Was there also a donkey? Or a midget? Did they use one of those dildos shaped like baby geezus?

Animatronik: This lawyer worked for a Christian political group and had gay sex with a child. I submit that this does not reflect badly on gays or Christians, but...

....most definitely lawyers women. Yes, a surprising number of lawyers women have been in the news as child predators. If we could do something about them it might put a dent in our pedophile problem. Or not, for ppl lacking a sense of irony.

FTFY

What's the difference between a catfish and a lawyer?

One is a scum sucking bottom feeder...

The other is a fish...

/my lawyer loves this joke

James F. Campbell: Weaver95: James F. Campbell: Are Christians in some kind of competition I haven't heard about to see who can be the most hypocritical?

its weird, isn't it?  most of the christian organizations here in the US seem to either pay lip service to their beliefs or set out to deliberately twist and pervert their own ideology.  lies, hypocrisy, lust for power and control...money, sex, rampant greed.  plus the occasional drug use that seems to be sprinkled on top for flavor.  lots there to despise.  But you can't point any of this out to the rank and file.  they don't believe their leaders are corrupt.  at best, they'll abandon one leader who's been caught doing something bad and simply move down the line to the next one who's waiting to take over control of 'gods message' and keep right on truckin with the same exact message as before.

Meanwhile, as Christian leaders molest, well, everything, I feel like a bad person whenever I give in a little to my cravings for candy. The scope of evil we're dealing with here is just unfathomable, sometimes. And someone knew. I bet you a lot of someones knew and didn't do anything. Those people need to go to jail, too. Everyone who either actively covered up for her or knew and didn't tell anyone needs to go to jail.

So what kind of horrible perverted Blue-Velveteen act is this a euphemism for?

Mangoose: Do you actually believe that child molesters have a harder time in prison than a burglar?

Not only that, she'll be going to a woman's prison, and women's prisons generally have a much lower rate of violence than men's prisons.

Bathia_Mapes: FTA...a 14-year-old girl having sex with two men on multiple occasions.


No, the teen didn't have sex with the two men or the anti-gay lawyer. She was raped since the age of consent in NH is 16.

But it wasn't rape rape.

/window seat please

"For one lawyer, it's creating child porn involving herself and two other men"

So the lawyer is a man?

James F. Campbell: Are Christians in some kind of competition I haven't heard about to see who can be the most hypocritical?

It's only hypocritical if she doesn't demand fifty shekels of silver from the man.

Lochsteppe: So what kind of horrible perverted Blue-Velveteen act is this a euphemism for?

You know that saying, "They're all pink on the inside"? It's true for Dubble Bubble, too.

gingerjet: Bathia_Mapes: FTA...a 14-year-old girl having sex with two men on multiple occasions.


No, the teen didn't have sex with the two men or the anti-gay lawyer. She was raped since the age of consent in NH is 16.

But it wasn't rape rape.

/window seat please

Indications are it was also rape rape.

Benevolent Misanthrope: basemetal: [ct.fra.bz image 500x391] (Arrested for child pornography)

AND PERFORMING CUNNILINGUS ON HER OWN DAUGHTER.

Cthulhu knows I'm no friend of Christianity, but I gotta say - even with CHRISTIANS, I don't expect mothers to traffic in porn movies involving their 14 year old kid.  And certainly not films of them performing oral sex on their own children.

I don't know why I'm surprised, but I am.

I normally don't like this sort of talk about entire groups of people, not only because it is hyperbolic but also because Republicans have used it to great effect to malign liberals, and I like to think we're better than that.

That being said . . .

I really can't blame you for talking about Christians that way, because they sure as hell haven't done themselves any favors in the PR department over the past twenty years. Perhaps a little generalized demonizing will force them to pull their heads out of their asses eventually.

/doubt it

Gyrfalcon: platedlizard: Mangoose: Do you actually believe that child molesters have a harder time in prison than a burglar?

