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(Las Vegas Review Journal)   PSA: If you lose your cellphone, don't go to this guy's house. HE DOESN'T HAVE IT   (lvrj.com) divider line 42
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2013-01-13 05:36:51 PM
5 votes:
Why doesn't this guy sue sprint in civil court? As far as I'm concerned, their software malfunction is putting his life in danger - the last thing an older guy needs is to be woken up at 3am and beaten up because someone thinks you stole their iPhone.

If he doesn't own that house (rents) then at the very least he should move. Good luck selling it now that this story is out, coz I'm sure people would love to move into a home with this problem...
2013-01-13 05:29:23 PM
5 votes:
Isn't there some lawyer who can shove this problem up the communication company's ass so hard it leaks 100's of thousands of dollars into the hands of that poor gentleman?
2013-01-13 05:29:06 PM
4 votes:

I_Hate_Iowa: Sue Sprint for every time someone shows up at his house after midnight or any time the cops show up. Every one of those could be argued as some sort of emotional distress bullshiat. I wouldn't care if I won as long as Sprint got the message each time it happened. If Sprint fixes the problem then the lawsuit problem also goes away.


Or press charges against the people trespassing on your property.

Seriously, these retards should not be taking the law into their own hands and harassing someone just because their iToy told them their phone was there.
2013-01-13 05:27:18 PM
4 votes:
If you're dumb enough to invade the yard of a North Las Vegas resident in the wee hours of the morning, not having a cell phone is the least of your worries.
2013-01-13 05:25:45 PM
4 votes:
"which has forced Dobson to sleep near his front door on weekends so he can answer the door quickly at all hours."

fark that, I'd turn the doorbell off and go to bed, let them knock all night for all I care.
2013-01-13 05:22:37 PM
4 votes:
"Technology pets." Awesome quote.
2013-01-13 06:06:40 PM
3 votes:
Six words: Motion activated water sprinkler with timer. Set it up outside the front door to activate between the hours from 11pm to 6am. Anybody who comes by between those hours will get drenched.
2013-01-13 05:32:43 PM
3 votes:
I work for a company that provides maps to 911 call centers. From my experience there, I know that if I had a family with kids, I would definitely have a land-line for 911 calls!

Generally cell calls hit 911 centers in two ways:

Phase 1: Weak signal, they know what cell tower or tower sector your phone is transmitting to. A large search area at best, assuming they have the cell sectors on their map and up to date (they change all the time). At worst, an poorly trained 911 operator thinks the address that is shown is the address of where you are, which is really the address of the cell tower.

Phase 2: Good signal, they get GPS coordinates of where you approximately are. However, it can be a fairly big area, especially if the signal is weaker. Some systems have a "confidence" value that puts a circle on the map, but this can get pretty big. Throw that in a shopping center or apartment complex and it can get hairy to find you.

So, if you call 911 from a cell phone, know where the Fark you are when you make the call. Landlines rock for 911 calls as they give the dispatcher the exact address. If the agency has been really proactive/acting like Big Brother, they know who lives there and if there is anything there that emergency personnel should know about.
2013-01-14 05:57:17 AM
2 votes:

mmonnens: So, if you call 911 from a cell phone, know where the Fark you are when you make the call.


Yeah, only have emergencies in places where you are familiar with the address!

Geez, people. Go get mugged in your part of town.

Anyway, this guy should start collecting old cell phones - I mean get a shiatload of them and fill up a couple of big trashcans with them. When these people knock on his door, point them in the direction of the trashcans and let them sort through a few thousand dead phones which aren't theirs trying to find their own.
2013-01-13 08:42:52 PM
2 votes:

KidneyStone: I'd answer the door with my Bushmaster AR15 Newtown model.


And be shot dead if it's the cops
2013-01-13 08:09:58 PM
2 votes:

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: serial_crusher: CSB: I had a situation when I first moved to Austin.  Looked up a bar on Google Maps, but the address only came up as "Austin, TX".  So, iPhone gave me directions to the geographical center of Austin, which was like 10 miles from where the actual bar was.

That wasn't a cool story. That was worse than a story about a bridge.


I got a kick since the same thing happened to me yesterday while trying to get my daughter to the hospital. Ended up at some random residential address. It's a good thing it wasn't an emergency or I would have been freaking out. Now I know to have confirmation of the location before that happens again. And I know where the hospital is now.
2013-01-13 06:03:58 PM
2 votes:
Never EVAR stay in room 1212 when in NYC or greater NY area. Too many dumb mofos forgetting to dial '9' first.
2013-01-13 05:42:23 PM
2 votes:
If I was this guy at the very least I'd move into a motel on the weekends.

I'm sure as hell not opening my door at 4 whatever in the AM...
2013-01-13 11:17:30 PM
1 votes:

TheMega: You would think, that after it became annoying/dangerous, he would get an attorney, file an outrageous lawsuit and they would suddenly figure out a way to "fix" it.... but, not before.


