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2013-01-13 12:16:47 PM  
This all went by in such a blur.
 
2013-01-13 01:22:50 PM  

Nothing To See Here: This all went by in such a blur.


It didn't even hand-signal or slow down, either.
 
2013-01-13 01:29:06 PM  
Yeah. That's about right.

Self identified cyclists are the lowest form of life on the road. Basically they're below possums and deed. At least there's 70lbs of good eatin' on a deer. You hit a cyclist, the best you can hope for is the police charging them for causing the accident. Too stringy for the cookpot.
 
2013-01-13 01:35:19 PM  
Jef had boobs. Is 'Jef' short for 'Jefercina,' or 'Jefelle'?
 
2013-01-13 01:36:23 PM  
Is that supposed to have been funny?
 
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2013-01-13 01:41:04 PM  

serial_crusher: Is that supposed to have been funny?


I think he was going for accurate more than funny.
 
2013-01-13 01:48:32 PM  

xanadian: Jef had boobs. Is 'Jef' short for 'Jefercina,' or 'Jefelle'?


I think it's a joke at Jef Mallett's  expense.
 
2013-01-13 02:09:41 PM  
If a bike weighs 3000 pounds and has 300 horsepower at its disposal, they might have a point. I have this thing called a brain. It allows me to understand my surroundings and plan my movements. I can stop on a dime. My bike weighs 13 pounds. At worst, someone will have a contusion.
/Proud red light runner since like forever
//Cyclists who smoke and wear headphones and text while cycling are the problem. (I've seen that)
///And don't get me started on Rascals and scooters on the bike path
 
2013-01-13 02:09:51 PM  
I always pack heat when I cycle, so that if a driver swerves and crushes my legs, I can shoot him in the dick afterwards.
 
2013-01-13 02:12:09 PM  
There's a difference between a two-ton steel vehicle powered by distilled petroleum and a twenty pound vehicle powered by oatmeal and sausage. Most of the present traffic laws were written when the top speed of both vehicles were around eighteen miles per hour. But keep complaining, I know it's terribly difficult to accelerate an automobile, you have to depress your right foot by about a centimeter, you might get a blister or something.
 
2013-01-13 02:12:56 PM  
Tip for bicyclists, if you are really hardcore, you buy the heaviest/crappiest bike available and wear normal clothes if you want to get the best workout.
 
2013-01-13 02:13:15 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: If a bike weighs 3000 pounds and has 300 horsepower at its disposal, they might have a point. I have this thing called a brain. It allows me to understand my surroundings and plan my movements. I can stop on a dime. My bike weighs 13 pounds. At worst, someone will have a contusion.
/Proud red light runner since like forever
//Cyclists who smoke and wear headphones and text while cycling are the problem. (I've seen that)
///And don't get me started on Rascals and scooters on the bike path


Holy crap, we're in complete agreement.

I'm gonna go 3D print a beer in celebration.
 
2013-01-13 02:14:09 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: /Proud red light runner since like forever


I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.
 
2013-01-13 02:14:52 PM  
theorellior: See what fun we can have together? Betcha if we met in real life we'd be best bum buddies like ever, in the whole universe.
 
2013-01-13 02:15:34 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: If a bike weighs 3000 pounds and has 300 horsepower at its disposal, they might have a point. I have this thing called a brain. It allows me to understand my surroundings and plan my movements. I can stop on a dime. My bike weighs 13 pounds. At worst, someone will have a contusion.
/Proud red light runner since like forever
//Cyclists who smoke and wear headphones and text while cycling are the problem. (I've seen that)
///And don't get me started on Rascals and scooters on the bike path


Keep running those red lights and forever is gonna take a turn for the worse. And my sympathy will be with the poor soul who ends up smacking you because they will bear the burden of running into your stupidity.
 
2013-01-13 02:16:04 PM  

doyner: I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.


If a cyclist runs a red light and no motorist's right-of-way is infringed, does a driver still get butthurt?
 
2013-01-13 02:16:21 PM  

xanadian: Jef had boobs. Is 'Jef' short for 'Jefercina,' or 'Jefelle'?


Guest artist Rob Liefeld.
 
2013-01-13 02:16:38 PM  
As a daily bicycle commuter and model of good road cycling behavior (yes, I stop and sit there at red lights), nothing annoys me more than Jef-esque douches. Guess what, self-important cyclists of the Entitlement Generation: You're not helping the law-abiding, courteous, and Spandex-free road sharers. Just stay home if you can't behave.
 
2013-01-13 02:16:38 PM  
I just love when I heard from the cyclist in question who was followed by a cop for a bit in a downtown environment. When he was finally pulled over he was given three tickets for running three red lights. $124 per light.
 
2013-01-13 02:16:40 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: theorellior: See what fun we can have together? Betcha if we met in real life we'd be best bum buddies like ever, in the whole universe.


Until our atoms wear down, at least.
 
2013-01-13 02:17:33 PM  
before the internet, cartoons had to be funny or else they didn't get published
 
2013-01-13 02:18:06 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: At worst, someone will have a contusion.


Sutchi Hui begs to differ
I get it, it takes you a while to get up to speed and you don't want to have to stop at every red light, but seriously, if you use the road, the rules apply to you.
 
2013-01-13 02:18:40 PM  
I'm a cyclist and most of the motorists I come across drive reasonably. There are some idiots that cut you off or park in bike lanes or run red lights, but these people are in the minority. And I've seen plenty of cyclists do stupid things too. There is enough of that to go around for everyone.

On the other hand Pedos (Pedestrians) with their constant jaywalking slow things down for everyone as they stroll everywhere with their pedestrians-have-the-right-of-way bullshiat attitude.
 
2013-01-13 02:18:51 PM  

Hughlander: I just love when I heard from the cyclist in question who was followed by a cop for a bit in a downtown environment. When he was finally pulled over he was given three tickets for running three red lights. $124 per light.


I'm glad he did that, that cyclist could have bruised one or more pedestrians and maybe skinned a knee with such dangerous and reckless behavior. Plus the cop got his quota for the day! Win-win.
 
2013-01-13 02:18:51 PM  
This is why I dont feel bad for using cyclists for speed bumps. But they do a number on my tires.
 
2013-01-13 02:19:22 PM  

theorellior: doyner: I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.

If a cyclist runs a red light and no motorist's right-of-way is infringed, does a driver still get butthurt?


Not at all.  It's the motorist with a green light that has right-of-way and still has cross traffic because of pedal-powered assholes that gets "butthurt" as you call it.
 
2013-01-13 02:19:30 PM  
That's funny; as a downhill racer that's how I see road cyclists. Little effete bike riders with tiny bicycles and prissy pants.

/Buy they weally weally twy so hard and it's just so cuuuute.
 
2013-01-13 02:19:49 PM  

How bicyclists treat pedestrians:


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If I had the money I would pay off every state politician in Massachusetts to pass a law requiring all bicyclists to ride in the road only. I'm tired of the riders who act like they own the sidewalk.

 
2013-01-13 02:20:32 PM  
CSB: A little while ago I made a right hand turn out of a driveway on my bike. I didn't really look for oncoming traffic though and I ended up pulling out in front of a car. It was a campus road full of turns and speedbumps so it wasn't exactly a dangerous situation. At a shop sign down the road he rolled down his window and made a bit of a snarky comment. I said to him "I'm really sorry, I didn't see you there" and I said it with sincerity because I realized as I was pulling out in front of him that I was being a dick. I think my politeness caused his head to explode.

I run lights and stop signs but I do my very best to do it only when it's absolutely safe and non-dickish. If you get mad at cyclists blasting through reds and stops, watch any intersection for 5 minutes and count the drivers who make rolling stops and rolling turns on red.
 
2013-01-13 02:20:44 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: If a bike weighs 3000 pounds and has 300 horsepower at its disposal, they might have a point. I have this thing called a brain. It allows me to understand my surroundings and plan my movements. I can stop on a dime. My bike weighs 13 pounds. At worst, someone will have a contusion.
/Proud red light runner since like forever
//Cyclists who smoke and wear headphones and text while cycling are the problem. (I've seen that)
///And don't get me started on Rascals and scooters on the bike path


So a driver has no right to expect you to behave as a vehicle? So they stop at the 4-way stop, expecting you to stop next. They go (all legal), you blow in front of them, they have to jam on the brakes. You think that's fine?

Traffic rules are there so that people know what to expect on the road. Random violations are so common by bikes that I assume they'll do the dumbest possible thing at any given moment, with no regard for their own safety. I don't care if the cyclist is 100% at fault and there's video evidence of it: I don't want to kill one. So stop being douchebags and follow the damned rules.
 
2013-01-13 02:20:45 PM  
In before... Ah crap. Nevermind.
 
2013-01-13 02:20:55 PM  
MrHelpful: That wasn't very helpful. People who obey the law can get killed as easily. I look where the hell I am going. Red wavelength photons emanating from a municipal structure are just a guideline for me. Far worse are the cyclists with headphones on, they are ignoring audio cues the entire time they are riding, I'm just running red lights once or twice.

That being said, I am in fairly good shape and have a decent bike. I also shift down when I brake so I can get back to speed easily. So I'm quite agile. When I go camping on my bike and have extra weight on my backpack and can't see as well, I slow down and obey traffic lights more, especially when I'm out of town.

Running red lights is a culture thing here in Montreal. Our drivers can barely master "right on green" so if I stopped at a red light that would be MORE dangerous as no one would expect it!
 
2013-01-13 02:21:15 PM  

doyner: Not at all. It's the motorist with a green light that has right-of-way and still has cross traffic because of pedal-powered assholes that gets "butthurt" as you call it.


It was a riff on the "tree falling in the forest with no one around making noise" bit. If I run a red light with no oncoming traffic, will you get butthurt just to keep the universe in balance?
 
2013-01-13 02:21:40 PM  
I remember a great cyclist moment.

Where I used to live, the road outside my house was a popular one for those huge long "trains" of 30 cyclists who ignore all traffic laws and in general act like total douchebags. I lived on the intersection of that road and a small road that went to a community behind my block. I've often almost been struck as a pedestrian by these asses. Well, one day, there was a big ol F-350000 huge honkin pick'up truck at the intersection, the light turned green, and he started into the intersection. Just as one of these douche-trains was in the process of ignoring their red light.

That "THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP sound that they made each smacking into the side of the pickup truck made my day. It was probably the most satisfying sound I've ever heard in my life.

/ #2 was afterwards, the shreeking and biatching and moaning from the lawbreaking cyclists picking up their twisted wrecked bikes, who were FURIOUS at the truck driver who dared to enter the intersection on a green light.
 
2013-01-13 02:22:10 PM  

theorellior: doyner: I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.

If a cyclist runs a red light and no motorist's right-of-way is infringed, does a driver still get butthurt?


What if a red light running cyclist mows down and kills a pedestrian?
 
2013-01-13 02:22:28 PM  
Did you hear about the blonde that wanted to trade her Menstruated Cylcle in for a Schwinn?
 
2013-01-13 02:22:28 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: If a bike weighs 3000 pounds and has 300 horsepower at its disposal, they might have a point. I have this thing called a brain. It allows me to understand my surroundings and plan my movements. I can stop on a dime. My bike weighs 13 pounds. At worst, someone will have a contusion.


Only a contusion? Are you sure?
Link
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2013-01-13 02:22:28 PM  
There's a reason we don't follow all the rules of the road; no one in a position of authority ever tells us not to. I've blown through red lights with a cop sitting right there watching. They never do anything, ever. You can call us arrogant if you want but if you knew cops wouldn't ticket you for running a red light I'm pretty sure you would do the same thing.

I think of it like this; considering all the crap cyclists have to deal with on a daily basis - getting cut off, cursed at, splashed with water, run into (happened to me a few weeks ago), etc. we deserve to run a few red lights. Don't like it? Too bad, get your own bike and join us.
 
2013-01-13 02:22:48 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: I always pack heat when I cycle, so that if a driver swerves and crushes my legs, I can shoot him in the dick afterwards.


This.
 
2013-01-13 02:22:53 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: So a driver has no right to expect you to behave as a vehicle? So they stop at the 4-way stop, expecting you to stop next. They go (all legal), you blow in front of them, they have to jam on the brakes. You think that's fine?


No, I always respect the right-of-way of a vehicle if one is present. It wigs drivers out when I wave them through a stop sign, but there you go.
 
2013-01-13 02:23:03 PM  

skinink: How bicyclists treat pedestrians:
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 472x848]
If I had the money I would pay off every state politician in Massachusetts to pass a law requiring all bicyclists to ride in the road only. I'm tired of the riders who act like they own the sidewalk.


I don't want that. Just drive/ride according to conditions. That means slow down amongst pedestrians. Not a difficult concept.
 
2013-01-13 02:23:09 PM  
Quantum Apostrophe is also a bike douche; this explains much about his threadshiatting in space threads.
 
2013-01-13 02:23:42 PM  
Just returned form Europe. You see tons of bicycles - people ride them! To work. To the store. Few drive cars. They build roads with small bike lanes. Drivers respect them. Riders respect traffic laws.

Obviously not as evolved as us Amerikans.
 
2013-01-13 02:24:01 PM  

Soymilk: What if a red light running cyclist mows down and kills a pedestrian?


Then the cyclist goes to jail. Wow, that was easy, give me another.
 
2013-01-13 02:24:22 PM  
My cyclist husband pointed this comic out to me because I am constantly complaining about arrogant cyclists. Not only running red lights & stop signs but, my biggest complaint, riding 3,4 or 5 abreast when cars have to share the road.
 
2013-01-13 02:25:16 PM  

JasonOfOrillia: I'm a cyclist and most of the motorists I come across drive reasonably. There are some idiots that cut you off or park in bike lanes or run red lights, but these people are in the minority. And I've seen plenty of cyclists do stupid things too. There is enough of that to go around for everyone.

On the other hand Pedos (Pedestrians) with their constant jaywalking slow things down for everyone as they stroll everywhere with their pedestrians-have-the-right-of-way bullshiat attitude.


In defense of pedestrians, most cars are assholes at marked crosswalks that aren't enforced with a redlight. And I'm more surprised when cars at redlights HAVEN'T stopped with their car completely through the crosswalk. Also. At lights where a turn lane has to share with the crosswalk, drivers act like its the worst thing ever if you keep them from turning immediately because you're tyring to cross the frigging road when the light says you can.
 
2013-01-13 02:25:57 PM  

theorellior: JohnAnnArbor: So a driver has no right to expect you to behave as a vehicle? So they stop at the 4-way stop, expecting you to stop next. They go (all legal), you blow in front of them, they have to jam on the brakes. You think that's fine?

No, I always respect the right-of-way of a vehicle if one is present. It wigs drivers out when I wave them through a stop sign, but there you go.


Because if it's your turn, just GO. That goes for bikes or cars.
 
2013-01-13 02:26:09 PM  

theorellior: doyner: I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.

If a cyclist runs a red light and no motorist's right-of-way is infringed, does a driver still get butthurt?


Not necessarily, but the pedestrian trying to cross (legally, on their signal) gets pretty pissed off. You can stop on a dime. Try doing it sometime.
 
2013-01-13 02:26:14 PM  
Did you hear about the ginger that wanted to trade her Menstruated Cylcle in for a Pashley?

/English version
 
2013-01-13 02:26:17 PM  

theorellior: doyner: Not at all. It's the motorist with a green light that has right-of-way and still has cross traffic because of pedal-powered assholes that gets "butthurt" as you call it.

It was a riff on the "tree falling in the forest with no one around making noise" bit. If I run a red light with no oncoming traffic, will you get butthurt just to keep the universe in balance?


I'm in my house right now.  I don't give two farks what's going on outside on local roadways.  My "butthurt" is based on my first-person traffic experience.

Get over yourself.
 
2013-01-13 02:26:21 PM  
D-Bag cyclist about to zip past my car.

Open car door innocently.

*P-THUMP!*

Bask in the glory.

Then, get cyclist's name in order to have car door repaired by his insurance. Sue him if he doesn't have one. Further bask in greater glory.
 
2013-01-13 02:26:31 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: If a bike weighs 3000 pounds and has 300 horsepower at its disposal, they might have a point. I have this thing called a brain. It allows me to understand my surroundings and plan my movements. I can stop on a dime. My bike weighs 13 pounds. At worst, someone will have a contusion.
/Proud red light runner since like forever
//Cyclists who smoke and wear headphones and text while cycling are the problem. (I've seen that)
///And don't get me started on Rascals and scooters on the bike path


Yeah, but no one else can predict what crazy-ass thing you're going to do. That's why we have these things called "traffic laws," and you're supposed to follow them.

//very tired of the "never been in an accident . . . but caused dozens" variety of self-absorption
 
2013-01-13 02:26:37 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: MrHelpful: That wasn't very helpful. People who obey the law can get killed as easily. I look where the hell I am going. Red wavelength photons emanating from a municipal structure are just a guideline for me. Far worse are the cyclists with headphones on, they are ignoring audio cues the entire time they are riding, I'm just running red lights once or twice.

That being said, I am in fairly good shape and have a decent bike. I also shift down when I brake so I can get back to speed easily. So I'm quite agile. When I go camping on my bike and have extra weight on my backpack and can't see as well, I slow down and obey traffic lights more, especially when I'm out of town.

Running red lights is a culture thing here in Montreal. Our drivers can barely master "right on green" so if I stopped at a red light that would be MORE dangerous as no one would expect it!


Nice try but your bragging about blowing red lights is what makes my comment helpful. Everything else you said is just a rationalization for your dangerous and stupid behavior.
 
2013-01-13 02:27:06 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: If a bike weighs 3000 pounds and has 300 horsepower at its disposal, they might have a point. I have this thing called a brain. It allows me to understand my surroundings and plan my movements. I can stop on a dime. My bike weighs 13 pounds. At worst, someone will have a contusion.
/Proud red light runner since like forever


Do you remember the discussion here about the blog post by Chris Bucchere (pronounced, I hope, "butcher") in which he wrote

The light turned yellow as I was approaching the intersection, but I was already way too committed to stop. The light turned red as I was cruising through the middle of the intersection and then, almost instantly, the southern crosswalk on Market and Castro filled up with people coming from both directions...I couldn't see a line through the crowd and I couldn't stop, so I laid it down and just plowed through the crowded crosswalk in the least-populated place I could find.
I remember seeing a RIVER of blood on the asphalt, but it wasn't mine. I really hope he ends up OK.


If so, you may recall that "he" didn't end up OK. "He", a 71 year old man called Sutchi Hui, died in hospital.

Except insofar as no man is an island, I'm not greatly disturbed by cyclists or car drivers who kill themselves doing stupid things. I'm much more bothered when they affect other people; either those they hit and injure or kill or those whom they involve in the accident. When you end up under the wheels of a car at one of those red light, mangled, broken and quite possibly dead, the car driver is going to feel terrible, even though it will be entirely your fault.
 
2013-01-13 02:28:50 PM  

theorellior: doyner: I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.

If a cyclist runs a red light and no motorist's right-of-way is infringed, does a driver still get butthurt?


Perhaps not, until the cyclist slams into the driver's car and then decides to sue.
 
2013-01-13 02:29:07 PM  

JasonOfOrillia: I'm a cyclist and most of the motorists I come across drive reasonably. There are some idiots that cut you off or park in bike lanes or run red lights, but these people are in the minority. And I've seen plenty of cyclists do stupid things too. There is enough of that to go around for everyone.

On the other hand Pedos (Pedestrians) with their constant jaywalking slow things down for everyone as they stroll everywhere with their pedestrians-have-the-right-of-way bullshiat attitude.


Hey fark you too buddy.

/pedestrian
//doesn't jaywalk

///seriously, equating people who jaywalk with people who are sexual predators of children? I'd invite you to stay classy but I'd have to believe you had any in the first place
 
2013-01-13 02:29:09 PM  
JohnAnnArbor : If there are no cars anywhere, why should I stop? If there are cars, I obey the lights. Simple, no?

HTApprovedChick: FTA: "a bicyclist who was trying to break a personal speed record". And that applies to every cyclist? I don't have twin GE afterburning turbofans on my bike, OK? And even if I were trying to break a speed record.... I'd still be looking ahead. This nutjob sounds like he was looking at his feet or something.
 
2013-01-13 02:29:27 PM  

skinink: If I had the money I would pay off every state politician in Massachusetts to pass a law requiring all bicyclists to ride in the road only. I'm tired of the riders who act like they own the sidewalk.


That's already the law in San Francisco. Doesn't help.
 
2013-01-13 02:31:21 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: If a bike weighs 3000 pounds and has 300 horsepower at its disposal, they might have a point. I have this thing called a brain. It allows me to understand my surroundings and plan my movements. I can stop on a dime. My bike weighs 13 pounds. At worst, someone will have a contusion.
/Proud red light runner since like forever
//Cyclists who smoke and wear headphones and text while cycling are the problem. (I've seen that)
///And don't get me started on Rascals and scooters on the bike path


As someone who bikes to work regularly, let me assure you that you ARE the problem and you ARE breaking the law. I hope you get pulled over and fined.

I stop for red lights and stop signs.
 
2013-01-13 02:31:38 PM  

Any Pie Left: Quantum Apostrophe is also a bike douche; this explains much about his threadshiatting in space threads.


i'm also getting the "precious and unique snowflake" vibe.
 
2013-01-13 02:31:59 PM  

TV's Vinnie: [msnbcmedia.msn.com image 850x527]
Stare at it and enjoy, Farkers. Stare at it and enjoy.


Thanks, I was just about to post this one as well. One of my favorite cyclists vs cars images.
 
2013-01-13 02:32:00 PM  

stiletto_the_wise: I remember a great cyclist moment.

Where I used to live, the road outside my house was a popular one for those huge long "trains" of 30 cyclists who ignore all traffic laws and in general act like total douchebags. I lived on the intersection of that road and a small road that went to a community behind my block. I've often almost been struck as a pedestrian by these asses. Well, one day, there was a big ol F-350000 huge honkin pick'up truck at the intersection, the light turned green, and he started into the intersection. Just as one of these douche-trains was in the process of ignoring their red light.

That "THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP sound that they made each smacking into the side of the pickup truck made my day. It was probably the most satisfying sound I've ever heard in my life.

/ #2 was afterwards, the shreeking and biatching and moaning from the lawbreaking cyclists picking up their twisted wrecked bikes, who were FURIOUS at the truck driver who dared to enter the intersection on a green light.


How long did it take you to stop laughing at them? It would've taken me a few minutes.
 
2013-01-13 02:32:06 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: Because if it's your turn, just GO. That goes for bikes or cars.


No, I was referring to the concept that cars expect a bike to blow through the stop sign, so when I come to a stop and let them take their rightful turn, it blows their mind.
 
2013-01-13 02:32:50 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: I always pack heat when I cycle, so that if a driver swerves and crushes my legs, I can shoot him in the dick afterwards.


I'll make sure after I've hit you the first time, I'll put it in reverse and take out your arms too.
 
2013-01-13 02:33:23 PM  
imageshack.us

I am a cyclist and long time motorist, this is how I see my fellow humans. Actually I don't see many of them out here because they're too goddamn fat and lazy to do anything like top out on something with your bike. I have no illusion of superiority about it, I am just one less thing in your way and I'm not bothering anyone.
 
2013-01-13 02:34:33 PM  

TV's Vinnie: D-Bag cyclist about to zip past my car.

Open car door innocently.

*P-THUMP!*

Bask in the glory.

Then, get cyclist's name in order to have car door repaired by his insurance. Sue him if he doesn't have one. Further bask in greater glory.


That happened to a friend of mine who was riding in the bike lane. She needs surgery now and the cop found the dude liable, so his insurance will be covering it.

If you're intentionally a dick, the law probably won't be on your side.
 
2013-01-13 02:34:49 PM  

Raoul Eaton: Perhaps not, until the cyclist slams into the driver's car and then decides to sue.


That's the cyclist being an asshole. As QA said, I have eyes and ears and no steel shell protecting me. It's in my best interests to keep from doing something that will kill me. That includes crossing busy freeways, riding out into incoming traffic, slamming into pedestrians, or colliding with cars. No of those things will make my day if they happen. So I try my best to avoid them. But I won't sit at an empty intersection waiting for a red light to change, especially if the sensor isn't calibrated to pick up my frame.
 
2013-01-13 02:34:58 PM  

Tumunga: Fuggin Bizzy: I always pack heat when I cycle, so that if a driver swerves and crushes my legs, I can shoot him in the dick afterwards.

I'll make sure after I've hit you the first time, I'll put it in reverse and take out your arms too.


I would first check to see if one of the legs is severed, and then beat the person to death with the severed leg.
 
2013-01-13 02:35:01 PM  
Q. Why wasn't this joke funny?
A. It was two tired...
 
2013-01-13 02:35:28 PM  
PrivateCaboose: Please describe for who I am a problem when there is no one around?

Any Pie Left : Please describe your mental process to arrive at that conclusion. I'm sure Elon Musk will build private space bike paths on Mars when he starts sending 80000 people a month there.
 
2013-01-13 02:36:55 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: PrivateCaboose: Please describe for who I am a problem when there is no one around?

Any Pie Left : Please describe your mental process to arrive at that conclusion. I'm sure Elon Musk will build private space bike paths on Mars when he starts sending 80000 people a month there.


As long as your state has motorcycle laws allowing you to cross when there is no one there, you're fine. If you're running reds during rush hour because the traffic is a ways off, you're a douchebag like most of the cyclists I see in DC.
 
2013-01-13 02:37:12 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: PrivateCaboose: Please describe for who I am a problem when there is no one around?


Because we all have to follow traffic laws regardless to prevent collisions when there is someone else there we don't see.
 
2013-01-13 02:37:15 PM  

HTApprovedChick: Quantum Apostrophe: At worst, someone will have a contusion.

Sutchi Hui begs to differ
I get it, it takes you a while to get up to speed and you don't want to have to stop at every red light, but seriously, if you use the road, the rules apply to you.


You not only beat me to the reply, you put it perfectly.
 
2013-01-13 02:37:24 PM  

doyner: Get over yourself.


LOL. That's rich.
 
2013-01-13 02:37:50 PM  

PrivateCaboose: Quantum Apostrophe: PrivateCaboose: Please describe for who I am a problem when there is no one around?

Any Pie Left : Please describe your mental process to arrive at that conclusion. I'm sure Elon Musk will build private space bike paths on Mars when he starts sending 80000 people a month there.

As long as your state has motorcycle laws allowing you to cross when there is no one there, you're fine. If you're running reds during rush hour because the traffic is a ways off, you're a douchebag like most of the cyclists I see in DC.


Ah...  You're in DC too.  I feel your pain.
 
2013-01-13 02:38:47 PM  
Closest I've ever come to an accident was when a cyclist was going the wrong way down a one way street inches from where the street I was on met the street he was on. I stopped, looked to make sure that there was no traffic and started to pull out (remember one way street). I pulled out about three inches when a cyclists sped by the front of my car going well above the speed limit. Prick then had the audacity to give me a dirty look.

/Want to use the public road? Than obey the same damn traffic laws as everyone else, dammit.
 
2013-01-13 02:39:44 PM  

doyner: PrivateCaboose: Quantum Apostrophe: PrivateCaboose: Please describe for who I am a problem when there is no one around?

Any Pie Left : Please describe your mental process to arrive at that conclusion. I'm sure Elon Musk will build private space bike paths on Mars when he starts sending 80000 people a month there.

As long as your state has motorcycle laws allowing you to cross when there is no one there, you're fine. If you're running reds during rush hour because the traffic is a ways off, you're a douchebag like most of the cyclists I see in DC.

Ah...  You're in DC too.  I feel your pain.


I rarely drive here, because I don't own a car. But I'm often the only cyclist I see obeying the rules of the road. Also I hate the term cyclist. I just bike into work and back. 12 miles a day hardly feels like I should have a whole new term describing me.
 
2013-01-13 02:40:25 PM  

theorellior: doyner: Get over yourself.

LOL. That's rich.


Dude, I generally like you.  My whole point is that it is inherently dickish and dangerous to carve out your own set of traffic laws for your convenience.
 
2013-01-13 02:40:40 PM  
I'm learning so much from these exchanges, and to think all this time I thought all cyclists were smug a holes.
 
2013-01-13 02:40:50 PM  
I just feel bad for someone that accidentally kills a cyclist because they blew a red light or stop sign.
 
2013-01-13 02:41:08 PM  

PrivateCaboose: doyner: PrivateCaboose: Quantum Apostrophe: PrivateCaboose: Please describe for who I am a problem when there is no one around?

Any Pie Left : Please describe your mental process to arrive at that conclusion. I'm sure Elon Musk will build private space bike paths on Mars when he starts sending 80000 people a month there.

As long as your state has motorcycle laws allowing you to cross when there is no one there, you're fine. If you're running reds during rush hour because the traffic is a ways off, you're a douchebag like most of the cyclists I see in DC.

Ah...  You're in DC too.  I feel your pain.

I rarely drive here, because I don't own a car. But I'm often the only cyclist I see obeying the rules of the road. Also I hate the term cyclist. I just bike into work and back. 12 miles a day hardly feels like I should have a whole new term describing me.


I will say on 15th St I ride on the sidewalk. During rush hour, the route to 395 is filled with scary drivers.
 
