Tali: I say it every time one of these threads comes up... but kudos to the Times for being the one paper with the stones to stand up to the Co$. Someday if the feds DO manage to bust Scientology and the whole thing crumbles, I hope the Times goes down in history for being the one media outlet that was actually reporting the abuses from the beginning in spite of the threats they've endured for it.
duffblue: Who cares about Scientology? of all the stupid things to hitch a war wagon to, what made people picked a lame duck target for their ire?
Turbo Cojones: How is this different from what the Jehovah's Witnesses did at their HQ in Bethel (and now at Walkill, NY)? Forced servitude for the duration of their commitment or you get shunned by your family for failing the "privilege", A $34 per month "salary" in exchange for 80 hour work weeks that include 50-60 in the plant or farm and an additional 60 hours per month service obligation to maintain Pioneer status, frequent room searches, controlled I-Net access, frequent verbal abuse from the "bosses".All cults are the same; a bunch of functional sociopaths manage to find each other for their personal gain and amusement.
Lionel Mandrake: duffblue: Who cares about Scientology? of all the stupid things to hitch a war wagon to, what made people picked a lame duck target for their ire?So don't come into threads about Scientology.Problem solved!You don't even need to share your feelings about it.
Confabulat: Living here in St. Pete as long as I have and with a bent for this stuff I've met Times reporters who have been crazy harassed for reporting on this stuff. I think it's sort of personal at this point cause the Times is sure hell-bent on ruining the "church" now, and good for them, they are one of the few good newspapers left.
orbister: FTFA: He could come and go from the church's International Base with a freedom other workers didn't enjoy.W. T. F.?/should that last period be there?
Tali: Confabulat: Living here in St. Pete as long as I have and with a bent for this stuff I've met Times reporters who have been crazy harassed for reporting on this stuff. I think it's sort of personal at this point cause the Times is sure hell-bent on ruining the "church" now, and good for them, they are one of the few good newspapers left.I believe it. Those people are absolutely, unrepentantly evil, and they genuinely believe they have such a stranglehold on the world - or at least our local Bay area - that they're going to get away with it forever.Hubby once worked for a small software company in Clearwater that turned out to be owned by Scientologists. Funny how they suddenly 'didn't need a tech support/webmaster anymore, the sales team can handle it' (the 'sales team' was one sixty-odd-year-old woman who couldn't check email without referring to hardcopy instructions) and he got 'laid off' a week after refusing to bring home a bunch of church books for the family and refusing to bring me to some kind of meeting after work one day to explain why the whole family needed to read and observe what was in the books.
Turbo Cojones: All cults religions are the same; a bunch of functional sociopaths manage to find each other for their personal gain and amusement.
gaslight: For those of you who missed it, see The Master. Amazingly, it didn't get an Oscar nod.
willfullyobscure: whstevs. religious people are stupid sheeple. no laws broken-- they are getting what they signed up for
Ral: I don't understand how it is legal, regardless of religious freedom, to hold people captive and to violate state and Federal labor laws. Because that's basically what we're talking about here.
Uranus Is Huge!: I can pay you thousands of dollars for bad sci-fi and get punched in the face when my free labor isn't up to your standards?Sign me up!
Confabulat: One of the oddest things I've noticed about Scientologists over the years is how many of them smoke. It's like 1972 with those guys.
loonatic112358: Uranus Is Huge!: I can pay you thousands of dollars for bad sci-fi and get punched in the face when my free labor isn't up to your standards?Sign me up!Just send your money and address to me, and i'll comb the internet for the worst sci fi fanfics i can deliver to you, deal
Uranus Is Huge!: Sadly, your offer lacks any mention of forced labor or face punches.
Bomb Mecca: can be used against any organized religion
Mugato: There is no way Scientology is a religion. It's more like a self-help scam that also believes in aliens. Here comes the snarkiness about how all religions are goofy but only the reason they scammed the gov't was to be tax-free. They don't worship anything except maybe Cruise, they do no charity work. Scientology isn't a religion by almost any metric.
ajgeek: And I thought the Mormons were bad...
namatad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_controversies#L._Ron_Hubbar d_ and_starting_a_religion_for_money
Mugato: namatad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_controversies#L._Ron_Hubbar d_ and_starting_a_religion_for_moneyI understand he called it a religion for the tax break. I could call Jennifer Lawence my girlfriend but that doesn't make it so.
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