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(Las Vegas Review Journal)   PSA: If you lose your cellphone, don't go to this guy's house. HE DOESN'T HAVE IT   (lvrj.com) divider line 108
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2013-01-13 04:16:18 PM  
My cellphone was stolen when the Greyhound from Miami to Austin stopped in Penisacola for a short stop. Apparently, as much as it was 18 hours away from Fort Lauderdale, it still was Florida and so I was Farked. No reports of it being at Mr. Dobson's when I called Sprint when the bus got to Mobile.
 
2013-01-13 05:19:49 PM  
Dude, I know you have my cell phone!
 
2013-01-13 05:22:33 PM  
CSB: I had a situation when I first moved to Austin.  Looked up a bar on Google Maps, but the address only came up as "Austin, TX".  So, iPhone gave me directions to the geographical center of Austin, which was like 10 miles from where the actual bar was.
 
2013-01-13 05:22:37 PM  
"Technology pets." Awesome quote.
 
2013-01-13 05:22:41 PM  
A lot of so-called "GPS enabled" phones don't actually have GPS antennas in them. They use a less accurate tracking system that either triangulates between cell phone towers or uses the information provided by a WiFi router (if the phone was connecting to the Internet through WiFi). I'm betting the cell phone thieves live very close to this guy's house.
 
2013-01-13 05:23:38 PM  

serial_crusher: CSB: I had a situation when I first moved to Austin.  Looked up a bar on Google Maps, but the address only came up as "Austin, TX".  So, iPhone gave me directions to the geographical center of Austin, which was like 10 miles from where the actual bar was.


That wasn't a cool story. That was worse than a story about a bridge.
 
2013-01-13 05:23:50 PM  
Sue Sprint for every time someone shows up at his house after midnight or any time the cops show up. Every one of those could be argued as some sort of emotional distress bullshiat. I wouldn't care if I won as long as Sprint got the message each time it happened. If Sprint fixes the problem then the lawsuit problem also goes away.
 
2013-01-13 05:23:51 PM  
Wonder how he might profit from this?
 
2013-01-13 05:24:48 PM  
So you could say that he's the triangulation man, triangulation man, does whatever triangulation can.
 
2013-01-13 05:25:20 PM  
That dude should ask the local Mormons to hang out near his place.

"Why, no, this fine man doesn't have your phone, but have you taken a moment to consider your eternal soul?"
 
2013-01-13 05:25:45 PM  
"which has forced Dobson to sleep near his front door on weekends so he can answer the door quickly at all hours."

fark that, I'd turn the doorbell off and go to bed, let them knock all night for all I care.
 
2013-01-13 05:27:18 PM  
If you're dumb enough to invade the yard of a North Las Vegas resident in the wee hours of the morning, not having a cell phone is the least of your worries.
 
2013-01-13 05:28:59 PM  
Minor and Levitan, who both testify as expert witnesses in civil and criminal cases, said they don't believe the problem is with the cell tower, which is close to Dobson's home. They both said the problem is more likely to be at Sprint's switchboard. A software problem is incorrectly translating coordinates to Dobson's house.

After dealing with Sprint Wireless at my office for years, this sounds like a completely plausible explanation.  What's even better is that they will never, ever, under any circumstances fix the problem until someone dies.
 
2013-01-13 05:29:06 PM  

I_Hate_Iowa: Sue Sprint for every time someone shows up at his house after midnight or any time the cops show up. Every one of those could be argued as some sort of emotional distress bullshiat. I wouldn't care if I won as long as Sprint got the message each time it happened. If Sprint fixes the problem then the lawsuit problem also goes away.


Or press charges against the people trespassing on your property.

Seriously, these retards should not be taking the law into their own hands and harassing someone just because their iToy told them their phone was there.
 
2013-01-13 05:29:23 PM  
Isn't there some lawyer who can shove this problem up the communication company's ass so hard it leaks 100's of thousands of dollars into the hands of that poor gentleman?
 