2013-01-13 02:41:24 PM  

PrivateCaboose: I rarely drive here, because I don't own a car. But I'm often the only cyclist I see obeying the rules of the road. Also I hate the term cyclist. I just bike into work and back. 12 miles a day hardly feels like I should have a whole new term describing me.


This is why I will never hit you in traffic.
 
2013-01-13 02:41:28 PM  

letrole: before the internet, cartoons had to be funny or else they didn't get published


Ziggy
 
2013-01-13 02:44:24 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: MrHelpful: That wasn't very helpful. People who obey the law can get killed as easily. I look where the hell I am going. Red wavelength photons emanating from a municipal structure are just a guideline for me. Far worse are the cyclists with headphones on, they are ignoring audio cues the entire time they are riding, I'm just running red lights once or twice.

That being said, I am in fairly good shape and have a decent bike. I also shift down when I brake so I can get back to speed easily. So I'm quite agile. When I go camping on my bike and have extra weight on my backpack and can't see as well, I slow down and obey traffic lights more, especially when I'm out of town.

Running red lights is a culture thing here in Montreal. Our drivers can barely master "right on green" so if I stopped at a red light that would be MORE dangerous as no one would expect it!


Dear cyclist,

RAMMING SPEED!

Sincerly,

Owns truck with cow catcher on the front

/ I keed; but, you've got to admit; it's not the best idea to run red lights. That's how you become a big stain on someone's windshield
 
2013-01-13 02:44:24 PM  
Why must we have to share the road with the uninsured, untaxed, and unlicensed vehicles?
 
2013-01-13 02:44:52 PM  
I'm going to bike in each and every one of your hometowns to run red lights this summer.
/Not really...
 
2013-01-13 02:45:35 PM  

special20: Why must we have to share the road with the uninsured, untaxed, and unlicensed vehicles?


For one thing, it reduces traffic congestion.
 
2013-01-13 02:45:48 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Hey fark you too buddy.

/pedestrian
//doesn't jaywalk

///seriously, equating people who jaywalk with people who are sexual predators of children? I'd invite you to stay classy but I'd have to believe you had any in the first place


The fact that you don't jaywalk is cool. That is the responsible thing to do. And "Pedo" is merely short for pedestrian. As for those sexual predators of children, I'm not sure someone who seems to advertise themselves and a fan of a children's show should be raising that issue at all.
 
2013-01-13 02:46:01 PM  
Not all cyclists are of the dickish sort who disobey traffic laws, and those that are make the rest of us look bad. It's a problem. Still, the dickish drivers that try to run me off the road, throw things at me, or think it's clever to honk just as they are going past are not helping. That's also a problem.

Or in other words, a lot of people are dickish. It's a problem.
 
2013-01-13 02:46:03 PM  

Sticky Hands: letrole: before the internet, cartoons had to be funny or else they didn't get published

Ziggy


Family Circle
 
2013-01-13 02:46:07 PM  
When I was in college we used to throw water bottles at cyclists who rode way to the left and wouldn't move over.
 
2013-01-13 02:46:31 PM  

TV's Vinnie: D-Bag cyclist about to zip past my car.

Open car door innocently.

*P-THUMP!*

Bask in the glory.

Then, get cyclist's name in order to have car door repaired by his insurance. Sue him if he doesn't have one. Further bask in greater glory.


I think you're usually expected to check for oncoming traffic before opening your door and stepping into a traffic lane.  So would probably be you paying for his funeral, not the other way around.
 
2013-01-13 02:46:36 PM  
Before this thread I had no opinion about bicyclists.

After this thread, I think they are douchebags and I hate them.

Mission accomplished?
 
2013-01-13 02:46:38 PM  

Mi-go amigo: Not all cyclists are of the dickish sort who disobey traffic laws, and those that are make the rest of us look bad. It's a problem. Still, the dickish drivers that try to run me off the road, throw things at me, or think it's clever to honk just as they are going past are not helping. That's also a problem.

Or in other words, a lot of people are dickish. It's a problem.


Fist bump.
 
2013-01-13 02:46:59 PM  

mesmer242: Sticky Hands: letrole: before the internet, cartoons had to be funny or else they didn't get published

Ziggy

Family Circle


Sorry, mistyped that. Family Circus. I'm sure Family Circle isn't funny either though.
 
2013-01-13 02:47:24 PM  

GORDON: Before this thread I had no opinion about bicyclists.

After this thread, I think they are douchebags and I hate them.

Mission accomplished?


I'm more of a douchenozzle than a douchebag...
 
2013-01-13 02:47:50 PM  
You cyclist haters sound fat. Maybe if you got off your rascals and got some cardio, you wouldn't be so bitter and out of shape.

/Cyclist
//I make my own rules
 
2013-01-13 02:48:18 PM  

special20: Why must we have to share the road with the uninsured, untaxed, and unlicensed vehicles?


Because we pay sales taxes too and don't damage the roadbed?
 
2013-01-13 02:49:26 PM  

theorellior: special20: Why must we have to share the road with the uninsured, untaxed, and unlicensed vehicles?

Because we pay sales taxes too and don't damage the roadbed?


In his defense, the car title my friend has to buy and emissions testing for her old car is about $900.
 
2013-01-13 02:49:28 PM  

doyner: Dude, I generally like you. My whole point is that it is inherently dickish and dangerous to carve out your own set of traffic laws for your convenience.


Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
 
2013-01-13 02:49:58 PM  

theorellior: Raoul Eaton: Perhaps not, until the cyclist slams into the driver's car and then decides to sue.

That's the cyclist being an asshole. As QA said, I have eyes and ears and no steel shell protecting me. It's in my best interests to keep from doing something that will kill me. That includes crossing busy freeways, riding out into incoming traffic, slamming into pedestrians, or colliding with cars. No of those things will make my day if they happen. So I try my best to avoid them. But I won't sit at an empty intersection waiting for a red light to change, especially if the sensor isn't calibrated to pick up my frame.


So. Cars should wait at that same intersection, but cyclists don't have to because they don't feel like it?

In a lot of states it is legal to run a red light if, for some reason, it won't change after you have stopped and waited a period of time at it.
 
2013-01-13 02:50:46 PM  

TV's Vinnie: D-Bag cyclist about to zip past my car.

Open car door innocently.

*P-THUMP!*

Bask in the glory.

Then, get cyclist's name in order to have car door repaired by his insurance. Sue him if he doesn't have one. Further bask in greater glory.


You realize that cyclists hugging the side of the street is due to cars whizzing by them of the left dangerously close. Excessive door prizing will only encourage cyclists to ride in the center of the lane which will slow everyone down.
 
2013-01-13 02:51:00 PM  
Beware of the Spoken Ones.
 
2013-01-13 02:51:49 PM  

Soymilk: theorellior: doyner: I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.

If a cyclist runs a red light and no motorist's right-of-way is infringed, does a driver still get butthurt?

What if a red light running cyclist mows down and kills a pedestrian?


We're about to find out here in San Francisco: Link.
 
2013-01-13 02:51:58 PM  

JasonOfOrillia: On the other hand Pedos (Pedestrians) with their constant jaywalking slow things down for everyone as they stroll everywhere with their pedestrians-have-the-right-of-way bullshiat attitude.


Dunno what the rules are there, but over here pedestrians do have the right of way.
 
2013-01-13 02:52:44 PM  

mesmer242: mesmer242: Sticky Hands: letrole: before the internet, cartoons had to be funny or else they didn't get published

Ziggy

Family Circle

Sorry, mistyped that. Family Circus. I'm sure Family Circle isn't funny either though.


It was frequently framed in a circle.
 
2013-01-13 02:53:06 PM  

Hamanu: That's funny; as a downhill racer that's how I see road cyclists. Little effete bike riders with tiny bicycles and prissy pants.

/Buy they weally weally twy so hard and it's just so cuuuute.


I don't have a tiny bicycle or prissy pants but you would impress me more if you raced up hills too.
 
2013-01-13 02:53:19 PM  
Meh. Dickhead bikers can lobby for changes tp the law until their spandex splits at the seams, but they can't change the laws of physics.

/rides a bike sometimes
//stays the fark out of everyone's way and obeys traffic laws
///doesn't own any spandex
 
2013-01-13 02:54:45 PM  

orbister: JasonOfOrillia: On the other hand Pedos (Pedestrians) with their constant jaywalking slow things down for everyone as they stroll everywhere with their pedestrians-have-the-right-of-way bullshiat attitude.

Dunno what the rules are there, but over here pedestrians do have the right of way.


Not outside of a crosswalk. Crossing a street outside a crosswalk in many places means if you're mowed down by a car, a cop will ticket you to prove the driver was not at fault.
 
2013-01-13 02:56:07 PM  

orbister: JasonOfOrillia: On the other hand Pedos (Pedestrians) with their constant jaywalking slow things down for everyone as they stroll everywhere with their pedestrians-have-the-right-of-way bullshiat attitude.

Dunno what the rules are there, but over here pedestrians do have the right of way.


Where I am all road users have an obligation to not hit pedestrians if they can help it. Folks take this to mean that pedestrians have the right of way however they could be charged with jaywalking if they don't cross a street at an intersection and with the lights if there are any. I cycle with an eye to the parked cars and pedestrians because a walker or a car door can pop in front of you at any moment.
 
2013-01-13 02:56:18 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: So. Cars should wait at that same intersection, but cyclists don't have to because they don't feel like it?


Okay, boys and girls, for all you pious drivers out there who sanctimoniously follow every gorram traffic law out there, I'm gonna laugh the next time there's a red light camera thread or a speeding thread and some of your are all puffing your chests out about how you ride the ass of every milquetoast driver who doesn't know the left lane is for Manly Drivers going 90.
 
2013-01-13 02:56:42 PM  

JasonOfOrillia: Hamanu: That's funny; as a downhill racer that's how I see road cyclists. Little effete bike riders with tiny bicycles and prissy pants.

/Buy they weally weally twy so hard and it's just so cuuuute.

I don't have a tiny bicycle or prissy pants but you would impress me more if you raced up hills too.


? I just have a bike I bought at Costco. It gets me to and from work, to the grocery store, etc.

I play rugby, I don't need to prove I'm bad ass with a bicycle.
 
2013-01-13 02:57:20 PM  

Watubi: Tip for bicyclists, if you are really hardcore, you buy the heaviest/crappiest bike available and wear normal clothes if you want to get the best workout.


...I barely even ride anymore, but buy the  crappiest bike? o.O Why would you do that? The fun is in being able to turn\stop\do tricks on a dime!
 
2013-01-13 02:58:14 PM  

Amishrabbit: As a daily bicycle commuter and model of good road cycling behavior (yes, I stop and sit there at red lights), nothing annoys me more than Jef-esque douches. Guess what, self-important cyclists of the Entitlement Generation: You're not helping the law-abiding, courteous, and Spandex-free road sharers. Just stay home if you can't behave.


This.

As a person who does all of my incity chores by bike, I am so sick of the pompous arrogance of the Lycra brigade as they blow through every law on the road. You want to know why people are so wary of bikes? Because they have no idea what you are going to do next and then they will have their insurance go up because of your dumbass.

/fark Critical Mass
 
2013-01-13 02:58:49 PM  
How drivers think cyclists see their fellow humans

I'm pretty sure that pyramid would work if the word drivers was on top, too.
And be a more accurate reflection of what's actually going on.
 
2013-01-13 02:59:19 PM  

kpaxoid: mesmer242: mesmer242: Sticky Hands: letrole: before the internet, cartoons had to be funny or else they didn't get published

Ziggy

Family Circle

Sorry, mistyped that. Family Circus. I'm sure Family Circle isn't funny either though.

It was frequently framed in a circle.


Apparently, my mistype was more correct than I thought, as it was The Family Circle before it was The Family Circus. Family Circle the magazine threatened a lawsuit and they changed the name.

/thanks wikipedia
 
2013-01-13 03:01:29 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: I always pack heat when I cycle, so that if a driver swerves and crushes my legs, I can shoot him in the dick afterwards.


I always keep a gun in the car so if I hit a cyclist and only crush its legs, I can put the thing out of its misery.
 
2013-01-13 03:01:47 PM  
In other words, I will run a red or a stop sign for my convenience while on a bike, and I will travel faster than the posted speed limit for my convenience while in my car. DO any of you do any different?
 
2013-01-13 03:01:53 PM  
On a semi pleasant walk across the Golden Gate Bridge,
I noticed that instead of the annoying little bells to announce that a pedestrian has entered the scared grounds of the rider,
they just yell, " LOOK OUT ASSHOLE "

/keep it classy cyclists
//livestrong
///quit doing dope
 
2013-01-13 03:02:08 PM  

Too_many_Brians: Amishrabbit: As a daily bicycle commuter and model of good road cycling behavior (yes, I stop and sit there at red lights), nothing annoys me more than Jef-esque douches. Guess what, self-important cyclists of the Entitlement Generation: You're not helping the law-abiding, courteous, and Spandex-free road sharers. Just stay home if you can't behave.

This.

As a person who does all of my incity chores by bike, I am so sick of the pompous arrogance of the Lycra brigade as they blow through every law on the road. You want to know why people are so wary of bikes? Because they have no idea what you are going to do next and then they will have their insurance go up because of your dumbass.

/fark Critical Mass


Yep. This.
 
2013-01-13 03:02:16 PM  
I ride to work, and I can say that most motorist are decent human beings. The worst ones are the ones that don't seem to acknowledge your/pedestrians existence. IE: Blocking the cross walk when I have the legal right of way, and once some jerk nearly ran me over. He was going to run a red light, cross walk gave me the right of way and I expected him to stop but he kept on going and then yelled at me afterwards. As for running red lights, etc. I follow above all the rule of looking both ways before I cross the street. If nobody is coming in the direction of the cross walk that I hope to cross, I'm going to cross whether the light is red or not.

I also wave motorist through if they have the right of way, though its sometimes awkward when they wave me through and we both sit there for a moment wanting the other to go. I also sometimes ride on sidewalks, and guess what. I slow down as I approach people, announce myself, and when possible ride around them off the sidewalk.
 
2013-01-13 03:03:04 PM  

Hughlander: I just love when I heard from the cyclist in question who was followed by a cop for a bit in a downtown environment. When he was finally pulled over he was given three tickets for running three red lights. $124 per light.


If he was followed by the cop, then the cop must have run the lights too. I'd rather get hit by a cyclist than a (cop) car.

/of course, I'd rather not get hit at all
 
2013-01-13 03:03:17 PM  
Any problems would be solved if we all drove in Chinese cars and rode German bikes...

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-13 03:03:44 PM  

theorellior: In other words, I will run a red or a stop sign for my convenience while on a bike, and I will travel faster than the posted speed limit for my convenience while in my car. DO any of you do any different?


I don't run reds on my bike. I also rarely speed in a car. Since I drive infrequently, I am very wary of the high speeds.
 
2013-01-13 03:03:59 PM  

PrivateCaboose: JasonOfOrillia: Hamanu: That's funny; as a downhill racer that's how I see road cyclists. Little effete bike riders with tiny bicycles and prissy pants.

/Buy they weally weally twy so hard and it's just so cuuuute.

I don't have a tiny bicycle or prissy pants but you would impress me more if you raced up hills too.

? I just have a bike I bought at Costco. It gets me to and from work, to the grocery store, etc.

I play rugby, I don't need to prove I'm bad ass with a bicycle.


The rugby must explain your inability to read the comment train. He was talking about the downhill racer, not everyone else. Sheesh.

/feel dirty for defending a lycra rider.
 
2013-01-13 03:03:59 PM  

theorellior: Dr Jack Badofsky: So. Cars should wait at that same intersection, but cyclists don't have to because they don't feel like it?

Okay, boys and girls, for all you pious drivers out there who sanctimoniously follow every gorram traffic law out there, I'm gonna laugh the next time there's a red light camera thread or a speeding thread and some of your are all puffing your chests out about how you ride the ass of every milquetoast driver who doesn't know the left lane is for Manly Drivers going 90.


Okay, if you hit me while I'm driving and you kill me with your bike and I so happen to be breaking the law, no hard feelings. If, for some reason, I hit you and kill you while you're breaking the law, oh well. I'm pretty sure law enforcement will see it that way too.
 
2013-01-13 03:04:57 PM  
Sadly true. I won't date cyclists. That's a deal breaker.
 
2013-01-13 03:05:04 PM  

mesmer242: kpaxoid: mesmer242: mesmer242: Sticky Hands: letrole: before the internet, cartoons had to be funny or else they didn't get published

Ziggy

Family Circle

Sorry, mistyped that. Family Circus. I'm sure Family Circle isn't funny either though.

It was frequently framed in a circle.

Apparently, my mistype was more correct than I thought, as it was The Family Circle before it was The Family Circus. Family Circle the magazine threatened a lawsuit and they changed the name.

/thanks wikipedia


Family Circus is supposed to be a bit bland, but once in awhile they surprise on how much they actually pay attention to geeky details:

24.media.tumblr.com

/unedited
/resume the rage
 
2013-01-13 03:05:49 PM  

Too_many_Brians: PrivateCaboose: JasonOfOrillia: Hamanu: That's funny; as a downhill racer that's how I see road cyclists. Little effete bike riders with tiny bicycles and prissy pants.

/Buy they weally weally twy so hard and it's just so cuuuute.

I don't have a tiny bicycle or prissy pants but you would impress me more if you raced up hills too.

? I just have a bike I bought at Costco. It gets me to and from work, to the grocery store, etc.

I play rugby, I don't need to prove I'm bad ass with a bicycle.

The rugby must explain your inability to read the comment train. He was talking about the downhill racer, not everyone else. Sheesh.

/feel dirty for defending a lycra rider.


It was in response to both. I'm on FarkMobile so I can't really respond to each individually.
 
2013-01-13 03:07:03 PM  
And its why we hate cyclists so much, in the city I have no issue but when I am on rural roads get the fark out of he way assholes.
 
2013-01-13 03:07:57 PM  

Watubi: Tip for bicyclists, if you are really hardcore, you buy the heaviest/crappiest bike available and wear normal clothes if you want to get the best workout.


i.imgur.com

Don't forget about adding copious amounts of rolling friction.
 
2013-01-13 03:09:25 PM  

JesusJuice: When I was in college we used to throw water bottles at cyclists who rode way to the left and wouldn't move over.


That obviously makes you superior.
 
2013-01-13 03:10:01 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Okay, if you hit me while I'm driving and you kill me with your bike and I so happen to be breaking the law, no hard feelings.


Remember my comment about 2000 lbs versus 20 lbs? I'm gonna go back to that.

Dr Jack Badofsky: If, for some reason, I hit you and kill you while you're breaking the law, oh well. I'm pretty sure law enforcement will see it that way too.


Motorists can kill cyclists any day of the week, up down and sideways, regardless of whether the cyclist is playing by the rules, so I don't give a rat's ass about laws. I care about riding like I have a target painted on my ass.
 
2013-01-13 03:10:26 PM  
Holy crap, this thread really makes me dislike cyclists.
 
2013-01-13 03:10:55 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: My bike weighs 13 pounds.


upload.wikimedia.org

/my steel-frame MB weighs 31 pounds
 
2013-01-13 03:13:08 PM  

doyner: Quantum Apostrophe: /Proud red light runner since like forever

I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.


Got hit by a red light running bicyclist 2 years ago. I had the green, the cyclist blew the light and hit my left front fender. The sight of her cartwheeling over my hood and *splatting* down in the middle of the intersection is something I will never forget.

/barely dented the fender
//farked her up
 
2013-01-13 03:15:53 PM  

Skyd1v: doyner: Quantum Apostrophe: /Proud red light runner since like forever

I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.

Got hit by a red light running bicyclist 2 years ago. I had the green, the cyclist blew the light and hit my left front fender. The sight of her cartwheeling over my hood and *splatting* down in the middle of the intersection is something I will never forget.

/barely dented the fender
//farked her up


t2.gstatic.com
SAME ROAD SAME RULES MOTHERFARKER, HOW DOES IT WORK?
 
2013-01-13 03:15:56 PM  
static.guim.co.uk
 
2013-01-13 03:15:57 PM  

Skyd1v: doyner: Quantum Apostrophe: /Proud red light runner since like forever

I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.

Got hit by a red light running bicyclist 2 years ago. I had the green, the cyclist blew the light and hit my left front fender. The sight of her cartwheeling over my hood and *splatting* down in the middle of the intersection is something I will never forget.

/barely dented the fender
//farked her up


**shudder**
 
2013-01-13 03:17:22 PM  
I must be that rare breed. I stop (or at least slow down and look carefully) at stop lights and signs and generally act as if I were a car driver. Don't go on the sidewalk unless there is one, nobody is there and the road has potholes. Drivers are pretty good in my area about not getting in my way and I try to return the favor.
 
2013-01-13 03:17:42 PM  
Don't Troll Me Bro!: i.imgur.com

aytm.com

/rides an old school MB 10-16 miles to work 9 months a year (depending on route)
//pussy during our 'winter'
///slashies for bicycles
 
2013-01-13 03:17:55 PM  
Law abiding cyclist here: No spandex, wears a helmet, three lights on my bike, ride in the bike lane whenever humanly possible and in the street, as per AZ law, when there is no bike lane, and stop at traffic signals/signs.

Sidewalk: Emergency use only, when person who doesn't like bicycles doesn't give me the law-required 3 foot berth and is a threat to my life. Hop on and off as quickly as possible.

Problem with sidewalks and roads: People who aren't on bicycles don't know the law. I've had to hop on the sidewalk before to avoid getting splattered, and had people yell at me to get off the sidewalk. I've ridden in bike lanes and had people actually slow down and tell me to "get the hell on the sidewalk."

No-win, no win. Ach.
 
2013-01-13 03:19:17 PM  

stiletto_the_wise: I remember a great cyclist moment.

Where I used to live, the road outside my house was a popular one for those huge long "trains" of 30 cyclists who ignore all traffic laws and in general act like total douchebags. I lived on the intersection of that road and a small road that went to a community behind my block. I've often almost been struck as a pedestrian by these asses. Well, one day, there was a big ol F-350000 huge honkin pick'up truck at the intersection, the light turned green, and he started into the intersection. Just as one of these douche-trains was in the process of ignoring their red light.

That "THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP sound that they made each smacking into the side of the pickup truck made my day. It was probably the most satisfying sound I've ever heard in my life.

/ #2 was afterwards, the shreeking and biatching and moaning from the lawbreaking cyclists picking up their twisted wrecked bikes, who were FURIOUS at the truck driver who dared to enter the intersection on a green light.


So much win.  I'm sure those cyclists looked and didn't see him in the intersection though.
 
2013-01-13 03:19:40 PM  
What burns me up is when I hit a cyclist, they wipe out, then they expect you to stop and help them.

I mean really, what am i, a Doctor?

Give me a break.
 
2013-01-13 03:20:03 PM  
Hmm, I notice the two photos of the car-on-bike-scrum crash scene disappeared from the thread.

I take it that photo is a no-no on Fark?
 
2013-01-13 03:20:53 PM  
I only have one problem with cyclists... not all of them are offenders but the ones that do this are pure evil.

DO NOT try to pass a car in the right lane on the right while that car is making a legal right hand turn. Drivers expect vehicles to follow the rules of the road, when you deviate from one of the most basic (don't pass a car during a turn on the side it's turning to) you will get clocked and you will have deserved it.
 
2013-01-13 03:21:11 PM  

Stone Meadow: Hmm, I notice the two photos of the car-on-bike-scrum crash scene disappeared from the thread.

I take it that photo is a no-no on Fark?


Very much so.  Time-out material.
 
2013-01-13 03:23:05 PM  

doyner: Stone Meadow: Hmm, I notice the two photos of the car-on-bike-scrum crash scene disappeared from the thread.

I take it that photo is a no-no on Fark?

Very much so.  Time-out material.


Thanks
 
2013-01-13 03:23:27 PM  
A sand bike? for zipping across the dunes?
 
2013-01-13 03:23:49 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: If a bike weighs 3000 pounds and has 300 horsepower at its disposal, they might have a point. I have this thing called a brain. It allows me to understand my surroundings and plan my movements. I can stop on a dime. My bike weighs 13 pounds. At worst, someone will have a contusion.
/Proud red light runner since like forever
//Cyclists who smoke and wear headphones and text while cycling are the problem. (I've seen that)
///And don't get me started on Rascals and scooters on the bike path


You have to be trolling, or you're that cyclist in San Francisco that hit and killed a pedestrian then lamented about his helmet being broken. Cyclists on 13 pound bikes do kill pedestrians just as dead as cars do.
 
2013-01-13 03:28:10 PM  
 
2013-01-13 03:29:01 PM  

Glendale: Quantum Apostrophe: If a bike weighs 3000 pounds and has 300 horsepower at its disposal, they might have a point. I have this thing called a brain. It allows me to understand my surroundings and plan my movements. I can stop on a dime. My bike weighs 13 pounds. At worst, someone will have a contusion.
/Proud red light runner since like forever
//Cyclists who smoke and wear headphones and text while cycling are the problem. (I've seen that)
///And don't get me started on Rascals and scooters on the bike path

You have to be trolling, or you're that cyclist in San Francisco that hit and killed a pedestrian then lamented about his helmet being broken. Cyclists on 13 pound bikes do kill pedestrians just as dead as cars do.


The bike weighs 13lbs, but the momentum striking the pedestrian includes the 130-170 lb dickhead riding it.  Physics motherfarker, how does it work?
 
2013-01-13 03:29:01 PM  
Just decide if you are a vehicle or a pedestrian and it's all good.
 
2013-01-13 03:29:54 PM  

orbister: JasonOfOrillia: On the other hand Pedos (Pedestrians) with their constant jaywalking slow things down for everyone as they stroll everywhere with their pedestrians-have-the-right-of-way bullshiat attitude.

Dunno what the rules are there, but over here pedestrians do have the right of way.


In my state pedestrians can't just cross anywhere whenever and expect right of way. There's been plenty of pedestrian vs. car resulting in death of the pedestrian last year where the driver was never even cited because the pedestrian failed to yield to traffic (almost always crossing against a light at a controlled intersection or crossing outside of a crosswalk). The driver still has to live the knowledge of killing someone though.
 
2013-01-13 03:30:02 PM  

Nothing To See Here: What burns me up is when I hit a cyclist, they wipe out, then they expect you to stop and help them.

I mean really, what am i, a Doctor?

Give me a break.


Well, were you in the Police Box lane?
 
2013-01-13 03:30:58 PM  
This cartoon is spot on. Great submission.
 
2013-01-13 03:31:42 PM  

doyner: Glendale: Quantum Apostrophe: If a bike weighs 3000 pounds and has 300 horsepower at its disposal, they might have a point. I have this thing called a brain. It allows me to understand my surroundings and plan my movements. I can stop on a dime. My bike weighs 13 pounds. At worst, someone will have a contusion.
/Proud red light runner since like forever
//Cyclists who smoke and wear headphones and text while cycling are the problem. (I've seen that)
///And don't get me started on Rascals and scooters on the bike path

You have to be trolling, or you're that cyclist in San Francisco that hit and killed a pedestrian then lamented about his helmet being broken. Cyclists on 13 pound bikes do kill pedestrians just as dead as cars do.

The bike weighs 13lbs, but the momentum striking the pedestrian includes the 130-170 lb dickhead riding it.  Physics motherfarker, how does it work?


I know that. Tell the OP who claims otherwise.
 
2013-01-13 03:32:42 PM  
sad but true, i'm afraid.
 
2013-01-13 03:32:53 PM  

Glendale: I know that. Tell the OP who claims otherwise.


I was merely amplifying your statement...
 
2013-01-13 03:33:00 PM  

ElBarto79: There's a reason we don't follow all the rules of the road; no one in a position of authority ever tells us not to. I've blown through red lights with a cop sitting right there watching. They never do anything, ever. You can call us arrogant if you want but if you knew cops wouldn't ticket you for running a red light I'm pretty sure you would do the same thing.

I think of it like this; considering all the crap cyclists have to deal with on a daily basis - getting cut off, cursed at, splashed with water, run into (happened to me a few weeks ago), etc. we deserve to run a few red lights. Don't like it? Too bad, get your own bike and join us.


Moron. I don't stop at a red light because I might get a ticket if I don't. I stop at red lights to increase my chances of dying in bed.
 
2013-01-13 03:33:43 PM  

Too_many_Brians: As a person who does all of my incity chores by bike, I am so sick of the pompous arrogance of the Lycra brigade as they blow through every law on the road. You want to know why people are so wary of bikes? Because they have no idea what you are going to do next and then they will have their insurance go up because of your dumbass.


When I cycle, the behaviour of some car drivers leads me to despair. When I drive, the behaviour of some cyclists leads me to despair. Both sides really need to appreciate the others more: drivers need to know how incredibly vulnerable cyclists are and cyclists need to realise how very difficult it can be for cars to see them, particularly at night, and therefore how important it is to be visible and behave predictably.
 
2013-01-13 03:35:21 PM  

orbister: Too_many_Brians: As a person who does all of my incity chores by bike, I am so sick of the pompous arrogance of the Lycra brigade as they blow through every law on the road. You want to know why people are so wary of bikes? Because they have no idea what you are going to do next and then they will have their insurance go up because of your dumbass.

