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2013-01-13 01:25:52 PM
Rik01:
I never thought I'd see the day when people would be moronic enough to drive 1500 lbs of machine at 70 mph on a crowded highway -- not looking at the road because they're texting. Then again, I never expected a car to cost as much as a three bedroom house did in the 60's.

Times are changing and Stupid is becoming the norm.


Yes, I'm sure there were no terrible drivers cruising around with a sandwich in their face or reading the paper or drinking a thermos of coffee or getting road head from Gilda the secretary back in "the day". Let alone rampantly DUI'ing, not wearing seatbelts, speeding etc.

Also cars cost more now because they don't turn you into pizza sauce the minute you have a collision. If he'd crashed a modern car instead of steel tub with wheels, James Dean would still be alive.
 
2013-01-13 01:26:42 PM

offmymeds: If he's so farkin' smart, then what the hell is he doing writing for Fox News?


Telling people what they want to hear so that they pay him?
"Oh, you're frustrated and confused about the modern world? Everything seems topsy-turvy and wrong? It's this group over here who's to blame, see? Now by my book! Fund my "research", and I'll keep you comforted with many beautiful lies."
 
2013-01-13 01:26:59 PM

otto the bull: Let's bring back the dunce hat!


i1136.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-13 01:28:39 PM

Warriors Warriors Warriors: I teach English at a research university. Many of my students snap like a greasy potato chip when you put the slightest bit of pressure on them. It's sad.


I teach English at a community college in Tennessee, and I can say you are correct. A lot of my students cannot take criticism or pressure to meet a deadline. Here is my favorite statement from many "English is subjective. That grade is your opinion." No. . .a comma splice, fragment, run-on, error in agreement, or other sentence fault is not simply my opinion, asshat. Why can't I turn the work in 3 months late--why do you not want me to succeed? Why can't I get extra credit? My teachers in high school gave it. Finally, my all-time favorite, but I earned an "A" in Honors English in high school.
 
2013-01-13 01:28:48 PM

letrole: HairBolus: Almost all religions are based on deluded narcissism.


Atheism is a Religion based upon Deluded Narcissism.


Trolling is a masturbatory exercise based on deluded narcissism.
 
2013-01-13 01:29:31 PM

No Such Agency: Rik01:
I never thought I'd see the day when people would be moronic enough to drive 1500 lbs of machine at 70 mph on a crowded highway -- not looking at the road because they're texting. Then again, I never expected a car to cost as much as a three bedroom house did in the 60's.

Times are changing and Stupid is becoming the norm.

Yes, I'm sure there were no terrible drivers cruising around with a sandwich in their face or reading the paper or drinking a thermos of coffee or getting road head from Gilda the secretary back in "the day". Let alone rampantly DUI'ing, not wearing seatbelts, speeding etc.

Also cars cost more now because they don't turn you into pizza sauce the minute you have a collision. If he'd crashed a modern car instead of steel tub with wheels, James Dean would still be alive.


I was reading this with all seriousness until I got to the bold portion and then promptly blew a booger out of my nose from sudden laughter.
 
2013-01-13 01:32:23 PM
Article from 1930:

Watching these new "motion pictures", our sons and daughters can pretend they are Olympians, great explorers, cowboys or sharpshooters.  And while they leave the theater and remember they are really live in normal houses on side streets and in triple deckers around America, that is after their hearts have raced and heads have swelled with false pride for "being" something they are not.
 
2013-01-13 01:33:23 PM
My opinion is that since the religious organizations are so dysfunctional and full of bs dogma, there does not seem to be a safe place to nurture the spiritual side. The best answer for people who feel emptiness inside is through spiritual participation and growth.
Sadly the most compelling argument in the realm of spirituality is that of atheism, which just makes the hole inside bigger. It will take centuries to fix this in our culture because people need to come to spirituality on their own terms and that is very hard to do.
 
2013-01-13 01:34:45 PM
The younger generation voted for Fartbama, and they are completely ruining the Teabaggers' demographics, so naturally Fox is going to go on a relentless attack on the younger generation.
 
2013-01-13 01:39:30 PM

rev. dave: My opinion is that since the religious organizations are so dysfunctional and full of bs dogma, there does not seem to be a safe place to nurture the spiritual side. The best answer for people who feel emptiness inside is through spiritual participation and growth.
Sadly the most compelling argument in the realm of spirituality is that of atheism, which just makes the hole inside bigger. It will take centuries to fix this in our culture because people need to come to spirituality on their own terms and that is very hard to do.


I'd suggest food if you're feeling empty inside.
 
