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2013-01-13 12:53:28 PM

IlGreven: pxlboy: Bedstead Polisher: Facebook and Twitter aside, I have a cousin suffering from this. He went to private school, was bred to be "the best" and now suffers from "why do I have to start at the bottom at work? I have great education, why don't these people who've been in the profession 20+ years realize I know more than them?!"

I worked with a kid like that at $LargeCompany who was 22 and it was his first job -- ever. It was obvious that he was a pampered little douche.

So, he leans in to ask me a question (this was tech support) on day one to which I responded, "Hey, aren't *you* the one with the degree?"

Yep, easy to see how he was pampered. In my day we just knew how to do our jobs on day 1...and we didn't need no fancy diplomas to do 'em, either, let alone a degree!


It was a basic Windows question, which is why I was surprised to hear it asked. I didn't like the kid, so that's why I answered the way I did.

I was also young and stupid, too. But, I digress.
 
2013-01-13 12:53:57 PM
Why are there more spoiled brats on campus? Partly because we're getting to the point where only spoiled brats can afford to go to college straight out of high school. Consider that the numbers of working class and poor students going to college has been falling year after year, and that for "diversity" universities have simply starting admitting more spoiled brats from China and India. So perhaps then a partial solution is to get more poor and working class students on campus? That would dilute the spoiled brat pool and gee, might even prime the pump of social mobility in this country.
 
2013-01-13 12:54:04 PM

GAT_00: Also, you're biatching about how your children are raising your grandchildren. Logically, the failure was with your generation because you raised these supposedly excessively indulgent parents. The fault is entirely yours.

But I've long since learned that members of the Greediest Generation are unable to accept any blame for their own mistakes.


BAM, absolutely correct.
 
2013-01-13 12:55:38 PM
As a representative of this generation, born out of the ether into this sort of attitude without the effects of a Boomer-ruled society in a false prosperity bubble, I truly apologize for us choosing to be this way.
 
2013-01-13 12:58:11 PM
Old farts picking on youth - I'm shocked. Come meet my narcissist sociopath 82 yr old mum. Fully convinced she has never been wrong about anything, unable to apologize to anyone regardless of her guilt, will tell you it's her place in life to tell people what they need to hear because someone has to. Children are as you made them, for the most part.

Personality flaws, mental illness and poor parenting is nothing new. Leave the farking kids alone. I had attitude galore in my youth too. Sadly we didn't have hand held gadgets of convenience with computing power that surpassed what landed men on the moon in the 1960's. And back in my day we had to put up with musicians that had talent. Lawn, offs.

Two stupid things: Ugg boots. Honey, you think truly unattractive overpriced boots are complimenting you or telling the world you are fashionable or cute? Silly girl. It says "I'm a sheep unable to think outside social pressure and advertising". #2: Those that have yet to catch on that wearing your blouse sticking out the bottom of your sweater is a good look. Holy Christ sister, buy a farking mirror. Better yet, just pull yer head out yer arse and buy yourself some common sense instead of Ugg boots.

PS: love you kids, you make me happy with your chocolatey goodness. wish i was young again, i loved to fu(k.
 
2013-01-13 12:59:21 PM
Can we just get a "KIDS THESE DAYS" tag or something? The discussion of how incorrigible and discouraging the current generation of youth is isn't original. Hasn't been for about 6,000 years.

Besides, everyone knows Gen X is the best. W00t.
 
2013-01-13 12:59:43 PM
Dunning-Kruger Effect.
That is all.
 
2013-01-13 01:01:14 PM

Bedstead Polisher: Facebook and Twitter aside, I have a cousin suffering from this. He went to private school, was bred to be "the best" and now suffers from "why do I have to start at the bottom at work? I have great education, why don't these people who've been in the profession 20+ years realize I know more than them?!"


That sounds like me from 7 years ago.

I am improving, though criticism still cuts like a knife. Doesn't help that I've grown up in a family where even minor criticism is serious butthurt. Doesn't help that in my present job, one of my bosses is a bully who laughs derisively when I come up with an idea that's not great.