I'd put up with strangers knocking at my door for about a week. And who the hell are these people anyway? Do they think it's a good idea to just go over to some stranger's house and accuse them of theft, even in the middle of the night?
2013-01-13 08:15:16 PM
1 votes:

NutWrench: A lot of so-called "GPS enabled" phones don't actually have GPS antennas in them. They use a less accurate tracking system that either triangulates between cell phone towers or uses the information provided by a WiFi router (if the phone was connecting to the Internet through WiFi). I'm betting the cell phone thieves live very close to this guy's house.


No, the 911 calls aren't missing phones.
2013-01-13 08:01:45 PM
1 votes:

willfullyobscure: jaflasvegas: I_Hate_Iowa: Sue Sprint for every time someone shows up at his house after midnight or any time the cops show up. Every one of those could be argued as some sort of emotional distress bullshiat. I wouldn't care if I won as long as Sprint got the message each time it happened. If Sprint fixes the problem then the lawsuit problem also goes away.

I saw this on the news this morning. The problem here is that the city of north las vegas put the address of the tower at his house. It is a block away. Now they have to change the map which isnt easy with red tape. Sprint had nothing to do with it.

or it could been even stupider than I originally thought. GIGO strikes again


Genius. "We need an address for this tower."
"Howabout 123 Maple St."
"Does anyone live there?"
"Beats me."
"OK, that'll work. Let's have lunch."
2013-01-13 07:57:26 PM
1 votes:

SomethingToDo: So you could say that he's the triangulation man, triangulation man, does whatever triangulation can.


I think this is the clear winner.
2013-01-13 07:15:36 PM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com

These are not the phones you're seeking.
2013-01-13 07:10:54 PM
1 votes:

willfullyobscure: that is truly bizarre. I know how these systems work in great detail and I can't see how this is happening. the only thing I can think of is that some dummy hard coded location data in an individual router somewhere and it spits out this location under the right triggers.



It's as if it reaches a "don't know what else to do, here have a walrus" moment in its case logic.

Or his address is in an array somewhere and when it reaches that moment, it just spits that out instead of a proper "don't know".
2013-01-13 07:01:09 PM
1 votes:
This is what happens when humans let computers do their thinking for them. Buncha sheep!
2013-01-13 06:59:19 PM
1 votes:
The company should HAVE to relocate this guy, and put up some kind of open pavilion were his residence used to be.

Or fix the problem. I'm guessing it would probably cost the same amount of money to do either, and they probably would get a tax break because they're a huge unregulatable cell phone company.
2013-01-13 06:56:10 PM
1 votes:
Coon said Dobson's example is a good reason why people should have land lines in their homes.

So is he saying that if you had a landline, then your cell wouldn't get stolen, or Sprint's network wouldn't be broken?
2013-01-13 06:41:23 PM
1 votes:

I_Hate_Iowa: Sue Sprint for every time someone shows up at his house after midnight or any time the cops show up. Every one of those could be argued as some sort of emotional distress bullshiat. I wouldn't care if I won as long as Sprint got the message each time it happened. If Sprint fixes the problem then the lawsuit problem also goes away.


Or start stealing phones. The guy already has a documented explanation of why the stolen phone is being reported to be in his house.
2013-01-13 06:30:08 PM
1 votes:

Smgth: /srrsly tho, some crazy person shows up at my house at zero dark thirty ranting and raving, There Will Be Blood
//I will drink their milkshake!


Dunno about blood, but I guarantee you that I wouldn't answer the door at 2 am without a gun.

Arthur Jumbles: Six words: Motion activated water sprinkler with timer. Set it up outside the front door to activate between the hours from 11pm to 6am. Anybody who comes by between those hours will get drenched.


This is a good one.
2013-01-13 05:54:11 PM
1 votes:
FTA: "They might as well have said, 'Give me my horse back.'"

Seriously, though, the girl hadn't finished that year in college. She needed that horse.
2013-01-13 05:53:38 PM
1 votes:
People do some seriously stupid shiat when they track their lost/stolen phones....

That being said, should you ever have to call 911 from your cell, if you can only say one thing, give the address as specifically as possible.
Many centers no longer answer "911 what is your emergency" but "911 WHERE is your emergency?"

This backfires as well though as some people respond with some variation of "my house" or "in [town name]".
2013-01-13 05:42:51 PM
1 votes:

Spasticus Autisticus: Wonder how he might profit from this?


put small mail slot in door-> add sign that says deposit $20 or I will not answer the door. (or whatever amount)
2013-01-13 05:41:48 PM
1 votes:
Someone should do something about this!!!

Someone could get hurt!
2013-01-13 05:40:08 PM
1 votes:

jaflasvegas: I_Hate_Iowa: Sue Sprint for every time someone shows up at his house after midnight or any time the cops show up. Every one of those could be argued as some sort of emotional distress bullshiat. I wouldn't care if I won as long as Sprint got the message each time it happened. If Sprint fixes the problem then the lawsuit problem also goes away.