2013-01-13 01:40:24 PM

Handsome B. Wonderful: It's fun watching these little shiats hit the workforce. They flame out and wonder why they never get promoted. Could it be because you've never produced anything of substance? They jump from job to job every six months because they don't feel appreciated. They don't understand the concept of shutting up and doing their damn job.


To be fair, if you just shut up and work, somebody else will take the credit and you'll get laid off at the end of the project. Things don't work the way they used to. You put in your time, pay your dues, and get shiatcanned in favor of the next guy that isn't expecting anything.
 
2013-01-13 01:40:35 PM
They can choose to show the world only flattering, sexy or funny photographs of themselves (dozens of albums full, by the way)

As long as they're of legal age, of course. No need to get the party van involved.
 
2013-01-13 01:41:00 PM

computerguyUT: They are extremely difficult to work with, don't listen to anything anyone else has to day, completely come apart when they get criticized and ultimately end up pretty dissatisfied with the working world in general...


This describes my 60-year old pain in the rear boss perfectly.
 
2013-01-13 01:42:05 PM
This is a worthy headline.
 
2013-01-13 01:44:13 PM
i274.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-13 01:48:20 PM
I'm in my first year of university now, and I'm a bit older than the majority of my classmates at (almost) 26.

It never ceases to amaze me how bratty many of my fellow students are. They whine and cry about profs having it out for them when they get bad grades that they 'don't deserve' and challenging grades in courses where they clearly don't have a good grasp of the material. I overhead one student talking to our prof after class, in tears, saying "I had a 90% average in high school. I don't deserve grades like this!" Suck it up, buttercup.

I've actually been surprised by the amount of hand-holding there is; worst-quiz-dropped policies, 5%/day late deduction, makeup labs, notes and lectures posted in full online, free tutoring for 'difficult' courses. Yet they still whine about it, as if actually having to work for grades is an offense against their sensitive sensibilities.
 
2013-01-13 01:50:05 PM

Shakespeare's Sister: Warriors Warriors Warriors: I teach English at a research university. Many of my students snap like a greasy potato chip when you put the slightest bit of pressure on them. It's sad.

I teach English at a community college in Tennessee, and I can say you are correct. A lot of my students cannot take criticism or pressure to meet a deadline. Here is my favorite statement from many "English is subjective. That grade is your opinion." No. . .a comma splice, fragment, run-on, error in agreement, or other sentence fault is not simply my opinion, asshat. Why can't I turn the work in 3 months late--why do you not want me to succeed? Why can't I get extra credit? My teachers in high school gave it. Finally, my all-time favorite, but I earned an "A" in Honors English in high school.


I get a lot of this as well.

One thing I've found that works well is what I call "microgoals."
Kind of like video game achievements, these are small goals that have to be reached in a certain time frame.
For example, 'Write a formal memo that achieves the goal of (X) in ten minutes. Begin...NOW.'

It's a good tool for working with short attention spans, because it keeps things active and achievable.
 
2013-01-13 01:52:23 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: As a college age student I can flatly deny any allegations of narcissism.

[global.fncstatic.com image 156x195]
What a happy go lucky,
lovable galoot may look like.

Sadly, as a college age student I am forced to confirm many of the author's claims about the entitled generation. Kids my age are wayyyy pampered, and they literally cannot handle any sort of criticism, no matter how constructive and objective those critiques are.

Makes learning kind of hard when you can't accept corrective input.

I once saw a student my age break down in tears because he had to complete a self-critique form for a group project. He kept saying, "But I didn't make any mistakes!" He was home schooled. Big shock.

/OK, I'm done.
//Going to my happy place.


Thats nothing. A few generations back you criticized someone they pull you in front of a congressional committee as a communist spy or want to drop a nuke on your country.
 
2013-01-13 01:52:46 PM

FTA:


I have been writing a great deal over the past few years about the toxic psychological impact of media and technology on children, adolescents and young adults, particularly as it regards turning them into faux celebrities-the equivalent of lead actors in their own fictionalized life stories.

I'm no psychologist, nor a fox news talking head, but to me the only thing that would reallly be disturbing, and deeply so, was if someone was not the "lead actor intheir own fictionalized life stories".

I mean, it's your life. How sad and completely disturbing would it be if you were only a member of the supporting cast in your own life story?

Considering this is Fox News, I suspect this has something to do with how the GOP rejects critical thinking skills, and how that hinders their intention to dictate what everyone can and cannot do with their life. I mean, if you try to dictate orders and tell everyone what and what not to do, those pesky brats who ask quesitons such as "why?" or "how is that legal" end up giving a headache or two. Look at how the Occupy Wall Street movement made them worry. I mean, if the US population actuallly stops with all the apathy and actually becomes active in politics, trying to defend their own best interests, then they simply can't pass laws that only grant priviledges to their cronies at the expense of the entire population.