/too bad I have a history of contract jobs that were short term over the last five years, because I'm having trouble finding another job that isn't quite ass. I only took those jobs out of desperation for work, since the economy was smashed!
 
2013-01-13 01:01:56 PM

jayhawk88: [i.imgur.com image 499x370]


I did not read that as "Clint". Thought Marvel was finally getting "edgy" for real.
 
2013-01-13 01:02:15 PM

Buttle not Tuttle: Dr. Keith Ablow is a psychiatrist and member of the Fox News Medical A-Team.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Ow, my sides.

*tear*


is he murdoch?
 
2013-01-13 01:02:21 PM
Oh, way to go Mr. Article Writer Guy, use Pogo and don't even attribute.

I'm 32...We're kinda "in-between" two different generations.

Yeah, I feel sorry for myself, I feel even suicidal at times. (not really), I have a decent work ethic, got out of freelance art degree shiat and got into supporting nano-tech., but every farking time I get that way I eventually realize I'm being a farking pussy and people have it a lot worse than me. At least I can eat chicken nuggets. At least I can see my son whenever I want. At least I have this stupid framed degree on the wall. At least I can post creepy pictures online in hopes of luring in a vagina. At least I have a bathroom.

This article is annoying and I am the oldest of those that the author speaks of.

I can't wait until "yelling at cloud" is replaced by "yelling at facebook"

still trying to get the login to my friendster account.
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-13 01:04:31 PM
I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of my awesome
 
2013-01-13 01:04:45 PM
Let's look at some of the traits of a narcissist:

An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
Difficulty with empathy
Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults
Detesting those who do not admire them (narcissistic abuse)
Using other people without considering the cost of doing so
Pretending to be more important than they really are
Bragging (subtly but persistently) and exaggerating their achievements
Claiming to be an "expert" at many things
Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people
Denial of remorse and gratitude


These traits describe most Americans and America as a whole since Manifest Destiny.
 
2013-01-13 01:05:06 PM
"i'm old and I hate everything"
 
2013-01-13 01:08:46 PM

MadSkillz: Doesn't help that in my present job, one of my bosses is a bully who laughs derisively when I come up with an idea that's not great.


There are two ways of looking at this. Sure, it doesn't do any good to "participation trophy" every idea that they know won't work out. But at the same time, it's poor management to create a corporate culture where people are too afraid to come forward with ideas - that's a great way to end up stifling innovation, lagging the competition, and going out of business.
 
2013-01-13 01:09:25 PM
Almost all religions are based on deluded narcissism. The delusions are

1. God exists
2. People are so important that God gives a shiat about them
3. People are so important that when they worship God it makes him feel good.
 
2013-01-13 01:09:57 PM
Using computer games, our sons and daughters can pretend they are Olympians, Formula 1 drivers, rock stars or sharpshooters. And while they can turn off their Wii and Xbox machines and remember they are really in dens and playrooms on side streets and in triple deckers around America, that is after their hearts have raced and heads have swelled with false pride for "being" something they are not.

My god, what a douche. Heaven forbid that people enjoy an escapist simulation once in a while. I'm sure these vapid simpletons of Not-The-Greatest-Generation totally confuse playing CoD with being an actual war hero, or game racing with actually driving a car at 200 mph.

What a douche.
 
2013-01-13 01:11:07 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Shocking to hear such an assessment in a world where the most popular website is rife with "status updates" (replete with "LIKES") like "Taking a shiat! When did I eat corn?" and "In line at the supermarket. stoopid n00bs at sefl-checkout can suck it!" and "Your to stupid to undersand the truth about (name issue here)."


And Lord knows, only people under 30 are on it!

/the next generation is ALWAYS the one that will bring ruin and wrack to the myriad of spectacular accomplishments that the previous one achieved...
 
2013-01-13 01:11:22 PM

dennysgod: Let's look at some of the traits of a narcissist:

An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
Difficulty with empathy
Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults
Detesting those who do not admire them (narcissistic abuse)
Using other people without considering the cost of doing so
Pretending to be more important than they really are
Bragging (subtly but persistently) and exaggerating their achievements
Claiming to be an "expert" at many things
Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people
Denial of remorse and gratitude


These traits describe most Americans and America as a whole since Manifest Destiny.


