLC is nothing more than a hate group....who uses minorities and special interest groups to sue whites and groups led by white folks. Although they will list a group like the New Black Panthers (The Black KKK) as a "hate group"....they will never sue that group because it is black.
 
2013-01-14 12:44:48 AM
fta 450 hours of pro bono service

Heh heh heh
 
2013-01-14 12:45:02 AM

MisterTweak: The Name: Benevolent Misanthrope: basemetal: [ct.fra.bz image 500x391] (Arrested for child pornography)

AND PERFORMING CUNNILINGUS ON HER OWN DAUGHTER.

Cthulhu knows I'm no friend of Christianity, but I gotta say - even with CHRISTIANS, I don't expect mothers to traffic in porn movies involving their 14 year old kid.  And certainly not films of them performing oral sex on their own children.
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Where does TFA say that the girl was her daughter?
 
2013-01-14 12:49:16 AM

catmandu: MisterTweak: The Name: Benevolent Misanthrope: basemetal: [ct.fra.bz image 500x391] (Arrested for child pornography)

AND PERFORMING CUNNILINGUS ON HER OWN DAUGHTER.

Cthulhu knows I'm no friend of Christianity, but I gotta say - even with CHRISTIANS, I don't expect mothers to traffic in porn movies involving their 14 year old kid.  And certainly not films of them performing oral sex on their own children.
.

Where does TFA say that the girl was her daughter?


There are other articles out there that indicate that it's her daughter that was the victim.
 
2013-01-14 12:49:21 AM

MisterTweak: It's kinda like some guy who always just happens to be standing around when a fire starts - once or twice, ok, maybe it's just coincidence. 650 or 700 times, you start to say, you know, I think maybe there's some connection here...


I dunno. That still comes close to arguing that there's something inherent in Christianity that makes people hypocrites and pedophiles, which is just more hyperbole and lazy thinking.

I'll go so far as to say that American Christians by and large have been derelict in responding to what's been going on among their coreligionists. By all means there should be some major outrage and a major movement towards reform and modernization within the faith.
 
2013-01-14 12:50:42 AM

The Name: I'll go so far as to say that American Christians by and large have been derelict in responding to what's been going on among their coreligionists. By all means there should be some major outrage and a major movement towards reform and modernization within the faith.


Precisely, and the organization's response to this event is typical of Christian organizations: instead of acknowledging the error, they simply try to pretend it never happened.
 
2013-01-14 12:58:43 AM

randomjsa: Confessions if based on the headline you were sure this was going to be a man and the victim a boy...

Come on, fess up... How many you expected that before you clicked? I'll admit it.


"involving herself" kind of precluded that.
 
2013-01-14 01:03:15 AM

Weaver95: but homosexuals are the immoral ones, right?  yeesh...


Always seems like the link between homosexuality and pedophilia is only through homophobes. They're like the Missing Link or something...
 
2013-01-14 01:05:30 AM

catmandu: Where does TFA say that the girl was her daughter?


The Southern Poverty Law Center is trying to protect the identity of the victim by not mentioning that she is the woman's daughter since that would make it the identity quite obvious.
 
2013-01-14 01:08:17 AM

nobodyUwannaknow: Was there also a donkey? Or a midget? Did they use one of those dildos shaped like baby geezus?


Dildo? No. This maybe:
baby jeebus butt plug

NSFW link opens in new window
 
2013-01-14 01:11:12 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: not have been a formal employee of the ADF....

The SPKKKLC once again takes a marginal person aligned with some Christian group and tries to link their perverted deviance to that group....

Of course, they will never mention that Morris Dees, founder of the SPKKLC, is a notorious sexual harasser who has had numerous complaints about him from the SPKKKLC staff.

The SPKKKLC is nothing more than a hate group....who uses minorities and special interest groups to sue whites and groups led by white folks. Although they will list a group like the New Black Panthers (The Black KKK) as a "hate group"....they will never sue that group because it is black.


So to attack the SPLC, you associate them with the KKK, splinter groups of which they have shut down with their lawsuits after the KKK assaulted minorities.
 
2013-01-14 01:12:24 AM
How does a kid recover from something like that?
 
2013-01-14 01:16:49 AM

log_jammin: How does a kid recover from something like that?


Hire a lawyer that doesn't have a taste for little girls?
 
2013-01-14 01:18:29 AM

Ed Willy: So to attack the SPLC, you associate them with the KKK, splinter groups of which they have shut down with their lawsuits after the KKK assaulted minorities.


I don't know why you're even talking to that thing.
 
2013-01-14 01:19:41 AM

FormlessOne: Hire a lawyer that doesn't have a taste for little girls?


no really. That girl is going to be farked up for the rest of her life. The one person in the world that you're supposed to be able to trust, her own mother, just...wow.
 
