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(Southern Poverty Law Center)   What does an anti-gay lawyer do when not defending the traditional family? For one lawyer, it's creating child porn involving herself and two other men   (splcenter.org) divider line 176
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2013-01-14 01:41:02 AM  

Weaver95: James F. Campbell: Are Christians in some kind of competition I haven't heard about to see who can be the most hypocritical?

its weird, isn't it?  most of the christian organizations here in the US seem to either pay lip service to their beliefs or set out to deliberately twist and pervert their own ideology.  lies, hypocrisy, lust for power and control...money, sex, rampant greed.  plus the occasional drug use that seems to be sprinkled on top for flavor.  lots there to despise.  But you can't point any of this out to the rank and file.  they don't believe their leaders are corrupt.  at best, they'll abandon one leader who's been caught doing something bad and simply move down the line to the next one who's waiting to take over control of 'gods message' and keep right on truckin with the same exact message as before.


Most are like this? Wtf....
 
2013-01-14 01:45:26 AM  

JesusJuice: I literally can no longer think of Christianity without thinking of pedophilia. Xians just skeeve me out at this point. Never hear about Atheists doing this shiat.


Probably because they make up 2% of the population. Also, journalists rarely point out if a sex offender is atheist, it's more sensational to mention their religion if they have one.
 
2013-01-14 01:52:23 AM  

Mangoose: Do you actually believe that child molesters have a harder time in prison than a burglar?


You really are ignorant.

My father and brothers have all spent time in San Q.

I assure you that child molesters have a harder time in prison than a burglar. It isn't a myth.
 
2013-01-14 01:55:59 AM  

rynthetyn: Proof once again that the people who scream the loudest about how gays are pedophiles are the ones you need to watch out for the most. This one takes the cake as far as disgusting and perverted though. That poor daughter is going to need decades of therapy.


Link
 
2013-01-14 01:57:18 AM  

jst3p: My father and brothers have all spent time in San Q.


remind me to never piss you off.
 
2013-01-14 02:01:23 AM  
I wonder if she realized while she was doing it that nomming her own daughter's coot is... kinda gay.
 
2013-01-14 02:01:49 AM  

log_jammin: FormlessOne: Hire a lawyer that doesn't have a taste for little girls?

no really. That girl is going to be farked up for the rest of her life. The one person in the world that you're supposed to be able to trust, her own mother, just...wow.


Won't get any arguments from me. Untangling that psychological mess is going to keep both lawyers and therapists in Ferrari money for some time.
 
2013-01-14 02:02:00 AM  
Hey look, another name for the ignore list.
 
2013-01-14 02:03:17 AM  

log_jammin: jst3p: My father and brothers have all spent time in San Q.

remind me to never piss you off.


Cool story bro time:

One brother and my father were there at the same time, but for different offenses. They got to share a cell. I was kind of surprised, for some reason I thought they wouldn't allow it but according to them anything they can give then later take away is a tool to encourage compliance and good behavior.

Even cooler story, both brothers and my dad turned their lives around and are all doing well today. My dad is even going to do some legal mumbo jumbo that amounts to getting his record cleared by the Governor because he has spent "x" years with a clean record and working as a productive member of society. I am not sure of the details but I am proud of them all.
 
2013-01-14 02:05:55 AM  
Why couldn't she also be a Phelps from Topeka?
 
2013-01-14 02:12:30 AM  

propasaurus: Hey look, another name for the ignore list.


Just ignore people you disagree with, don't debate them or offer them guidance in the right direction.
 
2013-01-14 02:14:01 AM  

jst3p: Even cooler story, both brothers and my dad turned their lives around and are all doing well today. My dad is even going to do some legal mumbo jumbo that amounts to getting his record cleared by the Governor because he has spent "x" years with a clean record and working as a productive member of society. I am not sure of the details but I am proud of them all.


That's awesome man. not many people manage to do that.
 
2013-01-14 02:16:53 AM  

jst3p: Even cooler story, both brothers and my dad turned their lives around and are all doing well today. My dad is even going to do some legal mumbo jumbo that amounts to getting his record cleared by the Governor because he has spent "x" years with a clean record and working as a productive member of society. I am not sure of the details but I am proud of them all.


That is awesome. And I'm not just saying that as random internet kudos, I genuinely mean it.
 
2013-01-14 02:18:24 AM  

WhyteRaven74: That is awesome. And I'm not just saying that as random internet kudos, I genuinely mean it.


great. not it looks like I gave "random internet kudos". thanks a lot.

jerk...
 
2013-01-14 02:21:42 AM  
log_jammin: WhyteRaven74:

It really is awesome, It is funny they all admire me for staying out of trouble and leading a "normal, boring, killer life" (their words) and I admire them for the lives they live now.

