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2013-01-13 08:55:22 AM  
The suckage has come full circle.
 
2013-01-13 09:03:30 AM  
As a Steelers fan, I'm OK with this.

This is why the Browns are dealing with neverending suck: bad management. Haslam was supposed to change things, I thought. Instead he's bringing in Norv and chasing his predecessor's castoffs? Meet the new boss, same as the old. I despise the Browns, the city of Cleveland, and their fans, yet this can even make me a little empathetic. Sorry, Browns fans. I'd say you deserve better, but this is Cleveland we're talking about.
 
2013-01-13 09:28:36 AM  
The factory of sadness continues to endure.
 
2013-01-13 09:32:33 AM  
The ONLY, and I do mean ONLY positive I can take from the news of bringing Anderson in is that he wants a guy who already knows the offense, verbage and secondary reads in camp to explain it to one of the younger QB's. Since his offense is about stretching the field I'd guess that QB would be Weeden but who knows....

Not sure but I might be happier watching 45 yard interceptions thrown on 3rd and 7 instead of 3 yard out routes which are completed but have zero chance of actually getting a first down.
 
2013-01-13 09:35:30 AM  
No one thinks DA is a starter anymore. Including C.H.U.D and DA himself.

As a backup he might be an upgrade to colt only because of his familiarity with the offense.
 
2013-01-13 09:37:57 AM  
Well, the way that article written, there is one source - Derek Anderson's agent.
 
2013-01-13 09:39:34 AM  
Time to spend their #1 pick on a QB, again.
 
2013-01-13 09:43:34 AM  
I hate being a Browns fan.
 
2013-01-13 09:56:57 AM  
I know at times I wasn't great.

At times.
 
2013-01-13 09:59:58 AM  
As a long-suffering Browns fan who's stuck with them through-and-through, this would seriously be the last straw.

/Derek Farking Anderson?
//the question would be who to throw my allegiance to
 
2013-01-13 10:02:53 AM  
Bernie Kosar? Yeah... I guess he would be better than anything they've had recently.

/aisle seat... Mr. Kosar's having a rough time these days but he was first former, decent QB I could remember.
 
2013-01-13 10:15:47 AM  
That's fine! And at least they knew they'd be getting a QB who takes this shiat REAL serious.
 
2013-01-13 10:16:14 AM  
And this was why I didn't want Whisenhunt. Hooboy.

Then again, Cleveland media ain't the brightest bulbs on the Terminal Tower, so we'll see.
 
2013-01-13 10:17:14 AM  

DontBeSoDigital: I hate being a Browns fan.


I'm so sorry. As a Mariners and former Sonics fan, I can empathize.
 
2013-01-13 10:19:26 AM  

SnarfVader: DontBeSoDigital: I hate being a Browns fan.

I'm so sorry. As a Mariners and former Sonics fan, I can empathize.


Well, at least you can now have some basketball back in your town. Ya'll deserve it, even if it is the corpse of the Sacramento Kings. Basketball has been non-existent in Cleveland since LBJ left.
 
2013-01-13 10:37:22 AM  

DontBeSoDigital: SnarfVader: DontBeSoDigital: I hate being a Browns fan.

I'm so sorry. As a Mariners and former Sonics fan, I can empathize.

Well, at least you can now have some basketball back in your town. Ya'll deserve it, even if it is the corpse of the Sacramento Kings. Basketball has been non-existent in Cleveland since LBJ left.


What LBJ did made me root against the Heat, though I had to root for them last year because fark Oklahoma City. Sorry.

But the M's? A record 116 wins and bounced by the Yankees in 2001. Bounced by Cleveland in 1995 (arguably their best roster). The best players always end up at the Yankees. Always trading away future prospects in the minors for a couple of magic beans. Play in a 4 team division but have no shot at finishing first. Yeah, I don't even think the Indians could suck as bad. But I love em. Damn if I know why. I bet you feel the same with the Browns.
 
2013-01-13 10:39:43 AM  
Hey whatever happened to Kelly Holcomb?
 
2013-01-13 10:45:11 AM  
They're the Browniest.
 
2013-01-13 10:57:00 AM  

SnarfVader: DontBeSoDigital: SnarfVader: DontBeSoDigital: I hate being a Browns fan.

I'm so sorry. As a Mariners and former Sonics fan, I can empathize.

Well, at least you can now have some basketball back in your town. Ya'll deserve it, even if it is the corpse of the Sacramento Kings. Basketball has been non-existent in Cleveland since LBJ left.

What LBJ did made me root against the Heat, though I had to root for them last year because fark Oklahoma City. Sorry.

But the M's? A record 116 wins and bounced by the Yankees in 2001. Bounced by Cleveland in 1995 (arguably their best roster). The best players always end up at the Yankees. Always trading away future prospects in the minors for a couple of magic beans. Play in a 4 team division but have no shot at finishing first. Yeah, I don't even think the Indians could suck as bad. But I love em. Damn if I know why. I bet you feel the same with the Browns.