But...but...we're AMERKA!
Link
 
2013-01-13 01:11:39 PM
It's fun watching these little shiats hit the workforce. They flame out and wonder why they never get promoted. Could it be because you've never produced anything of substance? They jump from job to job every six months because they don't feel appreciated. They don't understand the concept of shutting up and doing their damn job.
 
2013-01-13 01:12:02 PM
Probably already posted, but....

Example A ... Fark.com
 
2013-01-13 01:12:06 PM
It's a good thing I can read a fox article and just take it at literal value.  I almost had a snarky comment on generalizations and quoting no real statistics, but they satisfied my need to hear what I wanted.
 
2013-01-13 01:12:36 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: I blame dubstep.


I don't think Fox News knows what dubstep is yet.
 
2013-01-13 01:13:40 PM
The Lake Woebegone Generation: they're all above average.
 
2013-01-13 01:14:38 PM

pxlboy: computerguyUT: In all of my kids's sporting events that they participate in, there are no losers any more.. Everyone gets a trophy regardless of how they performed.
Yay, you're the second winner!!

While I understand the thought behind the action, what it teaches them is completely wrong. It does nothing to prepare them for the real world that does not give a crap about how the "feel".

My kids are all grouped decades apart from each other (it's complicated) I have them at 8, 18, and 28 and a few mixed in the middle and I agree with the article completely. I see it at my workplace as well. The entitlement mentality is ingrained deep..
They are extremely difficult to work with, don't listen to anything anyone else has to day, completely come apart when they get criticized and ultimately end up pretty dissatisfied with the working world in general...

I am old enough to remember getting a participation trophy, but not knowing why. It confused, rather than made me feel better. Our little league team sucked. Why couldn't we just get a snow cone and call it a day?


We all got participation trophies, but we didn't give a fark about them. When we lost, we knew we lost, even if we had a trophy. If they didn't keep score, we were keeping score on the field/court ourselves.

The "everyone gets a trophy" mentality doesn't spoil kids. It spoils PARENTS who can't bear to see their kids not get a trophy.

Blame the parents.
 
2013-01-13 01:15:34 PM
What's up with those frickin kids? Amirite?
 
2013-01-13 01:15:43 PM
Agreed 100% with the writer.

I noticed changes back when morons decided that a simple spanking of your child was basically a felony. (Please note: a spanking is NOT a beating.)

20 years later, I got to see the 'no spank' generation enter the work place, along with the 'No Child Left Behind' group, the 'Children's Rights' cluster and the 'everybody wins' crowd.

Shortly after, our economy tanked, business practices changed for the worst, interest rates soared past those set by the Federal Government as racketeering and a whole new group of predatory companies opened up, taking advantage of the poor. It stunned me when, at the beginning of the housing boom, people lined up to buy places which were obviously hyper inflated in price.

I was around when we churned out more lawyers than physicians, because it's easier to make a bundle of cash in less time with less effort by twisting the law. I watched the loyal, long term Company Employee suddenly become expendable. Idiots now could access the stock market from home and these Paper Tigers crashed it at least once by depending on technology they didn't understand.

I also watched the devaluation of human life and our educational system become f**ked up nearly beyond belief.

I never thought I'd see the day when people would be moronic enough to drive 1500 lbs of machine at 70 mph on a crowded highway -- not looking at the road because they're texting. Then again, I never expected a car to cost as much as a three bedroom house did in the 60's.

Times are changing and Stupid is becoming the norm.
 
2013-01-13 01:16:16 PM

offmymeds: He certainly didn't miss his opportunity to take potshots at the present administration:

All the while, these adolescents, teens and young adults are watching a Congress that can't control its manic, euphoric, narcissistic spending, a president that can't see his way through to applauding genuine and extraordinary achievements in business, a society that blames mass killings on guns, not the psychotic people who wield them, and-here no surprise-a stock market that keeps rising and falling like a roller coaster as bubbles inflate and then, inevitably, burst.