When I cycle, the behaviour of some car drivers leads me to despair. When I drive, the behaviour of some cyclists leads me to despair. Both sides really need to appreciate the others more: drivers need to know how incredibly vulnerable cyclists are and cyclists need to realise how very difficult it can be for cars to see them, particularly at night, and therefore how important it is to be visible and behave predictably.


THIS.

All I friggin' ask as a motorist.
 
2013-01-13 03:37:01 PM  
I like the local cyclists that change from riding on the sidewalk to the street and back multiple times in a single block, and who try to lane-share and go straight while I am in the midst of turning right.

/I'm on a motorbike, I have arms too.
 
2013-01-13 03:37:34 PM  
I read an article recently that pointed out that many countries in Europe have more cars per capita the USA.

Ha! ha!

Here's an older article in the Atlantic with graphs and everything. The USA now ranks 25th in terms of vehicles per capita. Nonetheless, Americans use a lot more petroleum per capita, which is probably the result of lower gasoline prices, lower taxes, and greater distances to travel, among other things.

In places where car use is relatively low, such as New York City, people use one third as much energy as they do in the rest of America. They are not quite as green perhaps as the frugal French and Germans, but compare well with a number of other countries.

Americans stand out in terms of consumption--even compared to Luxembourgeois, who are much richer per capita, being an industrious enclave of highly specialized, educated, multilingual and semi-socialist, ultra-capitalist go-getters with no natural resources to speak of in their tiny country, which is a sort of Super-Turbo-Charged Switzerland. But a lot of young Americans are no longer interested in the burbs, cars, or even real estate. They live for their cellphones, laptops and coffee.

Like me, they figure that most places that are worth visiting can be reached by walking or by flying, with maybe a bus trip or community car involved on occasion when absolutely necessary.

There are some caveats. The definition of a vehicle can be a catch because Americans have a lot of SUVs, pickups and Minivans which may or may not count, but if they do count, Americans are still no longer the Kings of Cars. They've outgrown that phase or can't afford to drive any more.
 
2013-01-13 03:38:13 PM  

doyner: Very much so.  Time-out material.


Why? Was it a fatal accident?
 
2013-01-13 03:38:20 PM  

doyner: The bike weighs 13lbs, but the momentum striking the pedestrian includes the 130-170 lb dickhead riding it.


Still a lot less than 2000 pounds, plus 200-300 pounds for the driver and another 200-300 for each passenger. ('Cuz people who drive everywhere are fat, donchaknow.)

Physics motherfarker, how does it work?

Indeed. 2000 pounds x 60mph > > > 200 pounds x 10mph
 
2013-01-13 03:38:30 PM  
This thread is full of Schwinn.
 
2013-01-13 03:38:37 PM  

BinderWoman: My cyclist husband pointed this comic out to me because I am constantly complaining about arrogant cyclists. Not only running red lights & stop signs but, my biggest complaint, riding 3,4 or 5 abreast when cars have to share the road.


And then they flip you off because you deign to drive around them in the other lane.
 
2013-01-13 03:38:59 PM  
www.tonyrogers.com
 
2013-01-13 03:40:18 PM  

orbister: doyner: Very much so.  Time-out material.

Why? Was it a fatal accident?


Very.  Several killed.

fredklein: doyner: The bike weighs 13lbs, but the momentum striking the pedestrian includes the 130-170 lb dickhead riding it.

Still a lot less than 2000 pounds, plus 200-300 pounds for the driver and another 200-300 for each passenger. ('Cuz people who drive everywhere are fat, donchaknow.)

Physics motherfarker, how does it work?

Indeed. 2000 pounds x 60mph > > > 200 pounds x 10mph


That post was in response to the cyclist-hits-pedestrian-story.

Context motherfarker, how does it work?
t2.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-13 03:40:20 PM  

Spanky McStupid: BinderWoman: My cyclist husband pointed this comic out to me because I am constantly complaining about arrogant cyclists. Not only running red lights & stop signs but, my biggest complaint, riding 3,4 or 5 abreast when cars have to share the road.

And then they flip you off because you deign to drive around them in the other lane.


I am tempted to ride my motorbike between bikes riding 2 abreast on 55 mph country roads almost every time I see them.
 
2013-01-13 03:40:40 PM  

orbister: cyclists need to realise how very difficult it can be for cars to see them


If it's difficult for you to see me, even at night, you are either not paying attention or you need to consult an optometrist.  I'm dressed head to toe in reflective clothing and have 4 blinking lights on my bike.

/ "Don't give me the finger, I didn't see you" is one of my favorite quotes from a lady who almost ran me down.  Oh, well, if you weren't paying attention, I guess that makes almost killing me totally ok...
 
2013-01-13 03:41:35 PM  

letrole: before the internet, cartoons had to be funny or else they didn't get published


Not so. A lot of the older comics in the 30s, 40s, and 50s, and probably earlier weren't so much humor as serial stories. Things like The Phantom, soap opera comics, crime detective, and so on. Humor is more common now. Or at least the attempt.
 
2013-01-13 03:41:51 PM  

doyner: Glendale: I know that. Tell the OP who claims otherwise.

I was merely amplifying your statement...


Ah, carry on.
 
2013-01-13 03:41:56 PM  

serial_crusher: orbister: cyclists need to realise how very difficult it can be for cars to see them

If it's difficult for you to see me, even at night, you are either not paying attention or you need to consult an optometrist.  I'm dressed head to toe in reflective clothing and have 4 blinking lights on my bike.

/ "Don't give me the finger, I didn't see you" is one of my favorite quotes from a lady who almost ran me down.  Oh, well, if you weren't paying attention, I guess that makes almost killing me totally ok...


If you die because a car didn't see you, you're still farking dead. Blame the driver if you want, but you're still dead.
 
2013-01-13 03:43:36 PM  

Chilimac: Law abiding cyclist here: No spandex, wears a helmet, three lights on my bike, ride in the bike lane whenever humanly possible and in the street, as per AZ law, when there is no bike lane, and stop at traffic signals/signs.

Sidewalk: Emergency use only, when person who doesn't like bicycles doesn't give me the law-required 3 foot berth and is a threat to my life. Hop on and off as quickly as possible.

Problem with sidewalks and roads: People who aren't on bicycles don't know the law. I've had to hop on the sidewalk before to avoid getting splattered, and had people yell at me to get off the sidewalk. I've ridden in bike lanes and had people actually slow down and tell me to "get the hell on the sidewalk."

No-win, no win. Ach.


Back in '84, I was commuting to work on my road bike one day (a 66 CM Casati, with a real mix of components). One of the streets I had to use was a two lane one way, with a bike lane on the right hand side. When I would turn left on to this street (from a left turn lane, only on the green arrow) I would stay in the left lane until the road was clear, then move over to the right, where the bike lane was. One morning I turned left, then looked back to see a car not very far behind. I continued on, looked back again, it's still there. Looked back again, it's a little closer, but still there. I'm beginning to get frustrated, as I would like to move over to the bike lane, and I'm waiting for this car to pass me so I can do so. The car finally catches up to me, and I look over to see a driver who bore an unfortunate resemblance to Jabba the Hut. "Why aren't you in the bike lane?" she asked as she slowly passed me (I was young and in shape, and this road was slightly down sloping, so without hammering it I was probably going twenty MPH, with her probably going twenty five in a thirty five).
 
2013-01-13 03:43:39 PM  

doyner: orbister: doyner: Very much so.  Time-out material.

Why? Was it a fatal accident?

Very.  Several killed.]


Thanks. I've never been able to work out precisely what the rules are, and the FAQ isn't much help. "Nobody actually dying" they say, but that picture of a Viet Cong chap shooting someone in the head seems fine.
 
2013-01-13 03:43:42 PM  
Did you hear about the Prostitute on a bike?

She used to pedal her ass on the road.
 
2013-01-13 03:44:22 PM  

Glendale: Cyclists on 13 pound bikes do kill pedestrians just as dead as cars do.


The number of pedestrians killed by cars is probably four orders of magnitude greater.
 
2013-01-13 03:45:35 PM  

theorellior: Glendale: Cyclists on 13 pound bikes do kill pedestrians just as dead as cars do.

The number of pedestrians killed by cars is probably four orders of magnitude greater.


And yet no one is defending dickhead drivers....
 
2013-01-13 03:48:25 PM  

serial_crusher: orbister: cyclists need to realise how very difficult it can be for cars to see them

If it's difficult for you to see me, even at night, you are either not paying attention or you need to consult an optometrist.  I'm dressed head to toe in reflective clothing and have 4 blinking lights on my bike.


You'll note that I wrote "how difficult it can be" in a comment about "some cyclists". You sound pretty visible, though I do hope you have at least one fixed light front and back as well. Flashing lights are good for drawing attention to yourself but very bad for actually establishing your position and velocity in a driver's mind. Fluorescent clothing is good in the day time and reflective stuff unbeatable at night.

My pet peeve in this area is (are?) the cyclists who wear one puny little white light at night on their helmets. They either don't care or don't realise that when they stop in the road to turn right (left, in US terms) and look down the road they are entering, they become invisible to oncoming traffic.

Sure, cover yourself and your bike with flashing lights, but have at least one BFO steady white light to the front and one BFO steady red lightto the back.
 
2013-01-13 03:48:55 PM  
knstrct.com
Here in Canada, we go everywhere..brah.
 
2013-01-13 03:49:00 PM  

doyner: And yet no one is defending dickhead drivers....


I'm not defending dickhead cyclists. The last think I want to do is hit a pedestrian. It would really fark up my day, since I'm, you know, on a bike and not in a car.

I don't ride like a dick. I ride defensively. Cars can kill me just as look at me sideways. But just as drivers break laws for their own convenience every damn day without any repercussions, I'm gonna do the same on my bike.
 
2013-01-13 03:49:42 PM  
A bicycling thread... I like to think of these as the original gun threads. Lots of internet tough guys bragging how tough they like to injure other human beings.

The only easier troll is saying that you drive 55 in the passing lane.
 
2013-01-13 03:49:54 PM  

doyner: theorellior: Glendale: Cyclists on 13 pound bikes do kill pedestrians just as dead as cars do.

The number of pedestrians killed by cars is probably four orders of magnitude greater.

And yet no one is defending dickhead drivers....


cdn.ebaumsworld.com
 
2013-01-13 03:51:02 PM  

doyner: orbister: doyner: Very much so.  Time-out material.

Why? Was it a fatal accident?

Very.  Several killed.


One, actually. Not that that makes it any better.

1 dead as car plows into Mexican bike race (NSFW...or Fark)
 
2013-01-13 03:51:04 PM  

serial_crusher: orbister: cyclists need to realise how very difficult it can be for cars to see them

If it's difficult for you to see me, even at night, you are either not paying attention or you need to consult an optometrist.  I'm dressed head to toe in reflective clothing and have 4 blinking lights on my bike.

/ "Don't give me the finger, I didn't see you" is one of my favorite quotes from a lady who almost ran me down.  Oh, well, if you weren't paying attention, I guess that makes almost killing me totally ok...


Was she old? My wife likes to tell the story of how her grandmother thought she (the grandmother) got better at driving. She said, "I must be getting better, other drivers have stopped flipping me off and cursing at me." To which my wife responded, "No, Granny, you just stopped seeing and hearing them."

Apparently, she routinely ran red lights and stop signs because she didn't notice them. Fortunately, she stopped driving not long after that, but she still technically had her license. Hell, she even passed the state exam to get it renewed. (new York, I think).

/scary, ain't it?
 
2013-01-13 03:51:26 PM  
If you think cyclists are bad.....let me introduce you to MYSELF! I'm a whole different (and worse) breed....

I started off as a 'cyclist' after moving to a new country. Without a car, or a license, or wanting to learn to drive on the other side of the road; I decided to use a bicycle to commute to work. I quickly learned that laws don't apply to cyclists. If a light is red and I can go, I go. Stop signs are optional. If it suits me I jump from the road to the side-walk.

But then I started reading about electric bicycles....

Now, traffic enforcement is a lot more lax here than in the US. I rarely ever see a car pulled over by a cop. But it is non-existent for bicycles. And, electric bicycles (or in my case, a kit added to a traditional bicycle) look just like bicycles. Under the law here, I can have up to a 250W motor and a top assist-speed of ~15mph.

That didn't sound very appealing. So I did some searching online and found an 'off-road' kit. It's completely not street legal but it looks indistinguishable from a legal kit. It's either 350w or 400w, I honestly don't remember - but it's basically a very crappy motorcycle.

Not only do I get to break all sorts of traffic laws, like going through red lights/stop signs and riding on the sidewalk; I can trivially keep pace with Lance Armstrong.
 
2013-01-13 03:51:56 PM  
Did she sue?

/l'm from NJ so that was my first thought.
 
2013-01-13 03:53:18 PM  

doyner: theorellior: Glendale: Cyclists on 13 pound bikes do kill pedestrians just as dead as cars do.

The number of pedestrians killed by cars is probably four orders of magnitude greater.

And yet no one is defending dickhead drivers....


Maybe not implicitly...
 
2013-01-13 03:53:29 PM  

Repo Man: Chilimac: Law abiding cyclist here: No spandex, wears a helmet, three lights on my bike, ride in the bike lane whenever humanly possible and in the street, as per AZ law, when there is no bike lane, and stop at traffic signals/signs.

Sidewalk: Emergency use only, when person who doesn't like bicycles doesn't give me the law-required 3 foot berth and is a threat to my life. Hop on and off as quickly as possible.

Problem with sidewalks and roads: People who aren't on bicycles don't know the law. I've had to hop on the sidewalk before to avoid getting splattered, and had people yell at me to get off the sidewalk. I've ridden in bike lanes and had people actually slow down and tell me to "get the hell on the sidewalk."

No-win, no win. Ach.

Back in '84, I was commuting to work on my road bike one day (a 66 CM Casati, with a real mix of components). One of the streets I had to use was a two lane one way, with a bike lane on the right hand side. When I would turn left on to this street (from a left turn lane, only on the green arrow) I would stay in the left lane until the road was clear, then move over to the right, where the bike lane was. One morning I turned left, then looked back to see a car not very far behind. I continued on, looked back again, it's still there. Looked back again, it's a little closer, but still there. I'm beginning to get frustrated, as I would like to move over to the bike lane, and I'm waiting for this car to pass me so I can do so. The car finally catches up to me, and I look over to see a driver who bore an unfortunate resemblance to Jabba the Hut. "Why aren't you in the bike lane?" she asked as she slowly passed me (I was young and in shape, and this road was slightly down sloping, so without hammering it I was probably going twenty MPH, with her probably going twenty five in a thirty five).


That doesn't compute to me.  Take your left turn straight into the bike lane.
Don't understand why you expected her to pass you on the right.
 
2013-01-13 03:53:29 PM  

Stone Meadow: doyner: orbister: doyner: Very much so.  Time-out material.

Why? Was it a fatal accident?

Very.  Several killed.

One, actually. Not that that makes it any better.

1 dead as car plows into Mexican bike race (NSFW...or Fark)


Ah.  I must be thinking of a different car-plows-through-gaggle-of-cyclists-story.  I do remember that the drivers were nabbed by Mexican police for it.
 
2013-01-13 03:53:43 PM  
I am a cyclist.

I stop at all stop signs.

I stop at all red lights. Under normal circumstances, I cross only when the signal is green. If I am unable to trigger a light change due to the absence of a crosswalk signal and an inability to trigger the pressure sensor, I will -- after verifying an absence of traffic in any direction -- dismount and walk across the intersection as a pedestrian.

I cycle only on roads, avoiding sidewalks. I yield to crossing pedestrians. I keep to the right side of the road and allow ample passing space, unless I am making an imminent left turn.

I use a front-mounted light, a rear light and a helmet light to maintain illumination at night. I also wear reflecting equipment on my legs and on my arms.

I have recently attached an air horn; its purpose is only to use as an audio signal to drivers who endanger my safety through their own violation of traffic laws such as a failure to yield appropriate right of way at a stop sign.

Is anyone able to explain how, exactly, I believe non-cyclists to be "scum" or how I am a "douche"?
 
2013-01-13 03:53:57 PM  
I don't worry about cyclists cutting me off. I have one of these:
images.canadianlisted.com
 
2013-01-13 03:54:02 PM  

theorellior: Glendale: Cyclists on 13 pound bikes do kill pedestrians just as dead as cars do.

The number of pedestrians killed by cars is probably four orders of magnitude greater.


That doesn't change the fact that cyclists can kill pedestrians the same way cars can. I don't think cyclists should get a free pass at killing pedestrians just because it wasn't with a car, even if it is infrequent. But that's just like, my opinion, man.
 
2013-01-13 03:54:15 PM  

theorellior: doyner: And yet no one is defending dickhead drivers....

I'm not defending dickhead cyclists. The last think I want to do is hit a pedestrian. It would really fark up my day, since I'm, you know, on a bike and not in a car.

I don't ride like a dick. I ride defensively. Cars can kill me just as look at me sideways. But just as drivers break laws for their own convenience every damn day without any repercussions, I'm gonna do the same on my bike.


I haven't met many drivers who see blowing through red lights or randomly changing behavior from that of a motor vehicle to that of a pedestrian as not only okay, but their god-given right.

Cyclists, on the other hand...
 
2013-01-13 03:54:28 PM  

Mercutio74: I only have one problem with cyclists... not all of them are offenders but the ones that do this are pure evil.

DO NOT try to pass a car in the right lane on the right while that car is making a legal right hand turn. Drivers expect vehicles to follow the rules of the road, when you deviate from one of the most basic (don't pass a car during a turn on the side it's turning to) you will get clocked and you will have deserved it.


Matter of perception. I am riding my bike in the bike lane, which in on the right. A car comes up behind me in their right lane, which is to my left, and overtakes me in order to make a right turn. I smack into the car which has just cut me off.

You would not do this to a car. It would be insane.
 
2013-01-13 03:55:43 PM  

Dimensio: I am a cyclist.

I stop at all stop signs.

I stop at all red lights. Under normal circumstances, I cross only when the signal is green. If I am unable to trigger a light change due to the absence of a crosswalk signal and an inability to trigger the pressure sensor, I will -- after verifying an absence of traffic in any direction -- dismount and walk across the intersection as a pedestrian.

I cycle only on roads, avoiding sidewalks. I yield to crossing pedestrians. I keep to the right side of the road and allow ample passing space, unless I am making an imminent left turn.

I use a front-mounted light, a rear light and a helmet light to maintain illumination at night. I also wear reflecting equipment on my legs and on my arms.

I have recently attached an air horn; its purpose is only to use as an audio signal to drivers who endanger my safety through their own violation of traffic laws such as a failure to yield appropriate right of way at a stop sign.

Is anyone able to explain how, exactly, I believe non-cyclists to be "scum" or how I am a "douche"?


Ask the cartoonist in TFA.  You're fine in my book.
 
2013-01-13 03:55:47 PM  
I have to say the GoPro camera and their like have made cycling a lot more enjoyable. Every few weeks I hear about an asshole driver who was arrested because of video footage of hitting a cyclist and not stopping.
 
2013-01-13 03:56:54 PM  

Dimensio: Is anyone able to explain how, exactly, I believe non-cyclists to be "scum" or how I am a "douche"?


Like many groups, you as an individual get the resulting negative attitude fostered by the dick moves of other asshole cyclists.
 
2013-01-13 03:59:03 PM  

Chilimac: Mercutio74: I only have one problem with cyclists... not all of them are offenders but the ones that do this are pure evil.

DO NOT try to pass a car in the right lane on the right while that car is making a legal right hand turn. Drivers expect vehicles to follow the rules of the road, when you deviate from one of the most basic (don't pass a car during a turn on the side it's turning to) you will get clocked and you will have deserved it.

Matter of perception. I am riding my bike in the bike lane, which in on the right. A car comes up behind me in their right lane, which is to my left, and overtakes me in order to make a right turn. I smack into the car which has just cut me off.

You would not do this to a car. It would be insane.


I have had a cyclist come behind me and attempt this (I was slowed due to a traffic light) four times in the last two years. I have done this to a cyclist never times. Hell, I even wait for cyclists (and pedestrians) in my way to completely cross the street safely before I make a left or right turn from a side street, the way decent people should.
 
2013-01-13 04:02:26 PM  

Chilimac: Mercutio74: I only have one problem with cyclists... not all of them are offenders but the ones that do this are pure evil.

DO NOT try to pass a car in the right lane on the right while that car is making a legal right hand turn. Drivers expect vehicles to follow the rules of the road, when you deviate from one of the most basic (don't pass a car during a turn on the side it's turning to) you will get clocked and you will have deserved it.

Matter of perception. I am riding my bike in the bike lane, which in on the right. A car comes up behind me in their right lane, which is to my left, and overtakes me in order to make a right turn. I smack into the car which has just cut me off.

You would not do this to a car. It would be insane.


Yeah, I would like clarification from Mercutio74 on whether there was a bike lane there or not.  The right hook is one of the most frequent things motorists get wrong.
The proper thing to do is to <b>merge into the bike lane</b> before turning.  <b>Do not turn across the bike lane</b> , especially when it is occupied.
Also, get to be a better judge of other vehicles' speeds.  People usually think they have enough room to pass you, then all of a sudden turn right.  Keep in mind that when your car makes a 90 degree turn, it is effectively stopped, and now I'm heading towards it at 25-30mph.  There needs to be a lot of space for that to work out safely.  Merge behind me and sow down until I clear the intersection.  It will only take you 5 or 10 seconds longer than your life threatening alternative.
 
2013-01-13 04:03:57 PM  

serial_crusher: Chilimac: Mercutio74: I only have one problem with cyclists... not all of them are offenders but the ones that do this are pure evil.

DO NOT try to pass a car in the right lane on the right while that car is making a legal right hand turn. Drivers expect vehicles to follow the rules of the road, when you deviate from one of the most basic (don't pass a car during a turn on the side it's turning to) you will get clocked and you will have deserved it.

Matter of perception. I am riding my bike in the bike lane, which in on the right. A car comes up behind me in their right lane, which is to my left, and overtakes me in order to make a right turn. I smack into the car which has just cut me off.

You would not do this to a car. It would be insane.

Yeah, I would like clarification from Mercutio74 on whether there was a bike lane there or not.  The right hook is one of the most frequent things motorists get wrong.
The proper thing to do is to <b>merge into the bike lane</b> before turning.  <b>Do not turn across the bike lane</b> , especially when it is occupied.
Also, get to be a better judge of other vehicles' speeds.  People usually think they have enough room to pass you, then all of a sudden turn right.  Keep in mind that when your car makes a 90 degree turn, it is effectively stopped, and now I'm heading towards it at 25-30mph.  There needs to be a lot of space for that to work out safely.  Merge behind me and sow down until I clear the intersection.  It will only take you 5 or 10 seconds longer than your life threatening alternative.


I always yield when there is an occupied bike lane.

People try to ride right through me when there isn't a bike lane, I'm in mid-turn, and my turn signal has been on for over 30 seconds. What the fark are they thinking?
 
2013-01-13 04:04:39 PM  

Carth: I have to say the GoPro camera and their like have made cycling a lot more enjoyable. Every few weeks I hear about an asshole driver who was arrested because of video footage of hitting a cyclist and not stopping.


This.  It might be coincidence, but when I added a clearly visible camera to my helmet, car drivers around me seemed to start behaving themselves a lot better.
 
2013-01-13 04:04:58 PM  
How I see cyclist
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2013-01-13 04:06:13 PM  

serial_crusher: Repo Man: Chilimac: Law abiding cyclist here: No spandex, wears a helmet, three lights on my bike, ride in the bike lane whenever humanly possible and in the street, as per AZ law, when there is no bike lane, and stop at traffic signals/signs.

Sidewalk: Emergency use only, when person who doesn't like bicycles doesn't give me the law-required 3 foot berth and is a threat to my life. Hop on and off as quickly as possible.

Problem with sidewalks and roads: People who aren't on bicycles don't know the law. I've had to hop on the sidewalk before to avoid getting splattered, and had people yell at me to get off the sidewalk. I've ridden in bike lanes and had people actually slow down and tell me to "get the hell on the sidewalk."

No-win, no win. Ach.

Back in '84, I was commuting to work on my road bike one day (a 66 CM Casati, with a real mix of components). One of the streets I had to use was a two lane one way, with a bike lane on the right hand side. When I would turn left on to this street (from a left turn lane, only on the green arrow) I would stay in the left lane until the road was clear, then move over to the right, where the bike lane was. One morning I turned left, then looked back to see a car not very far behind. I continued on, looked back again, it's still there. Looked back again, it's a little closer, but still there. I'm beginning to get frustrated, as I would like to move over to the bike lane, and I'm waiting for this car to pass me so I can do so. The car finally catches up to me, and I look over to see a driver who bore an unfortunate resemblance to Jabba the Hut. "Why aren't you in the bike lane?" she asked as she slowly passed me (I was young and in shape, and this road was slightly down sloping, so without hammering it I was probably going twenty MPH, with her probably going twenty five in a thirty five).

That doesn't compute to me.  Take your left turn straight into the bike lane.
Don't understand why you expected her to pass you on the rig ...


Actually, now that I remember it, I wouldn't always wait for the green arrow; I was turning left onto a one way street, so I could legally turn left on a red. So long as the oncoming traffic was far enough back, that's exactly what I would do. In this case, oncoming traffic was far enough back so that I could turn onto the road, but close enough so that I would wait until they passed before moving over (and remember, it was a two lane road, so I would have to wait until both lanes were clear). This was fine with most people, but she was a bit confused.
 
2013-01-13 04:07:14 PM  

theorellior: special20: Why must we have to share the road with the uninsured, untaxed, and unlicensed vehicles?

Because we pay sales taxes too and don't damage the roadbed?


It costs money to remove the smear you left when you got creamed by a truck when you ran the red light.  A lot more than the sales tax you paid one time for your bike.  So shut the hell up.
 
2013-01-13 04:07:21 PM  

ph0rk: I haven't met many drivers who see blowing through red lights or randomly changing behavior from that of a motor vehicle to that of a pedestrian as not only okay, but their god-given right.


A bicycle is not a motor vehicle. It is a human-powered conveyance. It it not an automobile, and it is not a pedestrian. It is a conceit of the law that a bicycle is considered a motor vehicle, and most of the traffic laws were written when there wasn't much difference between the top speeds of a bicycle or a motorcar. As they're written, they're a joke for the present day. A 20-lb tube-build conveyance with a top speed of 20 mph has much more similarity to a pedestrian than to a 2000 lb enclosed conveyance with a top speed of 120 mph.
 
2013-01-13 04:07:24 PM  
So my office is moving, and between Palo Alto speed limits and the nearest parking being a half mile away, I'm considering buying a bike and biking to work.

Anything I should know, do, etc? Advice on what to look for in a bike?

/Last time I rode a bike, I was 16.
//Also, suburbs where riding in the street was a stupid idiot move (because of 45 MPH speed limits + no bike lanes), and riding on the sidewalk was legal. Not so much here.
 
2013-01-13 04:08:20 PM  

OgreMagi: It costs money to remove the smear you left when you got creamed by a truck when you ran the red light. A lot more than the sales tax you paid one time for your bike. So shut the hell up.


Sounds like that blister on your accelerator foot is acting up again. You might want to get more comfy driving shoes.
 
2013-01-13 04:09:08 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Watubi: Tip for bicyclists, if you are really hardcore, you buy the heaviest/crappiest bike available and wear normal clothes if you want to get the best workout.

Don't forget about adding copious amounts of rolling friction.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-13 04:09:34 PM  

Stone Meadow: Don't Troll Me Bro!: [i.imgur.com image 850x637]

[aytm.com image 556x413]

/rides an old school MB 10-16 miles to work 9 months a year (depending on route)
//pussy during our 'winter'
///slashies for bicycles


Not mine, coworker's. Rode it once. It's like riding on a cloud. I think he said there's 1.5 psi, so the tires ride like pillows, but so much rolling friction. Dude rides that to work every day in the winter. Even when we had that blizzard that dumped 18" a couple weeks back he rode that thing in. His quads look like he stole them from a speedskater.
 
2013-01-13 04:10:11 PM  

theorellior: Dr Jack Badofsky: So. Cars should wait at that same intersection, but cyclists don't have to because they don't feel like it?

Okay, boys and girls, for all you pious drivers out there who sanctimoniously follow every gorram traffic law out there, I'm gonna laugh the next time there's a red light camera thread or a speeding thread and some of your are all puffing your chests out about how you ride the ass of every milquetoast driver who doesn't know the left lane is for Manly Drivers going 90.


You obviously aren't paying attention to the red-light camera threads.  The complaint is they shorten the yellow to a dangerous level all too often when they install the cameras.  If the yellow was a reasonable length, people wouldn't be complaining about the cameras.
 
2013-01-13 04:11:17 PM  

Chilimac: Law abiding cyclist here: No spandex, wears a helmet, three lights on my bike, ride in the bike lane whenever humanly possible and in the street, as per AZ law, when there is no bike lane, and stop at traffic signals/signs.

Sidewalk: Emergency use only, when person who doesn't like bicycles doesn't give me the law-required 3 foot berth and is a threat to my life. Hop on and off as quickly as possible.