2013-01-14 01:22:09 AM

randomjsa: Confessions if based on the headline you were sure this was going to be a man and the victim a boy...

Come on, fess up... How many you expected that before you clicked? I'll admit it.


Do you ever think to yourself "Maybe I have nothing to add to this thread"?
 
2013-01-14 01:24:35 AM

AbbeySomeone: FTFA:... claim that homosexuality and pedophelia are "intrinsically linked"...

Well, it sounds like she knows something about this.


Actually she wasn't into pedophelia, she is apparently into ephebophilia. Huge difference.

/still messed up, just clarifying
 
2013-01-14 01:33:06 AM
 
2013-01-14 01:36:43 AM
I would have preferred a loving gay couple for parents rather than my miserable conventional parents. Get over it. Good parenting has nothing to do with sexual orientation.
 
2013-01-14 01:38:45 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: not have been a formal employee of the ADF....

The SPKKKLC once again takes a marginal person aligned with some Christian group and tries to link their perverted deviance to that group....

Of course, they will never mention that Morris Dees, founder of the SPKKLC, is a notorious sexual harasser who has had numerous complaints about him from the SPKKKLC staff.

The SPKKKLC is nothing more than a hate group....who uses minorities and special interest groups to sue whites and groups led by white folks. Although they will list a group like the New Black Panthers (The Black KKK) as a "hate group"....they will never sue that group because it is black.


Thanks for your thoughts, KKKRoadWarrior!
 
2013-01-14 01:41:02 AM

Weaver95: James F. Campbell: Are Christians in some kind of competition I haven't heard about to see who can be the most hypocritical?

its weird, isn't it?  most of the christian organizations here in the US seem to either pay lip service to their beliefs or set out to deliberately twist and pervert their own ideology.  lies, hypocrisy, lust for power and control...money, sex, rampant greed.  plus the occasional drug use that seems to be sprinkled on top for flavor.  lots there to despise.  But you can't point any of this out to the rank and file.  they don't believe their leaders are corrupt.  at best, they'll abandon one leader who's been caught doing something bad and simply move down the line to the next one who's waiting to take over control of 'gods message' and keep right on truckin with the same exact message as before.


Most are like this? Wtf....
 
2013-01-14 01:45:26 AM

JesusJuice: I literally can no longer think of Christianity without thinking of pedophilia. Xians just skeeve me out at this point. Never hear about Atheists doing this shiat.


Probably because they make up 2% of the population. Also, journalists rarely point out if a sex offender is atheist, it's more sensational to mention their religion if they have one.
 
2013-01-14 01:52:23 AM

Mangoose: Do you actually believe that child molesters have a harder time in prison than a burglar?


You really are ignorant.

My father and brothers have all spent time in San Q.

I assure you that child molesters have a harder time in prison than a burglar. It isn't a myth.
 
2013-01-14 01:55:59 AM

rynthetyn: Proof once again that the people who scream the loudest about how gays are pedophiles are the ones you need to watch out for the most. This one takes the cake as far as disgusting and perverted though. That poor daughter is going to need decades of therapy.


Link
 
2013-01-14 01:57:18 AM

jst3p: My father and brothers have all spent time in San Q.


remind me to never piss you off.
 
2013-01-14 02:01:23 AM
I wonder if she realized while she was doing it that nomming her own daughter's coot is... kinda gay.
 
2013-01-14 02:01:49 AM

log_jammin: FormlessOne: Hire a lawyer that doesn't have a taste for little girls?

no really. That girl is going to be farked up for the rest of her life. The one person in the world that you're supposed to be able to trust, her own mother, just...wow.


Won't get any arguments from me. Untangling that psychological mess is going to keep both lawyers and therapists in Ferrari money for some time.
 
2013-01-14 02:02:00 AM
Hey look, another name for the ignore list.
 
2013-01-14 02:03:17 AM

log_jammin: jst3p: My father and brothers have all spent time in San Q.

remind me to never piss you off.


Cool story bro time:

One brother and my father were there at the same time, but for different offenses. They got to share a cell. I was kind of surprised, for some reason I thought they wouldn't allow it but according to them anything they can give then later take away is a tool to encourage compliance and good behavior.

Even cooler story, both brothers and my dad turned their lives around and are all doing well today. My dad is even going to do some legal mumbo jumbo that amounts to getting his record cleared by the Governor because he has spent "x" years with a clean record and working as a productive member of society. I am not sure of the details but I am proud of them all.
 
2013-01-14 02:05:55 AM
Why couldn't she also be a Phelps from Topeka?
 
2013-01-14 02:12:30 AM

propasaurus: Hey look, another name for the ignore list.