I saw this on the news this morning. The problem here is that the city of north las vegas put the address of the tower at his house. It is a block away. Now they have to change the map which isnt easy with red tape. Sprint had nothing to do with it.


Ohhhhhhhh. Why didn't they just say that?! Makes the whole problem a lot less ' strange exciting mystery' and a lot more 'boring mistake'...

/srrsly tho, some crazy person shows up at my house at zero dark thirty ranting and raving, There Will Be Blood
//I will drink their milkshake!
2013-01-13 05:38:38 PM
1 votes:

Spasticus Autisticus: Wonder how he might profit from this?


Start stealing cell phones?
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-13 05:38:30 PM
1 votes:
They now are going to flag any calls to Dobson's home, but they will still send officers to the scene unless they can confirm that there isn't actually a problem there.

Better than police in my area, who will keep responding without thinking about the last dozen times they went to take out a violent felon at that address only to learn the innocent family was the victim of a database error.
2013-01-13 05:38:11 PM
1 votes:

mmonnens:
So, if you call 911 from a cell phone, know where the Fark you are when you make the call. Landlines rock for 911 calls as they give the dispatcher the exact address. If the agency has been really proactive/acting like Big Brother, they know who lives there and if there is anything there that emergency personnel should know about.


No, call 911 first. Tell them what is going on and get the emergency vehicles dispatched. Then you can start discussing any discrepency in your location.
2013-01-13 05:38:06 PM
1 votes:
so at this point the dude could steal all the phones and he wanted and the police would just ignore it.

1. have sprint use your house as stolen phone starting point
2. start stealing phones
3. profit
2013-01-13 05:33:58 PM
1 votes:

Big Rock Star: "Technology pets." Awesome quote.


This.
2013-01-13 05:32:11 PM
1 votes:

jaflasvegas: I_Hate_Iowa: Sue Sprint for every time someone shows up at his house after midnight or any time the cops show up. Every one of those could be argued as some sort of emotional distress bullshiat. I wouldn't care if I won as long as Sprint got the message each time it happened. If Sprint fixes the problem then the lawsuit problem also goes away.

I saw this on the news this morning. The problem here is that the city of north las vegas put the address of the tower at his house. It is a block away. Now they have to change the map which isnt easy with red tape. Sprint had nothing to do with it.


or it could been even stupider than I originally thought. GIGO strikes again
2013-01-13 05:29:58 PM
1 votes:
that is truly bizarre. I know how these systems work in great detail and I can't see how this is happening. the only thing I can think of is that some dummy hard coded location data in an individual router somewhere and it spits out this location under the right triggers.
2013-01-13 05:29:57 PM
1 votes:

I_Hate_Iowa: Sue Sprint for every time someone shows up at his house after midnight or any time the cops show up. Every one of those could be argued as some sort of emotional distress bullshiat. I wouldn't care if I won as long as Sprint got the message each time it happened. If Sprint fixes the problem then the lawsuit problem also goes away.


I saw this on the news this morning. The problem here is that the city of north las vegas put the address of the tower at his house. It is a block away. Now they have to change the map which isnt easy with red tape. Sprint had nothing to do with it.
2013-01-13 05:28:59 PM
1 votes:
Minor and Levitan, who both testify as expert witnesses in civil and criminal cases, said they don't believe the problem is with the cell tower, which is close to Dobson's home. They both said the problem is more likely to be at Sprint's switchboard. A software problem is incorrectly translating coordinates to Dobson's house.

After dealing with Sprint Wireless at my office for years, this sounds like a completely plausible explanation.  What's even better is that they will never, ever, under any circumstances fix the problem until someone dies.
2013-01-13 05:23:51 PM
1 votes:
Wonder how he might profit from this?
2013-01-13 05:23:50 PM
1 votes:
Sue Sprint for every time someone shows up at his house after midnight or any time the cops show up. Every one of those could be argued as some sort of emotional distress bullshiat. I wouldn't care if I won as long as Sprint got the message each time it happened. If Sprint fixes the problem then the lawsuit problem also goes away.
2013-01-13 05:23:38 PM
1 votes:

serial_crusher: CSB: I had a situation when I first moved to Austin.  Looked up a bar on Google Maps, but the address only came up as "Austin, TX".  So, iPhone gave me directions to the geographical center of Austin, which was like 10 miles from where the actual bar was.


That wasn't a cool story. That was worse than a story about a bridge.
2013-01-13 05:22:41 PM
1 votes:
A lot of so-called "GPS enabled" phones don't actually have GPS antennas in them. They use a less accurate tracking system that either triangulates between cell phone towers or uses the information provided by a WiFi router (if the phone was connecting to the Internet through WiFi). I'm betting the cell phone thieves live very close to this guy's house.
 
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