We have very interesting family get-togethers and none of us would change a thing.
 
2013-01-14 02:22:35 AM  
99% of lawyers make the other 1% look bad.
 
2013-01-14 02:25:40 AM  

log_jammin: WhyteRaven74: That is awesome. And I'm not just saying that as random internet kudos, I genuinely mean it.

great. not it looks like I gave "random internet kudos". thanks a lot.

jerk...


Your awesome ran free for only a moment, then... YOINK!
 
2013-01-14 02:26:01 AM  
Sgt Otter: MisterTweak: Gyrfalcon: I like this part:

In the wake of Biron's arrest, the ADF removed all mentions of her from its website and Facebook page, and in a November CBS News report said that Biron was never an employee. The group has released no further statements on Biron. According to the LGBT blog Joe.My.God., the group continued to remove mentions of her from its Facebook page yesterday and banned anyone who posted anything about her.

Nope, never heard of her, nobody knows her, she never did anything for us, doesn't even exist, nope, not from around here, nosir, not one of ours!

These guys sound as resistant to criticism as Stormfront. Only with less balls.

when you've bet your reputation on a horrendously stupid idea, you often need to re-create reality around whatever facts you're given at the moment. Bigots have to do this a lot.

We had an incredibly obnoxious, pro-war, embedded reporter with my unit in Iraq, named Matt Sanchez, who was the darling of Fox News and the rest of the right-wing media, particularly of the most vocal chickenhawk bloggers.

It was later revealed that he used to work as a male prostitute and gay porn star.

The "Matt who? Never heard of him, and we've certainly never re-blogged any of his articles. Isn't he the quarterback for the Jets?" reaction was similar.


tee-hee...he has a wiki page. In the early 1990s, Sanchez performed in Pierre La Branche and Rod Majors.[2][4] However, in a 2007 interview, Sanchez commented that "I don't like porn, it reduces the mind, flattens the soul" and that he considers his pornographic career an identity outgrown.[3][14] [23]

I remember the guy now. He didn't get the amount of attention Jeff Gannon did... that's for sure.
 
2013-01-14 02:27:27 AM  

jst3p: log_jammin: jst3p: My father and brothers have all spent time in San Q.

remind me to never piss you off.

Cool story bro time:

One brother and my father were there at the same time, but for different offenses. They got to share a cell. I was kind of surprised, for some reason I thought they wouldn't allow it but according to them anything they can give then later take away is a tool to encourage compliance and good behavior.

Even cooler story, both brothers and my dad turned their lives around and are all doing well today. My dad is even going to do some legal mumbo jumbo that amounts to getting his record cleared by the Governor because he has spent "x" years with a clean record and working as a productive member of society. I am not sure of the details but I am proud of them all.


I am very glad to hear it; I know the odds are stacked pretty bad against people in that situation.

You bring up a really good point that's too often overlooked - that minor privileges (television, visits, recreation) are incredibly valuable in keeping prisons safe for both the inmates and the employees - this is too often overlooked by people suffering poutrage that an inmate with an excellent record and coming close to being released back into society, might just need some experience and practice being in people in a non-prison setting.
 
2013-01-14 02:30:47 AM  

Notabunny: Your awesome ran free for only a moment, then... YOINK!


Ha!
 
2013-01-14 02:34:49 AM  

MisterTweak: You bring up a really good point that's too often overlooked - that minor privileges (television, visits, recreation) are incredibly valuable in keeping prisons safe for both the inmates and the employees


Yeah, I have never been but whenever I hear (more often read) some one say "cable in prison? fark that!" it makes me feel stabby. I was on the paying end of many collect calls from prison and damn... it sucks, as it should, but if you treat people like animals that is how they will behave. It is best for all involved to provide some minor comforts that can be removed.
 
2013-01-14 02:35:37 AM  

jst3p: We have very interesting family get-togethers and none of us would change a thing.


I can imagine you do.

log_jammin: jerk...


*snerk*
 
2013-01-14 02:55:55 AM  
So... a virulently anti-gay Republican was not only gay themselves, but also incestuous AND pedophilic?

The party of family values.
Who was it that was admonishing me for making fun of Republicans being gay a few weeks ago? No comment this time, eh?
 
2013-01-14 03:29:13 AM  

giftedmadness: JesusJuice: I literally can no longer think of Christianity without thinking of pedophilia. Xians just skeeve me out at this point. Never hear about Atheists doing this shiat.

Probably because they make up 2% of the population. Also, journalists rarely point out if a sex offender is atheist, it's more sensational to mention their religion if they have one.


So nobody's allowed to connect religion to pedophilia but it's ok to call all gays pedophiles?

Hooray for scapegoats.
 