Not only that, she'll be going to a woman's prison, and women's prisons generally have a much lower rate of violence than men's prisons.

In women's prisons, child molesters and child abusers get the shiat kicked out of them. Although the violence is lower overall than in men's prisons, the one thing you don't want to be is a woman who abused kids, surrounded by other women who desperately miss their own kids.

Source: my friend the CO, who assures me that he sees what happens to child molesters in his own prison, and knows that it's a lot worse in the women's place.

Didn't Susan Smith (the woman who drowned her two young sons by locking them in a car, putting something heavy on the gas pedal, and aiming it towards a lake; then blamed it on a black man and nearly started race riots some decades ago) get beat up daily in prison, and then had the gall to ask what she'd done to deserve that?

Mangoose: Using this shiatbird as a validation in the further dispute mentioned here is like saying all black people are criminals because one robbed you.

Karac: Have fun going to a federal pen with not only child molester, but slaveowner on your rap sheet.

Do you actually believe that child molesters have a harder time in prison than a burglar?

A lot of criminals were molested as children.

MisterTweak: Until large churches disavow themselves of the actions of their more violent offspring, we can't really be sure, can we? I mean, what was that huge group of evangelicals that Reverend Buttsecks Mc Methdude was the president of? The guy in CO - haggard or something.

Haggard at least engage a male escort in consensual gay sex. This was beyond that.

That's pretty disgusting.

James F. Campbell: Lochsteppe: So what kind of horrible perverted Blue-Velveteen act is this a euphemism for?

You know that saying, "They're all pink on the inside"? It's true for Dubble Bubble, too.

Ah yes. Hubbabubbaphilia. Well, just remember Dan Savage's 3 G's: as a lover, be Good, Giving, and Gum.

Confessions if based on the headline you were sure this was going to be a man and the victim a boy...

Come on, fess up... How many you expected that before you clicked? I'll admit it.

MisterTweak: Sgt Otter: MisterTweak: Gyrfalcon: I like this part:

In the wake of Biron's arrest, the ADF removed all mentions of her from its website and Facebook page, and in a November CBS News report said that Biron was never an employee. The group has released no further statements on Biron. According to the LGBT blog Joe.My.God., the group continued to remove mentions of her from its Facebook page yesterday and banned anyone who posted anything about her.

Nope, never heard of her, nobody knows her, she never did anything for us, doesn't even exist, nope, not from around here, nosir, not one of ours!

These guys sound as resistant to criticism as Stormfront. Only with less balls.

when you've bet your reputation on a horrendously stupid idea, you often need to re-create reality around whatever facts you're given at the moment. Bigots have to do this a lot.

We had an incredibly obnoxious, pro-war, embedded reporter with my unit in Iraq, named Matt Sanchez, who was the darling of Fox News and the rest of the right-wing media, particularly of the most vocal chickenhawk bloggers.

It was later revealed that he used to work as a male prostitute and gay porn star.

The "Matt who? Never heard of him, and we've certainly never re-blogged any of his articles. Isn't he the quarterback for the Jets?" reaction was similar.

This wasn't the guy they used to give W softball questions in WH briefings, was it? I may have missed this one. I know, I know, the number seems to be absolutely limitless.

No, that was a different conservative douchebag journalist with a name similar to a second tier NFL qb (Jeff Gannon)

djkutch: Didn't Jesus hang out with men in robes and drink wine exclusively?

Yeah, I hear his blood alcohol content is about 12. Not .12, but 12.

not have been a formal employee of the ADF....

The SPKKKLC once again takes a marginal person aligned with some Christian group and tries to link their perverted deviance to that group....

Of course, they will never mention that Morris Dees, founder of the SPKKLC, is a notorious sexual harasser who has had numerous complaints about him from the SPKKKLC staff.

The SPKKKLC is nothing more than a hate group....who uses minorities and special interest groups to sue whites and groups led by white folks. Although they will list a group like the New Black Panthers (The Black KKK) as a "hate group"....they will never sue that group because it is black.