Well obviously he knows better than the president about what real success is. He got an article complaining about 'kids these days' published on foxnews.com.
 
2013-01-13 01:16:16 PM

Handsome B. Wonderful: It's fun watching these little shiats hit the workforce. They flame out and wonder why they never get promoted. Could it be because you've never produced anything of substance? They jump from job to job every six months because they don't feel appreciated. They don't understand the concept of shutting up and doing their damn job.


That strategy makes sense when there's reason to believe you will be rewarded for hard work and dedication. That's not really the case these days. Not as much as it used to be. So for some of these kids, finding the shiat job that you can stand the most is the optimal path.
 
2013-01-13 01:16:22 PM

computerguyUT: My kids are all grouped decades apart from each other (it's complicated) I have them at 8, 18, and 28 and a few mixed in the middle and I agree with the article completely. I see it at my workplace as well. The entitlement mentality is ingrained deep..
They are extremely difficult to work with, don't listen to anything anyone else has to day, completely come apart when they get criticized and ultimately end up pretty dissatisfied with the working world in general...


I used to feel a little worried about job security, looking at the sheer size of the next few generations, but witnessing their attitude, work ethic, and total lack of leadership ability for a few years--well, us GenX'ers have nothing to worry about from them. We need to focus our efforts on finally displacing those old crufty Boomers who still don't know how to use E-mail and won't retire gracefully.
 
2013-01-13 01:16:33 PM
www.cynicaltimes.org

We have been raising narcissitic delusionals for a while now...
 
2013-01-13 01:16:34 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: [global.fncstatic.com image 156x195]
What a happy go lucky,
lovable galoot may look like.


www.nndb.com
"Who loves ya, baby?"
 
2013-01-13 01:17:20 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: And their music! It's just noise!


This made me laugh. Twice.
 
2013-01-13 01:17:24 PM

Millennium: "A" generation of deluded narcissists? We're on at least our third in a row, and it's only getting more effective.

/in one of those generations
//not claiming to have gotten out unscathed


Boomers ---- Gen-X-------- Gen-Y/Snowflakes

/ sadly, can't say I disagree
// I blame "The Greatest Generation", they farked up and started this trend...
/// Gen-X here...
 
2013-01-13 01:17:35 PM

HairBolus: Almost all religions are based on deluded narcissism. The delusions are

1. God exists
2. People are so important that God gives a shiat about them
3. People are so important that when they worship God it makes him feel good.

4. All other religions are false. Kill all the non-believers. (sure, they hide that one NOW ....)
 
2013-01-13 01:17:39 PM

Rich Cream: What's up with those frickin kids? Amirite?


They're all hopped up on the goofball dope.
 
2013-01-13 01:18:04 PM

MadSkillz: Bedstead Polisher: Facebook and Twitter aside, I have a cousin suffering from this. He went to private school, was bred to be "the best" and now suffers from "why do I have to start at the bottom at work? I have great education, why don't these people who've been in the profession 20+ years realize I know more than them?!"

That sounds like me from 7 years ago.

I am improving, though criticism still cuts like a knife. Doesn't help that I've grown up in a family where even minor criticism is serious butthurt. Doesn't help that in my present job, one of my bosses is a bully who laughs derisively when I come up with an idea that's not great.

/too bad I have a history of contract jobs that were short term over the last five years, because I'm having trouble finding another job that isn't quite ass. I only took those jobs out of desperation for work, since the economy was smashed!


How does the same boss react when you come up with an idea that's good, workable and can be positively identified as an improvement over the previous method or process?

I parent largely as I was parented, a fair dose of sarcasm when dopiness is offered as genius, but I'm equally happy to ladle praise when the insight is worthy. And yes, as the old dad of an old dad, I generally do have the answers. If I don't, I am happy to say "I dunno, it's outside of my experience. Let's try it and see".

Although born after most of the boomers and prior to the Gen-Xers (meaning I've been following a fat demographic wad of goddamn hippies turned greedy, right-wing farktards my entire working life), my parents were older than most. Dad was a teenaged sailor in WWII and ran off to sea because dragging corpses out of bombed-out buildings was harshing his youth. Mum was a WWII army brat. They had known war, minor diseases that would kill children in two days, hunger, cold and limited opportunities.

