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(Des Moines Register)   "Do rural areas still matter?" asks Iowa newspaper. Well, we still need our corn, soybean, cows, chickens, and other farm staples, so yes   (desmoinesregister.com) divider line 189
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2013-01-13 10:39:21 AM
I may get hate on this, but Fark Iowa. You and your early primaries are the reason we still have these stupid ethanol subsidies.
 
2013-01-13 10:44:17 AM
Hey, when the world gets nuked, it's the people who live outside the major cities that will still be alive.
/well, until the fallout hits the rest of us
 
2013-01-13 10:44:42 AM
In all seriousness, are family farms really still a thing?  Hasn't argo-business basically taken over providing the food supply for the nation?   Speaking as someone who left the country as fast as his feet would carry him the second he turned 18, and who sees what his home town has transformed into, the "heartland" needs a triple valve by-pass.
 
2013-01-13 10:46:35 AM

ajgeek: Hey, when the world gets nuked, it's the people who live outside the major cities that will still be alive.
/well, until the fallout hits the rest of us


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2013-01-13 11:03:34 AM

Ennuipoet: In all seriousness, are family farms really still a thing?  Hasn't argo-business basically taken over providing the food supply for the nation?   Speaking as someone who left the country as fast as his feet would carry him the second he turned 18, and who sees what his home town has transformed into, the "heartland" needs a triple valve by-pass.


I live in fairly large city in Kansas and know a few people at work who still have the family farm, and occasionally work during harvest. One gal, her dad runs it as his job, while the rest of the family work in Wichita. He does everything. Cattle, wheat, and apparently his most profitable venture is organic turkeys. Their house is not far outside of town, and is very beautiful. I'm amazed they are very profitable, as I hear most farmers are not. Makes me wonder just exactly those small town farmers are doing.
 
2013-01-13 11:13:05 AM

cheap_thoughts: I live in fairly large city in Kansas and know a few people at work who still have the family farm, and occasionally work during harvest. One gal, her dad runs it as his job, while the rest of the family work in Wichita. He does everything. Cattle, wheat, and apparently his most profitable venture is organic turkeys. Their house is not far outside of town, and is very beautiful. I'm amazed they are very profitable, as I hear most farmers are not. Makes me wonder just exactly those small town farmers are doing.


I live in the country in Ohio and family farms are in the majority. Some do it better than others. One of my friends went out on his own in the past year or so, splitting off some of his family acreage... . He's pretty good at it but he's got a degree in mechanical engineering too.

But someone "deciding" to become a farmer is difficult.
 
2013-01-13 11:35:13 AM
But in a few years we'll all 3D print our food and clothes. Rural areas are for Luddites, unless they're on Mars, in which case they are the greatest thing ever.
 
2013-01-13 11:36:38 AM
There is a family farm across the street from my house so I'm getting a kick...
 
2013-01-13 11:39:27 AM
I'm pretty sure I can get those things from the supermarket, and so can the vast majority of Americans. So, no. Rural areas don't matter anymore.
 
2013-01-13 11:41:26 AM
AverageAmericanGuy: Exactly. We'll just quantum teleport our food from Elon Musk's food mines on Mars once he gets 80000 people a month to move there. Because, technology!
 
2013-01-13 11:41:28 AM

Ennuipoet: In all seriousness, are family farms really still a thing?  Hasn't argo-business basically taken over providing the food supply for the nation?   Speaking as someone who left the country as fast as his feet would carry him the second he turned 18, and who sees what his home town has transformed into, the "heartland" needs a triple valve by-pass.



I imagine they're becoming more rare, but yeah there are still some legit family farms.

My brother has had corn and beans on our acres since the early-mid 90's.
 
2013-01-13 11:43:36 AM
Gee ya know, last I looked, the whole point of government was to manage laws that govern people. So ya think it would be a good idea to kick-start the selection process in an area where there are lots of people?
 
2013-01-13 11:46:05 AM
is living in a small town that doesn't have farms considered rural. its still possible to live in the pocono mountains of pennsylvania and commute to nyc. there must be other parts of the country people commute 2 1/2+ hours each way to live in the country.
 
2013-01-13 11:46:44 AM
Constitutional F*ck Up #1: Land gets 2 votes, people get 1.
 
2013-01-13 11:47:23 AM
And, of course, we need the vast porn fields of midwest to feed our hungry libidos.
 
2013-01-13 11:47:28 AM
I thought they lived in the suburbs?
 
2013-01-13 11:47:59 AM
I live in a rural area, so it's OK fine by me if you all want to move to the city.
But when the shiat hits the fan, where will the city folks go? Out to the country where the food is. There aren't too many farms in the cities.
 
2013-01-13 11:48:08 AM
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Goddam it so much.
 
2013-01-13 11:48:08 AM
Rural areas will always matter. But the structure of the US government and our elections vastly overvalue the boondocks. Urban areas per capita are dramatically more productive yet are legislated against and derided as unAmerican by both major political parties.
 
2013-01-13 11:48:39 AM
Newsflash: Small towns that grow up into big towns are no longer small towns.
 