Pretty much. Browns are a completely inept organization, and have been since '99. So far, I haven't really been that impressed with the new ownership team. As they say, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

I live in Atlanta though. So I at least get to see some real winning football. I think that's what kills me though - the Falcons were able to turn it around pretty quickly, Browns are just too inept to make that happen.
 
2013-01-13 11:07:11 AM  
As a long-suffering Browns fan who's stuck with them through-and-through, this would seriously be the last straw.

Don't worry Mike Lombardi will fix everything.

/L.A. Browns
/Take take name. Take the colors. Get the hell out.
 
2013-01-13 11:08:52 AM  
projectshanks.com
/ oblig
 
2013-01-13 11:09:51 AM  

Fizpez: The ONLY, and I do mean ONLY positive I can take from the news of bringing Anderson in is that he wants a guy who already knows the offense, verbage and secondary reads in camp to explain it to one of the younger QB's. Since his offense is about stretching the field I'd guess that QB would be Weeden but who knows....


Every single week he puts his freaking heart and soul into this and studies his ass off, so you have a point.
 
2013-01-13 11:14:18 AM  

DontBeSoDigital: SnarfVader: DontBeSoDigital: SnarfVader: DontBeSoDigital: I hate being a Browns fan.

I'm so sorry. As a Mariners and former Sonics fan, I can empathize.

Well, at least you can now have some basketball back in your town. Ya'll deserve it, even if it is the corpse of the Sacramento Kings. Basketball has been non-existent in Cleveland since LBJ left.

What LBJ did made me root against the Heat, though I had to root for them last year because fark Oklahoma City. Sorry.

But the M's? A record 116 wins and bounced by the Yankees in 2001. Bounced by Cleveland in 1995 (arguably their best roster). The best players always end up at the Yankees. Always trading away future prospects in the minors for a couple of magic beans. Play in a 4 team division but have no shot at finishing first. Yeah, I don't even think the Indians could suck as bad. But I love em. Damn if I know why. I bet you feel the same with the Browns.

Pretty much. Browns are a completely inept organization, and have been since '99. So far, I haven't really been that impressed with the new ownership team. As they say, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

I live in Atlanta though. So I at least get to see some real winning football. I think that's what kills me though - the Falcons were able to turn it around pretty quickly, Browns are just too inept to make that happen.


People say that like somehow you get a bag of magic beans that grow into players and coaches from the league office and they only give the Browns beans from the "inept" barrel. Randy Lerner was a joke of an owner - he did not care one bit about football. About the only positive thing you can say is he at least was willing to try and pay someone to make the team better, even if he had no idea what kind of person that should be. So we've had like 3GM's and 5 coaches since he inherited the team.

Since the new owner fired just about everyone associated with the previous management there's really nothing left of the old "inept" group. It's like seeing a sign for a new restaurant and claiming "Well that place will have to suck because the last restaurant in that building sucked." I'm not saying they're going to be instant playoff contenders but there is at least the possibility that the new owner/GM/coach will be better.
 
2013-01-13 11:15:08 AM  

thisiszombocom: [projectshanks.com image 471x720]
/ oblig


List needs updated. Thadieus Lewis must be added.
 
2013-01-13 11:16:55 AM  

Fizpez: instead of 3 yard out routes which are completed but have zero chance of actually getting a first down.


...I keep hearing this. Hell, I've heard this about each "failed coach" and/or "failed QB" for the Browns. I have yet to actually see it. Hell, yesterday I think I saw more short passes on 3rd down in both games combined than I've seen in all Browns starters combined. And y'know what? Half of those short throws actually converted the third down, because the receivers actually made an effort to get to the marker.

On the other hand, I've seen plenty of times where Browns' QBs forced a ball into double or triple coverage for the sake of making it to the sticks, which resulted in costly interceptions or otherwise truly had zero chance of getting a first down, even when they were beyond the sticks. I'd rather take dink-and-dunk than chuck-and-pick any day.

/Of course, if their running backs could get more than 2 yards on first and second down, they would not have to worry about converting 3rd and 7, and whether a 3-yard route was designed well enough to get the first down.
 
2013-01-13 11:28:17 AM  

IlGreven: Fizpez: instead of 3 yard out routes which are completed but have zero chance of actually getting a first down.

...I keep hearing this. Hell, I've heard this about each "failed coach" and/or "failed QB" for the Browns. I have yet to actually see it. Hell, yesterday I think I saw more short passes on 3rd down in both games combined than I've seen in all Browns starters combined. And y'know what? Half of those short throws actually converted the third down, because the receivers actually made an effort to get to the marker.

On the other hand, I've seen plenty of times where Browns' QBs forced a ball into double or triple coverage for the sake of making it to the sticks, which resulted in costly interceptions or otherwise truly had zero chance of getting a first down, even when they were beyond the sticks. I'd rather take dink-and-dunk than chuck-and-pick any day.

/Of course, if their running backs could get more than 2 yards on first and second down, they would not have to worry about converting 3rd and 7, and whether a 3-yard route was designed well enough to get the first down.


I will admit that last year was worse than this year - whether by design or lack of coaching the receivers were generally running parallel to the line of scrimmage when the ball was thrown (or were so close to the sideline that turning upfield was not an option). The year I did notice the short dump off was more often to a guy who at least had some chance of making the last two yards on his own. Watching the Browns offense in 2011 was truly painful.