Problem with sidewalks and roads: People who aren't on bicycles don't know the law. I've had to hop on the sidewalk before to avoid getting splattered, and had people yell at me to get off the sidewalk. I've ridden in bike lanes and had people actually slow down and tell me to "get the hell on the sidewalk."

No-win, no win. Ach.



Several years ago my husband hit a college girl in Tempe as we were turning right to exit a parking lot. She was riding against traffic, on the sidewalk (no bike lane). Of course, he was looking more to the left for oncoming traffic & she came zooming up on the right. I was in the front passenger seat & didn't see her until the last second. Fortunately, we were going slowly & just hit her front wheel - knocked her off the bike but she only had scrapes. She didn't want us to call an ambulance or the police. She apologized & said she shouldn't have been riding where she was but it really shook us all up.
 
2013-01-13 04:12:18 PM  

Chilimac: Matter of perception. I am riding my bike in the bike lane, which in on the right. A car comes up behind me in their right lane, which is to my left, and overtakes me in order to make a right turn. I smack into the car which has just cut me off.


This nearly happened to me last November. I was riding in the bike lane when a person passed me in the right vehicle lane, slammed on the brakes and made an unsignaled right turn immediately in front of me. I in turn had to slam on the brakes to avoid the over-the-right-rear-fender collision.

When I'm riding 20 mph (my normal speed on that boulevard) I'm covering 30 feet per second. Drivers who think a one car length lead is enough to make a safe right turn in front of you are risking your life.
 
2013-01-13 04:12:29 PM  

serial_crusher: Carth: I have to say the GoPro camera and their like have made cycling a lot more enjoyable. Every few weeks I hear about an asshole driver who was arrested because of video footage of hitting a cyclist and not stopping.

This.  It might be coincidence, but when I added a clearly visible camera to my helmet, car drivers around me seemed to start behaving themselves a lot better.


That sure didn't seem to help this guy.
 
2013-01-13 04:15:08 PM  

Dimensio: I am a cyclist.

I stop at all stop signs.

I stop at all red lights. Under normal circumstances, I cross only when the signal is green. If I am unable to trigger a light change due to the absence of a crosswalk signal and an inability to trigger the pressure sensor, I will -- after verifying an absence of traffic in any direction -- dismount and walk across the intersection as a pedestrian.

I cycle only on roads, avoiding sidewalks. I yield to crossing pedestrians. I keep to the right side of the road and allow ample passing space, unless I am making an imminent left turn.

I use a front-mounted light, a rear light and a helmet light to maintain illumination at night. I also wear reflecting equipment on my legs and on my arms.

I have recently attached an air horn; its purpose is only to use as an audio signal to drivers who endanger my safety through their own violation of traffic laws such as a failure to yield appropriate right of way at a stop sign.

Is anyone able to explain how, exactly, I believe non-cyclists to be "scum" or how I am a "douche"?


If all cyclists acted as you do (and as I did when I rode) then no cyclists would be douches. Of course, we do then still have the issue of motorists who can't be as considerate or responsible.
 
2013-01-13 04:15:08 PM  

OgreMagi: You obviously aren't paying attention to the red-light camera threads. The complaint is they shorten the yellow to a dangerous level all too often when they install the cameras. If the yellow was a reasonable length, people wouldn't be complaining about the cameras.


They're still breaking the law for their own convenience, albeit the convenience of not coming to a shuddering halt halfway in the intersection.

Basically, it's the motes in the eyes of cyclists that cause the beams in driver's eyes to get all irritated, which explains all the butthurt.
 
2013-01-13 04:16:38 PM  
Wow, this thread has made me super happy with my informed decision to be a pedestrian. I can stroll, occasionally even strut. I can listen to an mp3 player while smoking a cigarette or blunt with one hand and eating a cheeseburger with the other. Nobody gives a shiat or even notices me unless I do something stupid and dangerous like cross against the light.

I totally win.
 
2013-01-13 04:17:23 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Not mine, coworker's. Rode it once. It's like riding on a cloud. I think he said there's 1.5 psi, so the tires ride like pillows, but so much rolling friction. Dude rides that to work every day in the winter. Even when we had that blizzard that dumped 18" a couple weeks back he rode that thing in. His quads look like he stole them from a speedskater.


Yeah, I can believe it. I use 2.5" MB tires with low pressure, but nothing like that. I have to admit I'm a wimp, though, and won't ride in the rain or when it's below about 50 degrees. My BiL rides 10 miles to work every day, though, rain or shine. Of course, we don't get snow, or even hardly ever freezing temps. Still, we get a bit of rain over the winter.
 
2013-01-13 04:18:53 PM  

doyner: Ask the cartoonist in TFA.  You're fine in my book.


The lycra brigades like to distinguish between "cyclists" (people like me) and "people on bikes" (people like them, and possibly like you), just as they like to distinguish between "bicycles" (what I ride) and "bicycle shaped objects" (what they ride, and possibly what you ride.

I used to live next to a bike shop which sold £6,000 (that's $10,000) bicycles. I suspect that the people buying them are the same sort of people who buy $10,000 stereo interconnects. Every hobby has its hierarchy.
 
2013-01-13 04:19:56 PM  
Also, there is no need for me to wear wicked gay lycra or reflectors, I don't have to pay tax or registration fees on my shoes, don't have to carry ID, and have absolutely zero fear that my own stupidity or inability to pay attention to a thousand things at once is going to get somebody hurt.

Being a pedestrian is the shiat!
 
2013-01-13 04:22:07 PM  

Repo Man: serial_crusher: Carth: I have to say the GoPro camera and their like have made cycling a lot more enjoyable. Every few weeks I hear about an asshole driver who was arrested because of video footage of hitting a cyclist and not stopping.

This.  It might be coincidence, but when I added a clearly visible camera to my helmet, car drivers around me seemed to start behaving themselves a lot better.

That sure didn't seem to help this guy.


Well, I do have my own youTube channel.
That guy's complaining about some pretty benign stuff though.

/Just noticed two of my best videos got deleted somehow.  Thanks, YouTube.
 
2013-01-13 04:22:28 PM  
I love the videos of bicyclists being run over.  I wish they had a channel for that on cable.
 
2013-01-13 04:23:52 PM  
I love to drive my car, and I love to ride my bike.

If you trick yourself into thinking that YOU are the most important thing on the road, it doesn't matter whether you're biking or driving. You're an asshole, and you'll have to live with people treating you like one.

On the other hand, you could think of other people and watch out for them, no matter what you're doing on the road, and people will respect that.

CSB Time:

Yesterday I was at Disney, which is like, a Mecca for rude people or something. Try walking there for more than 5 minutes, you'll be bumped, rammed, or (in my wife's case) pinched.

Anyway, we're getting off this ride, there's a good few people around us, and this kid, about 10 years old, comes running down the walkway behind us, just about bangs into my wife, shoves his way past her, and then proceeds to shove his way between three little girls farther down. No "Scuse me," no "pardon me."

He was too important in his own mind to worry about anybody else. I didn't mind it too much when he shoved past us, but I wanted to just grab his T-shirt and yank him back when I saw him push past someone smaller than him. "Clumsy AND rude is no way to go through life, son!" I yelled after him.

Moral of the story: just treat people decent no matter where you go, and maybe people won't think you're a dick.
 
2013-01-13 04:24:52 PM  
206 comments and not one about lane filtering or lane splitting?

The most hated thing about cyclists is the following: Cyclists lane filtering and causing backups. A cyclist backing up traffic in a one-lane because the same-direction-traffic can't pass at speed and must slow and wait for a passing opportunity. And then everyone gets to a light, and the cyclist lane filters to the front. So the same 20 cars have to slowly pass the cyclist again. Then 2 miles down the road, another light. Repeat.
 
2013-01-13 04:26:08 PM  

Jument: count the drivers who make rolling stops and rolling turns on red.


Does anybody have stats on how many fatalities are caused by this? I'm guessing it's resonable close to zero.
 
2013-01-13 04:27:05 PM  

nickerj1: The most hated thing about cyclists is the following: Cyclists lane filtering and causing backups. A cyclist backing up traffic in a one-lane because the same-direction-traffic can't pass at speed and must slow and wait for a passing opportunity. And then everyone gets to a light, and the cyclist lane filters to the front. So the same 20 cars have to slowly pass the cyclist again. Then 2 miles down the road, another light. Repeat.


Why do you hate a cyclist following the rules of the road as best he is able? Should he just jump on the sidewalk? Run the light so he can get ahead of the pack? Or just not ride his bike at all?
 
2013-01-13 04:29:40 PM  

radarlove: Wow, this thread has made me super happy with my informed decision to be a pedestrian. I can stroll, occasionally even strut. I can listen to an mp3 player while smoking a cigarette or blunt with one hand and eating a cheeseburger with the other. Nobody gives a shiat or even notices me unless I do something stupid and dangerous like cross against the light.

I totally win.


radarlove: Also, there is no need for me to wear wicked gay lycra or reflectors, I don't have to pay tax or registration fees on my shoes, don't have to carry ID, and have absolutely zero fear that my own stupidity or inability to pay attention to a thousand things at once is going to get somebody hurt.

Being a pedestrian is the shiat!


Sooo...how many DUIs did you get before they yanked your driver's license? ;^)
 
2013-01-13 04:30:39 PM  

radarlove: Being a pedestrian is the shiat!


Just don't become a jogger.
 
2013-01-13 04:31:00 PM  
*scans thread, notes some names*

I love this...expects tighter gun laws to save people's lives as people will obey those laws, brags about breaking laws that they don't feel are important.

/shakes head and makes a note to hit Quantum APostrophe if he ever has the chance.
 
2013-01-13 04:34:43 PM  

Kit Fister: I love this...expects tighter gun laws to save people's lives as people will obey those laws, brags about breaking laws that they don't feel are important.


You ever speed in your car?
 
2013-01-13 04:35:41 PM  

theorellior: doyner: I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.

If a cyclist runs a red light and no motorist's right-of-way is infringed, does a driver still get butthurt?


It seems it is so.
 
2013-01-13 04:36:11 PM  

Kit Fister: *scans thread, notes some names*

I love this...expects tighter gun laws to save people's lives as people will obey those laws, brags about breaking laws that they don't feel are important.

/shakes head and makes a note to hit Quantum APostrophe if he ever has the chance.


I love that logic "people don't follow all laws when biking, gun control is useless!"
 
2013-01-13 04:37:48 PM  

stirfrybry: theorellior: doyner: I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.

If a cyclist runs a red light and no motorist's right-of-way is infringed, does a driver still get butthurt?

It seems it is so.


If he's in my grill it's because right-of-way was infringed.
 
2013-01-13 04:37:57 PM  
Friend of mine, and cross country teammate in high school ran over and killed a cyclist like 2 weeks after getting his drivers license.  That really farked him up for a couple of years.  He refused to drive.

/spandexed out, power bar eatin', 9lb bike riding bro/douche had run a VERY red light and my buddies F-150 obliterated his ass - like he was spread out over the course of like 200'.  It was gruesome - he was dismembered as he was dragged under the truck.  I saw the aftermath.  Easily one of the most horrifying things I have ever seen.
//douchebag bike rider had been ticketed 4 times for running a red light in the previous year
///his family had the audacity to sue said 16 year old driver and had their asses handed to them by the judge, especially when the defense presented previous tickets for running a red light 4 times previously
 
2013-01-13 04:39:44 PM  
As a cyclist I'd just like to say how 'bout you drive the way you wanna drive and do your level best not to hit anything or anybody and me & my Trek 1500 will ditto mmmkay?

/I typed slow for you non cyclists, pffftt.
 
2013-01-13 04:40:04 PM  
Last week a cyclist, travelling at night with no lights and wearing dark clothing, blew off a red light and ran into my cousin's atation wagon. He walked away uninjured, acted like a douche and the cop  gave him several tickets. He keeps calling my cousin demanding she replace his bike.

/WTF?
 
2013-01-13 04:40:35 PM  
CSB: While walking downtown a few years ago I was approaching an intersection. A driver coming alongside me got to the four-way intersection and just kept rolling. At the same time an oblivious headphoned jogger reached the crosswalk and didn't even break stride - jogging right into the path of the vehicle. In the next moment, the driver accelerated and the jogger ended up on the hood.
I stopped to make sure she was ok, and both the driver and the jogger started yelling to me, "you saw what happened! She ran out in front of me!", "you saw what happened!! She didn't even stop at the stop sign".
I just said, "You're both right." and kept walking.
 
2013-01-13 04:40:48 PM  

doyner: stirfrybry: theorellior: doyner: I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.

If a cyclist runs a red light and no motorist's right-of-way is infringed, does a driver still get butthurt?

It seems it is so.

If he's in my grill it's because right-of-way was infringed.


So be it.
 
2013-01-13 04:41:16 PM  

theorellior: special20: Why must we have to share the road with the uninsured, untaxed, and unlicensed vehicles?

Because we pay sales taxes too and don't damage the roadbed?


You do when I run you over in my Hummer.
 
2013-01-13 04:41:45 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: MrHelpful: That wasn't very helpful. People who obey the law can get killed as easily. I look where the hell I am going. Red wavelength photons emanating from a municipal structure are just a guideline for me. Far worse are the cyclists with headphones on, they are ignoring audio cues the entire time they are riding, I'm just running red lights once or twice.

That being said, I am in fairly good shape and have a decent bike. I also shift down when I brake so I can get back to speed easily. So I'm quite agile. When I go camping on my bike and have extra weight on my backpack and can't see as well, I slow down and obey traffic lights more, especially when I'm out of town.

Running red lights is a culture thing here in Montreal. Our drivers can barely master "right on green" so if I stopped at a red light that would be MORE dangerous as no one would expect it!


Best bike crash I ever saw was in Montreal, down by the Bell Center. We were walking around waiting for the Rush concert that evening. My kids were 9 and 13 at the time. The light at the end of the very steep street changed to red.
One of those ultralight bikes with the tires as thick as a pencil decided he was going to go through the red- as evidenced by his speed- and crossed from the leftmost portion of the lane to the right(so he could squeak by.)

The road was wet, his bike started to slip, he applied the brakes and lost control, nailing the small sedan that was at stopped at the light, and involuntarily somersaulted forward; leaving a dent in the trunk, a broken back windshield, and a very confused old guy staring at him when he landed on the hood. He'd vaulted over the roof, his front tire rim looked like pac-man, and the old man exited his car and began to quietly scold him.


The four of us looked at each other in wonder. Did that just happen twenty feet in front of us?
So hard not to laugh until we turned the corner.
 
2013-01-13 04:42:03 PM  
I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.
 
2013-01-13 04:42:07 PM  

Endive Wombat: Friend of mine, and cross country teammate in high school ran over and killed a cyclist like 2 weeks after getting his drivers license.  That really farked him up for a couple of years.  He refused to drive.

/spandexed out, power bar eatin', 9lb bike riding bro/douche had run a VERY red light and my buddies F-150 obliterated his ass - like he was spread out over the course of like 200'.  It was gruesome - he was dismembered as he was dragged under the truck.  I saw the aftermath.  Easily one of the most horrifying things I have ever seen.
//douchebag bike rider had been ticketed 4 times for running a red light in the previous year
///his family had the audacity to sue said 16 year old driver and had their asses handed to them by the judge, especially when the defense presented previous tickets for running a red light 4 times previously


At least he died doing what he loved...being a self-righteous, entitled douchebag.

I feel bad for your friend though.  Shiatty way to start your life as a motorist.
 
2013-01-13 04:42:59 PM  

RedVentrue: theorellior: special20: Why must we have to share the road with the uninsured, untaxed, and unlicensed vehicles?

Because we pay sales taxes too and don't damage the roadbed?

You do when I run you over in my Hummer.


Oooh, oooh, legitimate tough guy. I'll stay away from the roads you deign to share with the rest of us.
 
2013-01-13 04:43:47 PM  

wambu: Last week a cyclist, travelling at night with no lights and wearing dark clothing, blew off a red light and ran into my cousin's atation wagon. He walked away uninjured, acted like a douche and the cop  gave him several tickets. He keeps calling my cousin demanding she replace his bike.

/WTF?


Harassment's also illegal, right?  Glad to see those dickmagnets getting what's coming to them.
 
2013-01-13 04:43:54 PM  

theorellior: doyner: stirfrybry: theorellior: doyner: I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.

If a cyclist runs a red light and no motorist's right-of-way is infringed, does a driver still get butthurt?

It seems it is so.

If he's in my grill it's because right-of-way was infringed.

So be it.


We've agreed to disagree.  If I'm not on the road, I don't have a stake in what happens.  If I'm driving through a green light, I don't appreciate having my day/life disrupted because cyclists feel as though red lights don't apply to them.
 
2013-01-13 04:44:02 PM  
Also, I blame Strava for a lot of recent cycling related douchery. That site seems like it was created to encourage cyclists to drive as fast as possible and ignore all traffic laws.

Just think if there were a similar site for cars that tracks your GPS and encourages you to get from point A to point B faster than your fellow motorists and lets you compare your results to other people with similar cars and driving abilities.
 
2013-01-13 04:45:04 PM  

doyner: We've agreed to disagree. If I'm not on the road, I don't have a stake in what happens. If I'm driving through a green light, I don't appreciate having my day/life disrupted because cyclists feel as though red lights don't apply to them.


For whatever it's worth, I prefer to practice my cycling so that no one's day is disrupted at all.
 
2013-01-13 04:45:23 PM  

nickerj1: 206 comments and not one about lane filtering or lane splitting?

The most hated thing about cyclists is the following: Cyclists lane filtering and causing backups. A cyclist backing up traffic in a one-lane because the same-direction-traffic can't pass at speed and must slow and wait for a passing opportunity. And then everyone gets to a light, and the cyclist lane filters to the front. So the same 20 cars have to slowly pass the cyclist again. Then 2 miles down the road, another light. Repeat.


Such behaviour is inexcusable. When stopped at a red light, I remain behind any vehicles that were already in front of me at the stop.
 
2013-01-13 04:46:48 PM  

skinink: How bicyclists treat pedestrians:
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If I had the money I would pay off every state politician in Massachusetts to pass a law requiring all bicyclists to ride in the road only. I'm tired of the riders who act like they own the sidewalk.


As a city walker and cyclist, I'm in 100% agreement. I had one azzHOLE almost clip my son (three) while we were walking on our block. This was no kid, either, we're talking fully grown adult bum. I will maybe skate a half block or something if I need to, but the damned roads are there for traffic! Put down the cell phone, put on a helmet and act like a driver if you are going to drive that bike.
 
2013-01-13 04:50:54 PM  

TanSau: Don't Troll Me Bro!: Watubi: Tip for bicyclists, if you are really hardcore, you buy the heaviest/crappiest bike available and wear normal clothes if you want to get the best workout.

Don't forget about adding copious amounts of rolling friction.
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Don't forget your trainer.
 
2013-01-13 04:51:05 PM  

Stone Meadow: radarlove: Wow, this thread has made me super happy with my informed decision to be a pedestrian. I can stroll, occasionally even strut. I can listen to an mp3 player while smoking a cigarette or blunt with one hand and eating a cheeseburger with the other. Nobody gives a shiat or even notices me unless I do something stupid and dangerous like cross against the light.

I totally win.

radarlove: Also, there is no need for me to wear wicked gay lycra or reflectors, I don't have to pay tax or registration fees on my shoes, don't have to carry ID, and have absolutely zero fear that my own stupidity or inability to pay attention to a thousand things at once is going to get somebody hurt.

Being a pedestrian is the shiat!

Sooo...how many DUIs did you get before they yanked your driver's license? ;^)


Zero. I don't drink and drive (or really drink alcohol at all), I don't go over the speed limit, I signal every turn and lane change, and the only time I've ever been stopped by police was at a DUI checkpoint. I still have my drivers license and it is absolutely pristine. I just prefer to walk, mostly for the reasons stated above.

I was in an accident once though. I was 15 and riding my bike to my first day of work at McDonalds. Some bigass pickup truck decided that the bike lane would be better used as a right-turn lane and without looking to see if I was in it, he ran me over. Destroyed my bike and farked me up pretty badly and then just drove off. I was only a few blocks from work though so I picked up what was left of my bike and limped to McDonalds, where I was promptly fired by my manager who was pissed that I'd shown up to work covered in blood and asphalt.

/csb

theorellior: radarlove: Being a pedestrian is the shiat!

Just don't become a jogger.


I'm a smoker and a toker- no jogging = no problem.
 
2013-01-13 04:52:22 PM  

TV's Vinnie: D-Bag cyclist about to zip past my car.

Open car door innocently.

*P-THUMP!*

Bask in the glory.

Then, get cyclist's name in order to have car door repaired by his insurance. Sue him if he doesn't have one. Further bask in greater glory.


In my state (and in all others that I'm aware of), the car drivers are at fault in these situations, so this tactic of yours will fail.
 
2013-01-13 04:55:15 PM  

Endive Wombat: Friend of mine, and cross country teammate in high school ran over and killed a cyclist like 2 weeks after getting his drivers license.  That really farked him up for a couple of years.  He refused to drive.

/spandexed out, power bar eatin', 9lb bike riding bro/douche had run a VERY red light and my buddies F-150 obliterated his ass - like he was spread out over the course of like 200'.  It was gruesome - he was dismembered as he was dragged under the truck.  I saw the aftermath.  Easily one of the most horrifying things I have ever seen.
//douchebag bike rider had been ticketed 4 times for running a red light in the previous year
///his family had the audacity to sue said 16 year old driver and had their asses handed to them by the judge, especially when the defense presented previous tickets for running a red light 4 times previously


That's a real shame. It's a horrible experience for a young driver...or anyone for that matter. I almost hit a motorcyclist shortly after getting my license. It was a real world learning experience that I carry with me to this day. As a motorist you have to watch for more than just other cars...motorcycles, bikes, and pedestrians can be hard to see if you aren't ACTIVELY looking for them. As a current motorcyclist and former bicyclist I know that many other motorists have never learned that lesson.
 
2013-01-13 04:55:45 PM  

Smarshmallow: TV's Vinnie: D-Bag cyclist about to zip past my car.

Open car door innocently.

*P-THUMP!*

Bask in the glory.

Then, get cyclist's name in order to have car door repaired by his insurance. Sue him if he doesn't have one. Further bask in greater glory.

In my state (and in all others that I'm aware of), the car drivers are at fault in these situations, so this tactic of yours will fail.


Yeah.  You don't open your door when a car is coming, so why be a dick when a bike is hugging the right side of the outer lane?

Don't be a dick...whether in a car or on 2 wheels.  Why is this so hard?
 
2013-01-13 04:56:20 PM  

megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.


Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?
 
2013-01-13 04:57:10 PM  

Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?


Yes.  Explain yourself.
 
2013-01-13 04:57:15 PM  

doyner: Endive Wombat: Friend of mine, and cross country teammate in high school ran over and killed a cyclist like 2 weeks after getting his drivers license.  That really farked him up for a couple of years.  He refused to drive.

/spandexed out, power bar eatin', 9lb bike riding bro/douche had run a VERY red light and my buddies F-150 obliterated his ass - like he was spread out over the course of like 200'.  It was gruesome - he was dismembered as he was dragged under the truck.  I saw the aftermath.  Easily one of the most horrifying things I have ever seen.
//douchebag bike rider had been ticketed 4 times for running a red light in the previous year
///his family had the audacity to sue said 16 year old driver and had their asses handed to them by the judge, especially when the defense presented previous tickets for running a red light 4 times previously

At least he died doing what he loved...being a self-righteous, entitled douchebag.

I feel bad for your friend though.  Shiatty way to start your life as a motorist.


Yeah, it was shiatty all around.  But I learned a VERY important lesson that day.  No matter how entitled or even technically "right" you are as a cyclist, you still have to contend with objects that weigh many thousands of pounds and move faster than you will ever do so.  Therefore, while they should technically treat you as an equal (they don't), or at least something that is fragile (they don't)...you have a responsibility to yourself to be a good steward of the road and be on the defense on busy roads.  Your safety is your responsibility, and while righteous indignation may have a place in society at large, on the road, it does not matter, you as a cyclist lose against a car...be on the defense of your own safety and don't be a dick.
 
2013-01-13 04:58:35 PM  
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2013-01-13 04:59:34 PM  

theorellior: Kit Fister: I love this...expects tighter gun laws to save people's lives as people will obey those laws, brags about breaking laws that they don't feel are important.

You ever speed in your car?


I think the point of my statement was not that lawbreaking wouldn't happen or that I didn't do it. What I'm saying is that it's rather ironic to brag about breaking the law and turn around and demand more laws.
 
2013-01-13 05:02:16 PM  

radarlove: Stone Meadow: Sooo...how many DUIs did you get before they yanked your driver's license? ;^)

Zero. I don't drink and drive (or really drink alcohol at all), I don't go over the speed limit, I signal every turn and lane change, and the only time I've ever been stopped by police was at a DUI checkpoint. I still have my drivers license and it is absolutely pristine. I just prefer to walk, mostly for the reasons stated above.


Imma go with "he totally missed the winkie face" interpretation. ;^)
 
2013-01-13 05:03:40 PM  

doyner: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

Yes.  Explain yourself.


Right then. Jersies are grnarally technical fabrics that wick sweat away from your skin. They are cutclong so as not to ride up your back when riding, and have big pockets because its a convenient way to carry stuff. Shorts are tight so that loose fabric doesnt chafe your thighs to hell and gone.

Any further questions?
 
2013-01-13 05:04:38 PM  
Cyclist in the Bay Area.
Just Strava'd my morning ride about an hour ago.

This is how we view other humans, and the world in general (especially the Aussie guy in the vid).
Link  (Not safe for anyone)

Headphones at work recommended.
 
2013-01-13 05:07:10 PM  
www.phawker.com
 
2013-01-13 05:07:20 PM  

Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?


The fanny pack would be a good start.

/I keed
//I still want to know about the outfits. I'm a girl and I don't think I own anything that tight.
///if you got it, flaunt it?
 
2013-01-13 05:07:29 PM  

fireclown: doyner: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

Yes.  Explain yourself.

Right then. Jersies are grnarally technical fabrics that wick sweat away from your skin. They are cutclong so as not to ride up your back when riding, and have big pockets because its a convenient way to carry stuff. Shorts are tight so that loose fabric doesnt chafe your thighs to hell and gone.

Any further questions?


I bolded fanny pack.  You aren't seriously defending those.
 
2013-01-13 05:08:06 PM  
Wow. I saw the PBS strip yesterday and thought, "This is to Fark as live chickens is to a pen full of Jack Russell terriers on crack"

Viola! Today's Bike Hate Thread (BHT)!

Having survived 18,000 miles of Philly bike commuting over the years, riding on the sidewalk, riding against traffic, running lights, stopsigns, getting shot with paintballs, having bottles thrown at me, etc., I have but one PRIMARY piece of advice for you:

ASSUME CARS WANT TO KILL YOU AND RIDE ACCORDINGLY

Ride against traffic so you can see and avoid them. Ride on the sidewalk to minimize your exposure to them. DON'T blindly blow through lights and stopsigns, for they may be lying in wait to get you. Scan completely before going through.

Don't ride like a dick on the sidewalk. Dive into the street when a group of people come down the sidewalk. Dive into the sidewalk when another biker comes down the bikelane going the "right" way. If they like getting it in the ass, they eventually will get their wish while riding with the traffic. Knew people killed like that.

I'm done with Philly bike commuting, since I'm retiring in the spring. In retirement, I will enjoy my new Cannondale Jekyll 4, given to me free by Cannondale (retails $3200) since I basically fatigued out my Cannondale Police Cruiser after 13,000 miles and the frame snapped. Gotta luv them lifetime warranties!

Don't wear goofy biker outfits. It attracts abuse. Dress like a south Philly dude who dun lost his license after a few too many DUI's. Someone you don't want to mess with.

Light up your bike. Front flashing light, back flashing light, even side flashing lights that plug into the ends of the handlebars. Plus reflectors, lots and lots of reflectors.....

Cute little bing-bing bell for gently warning peds you're behind them, plus frickin' LOUD airhorn for scaring cars...

You have no rights, no power, no influence. You are an opportunistic parasite in a high speed, high powered rush-rush society. You exploit the niches, the cracks, the little openings in the maelstrom. You bob and weave, shuckin' and jiving, almost cat like, as you thread your way through the mayhem.Never confront. Go around, flee, use the terrain and the parked cars, and poles, and curbs as your shields, your refuge.

It will make you stronger and more independent than the rage cagers can possibly imagine...
 
2013-01-13 05:09:00 PM  
Another Fark cycling thread.

let me sum up the whole thread-

cyclists- you can't be delayed 5 seconds?
Drivers- obey the laws of the road.
cyclists- Get over yourself drivers
Drivers- Spandex

How to solve every problem--
Don't be a d-bag in a car or on a bike.
 
2013-01-13 05:09:41 PM  
As long as bicyclists never affect the flow motorized traffic I have no problem with them.
 
2013-01-13 05:10:36 PM  

mark12A: Wow. I saw the PBS strip yesterday and thought, "This is to Fark as live chickens is to a pen full of Jack Russell terriers on crack"

Viola! Today's Bike Hate Thread (BHT)!