Just ignore people you disagree with, don't debate them or offer them guidance in the right direction.
 
2013-01-14 02:14:01 AM

jst3p: Even cooler story, both brothers and my dad turned their lives around and are all doing well today. My dad is even going to do some legal mumbo jumbo that amounts to getting his record cleared by the Governor because he has spent "x" years with a clean record and working as a productive member of society. I am not sure of the details but I am proud of them all.


That's awesome man. not many people manage to do that.
 
2013-01-14 02:16:53 AM

jst3p: Even cooler story, both brothers and my dad turned their lives around and are all doing well today. My dad is even going to do some legal mumbo jumbo that amounts to getting his record cleared by the Governor because he has spent "x" years with a clean record and working as a productive member of society. I am not sure of the details but I am proud of them all.


That is awesome. And I'm not just saying that as random internet kudos, I genuinely mean it.
 
2013-01-14 02:18:24 AM

WhyteRaven74: That is awesome. And I'm not just saying that as random internet kudos, I genuinely mean it.


great. not it looks like I gave "random internet kudos". thanks a lot.

jerk...
 
2013-01-14 02:21:42 AM
log_jammin: WhyteRaven74:

It really is awesome, It is funny they all admire me for staying out of trouble and leading a "normal, boring, killer life" (their words) and I admire them for the lives they live now.

We have very interesting family get-togethers and none of us would change a thing.
 
2013-01-14 02:22:35 AM
99% of lawyers make the other 1% look bad.
 
2013-01-14 02:25:40 AM

log_jammin: WhyteRaven74: That is awesome. And I'm not just saying that as random internet kudos, I genuinely mean it.

great. not it looks like I gave "random internet kudos". thanks a lot.

jerk...


Your awesome ran free for only a moment, then... YOINK!
 
2013-01-14 02:26:01 AM
Sgt Otter: MisterTweak: Gyrfalcon: I like this part:

In the wake of Biron's arrest, the ADF removed all mentions of her from its website and Facebook page, and in a November CBS News report said that Biron was never an employee. The group has released no further statements on Biron. According to the LGBT blog Joe.My.God., the group continued to remove mentions of her from its Facebook page yesterday and banned anyone who posted anything about her.

Nope, never heard of her, nobody knows her, she never did anything for us, doesn't even exist, nope, not from around here, nosir, not one of ours!

These guys sound as resistant to criticism as Stormfront. Only with less balls.

when you've bet your reputation on a horrendously stupid idea, you often need to re-create reality around whatever facts you're given at the moment. Bigots have to do this a lot.

We had an incredibly obnoxious, pro-war, embedded reporter with my unit in Iraq, named Matt Sanchez, who was the darling of Fox News and the rest of the right-wing media, particularly of the most vocal chickenhawk bloggers.

It was later revealed that he used to work as a male prostitute and gay porn star.

The "Matt who? Never heard of him, and we've certainly never re-blogged any of his articles. Isn't he the quarterback for the Jets?" reaction was similar.


tee-hee...he has a wiki page. In the early 1990s, Sanchez performed in Pierre La Branche and Rod Majors.[2][4] However, in a 2007 interview, Sanchez commented that "I don't like porn, it reduces the mind, flattens the soul" and that he considers his pornographic career an identity outgrown.[3][14] [23]

I remember the guy now. He didn't get the amount of attention Jeff Gannon did... that's for sure.
 
2013-01-14 02:27:27 AM

jst3p: log_jammin: jst3p: My father and brothers have all spent time in San Q.

remind me to never piss you off.

Cool story bro time:

One brother and my father were there at the same time, but for different offenses. They got to share a cell. I was kind of surprised, for some reason I thought they wouldn't allow it but according to them anything they can give then later take away is a tool to encourage compliance and good behavior.

Even cooler story, both brothers and my dad turned their lives around and are all doing well today. My dad is even going to do some legal mumbo jumbo that amounts to getting his record cleared by the Governor because he has spent "x" years with a clean record and working as a productive member of society. I am not sure of the details but I am proud of them all.


I am very glad to hear it; I know the odds are stacked pretty bad against people in that situation.

You bring up a really good point that's too often overlooked - that minor privileges (television, visits, recreation) are incredibly valuable in keeping prisons safe for both the inmates and the employees - this is too often overlooked by people suffering poutrage that an inmate with an excellent record and coming close to being released back into society, might just need some experience and practice being in people in a non-prison setting.
 
2013-01-14 02:30:47 AM

Notabunny: Your awesome ran free for only a moment, then... YOINK!


Ha!
 