2013-01-13 05:29:57 PM  

I_Hate_Iowa: Sue Sprint for every time someone shows up at his house after midnight or any time the cops show up. Every one of those could be argued as some sort of emotional distress bullshiat. I wouldn't care if I won as long as Sprint got the message each time it happened. If Sprint fixes the problem then the lawsuit problem also goes away.


I saw this on the news this morning. The problem here is that the city of north las vegas put the address of the tower at his house. It is a block away. Now they have to change the map which isnt easy with red tape. Sprint had nothing to do with it.
 
2013-01-13 05:29:58 PM  
that is truly bizarre. I know how these systems work in great detail and I can't see how this is happening. the only thing I can think of is that some dummy hard coded location data in an individual router somewhere and it spits out this location under the right triggers.
 
2013-01-13 05:32:11 PM  

jaflasvegas: I_Hate_Iowa: Sue Sprint for every time someone shows up at his house after midnight or any time the cops show up. Every one of those could be argued as some sort of emotional distress bullshiat. I wouldn't care if I won as long as Sprint got the message each time it happened. If Sprint fixes the problem then the lawsuit problem also goes away.

I saw this on the news this morning. The problem here is that the city of north las vegas put the address of the tower at his house. It is a block away. Now they have to change the map which isnt easy with red tape. Sprint had nothing to do with it.


or it could been even stupider than I originally thought. GIGO strikes again
 
2013-01-13 05:32:43 PM  
I work for a company that provides maps to 911 call centers. From my experience there, I know that if I had a family with kids, I would definitely have a land-line for 911 calls!

Generally cell calls hit 911 centers in two ways:

Phase 1: Weak signal, they know what cell tower or tower sector your phone is transmitting to. A large search area at best, assuming they have the cell sectors on their map and up to date (they change all the time). At worst, an poorly trained 911 operator thinks the address that is shown is the address of where you are, which is really the address of the cell tower.

Phase 2: Good signal, they get GPS coordinates of where you approximately are. However, it can be a fairly big area, especially if the signal is weaker. Some systems have a "confidence" value that puts a circle on the map, but this can get pretty big. Throw that in a shopping center or apartment complex and it can get hairy to find you.

So, if you call 911 from a cell phone, know where the Fark you are when you make the call. Landlines rock for 911 calls as they give the dispatcher the exact address. If the agency has been really proactive/acting like Big Brother, they know who lives there and if there is anything there that emergency personnel should know about.
 
2013-01-13 05:33:58 PM  

Big Rock Star: "Technology pets." Awesome quote.


This.
 
2013-01-13 05:34:37 PM  
Sounds like somebody is using Apple Maps.
 
2013-01-13 05:35:31 PM  

serial_crusher: CSB: I had a situation when I first moved to Austin.  Looked up a bar on Google Maps, but the address only came up as "Austin, TX".  So, iPhone gave me directions to the geographical center of Austin, which was like 10 miles from where the actual bar was.


Are you trying to troll?
 
2013-01-13 05:35:45 PM  
What the cell?
 
2013-01-13 05:36:51 PM  
Why doesn't this guy sue sprint in civil court? As far as I'm concerned, their software malfunction is putting his life in danger - the last thing an older guy needs is to be woken up at 3am and beaten up because someone thinks you stole their iPhone.

If he doesn't own that house (rents) then at the very least he should move. Good luck selling it now that this story is out, coz I'm sure people would love to move into a home with this problem...
 
2013-01-13 05:37:43 PM  

stiletto_the_wise:

Or press charges against the people trespassing on your property.


Unless the land is posted, it's only trespassing if you refuse an order to leave.
 
2013-01-13 05:37:44 PM  
So when is the next generation GPS going to be launched? I seem to recall there was going to be one with accuracy down to a couple of inches and that would require much lower power on the receiver. Was that canceled?
 