Having survived 18,000 miles of Philly bike commuting over the years, riding on the sidewalk, riding against traffic, running lights, stopsigns, getting shot with paintballs, having bottles thrown at me, etc., I have but one PRIMARY piece of advice for you:

ASSUME CARS WANT TO KILL YOU AND RIDE ACCORDINGLY

Ride against traffic so you can see and avoid them. Ride on the sidewalk to minimize your exposure to them. DON'T blindly blow through lights and stopsigns, for they may be lying in wait to get you. Scan completely before going through.

Don't ride like a dick on the sidewalk. Dive into the street when a group of people come down the sidewalk. Dive into the sidewalk when another biker comes down the bikelane going the "right" way. If they like getting it in the ass, they eventually will get their wish while riding with the traffic. Knew people killed like that.

I'm done with Philly bike commuting, since I'm retiring in the spring. In retirement, I will enjoy my new Cannondale Jekyll 4, given to me free by Cannondale (retails $3200) since I basically fatigued out my Cannondale Police Cruiser after 13,000 miles and the frame snapped. Gotta luv them lifetime warranties!

Don't wear goofy biker outfits. It attracts abuse. Dress like a south Philly dude who dun lost his license after a few too many DUI's. Someone you don't want to mess with.

Light up your bike. Front flashing light, back flashing light, even side flashing lights that plug into the ends of the handlebars. Plus reflectors, lots and lots of reflectors.....

Cute little bing-bing bell for gently warning peds you're behind them, plus frickin' LOUD airhorn for scaring cars...

You have no rights, no power, no influence. You are an opportunistic parasite in a high speed, high powered rush-rush society. You exploit the niches, the cr ...


Nothing so self-affirming as a siege mentality.
 
2013-01-13 05:11:34 PM  

special20: Why must we have to share the road with the uninsured, untaxed, and unlicensed vehicles?


Most of the taxes that pay for roads don't come from auto registration, and are paid equally by cyclists, driers, pedestrians and shut-ins, all things being equal.
 
2013-01-13 05:11:59 PM  
How I roll (at least to work and back in central London):

www.foldingcyclist.com

Many drivers are cool, many are assholes. Same for cyclists, joggers and pedestrians. Same for everyone in life, really.
 
2013-01-13 05:12:32 PM  

megarian: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

The fanny pack would be a good start.

/I keed
//I still want to know about the outfits. I'm a girl and I don't think I own anything that tight.
///if you got it, flaunt it?


Really, what's not to get.  Doesn't flap around in the wind, is breathable in the summer, windproof in the winter, has bright colors to make you more visible.  Not hard.
 
2013-01-13 05:14:32 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: I have this thing called a brain. It allows me to understand my surroundings and plan my movements. At worst, someone will have a contusion.
/Proud red light runner since like forever


The handful people I know of that were killed by bicyclists running red lights just in downtown San Francisco in the last year or so would probably like to be able to disagree.

/no great loss though, they were only pedestrians, not real bicycle riding humans or anything.
 
2013-01-13 05:14:41 PM  

Nem Wan: As long as bicyclists never affect the flow motorized traffic I have no problem with them.


What if they affect it by being one fewer car on the road in front of you? Do you have a problem with that?
 
2013-01-13 05:15:16 PM  
I'm not against bicyclists, just ban their seats.
 
2013-01-13 05:17:07 PM  
I ride quite a bit and have seen lotsa 'holish riders and drivers too. I always stop at lights and stop signs.There have been people honking at me to move over, on a single lane country road, with no shoulder, had things thrown at me too.Had someone here get right on my rear tire and hoonk their horn at me in a 25 zone, and I was going almost 30, according to my GPS. Out here, I only ride on Really wide shoulders, the downside being sometimes I get a lot of flats. Since I've spent over 3k on my CFR(catbon fiber race) bike, Ridden it on a couple 150 mile trips, as well as 2 Santa Fe centuries (100 miles). I always pack plenty of patches/tubes, as well as a personal attitude adjust tool.
www.hunt101.com  Now I'm not forcing my point of view, but a few 'holes out there don' indict all of us, as we should not judge the fat driver 'holes versus the responsible drivers. My bike is insured(Personal Article Floater), and don't try to screw with me, and you won't risk being vented. I mind my own business and obey the laws, I'd suggest you do the same. Suck it, haters. What are you in a hurry for, your insulin scrip at Walgreens, Dialysis, or your hoverround just got fixed, or your prescription pants just came in?
 
2013-01-13 05:20:03 PM  

serial_crusher: megarian: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

The fanny pack would be a good start.

/I keed
//I still want to know about the outfits. I'm a girl and I don't think I own anything that tight.
///if you got it, flaunt it?

Really, what's not to get.  Doesn't flap around in the wind, is breathable in the summer, windproof in the winter, has bright colors to make you more visible.  Not hard.


Relax.

I understand that aspect of them. And many if them are not for visibility. A friend has a umm... outfit that's black and dark purple and silver. Not exactly more visible. I think sometimes people just want an excuse to wear Spandex. It's all good. Sometimes I look for an excuse to wear cocktail dresses.

/just rustleling some jimmies.
//was simply trolling for some awesome Spandex cyclist pics
 
2013-01-13 05:21:53 PM  
Nope... not reading this thread.
 
2013-01-13 05:22:32 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Nope... not reading this thread.


/last post
 
2013-01-13 05:22:32 PM  

doyner: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

Yes.  Explain yourself.


It serves as a comfortable gun holster and, unlike with other holsters, using it does not result in the slide of my sidearm wearing holes into my shirts.
 
2013-01-13 05:23:35 PM  
I had a cyclist bang on my car and yell at me for almost killing him. I didn't almost kill him but I did begin to enter an intersection and stop 6 feet later when he suddenly turned without signalling. I guess it was my fault for not reading his mind. I have a couple of other memorable run-ins with douchebags on bikes. I have no stories about the vast majority of cyclists that I've shared the road with.

Similarly, I have stories about drivers who came close to killing me while I was driving or walking, but most of them have never remained on my mind after leaving my vision or immediate area. I think we, as a people, have a douchebag problem, not a cyclist problem. When someone is a total dick behind the wheel it's harder to hear them yelling and it's more difficult for them to maneuver their vehicle in a way to berate you like an idiot on a bike can. I bet it also doesn't hurt that their mantra is "drivers want to kill you" and they repeat it to themselves over and over. That probably shortens the fuse a bit.
 
2013-01-13 05:24:04 PM  

JasonOfOrillia: The My Little Pony Killer: Hey fark you too buddy.

/pedestrian
//doesn't jaywalk

///seriously, equating people who jaywalk with people who are sexual predators of children? I'd invite you to stay classy but I'd have to believe you had any in the first place

The fact that you don't jaywalk is cool. That is the responsible thing to do. And "Pedo" is merely short for pedestrian. As for those sexual predators of children, I'm not sure someone who seems to advertise themselves and a fan of a children's show should be raising that issue at all.


Not sure what planet you live on, but on Earth the term "pedo" has only ever meant one thing.
 
2013-01-13 05:24:16 PM  

Dimensio: doyner: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

Yes.  Explain yourself.

It serves as a comfortable gun holster and, unlike with other holsters, using it does not result in the slide of my sidearm wearing holes into my shirts.


That...that's actually a pretty great reason.
 
2013-01-13 05:24:28 PM  

Dimensio: doyner: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

Yes.  Explain yourself.

It serves as a comfortable gun holster and, unlike with other holsters, using it does not result in the slide of my sidearm wearing holes into my shirts.


It also filters out sarcasm from your perception, ITG.
 
2013-01-13 05:26:52 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: / #2 was afterwards, the shreeking and biatching and moaning from the lawbreaking cyclists picking up their twisted wrecked bikes, who were FURIOUS at the truck driver who dared to enter the intersection on a green light.

How long did it take you to stop laughing at them? It would've taken me a few minutes.


I have actually seen that happen twice at a stop sign near here (I live near a campus) - and both times got violent. One time the guys running the stop sign into cross traffic attacked the driver, the other time the two hippies who ran the light just shouted at the driver, while other passing douchebikers and even a car full of frat boy types stopped and helped attack the driver (all while shouting at him that it was all his fault because bicycles ALWAYS have the legal right of way).

Then again, I have some Masshole acquaintances that invited me to a ride with them, and the brought eggs to throw at cars and wanted to show us how to 'U-lock' parked SUV's (dent them as they drive by with a bike lock).
These people all deserve being run over.
 
2013-01-13 05:27:22 PM  

theorellior: I know it's terribly difficult to accelerate an automobile, you have to depress your right foot by about a centimeter, you might get a blister or something.


And you have to peddle hard for a couple of feet. THE HORROR!!! That totally makes it ok to ignore laws.

I feel your pain though. I have a manual transmission, so I would have to downshift and then shift back into my current gear as well as stopping. I just blow through the light since it is such an inconvenience. If you don't want to get hit then you will stay the fark out of my way.
 
2013-01-13 05:27:23 PM  

Stone Meadow: Imma go with "he totally missed the winkie face" interpretation. ;^)


Saw it, but misinterpreted it as the "it's okay, I drink and drive all the time, too!" winky face.

serial_crusher: Really, what's not to get. Doesn't flap around in the wind, is breathable in the summer, windproof in the winter, has bright colors to make you more visible. Not hard.


And it is perfect for carrying around bareback porn, lube, poppers, cockrings, mineral water, and other assorted gay paraphernalia when riding your wee bike to your boyfriends house for some hot sweaty homosex!

/it's why they call it a fanny pack
 
2013-01-13 05:27:24 PM  
One thing is clear to me now. When we start colonizing the galaxy this spring, it's like one starship for cyclists and one for drivers. OOoh and I'll bet the cyclist starship totally engages its warp drive before the light goes green.
 
2013-01-13 05:29:32 PM  
Damnit, I was trying to quote the original fanny pack comment there, obviously.
 
2013-01-13 05:32:04 PM  

Dimensio: doyner: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

Yes.  Explain yourself.

It serves as a comfortable gun holster and, unlike with other holsters, using it does not result in the slide of my sidearm wearing holes into my shirts.


Holy shiat, you just managed to make fanny packs even more gay.

Nice one, sailor.
 
2013-01-13 05:32:40 PM  

radarlove: Damnit, I was trying to quote the original fanny pack comment there, obviously.


Related: is there such a thing as gay cyclist porn? I am so very afraid to Google that...
 
2013-01-13 05:34:10 PM  

radarlove: Dimensio: doyner: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

Yes.  Explain yourself.

It serves as a comfortable gun holster and, unlike with other holsters, using it does not result in the slide of my sidearm wearing holes into my shirts.

Holy shiat, you just managed to make fanny packs even more gay.

Nice one, sailor.


Strange. My previous boyfriend is arguably more "gay" than I am, and he does not wear a fanny pack.
 
2013-01-13 05:35:50 PM  

JesusJuice: When I was in college we used to throw water bottles at cyclists who rode way to the left and wouldn't move over.


You are a redneck asshole, sir.
 
2013-01-13 05:36:08 PM  

megarian: radarlove: Damnit, I was trying to quote the original fanny pack comment there, obviously.

Related: is there such a thing as gay cyclist porn? I am so very afraid to Google that...


Buttfarking random spandex/lycra clad strangers off-trail in parks certainly seems to be a niche fetish, so I'm guessing there has to be.
 
2013-01-13 05:36:59 PM  

serial_crusher: megarian: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

The fanny pack would be a good start.

/I keed
//I still want to know about the outfits. I'm a girl and I don't think I own anything that tight.
///if you got it, flaunt it?

Really, what's not to get.  Doesn't flap around in the wind, is breathable in the summer, windproof in the winter, has bright colors to make you more visible.  Not hard.


Not always.
 
2013-01-13 05:37:54 PM  
members.modernvespa.net
 
2013-01-13 05:38:32 PM  

Smarshmallow: Nem Wan: As long as bicyclists never affect the flow motorized traffic I have no problem with them.

What if they affect it by being one fewer car on the road in front of you? Do you have a problem with that?


Dunno, are they being obstructionist dicks or barely-noticeable pieces of background fluff? If the latter, I really don't give a shiat.

radarlove: Dimensio: doyner: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

Yes.  Explain yourself.

It serves as a comfortable gun holster and, unlike with other holsters, using it does not result in the slide of my sidearm wearing holes into my shirts.

Holy shiat, you just managed to make fanny packs even more gay.

Nice one, sailor.


How so? The fact that he chooses to carry his firearm in a fanny pack rather than a holster? Lot of guys do that. I don't, it'd stand out on me. But if you want to rock it, your choice.
 
2013-01-13 05:38:38 PM  

Dimensio: radarlove: Dimensio: doyner: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

Yes.  Explain yourself.

It serves as a comfortable gun holster and, unlike with other holsters, using it does not result in the slide of my sidearm wearing holes into my shirts.

Holy shiat, you just managed to make fanny packs even more gay.

Nice one, sailor.

Strange. My previous boyfriend is arguably more "gay" than I am, and he does not wear a fanny pack.


It's the gun that really pushes it over the top to all-out Liberace-ville. You should make your new boyfriend wear a fanny pack while farking. It'll change your life.
 
2013-01-13 05:39:43 PM  
I bet there are those here in this thread that would even heckle people in Spin Classes.
 
2013-01-13 05:41:07 PM  

Nothing To See Here: I bet there are those here in this thread that would even heckle people in Spin Classes.


If they're not blowing through red lights in front of me I'll never see them.
 
2013-01-13 05:41:08 PM  

radarlove: Dimensio: radarlove: Dimensio: doyner: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

Yes.  Explain yourself.

It serves as a comfortable gun holster and, unlike with other holsters, using it does not result in the slide of my sidearm wearing holes into my shirts.

Holy shiat, you just managed to make fanny packs even more gay.

Nice one, sailor.

Strange. My previous boyfriend is arguably more "gay" than I am, and he does not wear a fanny pack.

It's the gun that really pushes it over the top to all-out Liberace-ville. You should make your new boyfriend wear a fanny pack while farking. It'll change your life.


Yes, because a firearm kept as a tool for self defense equates one to being homosexual. Got it.
 
2013-01-13 05:41:15 PM  

megarian: is there such a thing as gay cyclist porn?


I went ahead and searched for "cyclist porn" without the word "gay".
But yeah, there was a decent amount of gay results.  Like, proportionally more than when you search for other kinds of porn.
 
2013-01-13 05:41:44 PM  

Kit Fister: How so? The fact that he chooses to carry his firearm in a fanny pack rather than a holster?


Actually, I meant the act of carrying a firearm in general.
 
2013-01-13 05:42:07 PM  

Kit Fister: radarlove: Dimensio: radarlove: Dimensio: doyner: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

Yes.  Explain yourself.

It serves as a comfortable gun holster and, unlike with other holsters, using it does not result in the slide of my sidearm wearing holes into my shirts.

Holy shiat, you just managed to make fanny packs even more gay.

Nice one, sailor.

Strange. My previous boyfriend is arguably more "gay" than I am, and he does not wear a fanny pack.

It's the gun that really pushes it over the top to all-out Liberace-ville. You should make your new boyfriend wear a fanny pack while farking. It'll change your life.

Yes, because a firearm kept as a tool for self defense equates one to being homosexual. Got it.


To provide fair consideration to the claim, radarlove may be extremely stupid.
 
2013-01-13 05:42:26 PM  

RatMaster999: Fuggin Bizzy: I always pack heat when I cycle, so that if a driver swerves and crushes my legs, I can shoot him in the dick afterwards.

I always keep a gun in the car so if I hit a cyclist and only crush its legs, I can put the thing out of its misery.


That is a damn good idea. I had to drag one off the road and drown it in a ditch once because I didn't have my gun. It wasn't a pleasant experience. I never travel without it anymore.
 
2013-01-13 05:42:45 PM  

doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: Nope... not reading this thread.

/last post


oh FFS,

\feels like a trap.
 
2013-01-13 05:42:52 PM  

doyner: Nothing To See Here: I bet there are those here in this thread that would even heckle people in Spin Classes.

If they're not blowing through red lights in front of me I'll never see them.


Exactly. Cyclists that don't obstruct traffic are fine. They're in the barely-noticeable category. Blow red lights and ride in such a manner as you obstruct or endanger yourself or others in traffic? You're on my radar and are liable to get something thrown at you, a horn blasted at you, or hit because a 6,000 pound pickup is a lot harder to stop than a 13-pound bicycle.
 
2013-01-13 05:43:38 PM  

radarlove: Kit Fister: How so? The fact that he chooses to carry his firearm in a fanny pack rather than a holster?

Actually, I meant the act of carrying a firearm in general.


I'll remember you said that should you ever be attacked.
 
2013-01-13 05:43:40 PM  

Kit Fister: Yes, because a firearm kept as a tool for self defense equates one to being homosexual. Got it.


It's the fanny pack itself.  Think of it...  Fanny. Pack.  And he already outed himself and his boyfriend.

Fanny.  Pack.
 
2013-01-13 05:44:12 PM  

doyner: mark12A: Wow. I saw the PBS strip yesterday and thought, "This is to Fark as live chickens is to a pen full of Jack Russell terriers on crack"

Viola! Today's Bike Hate Thread (BHT)!

Having survived 18,000 miles of Philly bike commuting over the years, riding on the sidewalk, riding against traffic, running lights, stopsigns, getting shot with paintballs, having bottles thrown at me, etc., I have but one PRIMARY piece of advice for you:

ASSUME CARS WANT TO KILL YOU AND RIDE ACCORDINGLY

Ride against traffic so you can see and avoid them. Ride on the sidewalk to minimize your exposure to them. DON'T blindly blow through lights and stopsigns, for they may be lying in wait to get you. Scan completely before going through.

Don't ride like a dick on the sidewalk. Dive into the street when a group of people come down the sidewalk. Dive into the sidewalk when another biker comes down the bikelane going the "right" way. If they like getting it in the ass, they eventually will get their wish while riding with the traffic. Knew people killed like that.

I'm done with Philly bike commuting, since I'm retiring in the spring. In retirement, I will enjoy my new Cannondale Jekyll 4, given to me free by Cannondale (retails $3200) since I basically fatigued out my Cannondale Police Cruiser after 13,000 miles and the frame snapped. Gotta luv them lifetime warranties!

Don't wear goofy biker outfits. It attracts abuse. Dress like a south Philly dude who dun lost his license after a few too many DUI's. Someone you don't want to mess with.

Light up your bike. Front flashing light, back flashing light, even side flashing lights that plug into the ends of the handlebars. Plus reflectors, lots and lots of reflectors.....

Cute little bing-bing bell for gently warning peds you're behind them, plus frickin' LOUD airhorn for scaring cars...

You have no rights, no power, no influence. You are an opportunistic parasite in a high speed, high powered rush-rush society. You exploit the niches ...


^THIS! Ride against traffic and on the sidewalk? Park your bike and walk...if you can walk without being a DICK!
 
2013-01-13 05:44:30 PM  

megarian: Dimensio: doyner: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

Yes.  Explain yourself.

It serves as a comfortable gun holster and, unlike with other holsters, using it does not result in the slide of my sidearm wearing holes into my shirts.

That...that's actually a pretty great reason.


I knew there was a reason I had you favorited/had a crush on you. :D
 
2013-01-13 05:45:08 PM  

doyner: Kit Fister: Yes, because a firearm kept as a tool for self defense equates one to being homosexual. Got it.

It's the fanny pack itself.  Think of it...  Fanny. Pack.  And he already outed himself and his boyfriend.

Fanny.  Pack.


Yeah, it's not like it's called the "Ass Blaster 4000" or something.
 
2013-01-13 05:45:57 PM  

Kit Fister: doyner: Kit Fister: Yes, because a firearm kept as a tool for self defense equates one to being homosexual. Got it.

It's the fanny pack itself.  Think of it...  Fanny. Pack.  And he already outed himself and his boyfriend.

Fanny.  Pack.

Yeah, it's not like it's called the "Ass Blaster 4000" or something.


Or "Kit Fister"
 
2013-01-13 05:46:53 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: Nope... not reading this thread.

/last post

oh FFS,

\feels like a trap.


It is.  It sucks you in.
 
2013-01-13 05:47:08 PM  

al's hat: doyner: mark12A: Wow. I saw the PBS strip yesterday and thought, "This is to Fark as live chickens is to a pen full of Jack Russell terriers on crack"

Viola! Today's Bike Hate Thread (BHT)!

Having survived 18,000 miles of Philly bike commuting over the years, riding on the sidewalk, riding against traffic, running lights, stopsigns, getting shot with paintballs, having bottles thrown at me, etc., I have but one PRIMARY piece of advice for you:

ASSUME CARS WANT TO KILL YOU AND RIDE ACCORDINGLY

Ride against traffic so you can see and avoid them. Ride on the sidewalk to minimize your exposure to them. DON'T blindly blow through lights and stopsigns, for they may be lying in wait to get you. Scan completely before going through.

Don't ride like a dick on the sidewalk. Dive into the street when a group of people come down the sidewalk. Dive into the sidewalk when another biker comes down the bikelane going the "right" way. If they like getting it in the ass, they eventually will get their wish while riding with the traffic. Knew people killed like that.

I'm done with Philly bike commuting, since I'm retiring in the spring. In retirement, I will enjoy my new Cannondale Jekyll 4, given to me free by Cannondale (retails $3200) since I basically fatigued out my Cannondale Police Cruiser after 13,000 miles and the frame snapped. Gotta luv them lifetime warranties!

Don't wear goofy biker outfits. It attracts abuse. Dress like a south Philly dude who dun lost his license after a few too many DUI's. Someone you don't want to mess with.

Light up your bike. Front flashing light, back flashing light, even side flashing lights that plug into the ends of the handlebars. Plus reflectors, lots and lots of reflectors.....

Cute little bing-bing bell for gently warning peds you're behind them, plus frickin' LOUD airhorn for scaring cars...

You have no rights, no power, no influence. You are an opportunistic parasite in a high speed, high powered rush-rush society. You exploit th ...


doyner's comment was inexplicably lost in the post..."Nothing so self-affirming as a siege mentality." That is what I approving.
 
2013-01-13 05:49:11 PM  

Kit Fister: Yes, because a firearm kept as a tool for self defense equates one to being homosexual. Got it.


No, not homosexual. Most homosexuals, myself included, have huge cocks and thus no need to carry a weapon to compensate.

But being a lilting, cowering, sniveling gun owner who is so afraid of death and his fellow man that he feels the need to carry around a gun? That makes you GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY.

And their weakness makes my penis hard and shiny.
 
2013-01-13 05:49:24 PM  
One word: Portland
 
2013-01-13 05:50:39 PM  

radarlove: Kit Fister: Yes, because a firearm kept as a tool for self defense equates one to being homosexual. Got it.

No, not homosexual. Most homosexuals, myself included, have huge cocks and thus no need to carry a weapon to compensate.

But being a lilting, cowering, sniveling gun owner who is so afraid of death and his fellow man that he feels the need to carry around a gun? That makes you GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY.

And their weakness makes my penis hard and shiny.


Ah, projection issues and lack of comprehension. Thank you. I now know how to classify you. Have a better one!
 
2013-01-13 05:51:19 PM  

doyner: Kit Fister: doyner: Kit Fister: Yes, because a firearm kept as a tool for self defense equates one to being homosexual. Got it.

It's the fanny pack itself.  Think of it...  Fanny. Pack.  And he already outed himself and his boyfriend.

Fanny.  Pack.

Yeah, it's not like it's called the "Ass Blaster 4000" or something.

Or "Kit Fister"


Fair point, but at least mine was an intentional comment... >.>
 
2013-01-13 05:52:23 PM  

radarlove: Kit Fister: Yes, because a firearm kept as a tool for self defense equates one to being homosexual. Got it.

No, not homosexual. Most homosexuals, myself included, have huge cocks and thus no need to carry a weapon to compensate.

But being a lilting, cowering, sniveling gun owner who is so afraid of death and his fellow man that he feels the need to carry around a gun? That makes you GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY.

And their weakness makes my penis hard and shiny.


I believe that you have confused your own entirely irrational and baseless misconceptions regarding civilians who legally carry firearms with actual reality. While you may derive perverse sexual arousal from your inaccurate beliefs, the two concepts are not actually the same.
 
2013-01-13 05:52:47 PM  

doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: Nope... not reading this thread.

/last post

oh FFS,

\feels like a trap.

It is.  It sucks you in.


Does not!
 
2013-01-13 05:54:03 PM  

Kit Fister: radarlove: Kit Fister: How so? The fact that he chooses to carry his firearm in a fanny pack rather than a holster?

Actually, I meant the act of carrying a firearm in general.

I'll remember you said that should you ever be attacked.


I've had the shiat kicked out of me many, many times be people with tiny cocks and big guns, and I have yet to feel such cowardice that I'm compelled to try to take their lives.
 
2013-01-13 05:54:20 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: Nope... not reading this thread.

/last post

oh FFS,

\feels like a trap.

It is.  It sucks you in.

Does not!


Let's
Agree
That
Sometimes

People
Overlook
Simple
Truths
 
2013-01-13 05:57:42 PM  

radarlove: Kit Fister: radarlove: Kit Fister: How so? The fact that he chooses to carry his firearm in a fanny pack rather than a holster?

Actually, I meant the act of carrying a firearm in general.

I'll remember you said that should you ever be attacked.

I've had the shiat kicked out of me many, many times be people with tiny cocks and big guns, and I have yet to feel such cowardice that I'm compelled to try to take their lives.


How were you able to ascertain the genital size of your attackers? Was the physical assault a result of an unusual sexual play?
 
2013-01-13 06:01:44 PM  

ranold: [knstrct.com image 640x339]
Here in Canada, we go everywhere..brah.


Where can this be found...
 
2013-01-13 06:02:43 PM  

Kit Fister: megarian: Dimensio: doyner: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

Yes.  Explain yourself.

It serves as a comfortable gun holster and, unlike with other holsters, using it does not result in the slide of my sidearm wearing holes into my shirts.

That...that's actually a pretty great reason.

I knew there was a reason I had you favorited/had a crush on you. :D


I enjoy you.
 
2013-01-13 06:05:22 PM  

serial_crusher: megarian: is there such a thing as gay cyclist porn?

I went ahead and searched for "cyclist porn" without the word "gay".
But yeah, there was a decent amount of gay results.  Like, proportionally more than when you search for other kinds of porn.


Thank you for doing the dirty work.
 
2013-01-13 06:06:29 PM  

megarian: Kit Fister: megarian: Dimensio: doyner: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

Yes.  Explain yourself.

It serves as a comfortable gun holster and, unlike with other holsters, using it does not result in the slide of my sidearm wearing holes into my shirts.

That...that's actually a pretty great reason.

I knew there was a reason I had you favorited/had a crush on you. :D

I enjoy you.


Hey, drop me a line sometime! I'd love to chat. :D

/eip
 
2013-01-13 06:09:19 PM  

Kit Fister: Ah, projection issues and lack of comprehension. Thank you. I now know how to classify you. Have a better one!


Pshhhhh...I WISH I could project my dick size onto others. That would make life much more fun. But you're right- I absolutely fail to comprehend the cowardice of gun owners.

Dimensio: How were you able to ascertain the genital size of your attackers? Was the physical assault a result of an unusual sexual play?


Only once was a beating the result of an encounter gone bad. The other times I made an assumption, but it is a pretty safe assumption to make. Homophobes are notoriously tiny, and homophobia and firearm-zeal tend to go hand in hand.
 
2013-01-13 06:09:41 PM  

doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: Nope... not reading this thread.

/last post

oh FFS,

\feels like a trap.

It is.  It sucks you in.

Does not!

Let's
Agree
That
Sometimes

People
Overlook
Simple
Truths


assets.shitbrix.com

\Does not
 
2013-01-13 06:10:30 PM  

mizdrea: Fuggin Bizzy: I always pack heat when I cycle, so that if a driver swerves and crushes my legs, I can shoot him in the dick afterwards.

This.


You two are exactly the reason there is such hostility toward bikes. I have seen several physical attacks on drivers who were doing nothing but being in the wrong place when a bike decided to run red lights, and seen the damage and mindless vandalism massholes inflict on vehicles for no reason at all.

Bicyclists have quite rightly earned the reputation of being violent (and as you evidence, often armed) thugs, hence why I now carry a weapon in my vehicle.

/If you wonder why drivers treat you with hostility, congratulations, you have worked hard to earn it.
 
2013-01-13 06:11:20 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: Nope... not reading this thread.

/last post

oh FFS,

\feels like a trap.

It is.  It sucks you in.

Does not!

Let's
Agree
That
Sometimes

People
Overlook
Simple
Truths

[assets.shiatbrix.com image 674x535]

\Does not


John used to run stoplights in his 4lb carbon-fiber special edition Lance Armstrong Tour de France GraphitechTM racer.
 
2013-01-13 06:12:07 PM  

megarian: serial_crusher: megarian: is there such a thing as gay cyclist porn?

I went ahead and searched for "cyclist porn" without the word "gay".
But yeah, there was a decent amount of gay results.  Like, proportionally more than when you search for other kinds of porn.

Thank you for doing the dirty work.


Hahaha, now Google and everyone they sell his data to know he's into cyclist porn (and can probably infer gay porn as well).
 