I, generally, did not. But through the magic of extrapolation, and being told "we will feed and clothe you economically and give you toys at Christmas and birthdays and give you a small allowance for stuff done above and beyond what we expect of you to do because you live here", I got small jobs quite early and was generally able to buy and do things I wanted because I always had the ability to shell out for it.

I realize kids don't have paper routes any more, and it's been years since they've been allowed to knock on strangers' doors to ask for lawn mowing or shovelling jobs (because all strangers are lustful pedos with rape racks next to the ping pong table, right?), but I do insist my kid, who is 11, pry himself off the couch long enough to do some work, and I do not buy him much stuff beyond the occasional book. So if he was "Kirby and the Cathar Heresy", he has to buy it out of his savings.

It's an uphill battle, however. The seeds of lazy entitlement sprout on even stony ground. I just told him to make his own lunch. He would have preferred I do it. Of course.
 
2013-01-13 01:18:37 PM

GAT_00: Also, you're biatching about how your children are raising your grandchildren. Logically, the failure was with your generation because you raised these supposedly excessively indulgent parents. The fault is entirely yours.

But I've long since learned that members of the Greediest Generation are unable to accept any blame for their own mistakes.


^this^
 
2013-01-13 01:18:55 PM

BigNumber12: They can block anyone who disagrees with them


I see he's been on Fark.


You can't just block or ignore someone. For full effect, you have to let them know you've done it:

"Welcome to my ignore list!"
"This thread should cause me to bulk up my ignore list!"

The shock that Joe Nobody or Sally J Dumfark has actually blocked them from an anonymous internet site will surely cause them much shame and force them to reexamine their lives.
 
2013-01-13 01:20:33 PM

No Such Agency: Using computer games, our sons and daughters can pretend they are Olympians, Formula 1 drivers, rock stars or sharpshooters. And while they can turn off their Wii and Xbox machines and remember they are really in dens and playrooms on side streets and in triple deckers around America, that is after their hearts have raced and heads have swelled with false pride for "being" something they are not.

My god, what a douche. Heaven forbid that people enjoy an escapist simulation once in a while. I'm sure these vapid simpletons of Not-The-Greatest-Generation totally confuse playing CoD with being an actual war hero, or game racing with actually driving a car at 200 mph.

What a douche.


This. What are movies and plays if not escapes? Sounds like an old fart trying to justify his irrational distaste with the younger generation.
 
2013-01-13 01:20:49 PM
Britta: You are a textbook narcissist.
Jeff: I'm an exceptional narcissist.
 
2013-01-13 01:20:54 PM
Let's bring back the dunce hat!
 
2013-01-13 01:20:56 PM

hobberwickey: offmymeds: He certainly didn't miss his opportunity to take potshots at the present administration:

All the while, these adolescents, teens and young adults are watching a Congress that can't control its manic, euphoric, narcissistic spending, a president that can't see his way through to applauding genuine and extraordinary achievements in business, a society that blames mass killings on guns, not the psychotic people who wield them, and-here no surprise-a stock market that keeps rising and falling like a roller coaster as bubbles inflate and then, inevitably, burst.

Well obviously he knows better than the president about what real success is. He got an article complaining about 'kids these days' published on foxnews.com.


If he's so farkin' smart, then what the hell is he doing writing for Fox News?
 
2013-01-13 01:21:45 PM
This thread again?

Iheard all the same crap as a 70s teenager. It's good to see my generation working so hard to feel good about themselves by carrying out the time-honored tradition of trashing the newest generation.
 
2013-01-13 01:21:52 PM
Avalokiteshvara, the Bodhisattva of Compassion, meditating deeply on Perfection of Wisdom, saw clearly that the five aspects of human existence are empty, and so released himself from suffering. Answering the monk Sariputra, he said this:

Body is nothing more than emptiness,
emptiness is nothing more than body.
The body is exactly empty,
and emptiness is exactly body.
The other four aspects of human existence --
feeling, thought, will, and consciousness --
are likewise nothing more than emptiness,
and emptiness nothing more than they.