2013-01-13 11:48:49 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I'm pretty sure I can get those things from the supermarket, and so can the vast majority of Americans. So, no. Rural areas don't matter anymore.


Also if you buy your meat there, no animals are harmed.
 
2013-01-13 11:50:22 AM
Aw, are the small town social conservatives who hijacked the GOP feeling left out? Tough shiat.
 
2013-01-13 11:50:32 AM
Another big city lib trying to denigrate the rural aka conservative areas. They'll weep then die if when the food stops going into the cities. Try to take our guns and we'll starve you farkers out.
 
2013-01-13 11:52:15 AM
I don't understand why farmers are held in such esteem, merely because they inherited land. Surely the idea that you have some sort of "Right to Farm" (if your father was a farmer) runs counter to the idea of equality, opportunity, and independence.

Family farms are, at best, break-even enterprises. Instead of propping them up with subsidies, they should go broke *naturally*, so that the land and resources they use inefficiently can be consolidated into corporate farms of more profitable scale.
 
2013-01-13 11:52:54 AM

Smeggy Smurf: Another big city lib trying to denigrate the rural aka conservative areas. They'll weep then die if when the food stops going into the cities. Try to take our guns and we'll starve you farkers out.


And you wonder why us civilized folk don't like you.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2013-01-13 11:53:56 AM
Article was not trolltastic enough. They should have mentioned "HSUS" and watched farmers work themselves into a rabid delusional frenzy.
 
2013-01-13 11:54:28 AM

TofuTheAlmighty: Urban areas per capita are dramatically more productive yet are legislated against and derided as unAmerican by both major political parties.


For some odd values of 'productive'.
Moving paper from one side of the desk to the other doesn't produce much, except a 0.3% price increase each time.
 
2013-01-13 11:54:46 AM
Can't think of a single practical reason to live in a rural area. Some are very beautiful and peaceful, but beauty and peace don't put food on the table.

There are few with an abundance of office jobs. I wouldn't even look rural unless by some miracle I found one with good (and multiple) employment opportunities. Where I live now, if things go sour with my job, there are employers everywhere--I can walk across the street with resume in hand. Who wants to live in a one-horse town and risk that horse going away? I could live in a rural area and commute 2 hours a day to the city to work. But who'd want that kind of life? With gas getting more and more expensive, the country will not be able to afford being as spread out as it is.

Then there's the culture. Who wants to live where "fine dining" means Applebee's and shopping for something nice means going to Target instead of Walmart this time?

Then there's your neighbors' backwards political beliefs, which I won't even get in to since we're not in the Politics tab.

Then there's the schools teaching your kids about Jesus riding dinosaurs and great floods instead of geology and biology.

I could go on and on, but to summarize, for a variety of reasons I'm going to continue to live in densely populated areas thankyouverymuch.
 
2013-01-13 11:57:04 AM

Smeggy Smurf: Another big city lib trying to denigrate the rural aka conservative areas. They'll weep then die if when the food stops going into the cities. Try to take our guns and we'll starve you farkers out.


What, whatever, tough guy. Pay your own way in taxes and then we'll pretend that you're an adult, ya farkin' welfare queen.
 
2013-01-13 11:57:05 AM
With each state, regardless of population, getting two United States Senators couldn't it be argued that rural areas somehow manager to matter MORE?
 
2013-01-13 11:57:42 AM
"somehow manager" -- rural kids stole my English books.
 
2013-01-13 11:58:16 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: With each state, regardless of population, getting two United States Senators couldn't it be argued that rural areas somehow manager to matter MORE?


They certainly complain the most.
 
2013-01-13 11:58:25 AM
Large farms produce the majority of foodstuffs in this country. Large farms who sell exclusively to large processors. The result is that a lot of your food has more miles on it than a space shuttle by the time it hits your plate. Small farmers and small processors (the kind that do a couple hundred chickens a day instead of 40,000 or a few hundred hogs a week instead of 10,000/day) can produce a better product with a lot smaller environmental impact but it is doubtful that they can produce the massive amounts of, say, bacon that Americans have grown accustomed to.consuming. There is a significant movement to locally sourced, "farm to fork" products but here in Michigan we've already started to see the backlash from the industro-ag folks in the form of regulations and laws.

Lots more small farmers would mean lots more vibrant small towns.
 
2013-01-13 12:00:02 PM

stiletto_the_wise: I could go on and on, but to summarize, for a variety of reasons I'm going to continue to live in densely populated areas thankyouverymuch.


Noise, crowding, traffic, costs, etc, etc, etc.
Differing opinions. How the fark does THAT work?

Can't think of a single practical reason to live in a rural area. Some are very beautiful and peaceful, but beauty and peace don't put food on the table.

And your food comes from where, exactly?
 
2013-01-13 12:00:37 PM
Cows and chickens being "staples" is debatable, but yes, it takes massive acreage to convert solar energy into food, so we'll never survive with a 100% urbanized planet.
 
2013-01-13 12:00:55 PM

letrole: inefficiently can be consolidated into corporate farms


Hell, the only thing corporate farms do efficiently is get pork from Washington. We need to let all those farmers, big and small, go bankrupt and import our food from someplace with a cost of living that can support illiterates that want to dig in the mud all day.
 