2013-01-13 05:38:06 PM  
so at this point the dude could steal all the phones and he wanted and the police would just ignore it.

1. have sprint use your house as stolen phone starting point
2. start stealing phones
3. profit
 
2013-01-13 05:38:11 PM  

mmonnens:
So, if you call 911 from a cell phone, know where the Fark you are when you make the call. Landlines rock for 911 calls as they give the dispatcher the exact address. If the agency has been really proactive/acting like Big Brother, they know who lives there and if there is anything there that emergency personnel should know about.


No, call 911 first. Tell them what is going on and get the emergency vehicles dispatched. Then you can start discussing any discrepency in your location.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-13 05:38:30 PM  
They now are going to flag any calls to Dobson's home, but they will still send officers to the scene unless they can confirm that there isn't actually a problem there.

Better than police in my area, who will keep responding without thinking about the last dozen times they went to take out a violent felon at that address only to learn the innocent family was the victim of a database error.
 
2013-01-13 05:38:38 PM  

Spasticus Autisticus: Wonder how he might profit from this?


Start stealing cell phones?
 
2013-01-13 05:40:08 PM  

jaflasvegas: I_Hate_Iowa: Sue Sprint for every time someone shows up at his house after midnight or any time the cops show up. Every one of those could be argued as some sort of emotional distress bullshiat. I wouldn't care if I won as long as Sprint got the message each time it happened. If Sprint fixes the problem then the lawsuit problem also goes away.

I saw this on the news this morning. The problem here is that the city of north las vegas put the address of the tower at his house. It is a block away. Now they have to change the map which isnt easy with red tape. Sprint had nothing to do with it.


Ohhhhhhhh. Why didn't they just say that?! Makes the whole problem a lot less ' strange exciting mystery' and a lot more 'boring mistake'...

/srrsly tho, some crazy person shows up at my house at zero dark thirty ranting and raving, There Will Be Blood
//I will drink their milkshake!
 
2013-01-13 05:41:48 PM  
Someone should do something about this!!!

Someone could get hurt!
 
2013-01-13 05:42:23 PM  
If I was this guy at the very least I'd move into a motel on the weekends.

I'm sure as hell not opening my door at 4 whatever in the AM...
 
2013-01-13 05:42:51 PM  

Spasticus Autisticus: Wonder how he might profit from this?


put small mail slot in door-> add sign that says deposit $20 or I will not answer the door. (or whatever amount)
 
2013-01-13 05:44:29 PM  

Anal Tobacco Furnace: Are you trying to troll?


This does happen. I used to work for one of the biggest retailers in the country during a huge expansion phase. One of my jobs was to correct the placement of stores on our website. We were using MapQuest as out backend and if it couldn't find the address in its database, it would place the store in the population weighted center of the zip code... or if the zip code wasn't in the database, the population center of the city. Because most of our new stores were on the suburban fringe, quite often the streets didn't even exist in MapQuest's database. One time it placed a store on an airport runway. Another time in a lake. Most of the time it just showed up on the wrong street several miles away.

/The stores in Quebec were the worst because I couldn't call anyone at the store to ask where they were located
//Workers at other stores got a laugh out of someone from headquarters calling to ask for help in placing their store on the map
 
2013-01-13 05:49:28 PM  

EngineerAU: Anal Tobacco Furnace: Are you trying to troll?

This does happen. I used to work for one of the biggest retailers in the country during a huge expansion phase. One of my jobs was to correct the placement of stores on our website. We were using MapQuest as out backend and if it couldn't find the address in its database, it would place the store in the population weighted center of the zip code... or if the zip code wasn't in the database, the population center of the city. Because most of our new stores were on the suburban fringe, quite often the streets didn't even exist in MapQuest's database. One time it placed a store on an airport runway. Another time in a lake. Most of the time it just showed up on the wrong street several miles away.