All things are empty:
Nothing is born, nothing dies,
nothing is pure, nothing is stained,
nothing increases and nothing decreases.

So, in emptiness, there is no body,
no feeling, no thought,
no will, no consciousness.
There are no eyes, no ears,
no nose, no tongue,
no body, no mind.
There is no seeing, no hearing,
no smelling, no tasting,
no touching, no imagining.
There is nothing seen, nor heard,
nor smelled, nor tasted,
nor touched, nor imagined.

There is no ignorance,
and no end to ignorance.
There is no old age and death,
and no end to old age and death.
There is no suffering, no cause of suffering,
no end to suffering, no path to follow.
There is no attainment of wisdom,
and no wisdom to attain.

The Bodhisattvas rely on the Perfection of Wisdom,
and so with no delusions,
they feel no fear,
and have Nirvana here and now.

All the Buddhas,
past, present, and future,
rely on the Perfection of Wisdom,
and live in full enlightenment.

The Perfection of Wisdom is the greatest mantra.
It is the clearest mantra,
the highest mantra,
the mantra that removes all suffering.

This is truth that cannot be doubted.
Say it so:

Gaté,
gaté,
paragaté,
parasamgaté.
Bodhi!
Svaha!
 
2013-01-13 01:22:29 PM
HairBolus: Almost all religions are based on deluded narcissism.


Atheism is a Religion based upon Deluded Narcissism.
 
2013-01-13 01:23:11 PM
Why are you all giving your opinions? You must think people want to see them.

/your so vain, you think this thread is about you, don't you
 
pla
2013-01-13 01:24:14 PM
GriffXX : These kids are watching their Twitter feed for pictures of boobs, not watching Congress debate spending.

Actually, although I agree with the "same argument every generation ever has made about today's youth", your last point there I would call a real problem, not just fashion.

No one seems interested in holding the government accountable for its complete failure to do its damned job - Not to legislate morality, but to keep the goddamned lights on in both the metaphorical and literal senses. And no, not a partisan issue - Tweedledee needs to stop spending what he doesn't have; and Tweedledum needs to write the checks for what he has already bought.
 
2013-01-13 01:24:27 PM

MadSkillz: Bedstead Polisher: Facebook and Twitter aside, I have a cousin suffering from this. He went to private school, was bred to be "the best" and now suffers from "why do I have to start at the bottom at work? I have great education, why don't these people who've been in the profession 20+ years realize I know more than them?!"

That sounds like me from 7 years ago.

I am improving, though criticism still cuts like a knife. Doesn't help that I've grown up in a family where even minor criticism is serious butthurt. Doesn't help that in my present job, one of my bosses is a bully who laughs derisively when I come up with an idea that's not great.

/too bad I have a history of contract jobs that were short term over the last five years, because I'm having trouble finding another job that isn't quite ass. I only took those jobs out of desperation for work, since the economy was smashed!


His father also puts a lot of emphasis on status. He recently left a job he hated at a large company ("ooh, you work there? *status points*") to a much smaller place where he'll get more of the experience he wants. I think it's good for him.

And good luck finding a job with a better boss. It makes all the difference. Sometimes you don't know what you didn't have until you have a boss that encourages your ideas and trusts you.
 
2013-01-13 01:25:52 PM
Using computer gamesour imaginations, our sons and daughters can my generation liked to pretend they were Olympians, Formula 1 drivers, rock stars or sharpshooters.

What is the significant difference between kids playing computer games "pretending" to be something their not, and when I was a kid: making a "sword" out of anything handy and pretending to be a "gladiator," or perhaps grabbing an old wood shovel handle and making like you were Bob Seagren doing the pole vault, or finding a cowboy hat and kerchief and playing "cowboys and indians"?

Come on, role playing as a form of play has been around forever.

But then again, this is Keith Ablow we're talking about and the guy is a complete and utter joke and rarely if ever has anything worthwhile to say.
 
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