2013-01-13 12:01:41 PM
Politics and global business aside, losing our ability to be somewhat self-sustaining would be a very very bad thing. More so for a country that has a lot of people and losing it's grip on world dominance.

I grew up on a farm of sorts and I hate to think what it would be like 50 years down the road with the focus on urbanization and technology. You can't even get Americans to work in the fields anymore.
 
2013-01-13 12:02:51 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: With each state, regardless of population, getting two United States Senators couldn't it be argued that rural areas somehow manager to matter MORE?


And that is why the House is population proportionate.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2013-01-13 12:04:13 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: With each state, regardless of population, getting two United States Senators couldn't it be argued that rural areas somehow manager to matter MORE?


Yes and no. In truly hick states like North Dakota and Wyoming, most of the voters are rural, so farm interests are over-represented in the Senate there. But in other states with lots of farming, like Missouri, Minnesota, Illinois, and Ohio, the majority of the votes are still in the cities, and that's where Senate candidates campaign the most.
 
2013-01-13 12:06:46 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: But in a few years we'll all 3D print our food and clothes. Rural areas are for Luddites, unless they're on Mars, in which case they are the greatest thing ever.


You're turning into linux_yes or letrole
 
2013-01-13 12:07:14 PM
I expected stupidity on this thread from some of the urban Farkers...And i was not disappointed in it's volume or quality.
 
2013-01-13 12:07:23 PM
Uh, no.

Despite the fact that nation's population has been growing, the number of farmers since 1900 has dropped by 63% while the size of farms has grown by 67% because technology has increased productivity, yields, speeds at which foods can be transported, and length of time it can be stored. Simply put, we can do more with less.

Further, Wal-Mart is pretty much single handily keeping the local farm industry alive because it's trying to see if it can save money in gas by having stores only purchase groceries from within the state the the store is located. If they determine there is no real savings, the mom and pop farmers because completely irrelevant.
 
2013-01-13 12:08:21 PM
People are farming more in deserted urban areas and more people are moving to rural areas in order to get away from crappy cities.
 
2013-01-13 12:08:28 PM

dburr13: I expected stupidity on this thread from some of the urban Farkers...And i was not disappointed in it's volume or quality.


Oh go hump your sister.

;-p
 
2013-01-13 12:10:13 PM

stiletto_the_wise: Can't think of a single practical reason to live in a rural area. Some are very beautiful and peaceful, but beauty and peace don't put food on the table.

There are few with an abundance of office jobs. I wouldn't even look rural unless by some miracle I found one with good (and multiple) employment opportunities. Where I live now, if things go sour with my job, there are employers everywhere--I can walk across the street with resume in hand. Who wants to live in a one-horse town and risk that horse going away? I could live in a rural area and commute 2 hours a day to the city to work. But who'd want that kind of life? With gas getting more and more expensive, the country will not be able to afford being as spread out as it is.

Then there's the culture. Who wants to live where "fine dining" means Applebee's and shopping for something nice means going to Target instead of Walmart this time?

Then there's your neighbors' backwards political beliefs, which I won't even get in to since we're not in the Politics tab.

Then there's the schools teaching your kids about Jesus riding dinosaurs and great floods instead of geology and biology.

I could go on and on, but to summarize, for a variety of reasons I'm going to continue to live in densely populated areas thankyouverymuch.


It's cute that you actually think this.
 
2013-01-13 12:10:39 PM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: And your food comes from where, exactly?


I was reliably informed not too long ago by a recent college graduate that farmers are no longer needed. We have plenty of grocery stores.

Yes, she was serious.
 
2013-01-13 12:12:18 PM
When the wind is right, if you can smell livestock poop, then you are in a rural area.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-13 12:13:35 PM
We need somewhere to keep the rednecks.  We don't want to live with them do we?
 
2013-01-13 12:14:59 PM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: Can't think of a single practical reason to live in a rural area. Some are very beautiful and peaceful, but beauty and peace don't put food on the table.

And your food comes from where, exactly?


From some rural area, where someone ELSE works on the SuperUltraMegaAgraBusiness farm. I don't want to farm and have no qualifications to work for an agriculture business.
 
2013-01-13 12:15:45 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Another big city lib trying to denigrate the rural aka conservative areas. They'll weep then die if when the food stops going into the cities. Try to take our guns and we'll starve you farkers out.


The left thinks that, once it has your guns, they can just send the cops and/or army out to force the farmers to grow food at gunpoint, or failing that, kill the farmers and replace them.

No matter how many times the result turns out to be farm production dropping to 0.1% of its original output, and consequently the inability of even the largest farms to feed anyone but themselves and maybe a couple neighbors, the left still insists that this time, THIS TIME, it will work and create a perfect workers' paradise, instead of famine. Because it just HAS to work, in order for communism/socialism/social justice to work.

/happened in the Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, Red China, Best Korea, Vietnam, everywhere it's been tried
//but it won't happen this time, pinky swear
 
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