2013-01-14 02:34:49 AM

MisterTweak: You bring up a really good point that's too often overlooked - that minor privileges (television, visits, recreation) are incredibly valuable in keeping prisons safe for both the inmates and the employees


Yeah, I have never been but whenever I hear (more often read) some one say "cable in prison? fark that!" it makes me feel stabby. I was on the paying end of many collect calls from prison and damn... it sucks, as it should, but if you treat people like animals that is how they will behave. It is best for all involved to provide some minor comforts that can be removed.
 
2013-01-14 02:35:37 AM

jst3p: We have very interesting family get-togethers and none of us would change a thing.


I can imagine you do.

log_jammin: jerk...


*snerk*
 
2013-01-14 02:55:55 AM
So... a virulently anti-gay Republican was not only gay themselves, but also incestuous AND pedophilic?

The party of family values.
Who was it that was admonishing me for making fun of Republicans being gay a few weeks ago? No comment this time, eh?
 
2013-01-14 03:29:13 AM

giftedmadness: JesusJuice: I literally can no longer think of Christianity without thinking of pedophilia. Xians just skeeve me out at this point. Never hear about Atheists doing this shiat.

Probably because they make up 2% of the population. Also, journalists rarely point out if a sex offender is atheist, it's more sensational to mention their religion if they have one.


So nobody's allowed to connect religion to pedophilia but it's ok to call all gays pedophiles?

Hooray for scapegoats.
 
2013-01-14 03:40:12 AM

propasaurus: Hey look, another name for the ignore list.


It's the people (and I use that term loosely) who troll threads like this one that especially disgust me.
 
2013-01-14 03:48:22 AM

The Name: I dunno. That still comes close to arguing that there's something inherent in Christianity that makes people hypocrites and pedophiles, which is just more hyperbole and lazy thinking.


It seems to be the other way around - there's something inherent in people who happen to be hypocrites and paedophiles that draws them towards Christianity. Certainly, not every paedo is a Christian and very few Christians are paedos, but there is absolutely a link there, particularly in the higher tiers of the religion, and denying it (not that you are, but Christians in general do) is nothing but willful blindness.
 
2013-01-14 03:58:34 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: It seems to be the other way around - there's something inherent in people who happen to be hypocrites and paedophiles that draws them towards Christianity.


Or perhaps something inherent in the way that modern Christianity is run that makes it attractive to people who happen to be hypocrites and paedophiles already? This would be a fascinating scientific study, actually, if it could be done without setting off the "We're being oppressed!" crowd.
 
2013-01-14 04:15:13 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: Or perhaps something inherent in the way that modern Christianity is run that makes it attractive to people who happen to be hypocrites and paedophiles already?


I'd say it has more to due with the personality types that are driven to power. doesn't matter if that position is the church, government, or the new VP of widget production.
 
2013-01-14 04:29:24 AM
Oh my. In this case the egregious hypocrisy is actually the least offensive thing about it.
 
2013-01-14 04:35:54 AM
You Social Cons are some kinky MoFo's... I've been going to all the wrong parties.
 
2013-01-14 04:44:16 AM

Craptastic: Do you ever think to yourself "Maybe I have nothing to add to this thread"?


Sure.

But then I see responses as poor as yours and then I feel the need to add something intelligent.
 
2013-01-14 04:55:22 AM

randomjsa: Craptastic: Do you ever think to yourself "Maybe I have nothing to add to this thread"?

Sure.

But then I see responses as poor as yours and then I feel the need to add something intelligent.


So why do you post?
 
2013-01-14 05:03:50 AM

Gyrfalcon: So why do you post?


Because he's a self-admitted troll, and that's what self-admitted trolls do. :P
 
2013-01-14 05:14:39 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: The Name: I dunno. That still comes close to arguing that there's something inherent in Christianity that makes people hypocrites and pedophiles, which is just more hyperbole and lazy thinking.

It seems to be the other way around - there's something inherent in people who happen to be hypocrites and paedophiles that draws them towards Christianity. Certainly, not every paedo is a Christian and very few Christians are paedos, but there is absolutely a link there, particularly in the higher tiers of the religion, and denying it (not that you are, but Christians in general do) is nothing but willful blindness.


its not the religion per se. im sure this same phenomenon is everywhere with every religion.

its a larger issue. When people are conflicted about something and are self hating on this level, they keep thinking to themselves "i must RESIST this, i must resist, indeed, i need to become a priest to attain the purity and cleans my soul of this sin!" and then they snap, rape an altar boy, then redouble their efforts to cleanse their soul with the help of god or whatever until they reoffend. or do meth with a rentboy in a hotel like ted haggard. or whatever the jewish/muslim equivalent would be.

basically when people are actively repressing urges they tend to over compensate. this is why so many ghey bashers are closet ghey, why so many people who are the oudest against something get busted in a parking lot with it with their pants down.
 