2013-01-13 06:13:08 PM  

radarlove: Kit Fister: Ah, projection issues and lack of comprehension. Thank you. I now know how to classify you. Have a better one!

Pshhhhh...I WISH I could project my dick size onto others. That would make life much more fun. But you're right- I absolutely fail to comprehend the cowardice of gun owners.

Dimensio: How were you able to ascertain the genital size of your attackers? Was the physical assault a result of an unusual sexual play?

Only once was a beating the result of an encounter gone bad. The other times I made an assumption, but it is a pretty safe assumption to make. Homophobes are notoriously tiny, and homophobia and firearm-zeal tend to go hand in hand.


You forgot the truck with giant wheels, a winch, a cow pusher, 8-way trailer hitch, and 10-20 spot lights pointing forward and back.
 
2013-01-13 06:13:19 PM  
what the hell?
 
2013-01-13 06:13:36 PM  

radarlove: Kit Fister: radarlove: Kit Fister: How so? The fact that he chooses to carry his firearm in a fanny pack rather than a holster?

Actually, I meant the act of carrying a firearm in general.

I'll remember you said that should you ever be attacked.

I've had the shiat kicked out of me many, many times be people with tiny cocks and big guns, and I have yet to feel such cowardice that I'm compelled to try to take their lives.


So, defending yourself is equated to cowardice then? Thus, by extension, the bravest thing you can do is to suffer the attack, the most brave thing being to die at the hands of a criminal/bigot/rapist? WOw, that's some really weird logic ya got going on there.

Personally, having also been attacked and witnessed others being attacked where I could do nothing to help other than throw my body between their attacker and the victim, cowardice or bravery is about how you deal with the situation, not the tools you use.

I don't feel the need to use a gun to defend myself or others because I feel threatened. I feel the need to use a gun to defend myself or others because it's come to a point that if I do not, then a person who didn't deserve to come to harm or death will die. And frankly, I have neither remorse, nor pity, for anyone who would choose to do harm to another without provocation, and who must suffer the consequences of their actions accordingly.

Point a gun at a cop and get shot? You deserved it. Call a black man a n[bong] and get your shiat jacked for it? Definitely deserved it. Get shot because you tried to force yourself on a woman who couldn't physically push you off and had no other recourse? I'll buy her a beer and piss on your grave.

You see, I've been all around this country and I've been in some really sketch places. I'm not afraid of anyone, and I'll keep doing it. However, having seen cases of people shot for as little as the five bucks in their wallet because the asshole didn't believe the guy wasn't holding out on him, I've also firmly decided to stay out of places that might happen, and to do as much damage to my attacker as I can should I be attacked, etc.

I derive no pleasure in believing I may kill someone. I simply acknowledge my life is infinitely more valuable than someone who would threaten my life or that of my loved ones, and have no remorse or compunction on acting in the best interest of my own survival.
 
2013-01-13 06:13:40 PM  
doyner: LATS POST? Let's all hope you drive better than you spell.
 
2013-01-13 06:15:03 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: doyner: LATS POST? Let's all hope you drive better than you spell.


You're ready.   Come join us.
 
2013-01-13 06:15:26 PM  

Glancing Blow: You forgot the truck with giant wheels, a winch, a cow pusher, 8-way trailer hitch, and 10-20 spot lights pointing forward and back.


Correct. And truck nuts/confederate flags/Dale Earnheart stickers. Anyone who owns these things is, in all likelihood, a gun-toting homophobe with a tiny cock.
 
2013-01-13 06:17:51 PM  

Glancing Blow: radarlove: Kit Fister: Ah, projection issues and lack of comprehension. Thank you. I now know how to classify you. Have a better one!

Pshhhhh...I WISH I could project my dick size onto others. That would make life much more fun. But you're right- I absolutely fail to comprehend the cowardice of gun owners.

Dimensio: How were you able to ascertain the genital size of your attackers? Was the physical assault a result of an unusual sexual play?

Only once was a beating the result of an encounter gone bad. The other times I made an assumption, but it is a pretty safe assumption to make. Homophobes are notoriously tiny, and homophobia and firearm-zeal tend to go hand in hand.

You forgot the truck with giant wheels, a winch, a cow pusher, 8-way trailer hitch, and 10-20 spot lights pointing forward and back.


And I have...none of that. Except the winch. I live in a place where a winch might be necessary, and has been needed to pull cars out of ditches and move downed trees and limbs. Otherwise, giant truck wheels just make your truck guzzle more gas, a cow pusher/brush guard isn't necessary since it just adds more weight and doesn't protect against much, 8-way trailer hitch is stupid when you only have one size ball needed for your trailers...though I can't argue with you about spotlights. I have two lights that light up the bed of my truck, and three that point forward that help when plowing snow.

Next the stereotype list?
 
2013-01-13 06:20:27 PM  

radarlove: Correct. And truck nuts/confederate flags/Dale Earnheart stickers. Anyone who owns these things is, in all likelihood, a gun-toting homophobe with a tiny cock.


no truck nuts, confederate flags (only an American flag sticker), or NASCAR stickers -- I hate NASCAR. Boring, retarded sport. Off-road rally racing is more my thing.

I'm also more likely to go to the Symphony than a Toby Keith concert, enjoy broadway musicals and theater over monster truck rallies, and play in the symphony.

I just happen to carry a gun as well.
 
2013-01-13 06:20:32 PM  
I ususally don't mind cyclists, as I do cycle myself sometimes, however, I have a problem with bike messengers. At some point here in NYC, the bike messenger culture got overtaken, or meshed with gutter punk culture.
It's really not good.
 
2013-01-13 06:21:46 PM  

Kit Fister: Next the stereotype list?


What does a gay redneck drive?
 
2013-01-13 06:23:03 PM  

skinink: How bicyclists treat pedestrians:
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 472x848]
If I had the money I would pay off every state politician in Massachusetts to pass a law requiring all bicyclists to ride in the road only. I'm tired of the riders who act like they own the sidewalk.


THIS
 
2013-01-13 06:24:27 PM  
How cyclists see their fellow humans

Not sure if herp or derp.

[dontmakemesayit.jpg]
 
2013-01-13 06:24:35 PM  

doyner: Kit Fister: Next the stereotype list?

What does a gay redneck drive?


A pink F-150 with a "Ride'em cowboy" sticker on the window while wearing assless chaps?
 
2013-01-13 06:27:59 PM  

Kit Fister: Thus, by extension, the bravest thing you can do is to suffer the attack, the most brave thing being to die at the hands of a criminal/bigot/rapist?


While it would be a stretch to call myself a modern Christian, I follow the teachings of Yeshua and this was one of His most crucial lessons. So yes, that is exactly what I believe and adhere to. I won't pretend that it is easy.

Kit Fister: I simply acknowledge my life is infinitely more valuable than someone who would threaten my life or that of my loved ones


Aha- THIS is the core of where our beliefs truly begin to deviate from one another. I humbly accept that my life is no more or less valuable or precious or important than that of even the "worst" people out there. I respect all human life equally, regardless or any personal slight I feel I may have received from someone.
 
2013-01-13 06:28:35 PM  

Kit Fister: doyner: Kit Fister: Next the stereotype list?

What does a gay redneck drive?

A pink F-150 with a "Ride'em cowboy" sticker on the window while wearing assless chaps?


Seems legit.
 
2013-01-13 06:31:24 PM  

radarlove: Stone Meadow: Imma go with "he totally missed the winkie face" interpretation. ;^)

Saw it, but misinterpreted it as the "it's okay, I drink and drive all the time, too!" winky face.


LOL...fair enough, but not this time. I was just completing the old-school Fark meme about suspended licensees suddenly becoming apostles for walking.
 
2013-01-13 06:31:45 PM  
A greenlight to a comic panel seemed odd, but at 350+ comments in such little time I have to say it paid off.
 
2013-01-13 06:35:39 PM  

orbister: serial_crusher: orbister: cyclists need to realise how very difficult it can be for cars to see them

If it's difficult for you to see me, even at night, you are either not paying attention or you need to consult an optometrist.  I'm dressed head to toe in reflective clothing and have 4 blinking lights on my bike.

You'll note that I wrote "how difficult it can be" in a comment about "some cyclists". You sound pretty visible, though I do hope you have at least one fixed light front and back as well. Flashing lights are good for drawing attention to yourself but very bad for actually establishing your position and velocity in a driver's mind. Fluorescent clothing is good in the day time and reflective stuff unbeatable at night.

My pet peeve in this area is (are?) the cyclists who wear one puny little white light at night on their helmets. They either don't care or don't realise that when they stop in the road to turn right (left, in US terms) and look down the road they are entering, they become invisible to oncoming traffic.

Sure, cover yourself and your bike with flashing lights, but have at least one BFO steady white light to the front and one BFO steady red lightto the back.


Interesting. It is in fact difficult to see and correctly interpret bikes and peds in the the dusk or dark. If the bike is being passed by a car or a line of cars is that actually a bike, or just a reflection of headlights? Sometimes the bike lights are drowned out by the car lights. I've sometimes spotted bikes because of the silhouette, not because of their lights. When I ride at night (with lots of lights) I assume no one can see me anyway.

Can we also complain about people who jog or walk on the street instead of on the sidewalk?
 
2013-01-13 06:36:44 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: A greenlight to a comic panel seemed odd, but at 350+ comments in such little time I have to say it paid off.


Maybe we could all chip in and buy subby a nice greasy burrito.
 
2013-01-13 06:38:22 PM  
Just had some cyclist prick blast by me on a sidewalk, missing me by inches. Hey pal, you've got a bell, please use it! I could have changed direction and got your front wheel lodged in my ass.
Said cyclist then did a couple of deliberate skids when rounding a corner, alarming a motorist who thought he was about to skid out into traffic, then blasted through a red light on one of the busiest streets in Brisbane.

Just one cyclist can fark up the public perception of cyclists everywhere. Stop being a dick.
 
2013-01-13 06:41:49 PM  

LadySusan: Can we also complain about people who jog or walk on the street instead of on the sidewalk?


Absolutely not. I've trolled very hard to turn this into a guns & gays thread, and I'm not about to let you ruin my threadjack.
 
2013-01-13 06:43:47 PM  

Amishrabbit: As a daily bicycle commuter and model of good road cycling behavior (yes, I stop and sit there at red lights), nothing annoys me more than Jef-esque douches. Guess what, self-important cyclists of the Entitlement Generation: You're not helping the law-abiding, courteous, and Spandex-free road sharers. Just stay home if you can't behave.


That's me.

I have a bicycle that I occasionally use for errands, like grocery shopping. ( big panniers)

/ I do have some padded cycling shorts for really long rides, but they look pretty normal.
 
2013-01-13 06:43:58 PM  

radarlove: Kit Fister: I simply acknowledge my life is infinitely more valuable than someone who would threaten my life or that of my loved ones

Aha- THIS is the core of where our beliefs truly begin to deviate from one another. I humbly accept that my life is no more or less valuable or precious or important than that of even the "worst" people out there.


You have every right to feel that way, but the rest of us will quite rightly feel that you are an idiot.
Including Darwin, for that matter, as that kind of mindset means you and/or your offspring probably won't be successfully surviving to reproduction.

I honestly hope a armed intruder commits a home invasion and tries to kill your family so you can offer to make him a nice cup of tea. I, personally, used a shotgun to end that same little problem myself years ago, and have had no ethical qualms about it at all since. Still feel bad about hitting a feral cat on a highway once years ago, but that dude, just can't bring myself to care much. Not all life has inherent positive value just because its breathing, and some even has a negative value.
 
2013-01-13 06:45:30 PM  

radarlove: Kit Fister: Thus, by extension, the bravest thing you can do is to suffer the attack, the most brave thing being to die at the hands of a criminal/bigot/rapist?

While it would be a stretch to call myself a modern Christian, I follow the teachings of Yeshua and this was one of His most crucial lessons. So yes, that is exactly what I believe and adhere to. I won't pretend that it is easy.

Kit Fister: I simply acknowledge my life is infinitely more valuable than someone who would threaten my life or that of my loved ones

Aha- THIS is the core of where our beliefs truly begin to deviate from one another. I humbly accept that my life is no more or less valuable or precious or important than that of even the "worst" people out there. I respect all human life equally, regardless or any personal slight I feel I may have received from someone.


Well as an ardent pagan, I respect his teachings, but did he not also teach that one should defend one's self? I do recall that his philosophy did not suggest simply laying down before one who would kill you. His teachings do stress respect for life, but do not go so far as to deny the right to defend one's self, or to kill in self defense. No, I have no citations other than the off quoted bit about selling one's cloak to buy a sword, etc.

I live by a different ethic. I respect life, and others, but I also understand and believe that the lives of myself and those I love are paramount over anyone else. I will go to great lengths to aid someone in trouble, but if my choices are to protect and preserve my family or to allow them to be harmed to protect the life of someone who would attack me, ultimately there is no choice there.

Example: if I were involved in a mall shooting, and I were there with family/loved ones, my job, though armed, is to see them safe and protected first. If that coincided with facing the gunman, sure, but I'm not leaving them to go hunt the guy down. Not my job. Get safe, call cops, protect them.

If I were alone, I might risk it if I thought I could reasonably do something.

As the Havamal says: "never go out your door before your axe and your sword for you never know where trouble may find you."
 
2013-01-13 06:48:46 PM  

Kit Fister: Well as an ardent pagan, I respect his teachings, but did he not also teach that one should defend one's self? I do recall that his philosophy did not suggest simply laying down before one who would kill you. His teachings do stress respect for life, but do not go so far as to deny the right to defend one's self, or to kill in self defense. No, I have no citations other than the off quoted bit about selling one's cloak to buy a sword, etc.


/eyeroll
 
2013-01-13 06:51:57 PM  

Kit Fister: A pink F-150 with a "Ride'em cowboy" sticker on the window while wearing assless chaps?


Now you've done it. If you think bike nuts vs. asshole drivers makes for a bad thread, just wait until the "all chaps are assless" people get here.
 
2013-01-13 06:52:05 PM  

radarlove: LadySusan: Can we also complain about people who jog or walk on the street instead of on the sidewalk?

Absolutely not. I've trolled very hard to turn this into a guns & gays thread, and I'm not about to let you ruin my threadjack.


How about gun carrying straights in a shootout with gun carrying gays jogging or walking in the streets? Jerk! (j/k)
 
2013-01-13 06:52:14 PM  

fireclown: Kit Fister: Well as an ardent pagan, I respect his teachings, but did he not also teach that one should defend one's self? I do recall that his philosophy did not suggest simply laying down before one who would kill you. His teachings do stress respect for life, but do not go so far as to deny the right to defend one's self, or to kill in self defense. No, I have no citations other than the off quoted bit about selling one's cloak to buy a sword, etc.

/eyeroll


farking LOL....can you SEE me? do you have some kind of a camera installed in here? or is it just a safe bet that when someone says, "Well as an ardent pagan" there's gonna be rollin' and twitchin' a-plenty?
 
2013-01-13 06:52:45 PM  

LadySusan: radarlove: LadySusan: Can we also complain about people who jog or walk on the street instead of on the sidewalk?

Absolutely not. I've trolled very hard to turn this into a guns & gays thread, and I'm not about to let you ruin my threadjack.

How about gun carrying straights in a shootout with gun carrying gays jogging or walking in the streets? Jerk! (j/k)


Hmmm I can see that now.
 
2013-01-13 06:54:20 PM  

theorellior: Kit Fister: A pink F-150 with a "Ride'em cowboy" sticker on the window while wearing assless chaps?

Now you've done it. If you think bike nuts vs. asshole drivers makes for a bad thread, just wait until the "all chaps are assless" people get here.


All aps are chassless and don't you forget it. In fact, write that 100 times on the blackboard.
 
2013-01-13 06:54:41 PM  

radarlove: fireclown: Kit Fister: Well as an ardent pagan, I respect his teachings, but did he not also teach that one should defend one's self? I do recall that his philosophy did not suggest simply laying down before one who would kill you. His teachings do stress respect for life, but do not go so far as to deny the right to defend one's self, or to kill in self defense. No, I have no citations other than the off quoted bit about selling one's cloak to buy a sword, etc.

/eyeroll

farking LOL....can you SEE me? do you have some kind of a camera installed in here? or is it just a safe bet that when someone says, "Well as an ardent pagan" there's gonna be rollin' and twitchin' a-plenty?


Same thing if I said ardent atheist? Or ardent scientologist? But yes, let's make fun of people who don't believe the same things you do. Odhinn bless you.
 
2013-01-13 06:54:58 PM  

Kit Fister: LadySusan: radarlove: LadySusan: Can we also complain about people who jog or walk on the street instead of on the sidewalk?

Absolutely not. I've trolled very hard to turn this into a guns & gays thread, and I'm not about to let you ruin my threadjack.

How about gun carrying straights in a shootout with gun carrying gays jogging or walking in the streets? Jerk! (j/k)

Hmmm I can see that now.


Then you should probably move to a safer city, or at the very least away from the window.
 
2013-01-13 06:57:38 PM  

Kit Fister: Same thing if I said ardent atheist? Or ardent scientologist? But yes, let's make fun of people who don't believe the same things you do. Odhinn bless you.


Or Christian or Jewish or Islamic for that matter. It's not that your beliefs are different, it's the zeal.
 
2013-01-13 06:59:03 PM  

letrole: before the internet, cartoons had to be funny or else they didn't get published


I came to this thread with a big ol' bowl of popcorn, but now that I've liked a comment by letrole, I'll never be able to keep down food again.
 
2013-01-13 06:59:58 PM  

radarlove: Kit Fister: radarlove: Kit Fister: How so? The fact that he chooses to carry his firearm in a fanny pack rather than a holster?

Actually, I meant the act of carrying a firearm in general.

I'll remember you said that should you ever be attacked.

I've had the shiat kicked out of me many, many times be people with tiny cocks and big guns, and I have yet to feel such cowardice that I'm compelled to try to take their lives.


Were you running red lights on your Schwinn?
 
2013-01-13 06:59:58 PM  

radarlove: Kit Fister: radarlove: Kit Fister: How so? The fact that he chooses to carry his firearm in a fanny pack rather than a holster?

Actually, I meant the act of carrying a firearm in general.

I'll remember you said that should you ever be attacked.

I've had the shiat kicked out of me many, many times be people with tiny cocks and big guns, and I have yet to feel such cowardice that I'm compelled to try to take their lives.


At the risk of further enabling your troll-ness, I have to ask: Do you really think self defense is cowardice?
 
2013-01-13 07:00:44 PM  
There is no logic to cyclists running red lights ever. The oncoming traffic does not stop.

There is SOME logic to a cyclist running a 4-way stop if no cars are near. As a cyclist you feel most vulnerable when accelerating, so if a car is speeding and runs a 4way stop sign, you have no chance at 5 miles an hour where 20 gets you out of harm's way faster. Plus I can accelerate like crazy if I'm already moving.
 
2013-01-13 07:05:12 PM  
For all of you motorists. if the guy on the bicycle is frantically gesturing for you to go, Don't wait, GO! It means he's figured out that IF YOU GET OUT OF THE WAY he won't have to slow down, so you're being far more courteous by taking his counter-offer.
 
2013-01-13 07:08:58 PM  
All any reasonable person is expecting from cyclist is to OBEY THE LAWS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. If you want drivers of vehicles to respect you, you must respect them.

If you want to ride your bike on the road with vehicles, you have to act as a vehicle and obey the rules of the road. It absolutely infuriates me to see a cyclist instantly morph from a vehicle to a pedestrian and hit the crosswalk when the light turns red.

What if drivers of motor vehicles acted the way some cyclists do? Running red lights and stop signs just because "no one else is there"? What if cars just skipped over to the crosswalk or sidewalk to "disguise" themselves as a pedestrian to skirt stop lights?

Why are bikes any different? The answer is they aren't.

My favorite douche cyclist is this guy that switches back and forth between lanes constantly just to get in front of drivers to slow them down. He never signals. He very abruptly changes lanes. I mean he is just ASKING to get hit.
 
2013-01-13 07:10:17 PM  

Watching_Epoxy_Cure: radarlove: Kit Fister: radarlove: Kit Fister: How so? The fact that he chooses to carry his firearm in a fanny pack rather than a holster?

Actually, I meant the act of carrying a firearm in general.

I'll remember you said that should you ever be attacked.

I've had the shiat kicked out of me many, many times be people with tiny cocks and big guns, and I have yet to feel such cowardice that I'm compelled to try to take their lives.

At the risk of further enabling your troll-ness, I have to ask: Do you really think self defense is cowardice?


Nah. I'm far from a pacifist- I own weapons. I'm also married to a woman. I do love the cock and being a pedestrian, though. That much was true, as was the post about my driving record/getting run over on my way to work.

Don't worry about being an enabler, it is dinnertime and so time for me to egress. All in all though, I'd say that this has been one of my favorite threadjacks.

Thanks for the laughs, all! You've been perfect!

stuffpoint.com
 
2013-01-13 07:13:08 PM  

radarlove: Kit Fister: Same thing if I said ardent atheist? Or ardent scientologist? But yes, let's make fun of people who don't believe the same things you do. Odhinn bless you.

Or Christian or Jewish or Islamic for that matter. It's not that your beliefs are different, it's the zeal.


Okay, perhaps I should have said "affirmed" or something similar. I am not "ardent" as in I push others or preach or proselytize, but rather that I believe in my values and try to be true to them. Make more sense?
 
2013-01-13 07:13:20 PM  
This is why I asked for a dash cam for xmas. I dread dropping the wife off at campus. Literally every time there is some dbag on a bike running a stop sign or plowing thru a red light at an intersection. Some have headphones, some don't. Some are real special and will literally laugh at you as they run the stop sign in front of you. So for the day that someone runs into me or even walks into me, I will at least have a defense. I used to email the campus cops to just sit at this one intersection, but they really don't care. I really don't like prison and watching other men shiat a foot from my head, so trying to take the high road (no pun intended) on this one and just go with a good defense

Quantum Apostrophe: If a bike weighs 3000 pounds and has 300 horsepower at its disposal, they might have a point. I have this thing called a brain. It allows me to understand my surroundings and plan my movements. I can stop on a dime. My bike weighs 13 pounds. At worst, someone will have a contusion.
/Proud red light runner since like forever
//Cyclists who smoke and wear headphones and text while cycling are the problem. (I've seen that)
///And don't get me started on Rascals and scooters on the bike path


I relish the day I read your obituary.
 
2013-01-13 07:13:22 PM  

theorellior: I don't ride like a dick. I ride defensively. Cars can kill me just as look at me sideways. But just as drivers break laws for their own convenience every damn day without any repercussions, I'm gonna do the same on my bike.


Kind of contradicting yourself there, aren't you sparky?
 
2013-01-13 07:15:23 PM  

SN1987a goes boom: JasonOfOrillia: The My Little Pony Killer: Hey fark you too buddy.

/pedestrian
//doesn't jaywalk

///seriously, equating people who jaywalk with people who are sexual predators of children? I'd invite you to stay classy but I'd have to believe you had any in the first place

The fact that you don't jaywalk is cool. That is the responsible thing to do. And "Pedo" is merely short for pedestrian. As for those sexual predators of children, I'm not sure someone who seems to advertise themselves and a fan of a children's show should be raising that issue at all.

Not sure what planet you live on, but on Earth the term "pedo" has only ever meant one thing.


So what would a "pedometer" be used for? Measuring someone's tendency toward child molestation?
 
2013-01-13 07:17:48 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: Quantum Apostrophe: If a bike weighs 3000 pounds and has 300 horsepower at its disposal, they might have a point. I have this thing called a brain. It allows me to understand my surroundings and plan my movements. I can stop on a dime. My bike weighs 13 pounds. At worst, someone will have a contusion.
/Proud red light runner since like forever
//Cyclists who smoke and wear headphones and text while cycling are the problem. (I've seen that)
///And don't get me started on Rascals and scooters on the bike path

So a driver has no right to expect you to behave as a vehicle? So they stop at the 4-way stop, expecting you to stop next. They go (all legal), you blow in front of them, they have to jam on the brakes. You think that's fine?

Traffic rules are there so that people know what to expect on the road. Random violations are so common by bikes that I assume they'll do the dumbest possible thing at any given moment, with no regard for their own safety. I don't care if the cyclist is 100% at fault and there's video evidence of it: I don't want to kill one. So stop being douchebags and follow the damned rules.


Another A2er abused by the cyclists and pedestrian students as well I see.
 
2013-01-13 07:20:20 PM  
So, our local light rail system had a train do a panic stop recently due to a cyclist blowing thru a red light IN FRONT OF A FREAKING TRAIN, and a passenger on board got a broken arm from getting tossed forward, so someone's really getting a kick ...

Trains don't stop fast, but they stop a helluva lot faster than the unrestrained meatsacks on board.

But if cyclists are unconcerned about 150,000 pound vehicles with dime-sized metal-on-metal friction surfaces for stopping, yeah, I don't see them worrying about the occasional Hummer.
 
2013-01-13 07:24:44 PM  

theorellior: Dr Jack Badofsky: Okay, if you hit me while I'm driving and you kill me with your bike and I so happen to be breaking the law, no hard feelings.

Remember my comment about 2000 lbs versus 20 lbs? I'm gonna go back to that.

Dr Jack Badofsky: If, for some reason, I hit you and kill you while you're breaking the law, oh well. I'm pretty sure law enforcement will see it that way too.

Motorists can kill cyclists any day of the week, up down and sideways, regardless of whether the cyclist is playing by the rules, so I don't give a rat's ass about laws. I care about riding like I have a target painted on my ass.


Well now, now that that has finally absorbed into your brain, keep it in mind next time you run the light and a quiet hybrid stealthily sneaks up and wipes its ass with you, much less an F-250 or a Peterbuilt.
 
2013-01-13 07:25:07 PM  

kendelrio: SN1987a goes boom: JasonOfOrillia: The My Little Pony Killer: Hey fark you too buddy.

/pedestrian
//doesn't jaywalk

///seriously, equating people who jaywalk with people who are sexual predators of children? I'd invite you to stay classy but I'd have to believe you had any in the first place

The fact that you don't jaywalk is cool. That is the responsible thing to do. And "Pedo" is merely short for pedestrian. As for those sexual predators of children, I'm not sure someone who seems to advertise themselves and a fan of a children's show should be raising that issue at all.

Not sure what planet you live on, but on Earth the term "pedo" has only ever meant one thing.

So what would a "pedometer" be used for? Measuring someone's tendency toward child molestation?


From Meriam Webster:

pedo-
1
a combining form meaning "child," used in the formation of compound words: pedophilia

But go ahead, act like "pedo" and "pedometer" are the same word or share similar meanings. I'm betting someone won't think you are a complete moron.
 
2013-01-13 07:25:14 PM  

megarian: serial_crusher: megarian: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

The fanny pack would be a good start.

/I keed
//I still want to know about the outfits. I'm a girl and I don't think I own anything that tight.
///if you got it, flaunt it?

Really, what's not to get.  Doesn't flap around in the wind, is breathable in the summer, windproof in the winter, has bright colors to make you more visible.  Not hard.

Relax.

I understand that aspect of them. And many if them are not for visibility. A friend has a umm... outfit that's black and dark purple and silver. Not exactly more visible. I think sometimes people just want an excuse to wear Spandex. It's all good. Sometimes I look for an excuse to wear cocktail dresses.

/just rustleling some jimmies.
//was simply trolling for some awesome Spandex cyclist pics


Here you go.

i50.tinypic.com

A race I did twenty four years ago. Yes, I'm old.
 
2013-01-13 07:40:17 PM  

Ex-Texan: I ride quite a bit and have seen lotsa 'holish riders and drivers too. I always stop at lights and stop signs.There have been people honking at me to move over, on a single lane country road, with no shoulder, had things thrown at me too.Had someone here get right on my rear tire and hoonk their horn at me in a 25 zone, and I was going almost 30, according to my GPS. Out here, I only ride on Really wide shoulders, the downside being sometimes I get a lot of flats. Since I've spent over 3k on my CFR(catbon fiber race) bike, Ridden it on a couple 150 mile trips, as well as 2 Santa Fe centuries (100 miles). I always pack plenty of patches/tubes, as well as a personal attitude adjust tool.
  Now I'm not forcing my point of view, but a few 'holes out there don' indict all of us, as we should not judge the fat driver 'holes versus the responsible drivers. My bike is insured(Personal Article Floater), and don't try to screw with me, and you won't risk being vented. I mind my own business and obey the laws, I'd suggest you do the same. Suck it, haters. What are you in a hurry for, your insulin scrip at Walgreens, Dialysis, or your hoverround just got fixed, or your prescription pants just came in?


With grouping like that, you're part of the problem. Why own a weapon you can't use effectively?

ITG alert
 
2013-01-13 07:41:03 PM  

SN1987a goes boom: kendelrio: SN1987a goes boom: JasonOfOrillia: The My Little Pony Killer: Hey fark you too buddy.

/pedestrian
//doesn't jaywalk

///seriously, equating people who jaywalk with people who are sexual predators of children? I'd invite you to stay classy but I'd have to believe you had any in the first place

The fact that you don't jaywalk is cool. That is the responsible thing to do. And "Pedo" is merely short for pedestrian. As for those sexual predators of children, I'm not sure someone who seems to advertise themselves and a fan of a children's show should be raising that issue at all.