2013-01-14 03:40:12 AM  

propasaurus: Hey look, another name for the ignore list.


It's the people (and I use that term loosely) who troll threads like this one that especially disgust me.
 
2013-01-14 03:48:22 AM  

The Name: I dunno. That still comes close to arguing that there's something inherent in Christianity that makes people hypocrites and pedophiles, which is just more hyperbole and lazy thinking.


It seems to be the other way around - there's something inherent in people who happen to be hypocrites and paedophiles that draws them towards Christianity. Certainly, not every paedo is a Christian and very few Christians are paedos, but there is absolutely a link there, particularly in the higher tiers of the religion, and denying it (not that you are, but Christians in general do) is nothing but willful blindness.
 
2013-01-14 03:58:34 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle: It seems to be the other way around - there's something inherent in people who happen to be hypocrites and paedophiles that draws them towards Christianity.


Or perhaps something inherent in the way that modern Christianity is run that makes it attractive to people who happen to be hypocrites and paedophiles already? This would be a fascinating scientific study, actually, if it could be done without setting off the "We're being oppressed!" crowd.
 
2013-01-14 04:15:13 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle: Or perhaps something inherent in the way that modern Christianity is run that makes it attractive to people who happen to be hypocrites and paedophiles already?


I'd say it has more to due with the personality types that are driven to power. doesn't matter if that position is the church, government, or the new VP of widget production.
 
2013-01-14 04:29:24 AM  
Oh my. In this case the egregious hypocrisy is actually the least offensive thing about it.
 
2013-01-14 04:35:54 AM  
You Social Cons are some kinky MoFo's... I've been going to all the wrong parties.
 
2013-01-14 04:44:16 AM  

Craptastic: Do you ever think to yourself "Maybe I have nothing to add to this thread"?


Sure.

But then I see responses as poor as yours and then I feel the need to add something intelligent.
 
2013-01-14 04:55:22 AM  

randomjsa: Craptastic: Do you ever think to yourself "Maybe I have nothing to add to this thread"?

Sure.

But then I see responses as poor as yours and then I feel the need to add something intelligent.


So why do you post?
 
2013-01-14 05:03:50 AM  

Gyrfalcon: So why do you post?


Because he's a self-admitted troll, and that's what self-admitted trolls do. :P
 
2013-01-14 05:14:39 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle: The Name: I dunno. That still comes close to arguing that there's something inherent in Christianity that makes people hypocrites and pedophiles, which is just more hyperbole and lazy thinking.

It seems to be the other way around - there's something inherent in people who happen to be hypocrites and paedophiles that draws them towards Christianity. Certainly, not every paedo is a Christian and very few Christians are paedos, but there is absolutely a link there, particularly in the higher tiers of the religion, and denying it (not that you are, but Christians in general do) is nothing but willful blindness.


its not the religion per se. im sure this same phenomenon is everywhere with every religion.

its a larger issue. When people are conflicted about something and are self hating on this level, they keep thinking to themselves "i must RESIST this, i must resist, indeed, i need to become a priest to attain the purity and cleans my soul of this sin!" and then they snap, rape an altar boy, then redouble their efforts to cleanse their soul with the help of god or whatever until they reoffend. or do meth with a rentboy in a hotel like ted haggard. or whatever the jewish/muslim equivalent would be.

basically when people are actively repressing urges they tend to over compensate. this is why so many ghey bashers are closet ghey, why so many people who are the oudest against something get busted in a parking lot with it with their pants down.
 
2013-01-14 05:16:01 AM  
Biron, who claimed on her Facebook page (which was taken down, according to the Concord Monitor) that the Bible was her favorite book

Well, I guess selling your daughter off is condoned in the bible, so she isn't really contradicting herself. Also 14 was a proper age for marrying off your child in olden days... actually you were suppose to marry them off around 12, but 14 wasn't horribly old. So she's also okay there. Where she runs into problems with the bible is :

She also allegedly made a cellphone video of herself having sex with the girl.

That is a problem. You can marry off your child, you can sell off your child, but you can't have sex with your child in the bible. She should know that. Also two men? That's another problem, sodomy is illegal according to the Bible, so unless they were taking turns, she' violated in that instance as well.

It seems she doesn't like the Bible as much as she claims.
 
2013-01-14 05:33:41 AM  

randomjsa: Craptastic: Do you ever think to yourself "Maybe I have nothing to add to this thread"?

Sure.

But then I see responses as poor as yours and then I feel the need to add something intelligent.


Your random spurts of jism are not intelligent on their own, buddy.
 
2013-01-14 06:06:56 AM  
These Democrat-types set out to infiltrate groups like this for the purpose of subterfuge. Keep an eye on this one and see who it is working for her release from prison. You'll find Soros money behind it.
 