2013-01-14 05:16:01 AM
Biron, who claimed on her Facebook page (which was taken down, according to the Concord Monitor) that the Bible was her favorite book

Well, I guess selling your daughter off is condoned in the bible, so she isn't really contradicting herself. Also 14 was a proper age for marrying off your child in olden days... actually you were suppose to marry them off around 12, but 14 wasn't horribly old. So she's also okay there. Where she runs into problems with the bible is :

She also allegedly made a cellphone video of herself having sex with the girl.

That is a problem. You can marry off your child, you can sell off your child, but you can't have sex with your child in the bible. She should know that. Also two men? That's another problem, sodomy is illegal according to the Bible, so unless they were taking turns, she' violated in that instance as well.

It seems she doesn't like the Bible as much as she claims.
 
2013-01-14 05:33:41 AM

randomjsa: Craptastic: Do you ever think to yourself "Maybe I have nothing to add to this thread"?

Sure.

But then I see responses as poor as yours and then I feel the need to add something intelligent.


Your random spurts of jism are not intelligent on their own, buddy.
 
2013-01-14 06:06:56 AM
These Democrat-types set out to infiltrate groups like this for the purpose of subterfuge. Keep an eye on this one and see who it is working for her release from prison. You'll find Soros money behind it.
 
2013-01-14 06:11:51 AM

Noam Chimpsky: These Democrat-types set out to infiltrate groups like this for the purpose of subterfuge. Keep an eye on this one and see who it is working for her release from prison. You'll find Soros money behind it.


That's [ Funny ]

You're [ Funny ]
 
2013-01-14 06:37:16 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: not have been a formal employee of the ADF....

The SPKKKLC once again takes a marginal person aligned with some Christian group and tries to link their perverted deviance to that group....

Of course, they will never mention that Morris Dees, founder of the SPKKLC, is a notorious sexual harasser who has had numerous complaints about him from the SPKKKLC staff.

The SPKKKLC is nothing more than a hate group....who uses minorities and special interest groups to sue whites and groups led by white folks. Although they will list a group like the New Black Panthers (The Black KKK) as a "hate group"....they will never sue that group because it is black.


You mean like how this "Christian" group tried to paint the picture that all homosexuals are deviant child predators? It hurts when someone bites back, doesn't it?
 
2013-01-14 06:42:16 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: Fluorescent Testicle: It seems to be the other way around - there's something inherent in people who happen to be hypocrites and paedophiles that draws them towards Christianity.

Or perhaps something inherent in the way that modern Christianity is run that makes it attractive to people who happen to be hypocrites and paedophiles already? This would be a fascinating scientific study, actually, if it could be done without setting off the "We're being oppressed!" crowd.


I would have thought that a politically powerful organisation that has a history of enabling and covering up for paedophiles is pretty much the number one choice for employer with paedophiles.
 
2013-01-14 06:49:23 AM

tuckeg: "For one lawyer, it's creating child porn involving herself and two other men"

So the lawyer is a man?


I was just curious what part of that was considered "child pornography" until I R'dTFA.  Good job, subby, leaving out the important information.
 
2013-01-14 06:51:26 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: HER OWN DAUGHTER


Was TFA edited to protect the victim or something?  Don't see that detail in there right now.
 
2013-01-14 06:53:20 AM
Excuse me, dumbmitter, but there's nothing in the Bible that says you can't videotape two men having sex with a 14-year-old.
 
2013-01-14 06:56:30 AM

Arkanaut: Excuse me, dumbmitter, but there's nothing in the Bible that says you can't videotape two men having sex with a 14-year-old.


Well, if it was individual encounters with each man on separate occasions, I think she would have to marry the first one and then be guilty of adultery.  But if it was both guys at the same time, yeah I think the bible is ok with that as long as their balls don't touch.
 
2013-01-14 06:56:37 AM

serial_crusher: Benevolent Misanthrope: HER OWN DAUGHTER

Was TFA edited to protect the victim or something?  Don't see that detail in there right now.


Yes. Read the comments of TFA, there are comments from the mods about having edited comments that exposed the victim's identity, because while perpatrators should be exposed, victims should be protected.

The specific perpatrator / victim connection in this case makes that protection more difficult, which is why it wasn't highlighted in the article
 
2013-01-14 07:13:34 AM
Sometime it's nice knowing other people will respond with harsher punishment than I feel pertinent in society. A person like this deserves terrible, terrible things to happen to her.
 
2013-01-14 07:20:22 AM

baka-san: Bathia_Mapes: She was raped

But was it literal rape?


Yes but not legitimate rape.
 
2013-01-14 07:32:42 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: not have been a formal employee of the ADF....

The SPKKKLC once again takes a marginal person aligned with some Christian group and tries to link their perverted deviance to that group....