And ya know where else the political establishment abused psychology to push a political agenda? The soviet union.  Way to follow on Brejnev's footsteps.
 
2013-01-13 01:53:08 PM
I hate being alive today knowing that this problem is not going to be solved in my lifetime.

What a f)cking waste.
 
2013-01-13 01:56:44 PM

computerguyUT: In all of my kids's sporting events that they participate in, there are no losers any more.. Everyone gets a trophy regardless of how they performed.
Yay, you're the second winner!!

While I understand the thought behind the action, what it teaches them is completely wrong. It does nothing to prepare them for the real world that does not give a crap about how the "feel".

My kids are all grouped decades apart from each other (it's complicated) I have them at 8, 18, and 28 and a few mixed in the middle and I agree with the article completely. I see it at my workplace as well. The entitlement mentality is ingrained deep..
They are extremely difficult to work with, don't listen to anything anyone else has to day, completely come apart when they get criticized and ultimately end up pretty dissatisfied with the working world in general...


Hate to break it to you, but those multiple trophies aren't for the kids. They're to shut the parents up. The parents can't start a fistfight in the parking lot over trophies if they have the same one. Admittedly, they'll then start a fistfight over the referee calling THEIR PRECIOUS BABY out when he CLEARLY WASN'T!!!11!!, but don't bother whining about the trophy thing when it's got jack shiat to do with the kids.

And as for why  your snowflakes and employees seem entitled, maybe it's because you're starting from that mentality and being an asshole. When you hate someone to begin with, don't be surprised when they act on it.

/I have seen families fall apart because one person, usually the dad, decided he disliked whoever was the teen boy. These boys were stupid, but nice, same as any other teen boy. Snippy, yes, and certainly teenagers, but nothing wrong with them. But once their dads started up, you'd never know they were anything but pure assholes, because it's what their fathers taught them to be.
//Some mothers, too. Being an asshole terrified of TEENAGERS isn't limited to gender, apparently.
 
2013-01-13 01:58:49 PM

Katolu: GAT_00: Also, you're biatching about how your children are raising your grandchildren. Logically, the failure was with your generation because you raised these supposedly excessively indulgent parents. The fault is entirely yours.

But I've long since learned that members of the Greediest Generation are unable to accept any blame for their own mistakes.

^this^


Double-goodness proof the author is correct.

Of course, every generation starting with Teh Greatest Generation has fallen into the narcissistic trap of thinking themselves special and entitled. They because they considered what they accomplished in WW2 "exceptional", and the American prosperity that followed to be the God-given reward for their efforts. You have never met arrogant and entitled if you didn't know and interact with TGG in their prime. Then they raised us Boomers with that same "you can do anything" expectation. We raised Gen X to expect even more and better, and so on and so forth.

But fear not. As the world turns and new great countries rise to compete on more even footing with the USA, new generations will relearn the old lessons of hard work and thrift, and things will right themselves. Give it time. This too shall pass.
 
2013-01-13 02:03:01 PM

Stone Meadow: Of course, every generation starting with Teh Greatest Generation has fallen into the narcissistic trap of thinking themselves special and entitled.


It's not every generation starting with them, it's every farking generation. The only difference is that with mass culture it becomes easier to observe the petty parts of people's lives from a distance.
 
2013-01-13 02:03:36 PM
I'd also argue that this is largely due to the incredibly diminished return on investment we've seen compared to our forebears. We grew up under in an America where a Bachelors degree was valuable, where employment was plentiful and stable, where a lot of people could buy their own home at thirty, and the dollar had actual buying power. We kind of feel "entitled" to some of that, but it all was yanked out from under us.
 
2013-01-13 02:05:31 PM

AcneVulgaris: To be fair, if you just shut up and work, somebody else will take the credit and you'll get laid off at the end of the project. Things don't work the way they used to. You put in your time, pay your dues, and get shiatcanned in favor of the next guy that isn't expecting anything. is a flaming narcissist who knows exactly how to groom the people he needs to get ahead.


What I've seen. The world rewards narcissists. And no, "karma" doesn't come to get them. They flourish, and the regular, un-self-centered people get thrown under the bus. Since most of us have already been rewarded for our egocentric behavior, for a couple of generations now, by having a very high standard of living, lots of possessions, and an easy life, why would anyone think it's a bad thing?