Not sure what planet you live on, but on Earth the term "pedo" has only ever meant one thing.

So what would a "pedometer" be used for? Measuring someone's tendency toward child molestation?

From Meriam Webster:

pedo-
1
a combining form meaning "child," used in the formation of compound words: pedophilia

But go ahead, act like "pedo" and "pedometer" are the same word or share similar meanings. I'm betting someone won't think you are a complete moron.


I'm making the point that "pedo" as applied by cyclists (I'm not one) probably is used in reference to it meaning walker, not pedophile.

/sensitive much?
 
2013-01-13 07:45:49 PM  

kendelrio: SN1987a goes boom: kendelrio: SN1987a goes boom: JasonOfOrillia: The My Little Pony Killer: Hey fark you too buddy.

/pedestrian
//doesn't jaywalk

///seriously, equating people who jaywalk with people who are sexual predators of children? I'd invite you to stay classy but I'd have to believe you had any in the first place

The fact that you don't jaywalk is cool. That is the responsible thing to do. And "Pedo" is merely short for pedestrian. As for those sexual predators of children, I'm not sure someone who seems to advertise themselves and a fan of a children's show should be raising that issue at all.

Not sure what planet you live on, but on Earth the term "pedo" has only ever meant one thing.

So what would a "pedometer" be used for? Measuring someone's tendency toward child molestation?

From Meriam Webster:

pedo-
1
a combining form meaning "child," used in the formation of compound words: pedophilia

But go ahead, act like "pedo" and "pedometer" are the same word or share similar meanings. I'm betting someone won't think you are a complete moron.

I'm making the point that "pedo" as applied by cyclists (I'm not one) probably is used in reference to it meaning walker, not pedophile.

/sensitive much?


I am a cyclist, and have been for 20 years or so. Nobody uses "pedo" to refer to pedestrians. We call them pedestrians.

Maybe tbey were referring to penn staters.
 
2013-01-13 07:55:20 PM  

fireclown: kendelrio: SN1987a goes boom: kendelrio: SN1987a goes boom: JasonOfOrillia: The My Little Pony Killer: Hey fark you too buddy.

/pedestrian
//doesn't jaywalk

///seriously, equating people who jaywalk with people who are sexual predators of children? I'd invite you to stay classy but I'd have to believe you had any in the first place

The fact that you don't jaywalk is cool. That is the responsible thing to do. And "Pedo" is merely short for pedestrian. As for those sexual predators of children, I'm not sure someone who seems to advertise themselves and a fan of a children's show should be raising that issue at all.

Not sure what planet you live on, but on Earth the term "pedo" has only ever meant one thing.

So what would a "pedometer" be used for? Measuring someone's tendency toward child molestation?

From Meriam Webster:

pedo-
1
a combining form meaning "child," used in the formation of compound words: pedophilia

But go ahead, act like "pedo" and "pedometer" are the same word or share similar meanings. I'm betting someone won't think you are a complete moron.

I'm making the point that "pedo" as applied by cyclists (I'm not one) probably is used in reference to it meaning walker, not pedophile.

/sensitive much?

I am a cyclist, and have been for 20 years or so. Nobody uses "pedo" to refer to pedestrians. We call them pedestrians.

Maybe tbey were referring to penn staters.


Fair enough. It was mentioned up thread.
 
2013-01-13 07:56:15 PM  

kendelrio: Pedo


kendelrio: SN1987a goes boom: JasonOfOrillia: The My Little Pony Killer: Hey fark you too buddy.

/pedestrian
//doesn't jaywalk

///seriously, equating people who jaywalk with people who are sexual predators of children? I'd invite you to stay classy but I'd have to believe you had any in the first place

The fact that you don't jaywalk is cool. That is the responsible thing to do. And "Pedo" is merely short for pedestrian. As for those sexual predators of children, I'm not sure someone who seems to advertise themselves and a fan of a children's show should be raising that issue at all.

Not sure what planet you live on, but on Earth the term "pedo" has only ever meant one thing.

So what would a "pedometer" be used for? Measuring someone's tendency toward child molestation?


The internet is way ahead of you.

i49.tinypic.com
 
2013-01-13 08:02:39 PM  

doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: Nope... not reading this thread.

/last post

oh FFS,

\feels like a trap.

It is.  It sucks you in.

Does not!

Let's
Agree
That
Sometimes

People
Overlook
Simple
Truths

[assets.shiatbrix.com image 674x535]

\Does not

John used to run stoplights in his 4lb carbon-fiber special edition Lance Armstrong Tour de France GraphitechTM racer.


John must have been enormous! A 4 lb carbon frame is ridiculously heavy.
Besides, IFF there are no cars, what is wrong with running lights?

\you know what IFF means, right?
 
2013-01-13 08:17:31 PM  

megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.


I expect to understand women long before I understand those stupid outfits.
 
2013-01-13 08:21:10 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: Nope... not reading this thread.

/last post

oh FFS,

\feels like a trap.

It is.  It sucks you in.

Does not!

Let's
Agree
That
Sometimes

People
Overlook
Simple
Truths

[assets.shiatbrix.com image 674x535]

\Does not

John used to run stoplights in his 4lb carbon-fiber special edition Lance Armstrong Tour de France GraphitechTM racer.

John must have been enormous! A 4 lb carbon frame is ridiculously heavy.
Besides, IFF there are no cars, what is wrong with running lights?

\you know what IFF means, right?


Identify Friend or Foe.

//iff, however, means "if and only if".
 
2013-01-13 08:38:48 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: Nope... not reading ...

...what is wrong with running lights?


if cars have running lights, then motorcycles stand out much less from other quick-moving vehicles, making them much more susceptible to collisions.
 
2013-01-13 08:58:34 PM  

Dimensio: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: Nope... not reading this thread.

/last post

oh FFS,

\feels like a trap.

It is.  It sucks you in.

Does not!

Let's
Agree
That
Sometimes

People
Overlook
Simple
Truths

[assets.shiatbrix.com image 674x535]

\Does not

John used to run stoplights in his 4lb carbon-fiber special edition Lance Armstrong Tour de France GraphitechTM racer.

John must have been enormous! A 4 lb carbon frame is ridiculously heavy.
Besides, IFF there are no cars, what is wrong with running lights?

\you know what IFF means, right?

Identify Friend or Foe.

//iff, however, means "if and only if".


Really? I had no idea capitalization mattered... thanks!
 
2013-01-13 08:59:32 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: Nope... not reading ...

...what is wrong with running lights?

if cars have running lights, then motorcycles stand out much less from other quick-moving vehicles, making them much more susceptible to collisions.


I sadly understood none of this, but I tried. Can you rephrase?
 
2013-01-13 09:06:59 PM  
Oh, and just because nobody has yet called you on it, Subby, cyclists do not see their fellows as "human". ;^)

/cyclist
 
2013-01-13 09:07:45 PM  
The wonderful thing about cyclists is the popping noise they make as you run over them.

/2 tons beats 180 pounds every single time.
 
2013-01-13 09:14:17 PM  

Stone Meadow: Oh, and just because nobody has yet called you on it, Subby, cyclists do not see their fellows as "human". ;^)

/cyclist


well, you can't have a human slalom with out the human, can you?

\friggin' retards on the multi-use paths.
\\almost as bad as college kids on campus.
 
2013-01-13 09:19:33 PM  

fluffy2097: The wonderful thing about cyclists is the popping noise they make as you run over them.

/2 tons beats 180 pounds every single time.


not when that 2 tons is a rock and that 180 pounds is a paper... sp there!
 
2013-01-13 09:20:59 PM  
On the way to the gym today at a four way stop a cyclist did not stop. I had the right of way. He was not going too fast but had he and not stopped, he wouldn't have been too hurt due to the stop to acceleration to slow speed limit. He was wearing spandex. All I could think of was: "Huh, you're one of those dicks."
 
2013-01-13 09:23:20 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Stone Meadow: Oh, and just because nobody has yet called you on it, Subby, cyclists do not see their fellows as "human". ;^)

/cyclist

well, you can't have a human slalom with out the human, can you?

\friggin' retards on the multi-use paths.
\\almost as bad as college kids on campus.


LOL...yep. I have the same reaction to pedestrians on my local paths. I constantly have to weave and dodge to avoid them on nice mornings. Of course, I use a bike bell to forewarn them, but am not above instructing them..."Passing on the left!"...to avoid conflicts.

/really...REALLY don't want to hit a micro-person
 
2013-01-13 09:50:41 PM  

Repo Man: megarian: serial_crusher: megarian: Dimensio: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

Do you wish an explanation for my jeans, for my T-shirt, for my windbreaker or for my fanny pack?

The fanny pack would be a good start.

/I keed
//I still want to know about the outfits. I'm a girl and I don't think I own anything that tight.
///if you got it, flaunt it?

Really, what's not to get.  Doesn't flap around in the wind, is breathable in the summer, windproof in the winter, has bright colors to make you more visible.  Not hard.

Relax.

I understand that aspect of them. And many if them are not for visibility. A friend has a umm... outfit that's black and dark purple and silver. Not exactly more visible. I think sometimes people just want an excuse to wear Spandex. It's all good. Sometimes I look for an excuse to wear cocktail dresses.

/just rustleling some jimmies.
//was simply trolling for some awesome Spandex cyclist pics

Here you go.



A race I did twenty four years ago. Yes, I'm old.


How YOU doin'?
 
2013-01-13 09:52:00 PM  

OgreMagi: megarian: I just want someone to explain the outfits to me.

I expect to understand women long before I understand those stupid outfits.


It's good to have goal

Lofty, lofty goals. ;)
 
2013-01-13 09:53:43 PM  
*goals, too

/Jameson time
//yeah, kinda like Hammer Time
 
2013-01-13 10:01:41 PM  

Jument: JesusJuice: When I was in college we used to throw water bottles at cyclists who rode way to the left and wouldn't move over.

You are a redneck asshole, sir.


I know. Never said I wasn't, f*ck you very much.
 
2013-01-13 10:03:50 PM  
Quantum Apo is alway threadshiatting in Space related threads that all space exploration is a waste and that those resources are better spent on "Life Extension", he says. Then he comes in here and tells us he is one of those bike douches that ignores traffic laws and regularly runs red lights. So, QA, you want more life... just so you can squander it as a pulpy red stain on some intersection? That's seriously farked up.

He also threadshiats in threads about 3-d printing, even though it's growing to become one of the key technologies in modern bike production, especially custom bike production.
 
2013-01-13 10:16:49 PM  

Stone Meadow: Uchiha_Cycliste: Stone Meadow: Oh, and just because nobody has yet called you on it, Subby, cyclists do not see their fellows as "human". ;^)

/cyclist

well, you can't have a human slalom with out the human, can you?

\friggin' retards on the multi-use paths.
\\almost as bad as college kids on campus.

LOL...yep. I have the same reaction to pedestrians on my local paths. I constantly have to weave and dodge to avoid them on nice mornings. Of course, I use a bike bell to forewarn them, but am not above instructing them..."Passing on the left!"...to avoid conflicts.

/really...REALLY don't want to hit a micro-person


My favorite retard reaction is the classic "deer in headlights" followed by the "jumping into my path" when if the guy had jsut stayed where he was there would have been no issue.
I too use the bike bell and there is like a 50% chance they will react the wrong way. Personally I blame the fact that the trail nearest me, San Tomas Aquaduct trail has many Intel and other engineering places employees working there, and very few are white.
 
2013-01-13 10:18:48 PM  

special20: Why must we have to share the road with the uninsured, untaxed, and unlicensed vehicles?


Because we all own the road, douchestick
 
2013-01-13 10:21:30 PM  

Bigjohn3592: special20: Why must we have to share the road with the uninsured, untaxed, and unlicensed vehicles?

Because we all own the road, douchestick


I never understood this attitude. When this cockwaffle prefer we were driving and in his way increasing traffic? Can he just not stand to see people that aren't as miserable as him, slogging through the daily hate commute? What's the deal? We are out of the way, exercising, enjoying ourselves and essentially one less car on the road. What part of that is bad?
 
2013-01-13 10:29:04 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: We are out of the way, exercising, enjoying ourselves and essentially one less car on the road. What part of that is bad?


It isn't per se, but when that one cyclist adds the congestion of 20 autos, well....
 
2013-01-13 10:34:56 PM  
People like Jef do not exist. This is wank material for cyclist haters.

Some cyclists do think it's ok to blow through stop signs and lights occasionally. Hell, in my state, it's explicitly legal in some situations. However, it's not out of a feeling of superiority. It's based on four other things:

1. Bikes are harder to stop and start than cars, so avoiding pointless stops is more important.
2. Bikes are generally much slower than cars, so cyclists have more time to react and can stop more quickly.
3. Cyclists have unobstructed vision and hearing and therefore have much greater awareness of their surroundings than the drivers of cars. In particular, it's a lot easier to see if an intersection you are approaching is empty.
4. Bikes have a lot less mass than cars and therefore pose much less threat to others.

So, it's not because bikes are better than cars, it's because bikes are different than cars, and something that is dangerous for them is much safer for cyclists. If cars routinely drove around at 15 mph they wouldn't need stop signs either, and indeed in residential grids where speeds are always low they are sometimes absent.
 
2013-01-13 10:36:30 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: So a driver has no right to expect you to behave as a vehicle? So they stop at the 4-way stop, expecting you to stop next. They go (all legal), you blow in front of them, they have to jam on the brakes. You think that's fine?


I'm sure you're not even remotely aware that motorists are much more likely to do this to me than other cyclists. I've had it happen countless times when stopping as we all should.

And I'm sure you NEVER exceed the speed limit (which, by the way, is one of the primary causes in motor vehicle mishaps and deaths).

Yeah, let he who is without sin...
 
2013-01-13 10:38:19 PM  

doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: We are out of the way, exercising, enjoying ourselves and essentially one less car on the road. What part of that is bad?

It isn't per se, but when that one cyclist adds the congestion of 20 autos, well....


But 99% of cyclists don't, we have bike lanes and stuff. And even when a cyclist is (briefly) in the way, you pass after a minute and go upon your way. It's still a lot better than if I was on the freeway, for you.
It's the same BS as people who accuse all cyclists of playing fast and loose with the traffic laws. The vast, vast majority of cyclists (who aren't college students =/) obey the laws, you just never see them because they are obeying the laws.
 
2013-01-13 10:39:48 PM  

TwowheelinTim: JohnAnnArbor: So a driver has no right to expect you to behave as a vehicle? So they stop at the 4-way stop, expecting you to stop next. They go (all legal), you blow in front of them, they have to jam on the brakes. You think that's fine?

I'm sure you're not even remotely aware that motorists are much more likely to do this to me than other cyclists. I've had it happen countless times when stopping as we all should.

And I'm sure you NEVER exceed the speed limit (which, by the way, is one of the primary causes in motor vehicle mishaps and deaths).

Yeah, let he who is without sin...


I've been trying my damndest to get a speeding ticket with no luck =(.
My one ticket was 53 in a 35 near my parent's house when I was 16.
Near my house there is a hill where I can regularly hit 53 in a 35 and even sometimes see cops there, but have had no luck.

I want that ticket so badly, I'll frame it, put it on my wall, it'll be awesome.
 
2013-01-13 10:40:21 PM  

stiletto_the_wise: I remember a great cyclist moment.

Where I used to live, the road outside my house was a popular one for those huge long "trains" of 30 cyclists who ignore all traffic laws and in general act like total douchebags. I lived on the intersection of that road and a small road that went to a community behind my block. I've often almost been struck as a pedestrian by these asses. Well, one day, there was a big ol F-350000 huge honkin pick'up truck at the intersection, the light turned green, and he started into the intersection. Just as one of these douche-trains was in the process of ignoring their red light.

That "THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP sound that they made each smacking into the side of the pickup truck made my day. It was probably the most satisfying sound I've ever heard in my life.

/ #2 was afterwards, the shreeking and biatching and moaning from the lawbreaking cyclists picking up their twisted wrecked bikes, who were FURIOUS at the truck driver who dared to enter the intersection on a green light.


Now THAT's huckin' filarious. A video of that would be the only way to top it.
 
2013-01-13 10:44:28 PM  

Soymilk: theorellior: doyner: I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.

If a cyclist runs a red light and no motorist's right-of-way is infringed, does a driver still get butthurt?

What if a red light running cyclist mows down and kills a pedestrian?


Tell ya what, do a google search of deaths caused by bicyclists, then do one for deaths caused by motorists. Get back to me with your results. EIP.
 
2013-01-13 10:47:10 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: But 99% of cyclists don't, we have bike lanes and stuff. And even when a cyclist is (briefly) in the way, you pass after a minute and go upon your way. It's still a lot better than if I was on the freeway, for you.
It's the same BS as people who accuse all cyclists of playing fast and loose with the traffic laws. The vast, vast majority of cyclists (who aren't college students =/) obey the laws, you just never see them because they are obeying the laws.


I'm for sharing the road.  All I ask is that people obey the rules the same.  One reason you don't ride the highways I use is because doing so (for a cyclist) is illegal, so...

My issue is with the assholes who get all self-righteous about disobeying traffic laws (e.g. this thread).  You are quite unlikely to be an annoyance to me on the road.
 
2013-01-13 10:47:13 PM  

TwowheelinTim: Soymilk: theorellior: doyner: I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.

If a cyclist runs a red light and no motorist's right-of-way is infringed, does a driver still get butthurt?

What if a red light running cyclist mows down and kills a pedestrian?

Tell ya what, do a google search of deaths caused by bicyclists, then do one for deaths caused by motorists. Get back to me with your results. EIP.


there was one in SF a few months ago, and i swear to god I hope that douch bag cyclist burns.   If my hands weren't tied by the unalterable fetters of the law, then I would invoke the tradition of our illustrious forebears, reach back to a purer, sterner justice, and have you BURNED AT THE STAKE!
 
2013-01-13 10:51:32 PM  

doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: But 99% of cyclists don't, we have bike lanes and stuff. And even when a cyclist is (briefly) in the way, you pass after a minute and go upon your way. It's still a lot better than if I was on the freeway, for you.
It's the same BS as people who accuse all cyclists of playing fast and loose with the traffic laws. The vast, vast majority of cyclists (who aren't college students =/) obey the laws, you just never see them because they are obeying the laws.

I'm for sharing the road.  All I ask is that people obey the rules the same.  One reason you don't ride the highways I use is because doing so (for a cyclist) is illegal, so...

My issue is with the assholes who get all self-righteous about disobeying traffic laws (e.g. this thread).  You are quite unlikely to be an annoyance to me on the road.


We have something down in Silicon valley called expressways that are sort of like freeways, very few lights, onramps and offramps, but with wide bike lanes and no peds allowed. They are so awesome. It's hands down the fastest way to get around and I love them.

Also, sometimes bikes are allowed on freeways; when there is no other choice for a cyclist. Off the to pof my head, 680 from fish ranch road to the next exit. 78 in Rancho Bernardo to get around lake so-and-so and the 5 freeway for 8 miles from san onofree to Oceanside. You used to be allowed to ride through Camp Pendalton. Then after 9/11 you needed a CA drivers license. Then they forbid it outright.
Now, on that part of the freeway everyone 16+ lanes wide is doing almost 100 and it's absolutely terrifying, I refuse to ride to San Diego anymore because of it .
 
2013-01-13 10:52:15 PM  
Not *you* twowheeledtim, the douchebag-hipster old-man-killing cyclist punk.
 
2013-01-13 10:56:03 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: We have something down in Silicon valley called expressways that are sort of like freeways, very few lights, onramps and offramps, but with wide bike lanes and no peds allowed. They are so awesome. It's hands down the fastest way to get around and I love them.

Also, sometimes bikes are allowed on freeways; when there is no other choice for a cyclist. Off the to pof my head, 680 from fish ranch road to the next exit. 78 in Rancho Bernardo to get around lake so-and-so and the 5 freeway for 8 miles from san onofree to Oceanside. You used to be allowed to ride through Camp Pendalton. Then after 9/11 you needed a CA drivers license. Then they forbid it outright.
Now, on that part of the freeway everyone 16+ lanes wide is doing almost 100 and it's absolutely terrifying, I refuse to ride to San Diego anymore because of it .


I do hate driving in Cali. It's legal to split lanes (motorcycles and bicycles) when traffic is AT A FARKING STOP.  But too many assholes split lanes at speed and ask to cause accidents.  Anyway, as I said before, same road, same rules and everything's cool.

/I'm ALL for bike lanes, and think it's great you have what you do there.
 
2013-01-13 11:00:25 PM  

doyner: Uchiha_Cycliste: We have something down in Silicon valley called expressways that are sort of like freeways, very few lights, onramps and offramps, but with wide bike lanes and no peds allowed. They are so awesome. It's hands down the fastest way to get around and I love them.

Also, sometimes bikes are allowed on freeways; when there is no other choice for a cyclist. Off the to pof my head, 680 from fish ranch road to the next exit. 78 in Rancho Bernardo to get around lake so-and-so and the 5 freeway for 8 miles from san onofree to Oceanside. You used to be allowed to ride through Camp Pendalton. Then after 9/11 you needed a CA drivers license. Then they forbid it outright.
Now, on that part of the freeway everyone 16+ lanes wide is doing almost 100 and it's absolutely terrifying, I refuse to ride to San Diego anymore because of it .

I do hate driving in Cali. It's legal to split lanes (motorcycles and bicycles) when traffic is AT A FARKING STOP.  But too many assholes split lanes at speed and ask to cause accidents.  Anyway, as I said before, same road, same rules and everything's cool.

/I'm ALL for bike lanes, and think it's great you have what you do there.


Nor Cal is pretty amazing for cyclists, so cal is hell. Up here we have a happy truce with the drivers and an understanding that they are the threat, not us. Especially the young professionals who think texting whole they drink coffee and drive their new Boxter with a stick is safe and okay. We have bike lanes and everybody gets along. So cal is hella dangerous, the drivers are all assholes and If you "cut them off" by having teh audacity to take the right of way with a green light while they have a red, they will get out of their SUV and start yelling at you that they will hurt you.* It's like two separate CA's.

\*true story, happened in Irvine.
\\Off to see zero dark thirty, I'm dying to find out if they catch him or not.
 
2013-01-13 11:01:59 PM  
I lived in Monterey/Pacific Grove.  Worst of both worlds unfortunately.
 
2013-01-13 11:07:54 PM  

Mitrovarr: People like Jef do not exist. This is wank material for cyclist haters.

Some cyclists do think it's ok to blow through stop signs and lights occasionally. Hell, in my state, it's explicitly legal in some situations. However, it's not out of a feeling of superiority. It's based on four other things:

1. Bikes are harder to stop and start than cars, so avoiding pointless stops is more important.
2. Bikes are generally much slower than cars, so cyclists have more time to react and can stop more quickly.
3. Cyclists have unobstructed vision and hearing and therefore have much greater awareness of their surroundings than the drivers of cars. In particular, it's a lot easier to see if an intersection you are approaching is empty.
4. Bikes have a lot less mass than cars and therefore pose much less threat to others.

So, it's not because bikes are better than cars, it's because bikes are different than cars, and something that is dangerous for them is much safer for cyclists. If cars routinely drove around at 15 mph they wouldn't need stop signs either, and indeed in residential grids where speeds are always low they are sometimes absent.


I doubt it's explicitly legal for a bicyclist to "blow through" a stop sign or traffic signal in your state in any situation.

1. Define pointless stop in relation to legally required stops.
2. At some point (think doing 50 mph downhill) bicycles may not be able to stop quickly and easily.
3. Nonsense. As a motorist, cyclist, and motorcycle rider I'll grant you that sense of smell on a bike or motorcycle is much better.
4. As a pedestrian I don't want to get hit by 200 pounds of bike and rider or a couple of tons of vehicle and drive. People die from getting hit by bicyclists so saying that one case of irresponsibility is less harmful than another doesn't sit well with me.

I don't think I want to share the road with you whether I'm walking, riding a bike, driving a car, or riding my motorcycle. Your attitude sucks and could end up being a fatal shortcoming.
 
2013-01-13 11:10:16 PM  
There is a paved trail around a lake near my house, and sometimes a pair of idiot bikers ride around it as fast as they can. Unfortunately, it is a hilly area with hairpin turns around blind corners. They nearly ran over me, luckily my 10 year old was several feet behind me. Pricks.

Eventually they will hit a person or leash, or dog. Hopefully a big, vindictive dog.
 
2013-01-13 11:10:50 PM  

theorellior: doyner: I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.

If a cyclist runs a red light and no motorist's right-of-way is infringed, does a driver still get butthurt?


Doesn`t really matter, It's still against the law.
 
2013-01-13 11:13:59 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: TwowheelinTim: Soymilk: theorellior: doyner: I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.

If a cyclist runs a red light and no motorist's right-of-way is infringed, does a driver still get butthurt?

What if a red light running cyclist mows down and kills a pedestrian?

Tell ya what, do a google search of deaths caused by bicyclists, then do one for deaths caused by motorists. Get back to me with your results. EIP.

there was one in SF a few months ago, and i swear to god I hope that douch bag cyclist burns.   If my hands weren't tied by the unalterable fetters of the law, then I would invoke the tradition of our illustrious forebears, reach back to a purer, sterner justice, and have you BURNED AT THE STAKE!


Okay, that's one. And I agree, the cyclist would be penalized as a motorist would if he squished a cyclist or pedestrian. Which, by the way, isn't harsh enough in my opinion.
 
2013-01-13 11:15:08 PM  

doglover: Yeah. That's about right.

Self identified cyclists are the lowest form of life on the road. Basically they're below possums and deed. At least there's 70lbs of good eatin' on a deer. You hit a cyclist, the best you can hope for is the police charging them for causing the accident. Too stringy for the cookpot.


i.cdn.turner.com
that is why you need to fry it up, nom nom nom.
 
2013-01-13 11:15:47 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: TwowheelinTim: Soymilk: theorellior: doyner: I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.

If a cyclist runs a red light and no motorist's right-of-way is infringed, does a driver still get butthurt?

What if a red light running cyclist mows down and kills a pedestrian?

Tell ya what, do a google search of deaths caused by bicyclists, then do one for deaths caused by motorists. Get back to me with your results. EIP.

there was one in SF a few months ago, and i swear to god I hope that douch bag cyclist burns.   If my hands weren't tied by the unalterable fetters of the law, then I would invoke the tradition of our illustrious forebears, reach back to a purer, sterner justice, and have you BURNED AT THE STAKE!


Got more than one? I found over thirty thousand a year from motorists, and that's just in the USA.
 
2013-01-13 11:21:40 PM  
Why can't we all get a horse?
 
2013-01-13 11:25:31 PM  
I'd like to feel reasonably likely to get to my destination alive on a bicycle, but the small fraction of incompetent, belligerent morons who drive cars and the small fraction of conceited, belligerent morons on bicycles who make the other morons even less rational where bicyclists are concerned make this unattainable. I kind of wish Fark had a "mark all as idiots" button for anyone who posts in a thread like th... aw crap.
 
2013-01-13 11:30:32 PM  
A couple years ago, a moron on a bicycle decided to make a left hand turn directly in front of my car. No hand signal, no warning, nothing. Just a sudden sharp left turn from the bike lane on the right side of the road. I had to slam on my breaks to avoid hitting her.
 
2013-01-13 11:31:56 PM  

TwowheelinTim: Uchiha_Cycliste: TwowheelinTim: Soymilk: theorellior: doyner: I'm looking forward to rinsing you out of my grill one day.

If a cyclist runs a red light and no motorist's right-of-way is infringed, does a driver still get butthurt?

What if a red light running cyclist mows down and kills a pedestrian?

Tell ya what, do a google search of deaths caused by bicyclists, then do one for deaths caused by motorists. Get back to me with your results. EIP.

there was one in SF a few months ago, and i swear to god I hope that douch bag cyclist burns.   If my hands weren't tied by the unalterable fetters of the law, then I would invoke the tradition of our illustrious forebears, reach back to a purer, sterner justice, and have you BURNED AT THE STAKE!

Got more than one? I found over thirty thousand a year from motorists, and that's just in the USA.


I guess my point is, it's pretty rare for a cyclist to kill somebody else through errant operation. I'm not trying to justify it, but am so tired of motorists villainizing douche bag cyclists when they're just douche bags, and not really hurting anybody in the significant numbers that motorists are. They're just pissing you (and me) off. We're just so used to hearing about motor vehicle related deaths, that we don't even think twice about it. One cyclist kills somebody, and we're all teh evel bikers.

Like I said, let he who is without sin...
 
2013-01-13 11:38:55 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: TwowheelinTim: JohnAnnArbor: So a driver has no right to expect you to behave as a vehicle? So they stop at the 4-way stop, expecting you to stop next. They go (all legal), you blow in front of them, they have to jam on the brakes. You think that's fine?

I'm sure you're not even remotely aware that motorists are much more likely to do this to me than other cyclists. I've had it happen countless times when stopping as we all should.

And I'm sure you NEVER exceed the speed limit (which, by the way, is one of the primary causes in motor vehicle mishaps and deaths).

Yeah, let he who is without sin...

I've been trying my damndest to get a speeding ticket with no luck =(.
My one ticket was 53 in a 35 near my parent's house when I was 16.
Near my house there is a hill where I can regularly hit 53 in a 35 and even sometimes see cops there, but have had no luck.