Of course, they will never mention that Morris Dees, founder of the SPKKLC, is a notorious sexual harasser who has had numerous complaints about him from the SPKKKLC staff.

The SPKKKLC is nothing more than a hate group....who uses minorities and special interest groups to sue whites and groups led by white folks. Although they will list a group like the New Black Panthers (The Black KKK) as a "hate group"....they will never sue that group because it is black.


I have you noted as "Racist". I'm glad to see you still promote the white pride taking points.
 
2013-01-14 07:43:23 AM
Disgusting...

And these hypocritical assholes have the balls to call homosexuals immoral.
 
2013-01-14 07:52:19 AM

Gyrfalcon: In the wake of Biron's arrest, the ADF removed all mentions of her from its website and Facebook page, and in a November CBS News report said that Biron was never an employee. The group has released no further statements on Biron. According to the LGBT blog Joe.My.God., the group continued to remove mentions of her from its Facebook page yesterday and banned anyone who posted anything about her.


farm3.staticflickr.com

How much you want to bet they're all virulently anti-communist too?
 
2013-01-14 07:53:54 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: not have been a formal employee of the ADF....

The SPKKKLC once again takes a marginal person aligned with some Christian group and tries to link their perverted deviance to that group....

Of course, they will never mention that Morris Dees, founder of the SPKKLC, is a notorious sexual harasser who has had numerous complaints about him from the SPKKKLC staff.

The SPKKKLC is nothing more than a hate group....who uses minorities and special interest groups to sue whites and groups led by white folks. Although they will list a group like the New Black Panthers (The Black KKK) as a "hate group"....they will never sue that group because it is black.


Oh there you are. I hadn't seen you in a while, I figured The Man had busted your trailer meth lab.
 
2013-01-14 07:54:58 AM
Was the daughter hot?

/somebody had to
 
2013-01-14 07:55:49 AM

serial_crusher: Benevolent Misanthrope: HER OWN DAUGHTER

Was TFA edited to protect the victim or something?  Don't see that detail in there right now.


The article was edited. You can look at the comments:

I've deleted some comments, not because they were somehow bad, but because we agree with the gist of them - we shouldn't be including language that identifies the victim, and the comments I deleted made it clear who that victim was. It's true that AP didn't include the name of the perpetrator, but she had been identified in numerous earlier stories, so that didn't really help. In our case, we want to keep the name of the perpetrator public - after all, she should NOT be shielded from public ignominy; she is a criminal, big time. Her victim is another story.

Not sure why they would leave that comment in the comments if they wanted to keep the identity secret. Also they seem to not know that even indirectly referencing earlier stories means you can look up the information on the internet.
 
2013-01-14 08:04:38 AM

BronyMedic: UCFRoadWarrior: not have been a formal employee of the ADF....

The SPKKKLC once again takes a marginal person aligned with some Christian group and tries to link their perverted deviance to that group....

Of course, they will never mention that Morris Dees, founder of the SPKKLC, is a notorious sexual harasser who has had numerous complaints about him from the SPKKKLC staff.

The SPKKKLC is nothing more than a hate group....who uses minorities and special interest groups to sue whites and groups led by white folks. Although they will list a group like the New Black Panthers (The Black KKK) as a "hate group"....they will never sue that group because it is black.

I have you noted as "Racist". I'm glad to see you still promote the white pride taking points.


He's awful bitter about the SPLC for some reason... Maybe he's a former member of the Aryan Nations and no longer has a summer camp to go to and play soldier in the woods with his other shiat-kicking, neanderthal friends?
 
2013-01-14 08:10:05 AM
Gee, there's no mention of this at all on freerepublic.com


Isn't that strange?
 
2013-01-14 08:15:46 AM

Jake Havechek: Gee, there's no mention of this at all on freerepublic.com


Isn't that strange?


That would be mentioning unpersons, and that's double-plus ungood.
 
2013-01-14 08:17:46 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: Fluorescent Testicle: It seems to be the other way around - there's something inherent in people who happen to be hypocrites and paedophiles that draws them towards Christianity.

Or perhaps something inherent in the way that modern Christianity is run that makes it attractive to people who happen to be hypocrites and paedophiles already? This would be a fascinating scientific study, actually, if it could be done without setting off the "We're being oppressed!" crowd.


I think its the "we're being oppressed" mindset that attracts them in the first place; if you're accused of something, you can play the victim card.

Also, many people seem to interpret Christian forgiveness as "I can do anything I want, and as long as I pray for forgiveness, its ok within this community."
 