/The stores in Quebec were the worst because I couldn't call anyone at the store to ask where they were located
//Workers at other stores got a laugh out of someone from headquarters calling to ask for help in placing their store on the map


Are you trying to troll?
 
2013-01-13 05:53:38 PM  
People do some seriously stupid shiat when they track their lost/stolen phones....

That being said, should you ever have to call 911 from your cell, if you can only say one thing, give the address as specifically as possible.
Many centers no longer answer "911 what is your emergency" but "911 WHERE is your emergency?"

This backfires as well though as some people respond with some variation of "my house" or "in [town name]".
 
2013-01-13 05:54:08 PM  
I know a Wayne Dobson. I just sent him this link. Thanks, submitter.
 
2013-01-13 05:54:11 PM  
FTA: "They might as well have said, 'Give me my horse back.'"

Seriously, though, the girl hadn't finished that year in college. She needed that horse.
 
2013-01-13 05:55:53 PM  

Anal Tobacco Furnace: Are you trying to troll?


If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer.
 
2013-01-13 05:58:03 PM  
Hello, long distance operator, how can I help you?
 
2013-01-13 06:03:58 PM  
Never EVAR stay in room 1212 when in NYC or greater NY area. Too many dumb mofos forgetting to dial '9' first.
 
2013-01-13 06:03:58 PM  
My cat is a Luddite so I guess I'm in the clear.
 
2013-01-13 06:04:19 PM  

TwistedFark: Why doesn't this guy sue sprint in civil court? As far as I'm concerned, their software malfunction is putting his life in danger - the last thing an older guy needs is to be woken up at 3am and beaten up because someone thinks you stole their iPhone.

If he doesn't own that house (rents) then at the very least he should move. Good luck selling it now that this story is out, coz I'm sure people would love to move into a home with this problem...


I don't think he would have a very good case. Sure, Sprint may be screwing up the maps, but people shouldn't be threatening or assaulting someone based on what a computer is telling them. "Google maps told me to do it" is not a valid defense.

Think about it this way -- if your GPS tells you to take a right hand turn and you take that turn only to find yourself driving off of a cliff, is that your fault for being an idiot or the GPS's fault. It's your fault. Computers and cell phones are a nice tool to have, but they are not a replacement for common sense.
 
2013-01-13 06:06:40 PM  
Six words: Motion activated water sprinkler with timer. Set it up outside the front door to activate between the hours from 11pm to 6am. Anybody who comes by between those hours will get drenched.
 
2013-01-13 06:30:08 PM  

Smgth: /srrsly tho, some crazy person shows up at my house at zero dark thirty ranting and raving, There Will Be Blood
//I will drink their milkshake!


Dunno about blood, but I guarantee you that I wouldn't answer the door at 2 am without a gun.

Arthur Jumbles: Six words: Motion activated water sprinkler with timer. Set it up outside the front door to activate between the hours from 11pm to 6am. Anybody who comes by between those hours will get drenched.


This is a good one.
 
2013-01-13 06:31:26 PM  

TwistedFark:
If he doesn't own that house (rents) then at the very least he should move. Good luck selling it now that this story is out, coz I'm sure people would love to move into a home with this problem...


I know a guy that might be interested.
http://www.phonelosers.org/
 
2013-01-13 06:41:23 PM  

I_Hate_Iowa: Sue Sprint for every time someone shows up at his house after midnight or any time the cops show up. Every one of those could be argued as some sort of emotional distress bullshiat. I wouldn't care if I won as long as Sprint got the message each time it happened. If Sprint fixes the problem then the lawsuit problem also goes away.


Or start stealing phones. The guy already has a documented explanation of why the stolen phone is being reported to be in his house.
 
2013-01-13 06:41:26 PM  
Or maybe he's a cellphone kleptomaniac and he has every single one of them!
 
2013-01-13 06:52:28 PM  

Spasticus Autisticus: Wonder how he might profit from this?



Open a used cellphone boutique in his house?
 
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