MisterTweak: It's kinda like some guy who always just happens to be standing around when a fire starts - once or twice, ok, maybe it's just coincidence. 650 or 700 times, you start to say, you know, I think maybe there's some connection here...

I dunno. That still comes close to arguing that there's something inherent in Christianity that makes people hypocrites and pedophiles, which is just more hyperbole and lazy thinking.

I'll go so far as to say that American Christians by and large have been derelict in responding to what's been going on among their coreligionists. By all means there should be some major outrage and a major movement towards reform and modernization within the faith.

The Name: I'll go so far as to say that American Christians by and large have been derelict in responding to what's been going on among their coreligionists. By all means there should be some major outrage and a major movement towards reform and modernization within the faith.

Precisely, and the organization's response to this event is typical of Christian organizations: instead of acknowledging the error, they simply try to pretend it never happened.

randomjsa: Confessions if based on the headline you were sure this was going to be a man and the victim a boy...

Come on, fess up... How many you expected that before you clicked? I'll admit it.

"involving herself" kind of precluded that.

Weaver95: but homosexuals are the immoral ones, right?  yeesh...

Always seems like the link between homosexuality and pedophilia is only through homophobes. They're like the Missing Link or something...

catmandu: Where does TFA say that the girl was her daughter?

The Southern Poverty Law Center is trying to protect the identity of the victim by not mentioning that she is the woman's daughter since that would make it the identity quite obvious.

nobodyUwannaknow: Was there also a donkey? Or a midget? Did they use one of those dildos shaped like baby geezus?

Dildo? No. This maybe:
baby jeebus butt plug

NSFW link opens in new window

UCFRoadWarrior: not have been a formal employee of the ADF....

The SPKKKLC once again takes a marginal person aligned with some Christian group and tries to link their perverted deviance to that group....

Of course, they will never mention that Morris Dees, founder of the SPKKLC, is a notorious sexual harasser who has had numerous complaints about him from the SPKKKLC staff.

The SPKKKLC is nothing more than a hate group....who uses minorities and special interest groups to sue whites and groups led by white folks. Although they will list a group like the New Black Panthers (The Black KKK) as a "hate group"....they will never sue that group because it is black.

So to attack the SPLC, you associate them with the KKK, splinter groups of which they have shut down with their lawsuits after the KKK assaulted minorities.

log_jammin: How does a kid recover from something like that?

Hire a lawyer that doesn't have a taste for little girls?

Ed Willy: So to attack the SPLC, you associate them with the KKK, splinter groups of which they have shut down with their lawsuits after the KKK assaulted minorities.

I don't know why you're even talking to that thing.

randomjsa: Confessions if based on the headline you were sure this was going to be a man and the victim a boy...

Come on, fess up... How many you expected that before you clicked? I'll admit it.

Do you ever think to yourself "Maybe I have nothing to add to this thread"?

AbbeySomeone: FTFA:... claim that homosexuality and pedophelia are "intrinsically linked"...

Well, it sounds like she knows something about this.

Actually she wasn't into pedophelia, she is apparently into ephebophilia. Huge difference.

/still messed up, just clarifying

I would have preferred a loving gay couple for parents rather than my miserable conventional parents. Get over it. Good parenting has nothing to do with sexual orientation.

UCFRoadWarrior: not have been a formal employee of the ADF....

The SPKKKLC once again takes a marginal person aligned with some Christian group and tries to link their perverted deviance to that group....

Of course, they will never mention that Morris Dees, founder of the SPKKLC, is a notorious sexual harasser who has had numerous complaints about him from the SPKKKLC staff.

The SPKKKLC is nothing more than a hate group....who uses minorities and special interest groups to sue whites and groups led by white folks. Although they will list a group like the New Black Panthers (The Black KKK) as a "hate group"....they will never sue that group because it is black.

Thanks for your thoughts, KKKRoadWarrior!