2013-01-14 08:30:50 AM
 
2013-01-14 08:59:20 AM
The Arizona-based ADF calls itself a "servant ministry"

Read that as "Service Monkey"
 
2013-01-14 09:06:07 AM
The way most churches are structured, with an important male leader as the head of a flock of many families, attracts those with an interest in sexual exploitation. You want easy access to a bunch of potential victims who automatically are taught to trust you and believe whatever you say, become the head of a church. That you can then twist religious teachings to support your sexual exploitation is just a bonus. Every major Cristian sect has had a sexual scandal, and even the non-Christian ones like the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses. (That's a joke, son.) The Catholic church especially had it bad back in the day because of their restriction of the priesthood to non-married men, and the church's way to moving priest from church to church after a certain number of years. Always fresh victims to exploit.
 
2013-01-14 09:39:53 AM

randomjsa: ...I feel the need to add something intelligent.


When do you plan to start? I'd like to be around for that.
 
2013-01-14 09:42:36 AM

EngineerAU: catmandu: Where does TFA say that the girl was her daughter?

The Southern Poverty Law Center is trying to protect the identity of the victim by not mentioning that she is the woman's daughter since that would make it the identity quite obvious.


According to some of the comments, there may have been a wire service article that indicated the victim was the lawyers' daughter. They made the decision to redact that detail regardless of whether it appeared in other articles on the basis of their policy of not identifying victims.
 
2013-01-14 09:50:04 AM

Lochsteppe: James F. Campbell: Lochsteppe: So what kind of horrible perverted Blue-Velveteen act is this a euphemism for?

You know that saying, "They're all pink on the inside"? It's true for Dubble Bubble, too.

Ah yes. Hubbabubbaphilia. Well, just remember Dan Savage's 3 G's: as a lover, be Good, Giving, and Gum.


*snerk* Brilliant. I laughed out loud in my cube and had to share with the other programmers.
(While carefully keeping the original subject quiet because one is a pretty nice guy that believes that bad-Christian stories are cherry-picked and embellished)
 
2013-01-14 09:54:53 AM

COMALite J: Gyrfalcon: platedlizard: Mangoose: Do you actually believe that child molesters have a harder time in prison than a burglar?

Not only that, she'll be going to a woman's prison, and women's prisons generally have a much lower rate of violence than men's prisons.

In women's prisons, child molesters and child abusers get the shiat kicked out of them. Although the violence is lower overall than in men's prisons, the one thing you don't want to be is a woman who abused kids, surrounded by other women who desperately miss their own kids.

Source: my friend the CO, who assures me that he sees what happens to child molesters in his own prison, and knows that it's a lot worse in the women's place.

Didn't Susan Smith (the woman who drowned her two young sons by locking them in a car, putting something heavy on the gas pedal, and aiming it towards a lake; then blamed it on a black man and nearly started race riots some decades ago) get beat up daily in prison, and then had the gall to ask what she'd done to deserve that?


No, but she did catch the clap from farking a guard there - Link
 
2013-01-14 10:17:34 AM

Weaver95: but homosexuals are the immoral ones, right?  yeesh...


Yeah, right-wingers don't understand the term 'hypocrisy'; if they did, they'd realize that most of their ideology is full of horse manure.
 
2013-01-14 10:23:19 AM
Repression breeds perversion.
 
2013-01-14 10:56:12 AM

Mangoose: Using this shiatbird as a validation in the further dispute mentioned here is like saying all black people are criminals because one robbed you.


There's no hypocrisy in robbing, unless the robber got elected on a "tough on crime" platform.
 
2013-01-14 11:00:24 AM

RyogaM: The Catholic church especially had it bad back in the day because of their restriction of the priesthood to non-married men


Not unimportant. If you try to ban something that's really good, like sex or booze, it will result in consumers and 'producers' without self control. Look at these anti-gay freaks.
 
2013-01-14 11:08:16 AM

baka-san: Bathia_Mapes: She was raped

But was it literal rape?


She didn't get preggerred. So maybe.
 
2013-01-14 11:53:06 AM

wambu: So a pretentious, sanctimonious lawyer has no morals? This in news how?


No need to be redundant.
 
2013-01-14 02:02:05 PM

rynthetyn: Proof once again that the people who scream the loudest about how gays are pedophiles are the ones you need to watch out for the most. This one takes the cake as far as disgusting and perverted though. That poor daughter is going to need decades of therapy.


I'm to the point where the very MOMENT I hear a parent biatching about 'teh gheys' I immediately watch their kid more closely for signs of abuse. Seriously, if you whine about gay rights or gay people in the negative, I am going to assume that your kid is a victim of either sexual, physical or emotional abuse, and considering what I do, I'm not only bound by law to report any suspicion or findings, but if there's any evidence on a computer or smartphone that's been in contact with the school's network, you bet your ass it's going straight to the police.