I want that ticket so badly, I'll frame it, put it on my wall, it'll be awesome.


And yeah, we have some pretty amazing paved downhill runs here too. If you're ever in Northern CA give me a shout and I'll show you some really fun stuff. Be ready for some dirt action though. most of our secondary roads have significant stretches of "improved surface". If you mountain bike, we have some really fun stuff in that realm too. Much of it is unpublicized, and you gotta know a local to get in on the goods.
 
2013-01-14 12:08:43 AM  

cmunic8r99: TanSau: Don't Troll Me Bro!: Watubi: Tip for bicyclists, if you are really hardcore, you buy the heaviest/crappiest bike available and wear normal clothes if you want to get the best workout.

Don't forget about adding copious amounts of rolling friction.
[i.imgur.com image 730x548]

Don't forget your trainer.


Saw that, and in snow (or beach sand), you really need 5-7 PSI.
Best bike I've ever owned.
 
2013-01-14 12:40:53 AM  

al's hat: I doubt it's explicitly legal for a bicyclist to "blow through" a stop sign or traffic signal in your state in any situation.

1. Define pointless stop in relation to legally required stops.
2. At some point (think doing 50 mph downhill) bicycles may not be able to stop quickly and easily.
3. Nonsense. As a motorist, cyclist, and motorcycle rider I'll grant you that sense of smell on a bike or motorcycle is much better.
4. As a pedestrian I don't want to get hit by 200 pounds of bike and rider or a couple of tons of vehicle and drive. People die from getting hit by bicyclists so saying that one case of irresponsibility is less harmful than another doesn't sit well with me.

I don't think I want to share the road with you whether I'm walking, riding a bike, driving a car, or riding my motorcycle. Your attitude sucks and could end up being a fatal shortcoming.


Look up the 'Idaho stop'. Bicycles in Idaho can treat a stop sign as a yield sign if the intersection is clear. So yes, it's explicitly legal here (although 'blow through' might imply a greater rate of speed than was intended, and it's only stop signs). So here, pointless stops (defined as stops at low-speed intersections that are empty of both pedestrians and vehicles) are not legally required, which is awesome.

As far as the 50 mph downhill idiot, you can't look to him to determine law. He was basically illegally street racing a bicycle. Illegal street racers in cars kill people all the time, but we don't use them to argue that all cars are unsafe. I'm sure he was well over the speed limit and could have been hit up for reckless driving and any number of other offenses, so he wasn't riding legally anyway.

You really don't think you can hear better in a bicycle than in a car? There's no engine running, you're moving at half the speed, and you are outside with no metal and glass cage between you and the sound. You hear MUCH better, and if the environment is quiet, you'll always hear a car approaching the intersection before you see it. It helps. A motorcycle doesn't get this advantage because they make so much noise themselves.

As far as the rest goes, cyclists are really no threat to pedestrians as long as they keep their speed reasonable for the situation. At a normal travel speed, 15-20 mph, it is absolutely trivial to avoid pedestrians at intersections. Pedestrian-cycle accidents usually occur in parks and on bike paths where pedestrians and cyclists are forced together in a close environment, which isn't really the situation we are talking about, or with cyclists who are riding at unsafe speed, which I'm not advocating anyway.

As far as my attitude, I think you misunderstand my point here. I'm not saying cyclists should be allowed to do dangerous maneuvers in public, I'm saying that in many cases, not stopping for an empty intersection is safe. Idaho researched it and found it safe enough to make it law, and other states have also considered it. It is frequently endorsed by both cycling advocates and traffic engineers. It really is not dangerous as long as you aren't an idiot about it and don't glide through occupied intersections, which is a completely different thing, or speed wildly, which is also different.
 
2013-01-14 12:50:23 AM  

brantgoose: Americans stand out in terms of consumption--even compared to Luxembourgeois, who are much richer per capita, being an industrious enclave of highly specialized, educated, multilingual and semi-socialist, ultra-capitalist go-getters with no natural resources to speak of in their tiny country, which is a sort of Super-Turbo-Charged Switzerland.


A good friend of mine is from Luxembourg. The way he describes it their higher quality of life is largely due to massive NATO investment/military-indo complex in the area.

We give them lots of money to use their roads if war in Europe breaks out.
 
2013-01-14 12:58:21 AM  

Mitrovarr: al's hat: I doubt it's explicitly legal for a bicyclist to "blow through" a stop sign or traffic signal in your state in any situation.

1. Define pointless stop in relation to legally required stops.
2. At some point (think doing 50 mph downhill) bicycles may not be able to stop quickly and easily.
3. Nonsense. As a motorist, cyclist, and motorcycle rider I'll grant you that sense of smell on a bike or motorcycle is much better.
4. As a pedestrian I don't want to get hit by 200 pounds of bike and rider or a couple of tons of vehicle and drive. People die from getting hit by bicyclists so saying that one case of irresponsibility is less harmful than another doesn't sit well with me.

I don't think I want to share the road with you whether I'm walking, riding a bike, driving a car, or riding my motorcycle. Your attitude sucks and could end up being a fatal shortcoming.

Look up the 'Idaho stop'. Bicycles in Idaho can treat a stop sign as a yield sign if the intersection is clear. So yes, it's explicitly legal here (although 'blow through' might imply a greater rate of speed than was intended, and it's only stop signs). So here, pointless stops (defined as stops at low-speed intersections that are empty of both pedestrians and vehicles) are not legally required, which is awesome.

As far as the 50 mph downhill idiot, you can't look to him to determine law. He was basically illegally street racing a bicycle. Illegal street racers in cars kill people all the time, but we don't use them to argue that all cars are unsafe. I'm sure he was well over the speed limit and could have been hit up for reckless driving and any number of other offenses, so he wasn't riding legally anyway.

You really don't think you can hear better in a bicycle than in a car? There's no engine running, you're moving at half the speed, and you are outside with no metal and glass cage between you and the sound. You hear MUCH better, and if the environment is quiet, you'll always hear a car approachin ...


"You'll always hear the car approaching"...yeah, we can put that on your tombstone. My motorcycle doesn't make much noise at all. That "loud pipes saves lives" is bullshiat. We're talking about irresponsible behavior, like blowing through stop signs and traffic signals so trivially avoiding pedestrians at 15-20 mph isn't the issue. If you trust bicyclists to do that you haven't worked in a city with bike messengers. You sound like your heart is in the right place but you piled together so many absurd generalities that don't compute I had to say something. Any driver, rider, pedestrian, front porch sitter should be aware that way too many morons have the ability to kill you because they don't give a crap.
 
2013-01-14 01:13:17 AM  
al's hat: If you trust bicyclists to do that you haven't worked in a city with bike messengers.

You know, I suspect we're comparing apples and oranges. I am talking mostly about quiet residential neighborhoods where there is very little traffic, the cars are going 20-ish mph, and the pedestrian density is low. I think you may be thinking more about dense urban environments where it may well not be safe for bicycles to treat stop signs as yields, because the next car is never far off, so the intersection isn't ever really empty. That might be the reason it doesn't sound safe to you.
 
2013-01-14 01:26:51 AM  
As a cyclist who obeys every single rule and regulation of the road -- except for usually being stoned, drunk, not so much, in fact, never, really-- I've gotten very little in the way of kicks out of these replies.
 
2013-01-14 01:38:08 AM  

Mitrovarr: al's hat: If you trust bicyclists to do that you haven't worked in a city with bike messengers.

You know, I suspect we're comparing apples and oranges. I am talking mostly about quiet residential neighborhoods where there is very little traffic, the cars are going 20-ish mph, and the pedestrian density is low. I think you may be thinking more about dense urban environments where it may well not be safe for bicycles to treat stop signs as yields, because the next car is never far off, so the intersection isn't ever really empty. That might be the reason it doesn't sound safe to you.


I second this. In a city where it is NEVER safe to do that, I see them constantly blow through side street stop signs into freely running traffic (not four way stop intersections), then hopping the dividing medians. There is seldom if ever actual clearance for them to do this, this behavior works only through their dependence on vehicles slamming on brakes and/or swerving to avoid them.

Avoidance is something they know drivers will do, as up until recently if a driver hit a bicyclist in this jurisdiction they would face long and expensive punitive felony prosecutions regardless of actual fault.
This high profile prosecution of drivers was started to try to reduce fatal bike accidents by making drivers more cautious and aware of bicyclists, but the problem was that it only served to embolden bike riders to be even more irresponsible and ignore both common sense and the law. This actually made the safety problem much, much worse, so the last couple years the cops go out in force and do sweeps to ticket bike riders. This is starting to work for traffic safety somewhat, but the 'persecution complex' these people always seem to have was also fueled mightily. As such, it has also served to further alienate the bike riders who now have an even more hardened and adversarial attitude about everything and everyone else. I dare say they almost constitute a gang at this point.
 
2013-01-14 05:17:05 AM  

mark12A: Viola!


www.clipart.dk.co.uk
 
2013-01-14 07:38:48 AM  
ic.pics.livejournal.com

My commuter bike.  Notice it's not a douchey road bike or anything over the top of fancy.  Nice three speeds to get me there and back and I obey the laws.  On the less traveled/low traffic streets I do run reds if it's one of the corners with big grassy fields that allows me to see a good ways down the road in both directions and I'm certain I can cross safely without doing anything stupid.  I got hit by a car when I had a green and they had a red in late November - totally the cars fault, had to rebuild the rims but the bike is okay otherwise and I was unhurt.

I call it Dork Force One.
 
2013-01-14 08:41:13 AM  
It seems that the cartoonist is heavily influenced by Scott Adams.
 
2013-01-14 09:38:01 AM  

bratchaman: What if drivers of motor vehicles acted the way some cyclists do? Running red lights and stop signs just because "no one else is there"? What if cars just skipped over to the crosswalk or sidewalk to "disguise" themselves as a pedestrian to skirt stop lights?

Why are bikes any different? The answer is they aren't.


As has been pointed out several times (in this thread even!), Cars travel 10 times faster, weigh 10 times more, and are 10 times as big. They physically will not fit on the sidewalk.

Oh, I have seen countless car slide through stop signs and red lights, so....
 
2013-01-14 09:40:30 AM  

Pokey.Clyde: theorellior: I don't ride like a dick. I ride defensively. Cars can kill me just as look at me sideways. But just as drivers break laws for their own convenience every damn day without any repercussions, I'm gonna do the same on my bike.

Kind of contradicting yourself there, aren't you sparky?


Not really. In the "keep left except to pass' threads, speedy drivers love to use 'just keeping up with the flow of traffic' as a reason they drive 80 in a 55. Well, maybe theorellior is just keeping up with the flow of asshole-ness.
 
2013-01-14 10:11:08 AM  

fredklein: Why are bikes any different? The answer is they aren't.

As has been pointed out several times (in this thread even!), Cars travel 10 times faster, weigh 10 times more, and are 10 times as big. They physically will not fit on the sidewalk.


Exaggerate much? ;^)
 
2013-01-14 10:26:44 AM  
New scourge of the earth: People who walk in the street when nice sidewalks have been provided to separate and keep them safe from bicyclists and motorists.

/seriously, this seems to be the latest thing in my neighborhood
//if you are walking at an average pace while wearing spandex and swinging your arms, you may be exercising, but there's no good reason for you to be in the road
///especially when it's dark
////what is the matter with you people!?
 
2013-01-14 10:50:39 AM  

UtileDysfunktion: New scourge of the earth: People who walk in the street when nice sidewalks have been provided to separate and keep them safe from bicyclists and motorists.

/seriously, this seems to be the latest thing in my neighborhood
//if you are walking at an average pace while wearing spandex and swinging your arms, you may be exercising, but there's no good reason for you to be in the road
///especially when it's dark
////what is the matter with you people!?


you see, the sidewalk is cement and is hard.

The road is asphalt and therefor soft and cushy.

So rather then buy a shoe that has more support/padding, they run in the middle of the road.

/wish I was farking kidding
//That's really the reason
 
2013-01-14 11:12:48 AM  

fluffy2097: UtileDysfunktion: New scourge of the earth: People who walk in the street when nice sidewalks have been provided to separate and keep them safe from bicyclists and motorists.

/seriously, this seems to be the latest thing in my neighborhood
//if you are walking at an average pace while wearing spandex and swinging your arms, you may be exercising, but there's no good reason for you to be in the road
///especially when it's dark
////what is the matter with you people!?

you see, the sidewalk is cement and is hard.

The road is asphalt and therefor soft and cushy.

So rather then buy a shoe that has more support/padding, they run in the middle of the road.

/wish I was farking kidding
//That's really the reason


The sidewalks in my neighborhood tilt slightly such that my left foot is lower than my right.  Farks up my stride.  Road is flat.

/ White people problems.
 
2013-01-14 11:36:24 AM  

fluffy2097: you see, the sidewalk is cement and is hard.

The road is asphalt and therefor soft and cushy.

So rather then buy a shoe that has more support/padding, they run in the middle of the road.

/wish I was farking kidding
//That's really the reason


Believe it or not, it makes a real difference. Also all of the stupid ramps and such give you a million opportunities to trip (which is worse at night or at high speeds), and people let their hedges and trees overgrow and sometimes completely obstruct the sidewalk. Also, the sidewalk is often poorly maintained and totally uneven.
 
2013-01-14 12:16:50 PM  

serial_crusher:
The sidewalks in my neighborhood tilt slightly such that my left foot is lower than my right.  Farks up my stride.  Road is flat.

Mitrovarr:
Believe it or not, it makes a real difference. Also all of the stupid ramps and such give you a million opportunities to trip (which is worse at night or at high speeds), and people let their hedges and trees overgrow and sometimes completely obstruct the sidewalk. Also, the sidewalk is often poorly maintained and totally uneven.


These rationalizations don't wash where I live. Sidewalks flat, streets slopes toward curbs. Also, streets are an inch or two of asphalt over concrete. I find it really hard to believe that thin a layer of asphalt had any appreciable amount of resiliency. And... the sidewalks are well maintained and the city goes around every summer and grinds down any un-eveness in the walks caused by tree roots or whatever to prevent trips. Let your trees or shrubs obstruct the walk and you'll get a nasty-gram from the city. Don't fix it and they'll take care of it for you (and probably not in a way you'll be pleased with).

The only logical reason I could think of for runners to be in the street is to avoid dogwalkers and getting tangled up in leashes or having some little, yappy rat chomp on your leg. As for the walkers, well... [shrug] If people want to mix it up with the SUVs and bicyclists, fine. My garden hose reaches to the street so I can rinse it down.
 
2013-01-14 12:24:16 PM  

Hughlander: I just love when I heard from the cyclist in question who was followed by a cop for a bit in a downtown environment. When he was finally pulled over he was given three tickets for running three red lights. $124 per light.


Well, I agree asshole cyclists should be given tickets for deciding they are exempt from traffic laws, I don't think cops should follow you to see how many charges they can rack up. If you commit a traffic infraction, they should pull you over and cite you for it. If they are allowed to keep running up infractions for as long as they like, what's to stop them from following you when you speed for 2 miles and issue you 120 tickets for every second you were speeding?
 
2013-01-14 12:31:38 PM  

UtileDysfunktion: The only logical reason I could think of for runners to be in the street is to avoid dogwalkers and getting tangled up in leashes or having some little, yappy rat chomp on your leg.


That's certainly a valid concern.
There is also fear of not being seen by an inattentive  motorist.  That gets a little less likely when you're on the road as opposed to the sidewalks.  Bonus when inattentive motorist pulls his car into the crosswalk while waiting to turn and you have to figure out if you're going in front of or behind him.
I unno, I only run trails except for the 1.5 miles or so it takes to get from my house to the trails and back.  Those sidewalks aren't as pristine as your neighborhood (also nonexistent in a few spots), so I can only guess about other peoples' motivations.
 
2013-01-14 12:55:19 PM  

cjkpkg: you guys are slipping

That was posted twice yesterday & pulled. Not allowed since people were killed.

 
2013-01-14 01:10:27 PM  

Bigjohn3592: special20: Why must we have to share the road with the uninsured, untaxed, and unlicensed vehicles?

Because we all own the road, douchestick


Uchiha_Cycliste: I never understood this attitude. When this cockwaffle prefer we were driving and in his way increasing traffic? Can he just not stand to see people that aren't as miserable as him, slogging through the daily hate commute? What's the deal? We are out of the way, exercising, enjoying ourselves and essentially one less car on the road. What part of that is bad?


TROLLOLOL

If you break down the syntax of my comment, you might understand that it really could mean automobiles, or horse and carriage type conveyances, too. Maybe we're both douchesticks, but I prefer the term "douchecanoe" if you care to Farkie that. See ya on the road, Ragey dudes.
 
2013-01-14 02:10:47 PM  

Ex-Texan: n mEx-Texan: Out here, I only ride on Really wide shoulders, the downside being sometimes I get a lot of flats.

I stopped getting flats when I ditched the crappy tires and bought some Schwalbe Marathon touring tires... They aren't bulletproof, they could still certainly get punctured, but I went from getting flats regularly to NO flats in about 2000 miles.

 
2013-01-14 02:20:22 PM  

Kaiser442: I stopped getting flats when I ditched the crappy tires and bought some Schwalbe Marathon touring tires... They aren't bulletproof, they could still certainly get punctured, but I went from getting flats regularly to NO flats in about 2000 miles.


Wut!? You telling me $17 Chinese no-name tires aren't as good as Schwalbe Marathons? Who knew? ;^)

/riding on Marathons
 
2013-01-14 02:27:33 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: If a bike weighs 3000 pounds and has 300 horsepower at its disposal, they might have a point. I have this thing called a brain. It allows me to understand my surroundings and plan my movements. I can stop on a dime. My bike weighs 13 pounds. At worst, someone will have a contusion.
/Proud red light runner since like forever
//Cyclists who smoke and wear headphones and text while cycling are the problem. (I've seen that)
///And don't get me started on Rascals and scooters on the bike path


Wish that we're true - my beef with bikes is they ride in the middle of the road during rush hour and or wont move over on busy single lane roads that cars can't go around. And sidewalks can be alternated between roads. Finally losing a lane of traffic for a bike trail when very few cyclists use it. Grrrrrrrr
 
2013-01-14 02:42:26 PM  

bim1154: TV's Vinnie: [msnbcmedia.msn.com image 850x527]
Stare at it and enjoy, Farkers. Stare at it and enjoy.

Thanks, I was just about to post this one as well. One of my favorite cyclists vs cars images.


Be glad you didn't. Even though the photo had no blood or gore in it, it apparently offended some oversensitive cyclist who's a Fark Mod, and he pulled the dildo out of his ass long enough to put a suspension on me.
 
2013-01-14 03:07:11 PM  

TV's Vinnie: bim1154: TV's Vinnie: [msnbcmedia.msn.com image 850x527]
Stare at it and enjoy, Farkers. Stare at it and enjoy.

Thanks, I was just about to post this one as well. One of my favorite cyclists vs cars images.

Be glad you didn't. Even though the photo had no blood or gore in it, it apparently offended some oversensitive cyclist who's a Fark Mod, and he pulled the dildo out of his ass long enough to put a suspension on me.


Hey, good to have you back, Vinnie! Between yesterday and today I think I counted that photo posted 4 or 5 times. Lots of folks got a time-out, I'm guessing.

/got one myself several years ago (different photo)
 
2013-01-14 03:31:22 PM  

Stone Meadow: fredklein: Why are bikes any different? The answer is they aren't.

As has been pointed out several times (in this thread even!), Cars travel 10 times faster, weigh 10 times more, and are 10 times as big. They physically will not fit on the sidewalk.

Exaggerate much? ;^)


Not really.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060913181418AAdPAK1 (All the sites I used were the first found via Google).
How fast is the average bicycle speed?
...
For mountain bikes with standard knobby, the average is 13-15mph.


Cars can easily get to 100mph+. or 7.14 times the bike.

http://www.bikesdirect.com/weights.htm
Nearly all Mountain Bikes and Hybrid Bikes in bike shops weigh 28 to 32 LBS. As a reference point: the lightest production ATB we know, the Motobecane FLY TEAM Ti weighs about 19.5 depending on size {without pedals and reflectors}

Cafe style bikes weigh in the mid 20lbs range.
Classic City Bikes weigh around 28lbs.
Steel framed Fixed/SS bikes weigh around 19-21lbs.


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_does_an_average_car_weigh
Average U.S. Car Is Tipping Scales at 4,000 Pounds

So, the average car weighs 133 times the average Mountain Bike.

http://www.pccsc.net/parkinginfo.php
Bicycle handlebars are 15 - 18 inches wide for road bikes, 20 - 24 inches for mountain bikes and hybrids. Overall bicycle length is about 68 inches. Thus, a minimum bicycle space 2 feet wide and 6 feet long is a minimum specification

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/non_aviation/read.main/21352 0 /
A Ford Taurus, for instance, is 197.6 inches bumper to bumber and 73.0 inches wide.

So, The 'footprint' of a car is 16.4 feet x 7 feet, or 114.8 square feet, the 'footprint' of a bike is 2 x 6, or 12 square feet. The car is 9.5 times the size.

So, in the end, I vastly UNDER-estimated the weight of the car, and slightly over-estimated the speed, and was pretty close to spot-on with the size.
 
2013-01-14 04:21:51 PM  

fredklein: Stone Meadow: fredklein: Why are bikes any different? The answer is they aren't.

As has been pointed out several times (in this thread even!), Cars travel 10 times faster, weigh 10 times more, and are 10 times as big. They physically will not fit on the sidewalk.

Exaggerate much? ;^)

Not really.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060913181418AAdPAK1 (All the sites I used were the first found via Google).
How fast is the average bicycle speed?
...
For mountain bikes with standard knobby, the average is 13-15mph.

Cars can easily get to 100mph+. or 7.14 times the bike.

http://www.bikesdirect.com/weights.htm
Nearly all Mountain Bikes and Hybrid Bikes in bike shops weigh 28 to 32 LBS. As a reference point: the lightest production ATB we know, the Motobecane FLY TEAM Ti weighs about 19.5 depending on size {without pedals and reflectors}

Cafe style bikes weigh in the mid 20lbs range.
Classic City Bikes weigh around 28lbs.
Steel framed Fixed/SS bikes weigh around 19-21lbs.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_does_an_average_car_weigh
Average U.S. Car Is Tipping Scales at 4,000 Pounds

So, the average car weighs 133 times the average Mountain Bike.

http://www.pccsc.net/parkinginfo.php
Bicycle handlebars are 15 - 18 inches wide for road bikes, 20 - 24 inches for mountain bikes and hybrids. Overall bicycle length is about 68 inches. Thus, a minimum bicycle space 2 feet wide and 6 feet long is a minimum specification

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/non_aviation/read.main/21352 0 /
A Ford Taurus, for instance, is 197.6 inches bumper to bumber and 73.0 inches wide.

So, The 'footprint' of a car is 16.4 feet x 7 feet, or 114.8 square feet, the 'footprint' of a bike is 2 x 6, or 12 square feet. The car is 9.5 times the size.

So, in the end, I vastly UNDER-estimated the weight of the car, and slightly over-estimated the speed, and was pretty close to spot-on with the size.


...and if they were ships the car would still have the right of way lol.

/good detective work. You'll make Sergeant for that :)
 
2013-01-14 06:46:52 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: If a bike weighs 3000 pounds and has 300 horsepower at its disposal, they might have a point. I have this thing called a brain. It allows me to understand my surroundings and plan my movements. I can stop on a dime. My bike weighs 13 pounds. At worst, someone will have a contusion.
/Proud red light runner since like forever
//Cyclists who smoke and wear headphones and text while cycling are the problem. (I've seen that)
///And don't get me started on Rascals and scooters on the bike path


In case someone else hasn't already linked these:

Here are two stories about people dying as a result of being hit by cyclists. A red light runner and a case where The pedestrian was confused by "on your left."

I doubt it will change your mind in any way, but there they are. I also hope you consider the fact that someday, you may run through a red and be creamed by a car, forcing the driver to live with the fact that they either severely injured or killed you. And yup, I'm a cyclist, and yup, I stop at red lights, even though it sucks having to re-gain that ,momentum.
 
2013-01-14 09:03:00 PM  

Mitrovarr: al's hat: If you trust bicyclists to do that you haven't worked in a city with bike messengers.

You know, I suspect we're comparing apples and oranges. I am talking mostly about quiet residential neighborhoods where there is very little traffic, the cars are going 20-ish mph, and the pedestrian density is low. I think you may be thinking more about dense urban environments where it may well not be safe for bicycles to treat stop signs as yields, because the next car is never far off, so the intersection isn't ever really empty. That might be the reason it doesn't sound safe to you.


We are probably talking apples and oranges. I'm thinking DC walking to catch my commuter bus home and a bike messenger riding on the wrong side of the street hops the curb onto the sidewalk nearly creaming me and colliding with the pedestrian just in front of me. DC is funny because you can ride your bike on the sidewalk but only outside of the "downtown" area. As I'm helping this guy up off the sidewalk and making sure he's okay I point out to the bike messenger that he wasn't supposed to be on the sidewalk and he becomes douchey saying he's allowed. When I point out he's two blocks inside the area where he shouldn't be on the sidewalk he shuts up, hops on his bike and pedals away obviously not giving a shiat if the pedestrian he rode down is okay or not. This area is mostly businesses, hotels, and the White House although George Washington University is right there too. The bike messengers, students, and some of the cubicle dwellers who commute by bike were all hazards to pedestrians and drivers although in different ways. I saw a worker commuting by bike who chose to try and pass a car dropping someone off in front of a building by going to the right of the car trying to squeeze between the car and curb. He ate car door. Of course, as a pedestrian trying to get to my bus stop, crossing at intersections had its own risks concerning vehicles. On occasion I had to drive into DC and I absolutely hated it...moron drivers, bicyclists, and pedestrians who seem oblivious to the fact that they can kill someone or get killed because they don't want to follow the rules. I'm so glad to be back in country where I don't have to worry about much of anything other than deer. My only beef is that my 1.9 mile commute is just a little too short when I take the motorcycle...
 
2013-01-14 09:42:16 PM  

Amishrabbit: As a daily bicycle commuter and model of good road cycling behavior (yes, I stop and sit there at red lights), nothing annoys me more than Jef-esque douches. Guess what, self-important cyclists of the Entitlement Generation: You're not helping the law-abiding, courteous, and Spandex-free road sharers. Just stay home if you can't behave.


Pretty much this.
 
2013-01-14 10:27:50 PM  

fredklein: Stone Meadow: Exaggerate much? ;^)

Not really. ...

For mountain bikes with standard knobby, the average is 13-15mph. Cars can easily get to 100mph+. or 7.14 times the bike.


Yep, you're still exaggerating....by comparing worst case bike scenario with best case car. Cars can't legally drive anywhere close to 100 mph on any public road in America, and certainly not where they might have to share such road with bikes. I'm 60 years old and average 15 mph on my 10 mile ride to work...sharing that road with cars doing 25-40 mph. So, the disparity is more like 2:1 or 3:1. Nowhere near 10:1.

Anyway, this is the part I was laughing about. Enjoy your ride.
 
2013-01-14 10:46:06 PM  

Stone Meadow: fredklein: Stone Meadow: Exaggerate much? ;^)

Not really. ...

For mountain bikes with standard knobby, the average is 13-15mph. Cars can easily get to 100mph+. or 7.14 times the bike.

Yep, you're still exaggerating....by comparing worst case bike scenario with best case car. Cars can't legally drive anywhere close to 100 mph on any public road in America, and certainly not where they might have to share such road with bikes. I'm 60 years old and average 15 mph on my 10 mile ride to work...sharing that road with cars doing 25-40 mph. So, the disparity is more like 2:1 or 3:1. Nowhere near 10:1.

Anyway, this is the part I was laughing about. Enjoy your ride.


So I was a bit off on ONE of the three figures. I WAY underestimated the weight difference, which should balance out.

/sheesh
 
2013-01-15 09:11:06 AM  

Watubi: Tip for bicyclists, if you are really hardcore, you buy the heaviest/crappiest bike available and wear normal clothes if you want to get the best workout.


I get the bike part... But no, I'm not wearing cotton when it's 90 degrees in Georgia.
 
2013-01-15 09:22:46 AM  
Red light runners like Quantum value their momentum more than the law or life. This seems the opposite of what most velocipede operators are after. Getting going again from a standing start is work, is exercise. Red light runners are pussies that enjoy coasting on momentum or a downhill gravity run. They're freeloaders, avoiding working out and crying when they have to actually use their quadriceps.
 
2013-01-15 09:48:55 AM  

Watubi: Tip for bicyclists, if you are really hardcore, you buy the heaviest/crappiest bike available and wear normal clothes if you want to get the best workout.


I certainly subscribe to the heavy bike part. My occasional riding partner rides a sub-20 pound road bike on skinnies, and complains that my 31 lb MB with knobbies is too slow. He nags me to get a lighter bike with faster tires so it will be "more efficient". I've explained I'm there for the workout, not to "get somewhere".

I ride 10-16 miles to work, though, depending on the route, and jeans or regular pants are very uncomfortable, so I use proper shorts...though I do add bulky outer layers in cool weather.

YMMV
 
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