And if we ever doubt ourselves, why, we can just indulge ourselves in some retail therapy or think about what miraculous new product we need next, and whew, after we get done with that--who has time to care about what we're doing to other people?  I NEED to be this way to get ahead.
 
2013-01-13 02:06:08 PM
What is it that causes people to completely forget their own youths and how they were treated by the generation prior to their own?
 
2013-01-13 02:06:29 PM
How the hell did he work this nonsense in there?

All the while, these adolescents, teens and young adults are watching a Congress that can't control its manic, euphoric, narcissistic spending, a president that can't see his way through to applauding genuine and extraordinary achievements in business, a society that blames mass killings on guns, not the psychotic people who wield them...

Oh, right, it's Fox News...
 
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2013-01-13 02:07:27 PM
MidnightSkulker : 5%/day late deduction

Believe it or not, that sadly counts as the "suck it up, Princess" compromise in this case. If professors didn't have policies like that, 75% of the class would beg the professor to accept every major project a few weeks late "just this once". And the professors, for their part, do want to reasonably accommodate legitimate lateness; so, turn it in a day late because your car broke down, hey, no biggie. Randomly email that final paper to the professor three weeks late, instant zero.


notes and lectures posted in full online

I don't really have a problem with that one - I remember having a Chinese calc III prof that I couldn't understand a goddamned word she said, it would have helped immensely if I could have read the lecture notes outside class. And on the flip side of that, I've had professors who test word for word from their lectures - Miss writing down one clause as they speed-read the last five minutes of a class running behind schedule, and congrats, you just got a final exam question wrong.


Overall, though, I agree with you completely. I've recently gone back to school after a couple decades out, and it just blows me away when other students (at the graduate level, keep in mind) whine about the length or time allowed for every... single... assignment. Seriously? a two page paper due in a month, and you want to complain about the work-load?
 
2013-01-13 02:08:38 PM

Huggermugger: and they are completely ruining the Teabaggers' demographics,


Wut???
 
2013-01-13 02:11:28 PM
NO, Smitty - we have to blame Mark Zuckergerggerberg schmerg
 
2013-01-13 02:12:18 PM
From what I've seen, nothing has changed:
- those that whine and make excuses end up on the street corner chugging cock for rent money
- those that don't make excuses and work hard end up succeeding
 
2013-01-13 02:15:15 PM

rev. dave: My opinion is that since the religious organizations are so dysfunctional and full of bs dogma, there does not seem to be a safe place to nurture the spiritual side. The best answer for people who feel emptiness inside is through spiritual participation and growth.
Sadly the most compelling argument in the realm of spirituality is that of atheism, which just makes the hole inside bigger. It will take centuries to fix this in our culture because people need to come to spirituality on their own terms and that is very hard to do.


i.imgur.com
/the dude abides in the ether
 
2013-01-13 02:16:33 PM
Just love all the responses from those who clearly see themselves identified in the article. For older folks, the truth does indeed sometimes hurt them, and they realize there's a problem, and then make an effort to change. But for the narcissists in question here, they just deny and attack. Priceless.
 
2013-01-13 02:17:57 PM
"I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise [disrespectful] and impatient of restraint" (Hesiod, 8th century BC).
 
2013-01-13 02:21:42 PM
Send them all to a foreign country to kill people. Problem solved.
 
2013-01-13 02:23:33 PM

logicalman: Just love all the responses from those who clearly see themselves identified in the article. For older folks, the truth does indeed sometimes hurt them, and they realize there's a problem, and then make an effort to change. But for the narcissists in question here, they just deny and attack. Priceless.


Sounds like you making the same old angry person argument that the writer of the article made.

I don't see the point. Just live your life the way you want to and try not to fark with the way others are living theirs.

And stop worrying so much.
 
2013-01-13 02:25:19 PM

PonceAlyosha: Stone Meadow: Of course, every generation starting with Teh Greatest Generation has fallen into the narcissistic trap of thinking themselves special and entitled.

It's not every generation starting with them, it's every farking generation. The only difference is that with mass culture it becomes easier to observe the petty parts of people's lives from a distance.


I agree in principle, though not in degree. TGG was the first entire generation to feel that sense of entitlement. Prior generations felt America was special, of course, but they also had no safety nets nor widespread educational opportunities, and America was an insular, isolationist country, by and large. WW2 thrust America onto center stage, and TGG felt it was only their due. Like I said, though...only a matter of degree.
 
2013-01-13 02:26:07 PM
HairBolus: Almost all religions are based on deluded narcissism.

letrole: Atheism is a Religion based upon Deluded Narcissism.