And having talked to other teachers, this is a surprisingly good standard-operating-procedure. You don't want to know what some of the "God-fearing Christian" parents in small, rural towns do to their children. The dad who biatched in a school board meeting when $1K of the $35K intended for the football team was allotted to the drama club turned out to have been raping his son, the woman who didn't want gay and lesbian safe-sex practices included in health class was molesting her daughter and filming it...it's pretty much a tautology: If anti-gay, most likely raping kid.

As for how I'd catch such a person, well...kids in public schools have NO expectation of privacy on the school network, and while I'm really uncomfortable with the implications of being able and encouraged to scan a teenager's laptop for pretty much whatever the district wants me to look for, if it means I can turn over the evidence of a kid-raping pedophile to the police, I'll trade my own conscience for a kid's safety. Hard luck on the kids that their school hired an ex-hacker from I.T. to long-term-sub a couple classes, but considering I've already helped put one dirtbag in PMITA and get two kids into a safe foster home and some counseling, I think I can live with the implicitly unfair lack of privacy for minor citizens. For now.
 
2013-01-14 03:03:32 PM

Ooba Tooba: Poor kid. I'm betting she won't be the religious type when she grows up. Mother needs life in prison.


see? every cloud has a silver lining.
 
2013-01-14 03:22:55 PM

qorkfiend: Also, many people seem to interpret Christian forgiveness as "I can do anything I want, and as long as I pray for forgiveness, its ok within this community."


Which is funny to remember when these same Christians accuse me of only being an atheist because I don't want to face God's wrath for whatever degenerate behavior they imagine I'm doing.
 
2013-01-14 04:05:10 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: wambu: So a pretentious, sanctimonious lawyer has no morals? This in news how?

No need to be redundant.


Come on, you can never be too hateful to lawyers and besides, mere volumes of words can never adequately describe tjhe magnitude of their douchiness.
 
2013-01-15 08:23:39 AM

giftedmadness: JesusJuice: I literally can no longer think of Christianity without thinking of pedophilia. Xians just skeeve me out at this point. Never hear about Atheists doing this shiat.

Probably because they make up 2% of the population. Also, journalists rarely point out if a sex offender is atheist, it's more sensational to mention their religion if they have one.


Atheists generally don't create social infrastructures based on "faith" and discourage people from thinking about the world critically, either.

Pedophiles are pretty good at taking advantage of churches mostly because they've been doing it for centuries (and only within recent history called upon it), and are further enabled by Christianity's emphasis on how people should be "like a lamb to the Lord". There just isn't the opportunity within the "atheist community" (as unorganized as it is) for pedophiles to find ripe victims.

This calls upon Christians to do something more strenuous than praying and tossing blame to/demonizing people they don't like so of course people like you are remiss to do the critical soul searching to stop supporting scumbags who happen pray just hard enough in front of the rest of the congregation during services/masses/etc.

Stop being such easy marks already.
 
2013-01-15 09:39:06 AM

SpiderQueenDemon: rynthetyn: Proof once again that the people who scream the loudest about how gays are pedophiles are the ones you need to watch out for the most. This one takes the cake as far as disgusting and perverted though. That poor daughter is going to need decades of therapy.

I'm to the point where the very MOMENT I hear a parent biatching about 'teh gheys' I immediately watch their kid more closely for signs of abuse. Seriously, if you whine about gay rights or gay people in the negative, I am going to assume that your kid is a victim of either sexual, physical or emotional abuse, and considering what I do, I'm not only bound by law to report any suspicion or findings, but if there's any evidence on a computer or smartphone that's been in contact with the school's network, you bet your ass it's going straight to the police.

And having talked to other teachers, this is a surprisingly good standard-operating-procedure. You don't want to know what some of the "God-fearing Christian" parents in small, rural towns do to their children. The dad who biatched in a school board meeting when $1K of the $35K intended for the football team was allotted to the drama club turned out to have been raping his son, the woman who didn't want gay and lesbian safe-sex practices included in health class was molesting her daughter and filming it...it's pretty much a tautology: If anti-gay, most likely raping kid.

As for how I'd catch such a person, well...kids in public schools have NO expectation of privacy on the school network, and while I'm really uncomfortable with the implications of being able and encouraged to scan a teenager's laptop for pretty much whatever the district wants me to look for, if it means I can turn over the evidence of a kid-raping pedophile to the police, I'll trade my own conscience for a kid's safety. Hard luck on the kids that their school hired an ex-hacker from I.T. to long-term-sub a couple classes, but considering I've already helped put one dirtbag in PMITA ...


Comfort yourself in knowing that if you are using an internet connection you aren't paying for, you have no reasonable expectation for online privacy. You have little to nothing to feel shame over.

Kids gotta learn about this and how unsecure WiFi tends to be some time.
/more of an IT tech than hacker
 
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