2013-01-14 06:11:51 AM  

Noam Chimpsky: These Democrat-types set out to infiltrate groups like this for the purpose of subterfuge. Keep an eye on this one and see who it is working for her release from prison. You'll find Soros money behind it.


That's [ Funny ]

You're [ Funny ]
 
2013-01-14 06:37:16 AM  

UCFRoadWarrior: not have been a formal employee of the ADF....

The SPKKKLC once again takes a marginal person aligned with some Christian group and tries to link their perverted deviance to that group....

Of course, they will never mention that Morris Dees, founder of the SPKKLC, is a notorious sexual harasser who has had numerous complaints about him from the SPKKKLC staff.

The SPKKKLC is nothing more than a hate group....who uses minorities and special interest groups to sue whites and groups led by white folks. Although they will list a group like the New Black Panthers (The Black KKK) as a "hate group"....they will never sue that group because it is black.


You mean like how this "Christian" group tried to paint the picture that all homosexuals are deviant child predators? It hurts when someone bites back, doesn't it?
 
2013-01-14 06:42:16 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle: Fluorescent Testicle: It seems to be the other way around - there's something inherent in people who happen to be hypocrites and paedophiles that draws them towards Christianity.

Or perhaps something inherent in the way that modern Christianity is run that makes it attractive to people who happen to be hypocrites and paedophiles already? This would be a fascinating scientific study, actually, if it could be done without setting off the "We're being oppressed!" crowd.


I would have thought that a politically powerful organisation that has a history of enabling and covering up for paedophiles is pretty much the number one choice for employer with paedophiles.
 
2013-01-14 06:49:23 AM  

tuckeg: "For one lawyer, it's creating child porn involving herself and two other men"

So the lawyer is a man?


I was just curious what part of that was considered "child pornography" until I R'dTFA.  Good job, subby, leaving out the important information.
 
2013-01-14 06:51:26 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: HER OWN DAUGHTER


Was TFA edited to protect the victim or something?  Don't see that detail in there right now.
 
2013-01-14 06:53:20 AM  
Excuse me, dumbmitter, but there's nothing in the Bible that says you can't videotape two men having sex with a 14-year-old.
 
2013-01-14 06:56:30 AM  

Arkanaut: Excuse me, dumbmitter, but there's nothing in the Bible that says you can't videotape two men having sex with a 14-year-old.


Well, if it was individual encounters with each man on separate occasions, I think she would have to marry the first one and then be guilty of adultery.  But if it was both guys at the same time, yeah I think the bible is ok with that as long as their balls don't touch.
 
2013-01-14 06:56:37 AM  

serial_crusher: Benevolent Misanthrope: HER OWN DAUGHTER

Was TFA edited to protect the victim or something?  Don't see that detail in there right now.


Yes. Read the comments of TFA, there are comments from the mods about having edited comments that exposed the victim's identity, because while perpatrators should be exposed, victims should be protected.

The specific perpatrator / victim connection in this case makes that protection more difficult, which is why it wasn't highlighted in the article
 
2013-01-14 07:13:34 AM  
Sometime it's nice knowing other people will respond with harsher punishment than I feel pertinent in society. A person like this deserves terrible, terrible things to happen to her.
 
2013-01-14 07:20:22 AM  

baka-san: Bathia_Mapes: She was raped

But was it literal rape?


Yes but not legitimate rape.
 
2013-01-14 07:32:42 AM  

UCFRoadWarrior: not have been a formal employee of the ADF....

The SPKKKLC once again takes a marginal person aligned with some Christian group and tries to link their perverted deviance to that group....

Of course, they will never mention that Morris Dees, founder of the SPKKLC, is a notorious sexual harasser who has had numerous complaints about him from the SPKKKLC staff.

The SPKKKLC is nothing more than a hate group....who uses minorities and special interest groups to sue whites and groups led by white folks. Although they will list a group like the New Black Panthers (The Black KKK) as a "hate group"....they will never sue that group because it is black.


I have you noted as "Racist". I'm glad to see you still promote the white pride taking points.
 
2013-01-14 07:43:23 AM  
Disgusting...

And these hypocritical assholes have the balls to call homosexuals immoral.
 
2013-01-14 07:52:19 AM  

Gyrfalcon: In the wake of Biron's arrest, the ADF removed all mentions of her from its website and Facebook page, and in a November CBS News report said that Biron was never an employee. The group has released no further statements on Biron. According to the LGBT blog Joe.My.God., the group continued to remove mentions of her from its Facebook page yesterday and banned anyone who posted anything about her.


farm3.staticflickr.com

How much you want to bet they're all virulently anti-communist too?
 
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