GhostFish: Trolling is a masturbatory exercise based on deluded narcissism.

Accusations of trolling being a masturbatory exercise is a courtesy reach-around based upon Deluded Narcissism
 
2013-01-13 02:28:45 PM

Mantour: We have been raising narcissitic delusionals for a while now...


i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-13 02:29:13 PM

Huggermugger: The younger generation voted for Fartbama, and they are completely ruining the Teabaggers' demographics, so naturally Fox is going to go on a relentless attack on the younger generation.


I was wondering when the leftist was going to show up for the requisite two minute hate. Thank you for delivering.
 
2013-01-13 02:29:28 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: As a college age student I can flatly deny any allegations of narcissism.

[global.fncstatic.com image 156x195]
What a happy go lucky,
lovable galoot may look like.

Sadly, as a college age student I am forced to confirm many of the author's claims about the entitled generation. Kids my age are wayyyy pampered, and they literally cannot handle any sort of criticism, no matter how constructive and objective those critiques are.

Makes learning kind of hard when you can't accept corrective input.

I once saw a student my age break down in tears because he had to complete a self-critique form for a group project. He kept saying, "But I didn't make any mistakes!" He was home schooled. Big shock.

/OK, I'm done.
//Going to my happy place.


It's not entirely their fault. Liberal grading policies in public school, a deeper reliance of the state to raise kids from lazy parents and bad parently are to blame. When liberals quit keeping score in sports, or grading with red ink, or firing bad teachers we get what we have now.
 
2013-01-13 02:29:42 PM

MidnightSkulker: I've actually been surprised by the amount of hand-holding there is; worst-quiz-dropped policies, 5%/day late deduction, makeup labs, notes and lectures posted in full online, free tutoring for 'difficult' courses. Yet they still whine about it, as if actually having to work for grades is an offense against their sensitive sensibilities.


meh, I havent been in college for .... FFS 30+ years, but there were similar things even back then.
Teacher would drop the lowest quiz, because everyone has bad days. If every test you take is 90+ except for 1, meh, whatever.
Some teachers would use your homework to push a grade up if you were on the edge. The homework could be used to "prove" that you had a good understanding and just missed on the test.
Labs, I always turned mine in late. Deducting for late is not about did the student learn the material, but about rigid authority. Which is the actual point of education???
 
2013-01-13 02:35:51 PM

namatad: Deducting for late is not about did the student learn the material, but about rigid authority. Which is the actual point of education???


It's also about making progress in your learning. Deadlines with penalties help keep things moving along.
You know damn well that if there were no interim deadlines, half the people in a class would be desperately doing the entire semesters work in the last two weeks.
 
2013-01-13 02:40:03 PM

BigNumber12: They can block anyone who disagrees with them


I see he's been on Fark.


Bears repeating.

/why block when you can ignore
//some Farkers just can't stand to get their feelings hurt
 
2013-01-13 02:40:17 PM

dfenstrate: namatad: Deducting for late is not about did the student learn the material, but about rigid authority. Which is the actual point of education???

It's also about making progress in your learning. Deadlines with penalties help keep things moving along.
You know damn well that if there were no interim deadlines, half the people in a class would be desperately doing the entire semesters work in the last two weeks.


oh god yes
I had at least two incomplete classes which stayed that way until I handed in the lab write-ups months later.
Sigh. Nothing has changed, I am still a day late and a dollar short. Ok, I have lots of dollars, so I end up paying late fees instead. LAWL
 
2013-01-13 02:41:11 PM
Wait, what? Generation Duckface is full of deluded narcissists? Gee, you do not say?
 
2013-01-13 02:42:34 PM

Riotboy: /why block when you can ignore


do you mean ignore in the fark ignore button sense or ignore as in the just dont read what they said?

When I ignore trolls (and replies to trolls), I save myself 1000s of hours a year with wasted discourse.
I dont ignore people I disagree with, I just ignore the crazies and the trolls.
 
2013-01-13 02:43:19 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: Kids my age ... they literally cannot handle any sort of criticism, no matter how constructive and objective those critiques are.


That's called being human. It isn't unique to kids your age.
 
2013-01-13 02:45:12 PM
When you raise your children on Ferengi principles, don't be surprised when they start growing lobes.
 
2013-01-13 02:47:04 PM

kevinfra: FTA: All the while, these adolescents, teens and young adults are watching a Congress that can't control its manic, euphoric, narcissistic spending, a president that can't see his way through to applauding genuine and extraordinary achievements in business,

Vulture Kapital?

Golf clap for vulture capitalists.

/Go Mitt. Go away.

 
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