I'd also agree that forcing a throw on first or second down is a terrible choice - I was specifically mentioning their tendency to throw to receivers, on third down, who were not in any position to be able to make the first down (short of the sticks, wearing a linebacker like a coat and probably headed out of bounds). I've got no problem *specifically on third down^ with chucking up a deep prayer and having it picked off instead of completing a two yard out to the sideline. Punting on 4th and 5 vs 4th and 7 makes no difference so you might as well go for it.
 
2013-01-13 11:43:18 AM  

Fizpez: DontBeSoDigital: SnarfVader: DontBeSoDigital: SnarfVader: DontBeSoDigital: I hate being a Browns fan.

I'm so sorry. As a Mariners and former Sonics fan, I can empathize.

Well, at least you can now have some basketball back in your town. Ya'll deserve it, even if it is the corpse of the Sacramento Kings. Basketball has been non-existent in Cleveland since LBJ left.

What LBJ did made me root against the Heat, though I had to root for them last year because fark Oklahoma City. Sorry.

But the M's? A record 116 wins and bounced by the Yankees in 2001. Bounced by Cleveland in 1995 (arguably their best roster). The best players always end up at the Yankees. Always trading away future prospects in the minors for a couple of magic beans. Play in a 4 team division but have no shot at finishing first. Yeah, I don't even think the Indians could suck as bad. But I love em. Damn if I know why. I bet you feel the same with the Browns.

Pretty much. Browns are a completely inept organization, and have been since '99. So far, I haven't really been that impressed with the new ownership team. As they say, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

I live in Atlanta though. So I at least get to see some real winning football. I think that's what kills me though - the Falcons were able to turn it around pretty quickly, Browns are just too inept to make that happen.

People say that like somehow you get a bag of magic beans that grow into players and coaches from the league office and they only give the Browns beans from the "inept" barrel. Randy Lerner was a joke of an owner - he did not care one bit about football. About the only positive thing you can say is he at least was willing to try and pay someone to make the team better, even if he had no idea what kind of person that should be. So we've had like 3GM's and 5 coaches since he inherited the team.

Since the new owner fired just about everyone associated with the previous management there's really nothing left of the old "inept" group. It's like seeing a sign for a new restaurant and claiming "Well that place will have to suck because the last restaurant in that building sucked." I'm not saying they're going to be instant playoff contenders but there is at least the possibility that the new owner/GM/coach will be better.


You say that with the optimism of, well, a Browns fan in the off season. Just accept that that city is cursed when it comes to pro sports and live with it.
 
2013-01-13 11:46:43 AM  

DontBeSoDigital: thisiszombocom: [projectshanks.com image 471x720]
/ oblig

List needs updated. Thadieus Lewis must be added.


I think it was CE that had a pick but the shirt was updated to add Lewis. I just don't think there are easy to find pics online.
 
2013-01-13 11:49:53 AM  

iron_city_ap: You say that with the optimism of, well, a Browns fan in the off season. Just accept that that city is cursed when it comes to pro sports and live with it.


We snort HUGE fluffy white lines of HopeDustTM every year around here and that's the way we likes it!
 
2013-01-13 12:19:28 PM  
This is why the FAIL tag was invented.
 
2013-01-13 12:21:32 PM  

Fizpez: I'd also agree that forcing a throw on first or second down is a terrible choice - I was specifically mentioning their tendency to throw to receivers, on third down, who were not in any position to be able to make the first down (short of the sticks, wearing a linebacker like a coat and probably headed out of bounds). I've got no problem *specifically on third down^ with chucking up a deep prayer and having it picked off instead of completing a two yard out to the sideline. Punting on 4th and 5 vs 4th and 7 makes no difference so you might as well go for it.


But I'm not talking about chucking a deep prayer. I'm talking about forcing it into double or triple coverage at the first down marker on 3rd and whatever, with no chance of completing the pass to your own receiver. That, to me, happens far more often than the 3 yard dink on 3rd and 7. And again, I saw more instances of it yesterday than I saw of the Browns all season, and half of the ones i saw yesterday were converted despite that.

iron_city_ap: You say that with the optimism of, well, a Browns fan in the off season.


...and yet another dumbass calling Browns fans crazy for wanting mediocrity.
 
2013-01-13 12:37:54 PM  

IlGreven: Fizpez: I'd also agree that forcing a throw on first or second down is a terrible choice - I was specifically mentioning their tendency to throw to receivers, on third down, who were not in any position to be able to make the first down (short of the sticks, wearing a linebacker like a coat and probably headed out of bounds). I've got no problem *specifically on third down^ with chucking up a deep prayer and having it picked off instead of completing a two yard out to the sideline. Punting on 4th and 5 vs 4th and 7 makes no difference so you might as well go for it.

But I'm not talking about chucking a deep prayer. I'm talking about forcing it into double or triple coverage at the first down marker on 3rd and whatever, with no chance of completing the pass to your own receiver. That, to me, happens far more often than the 3 yard dink on 3rd and 7. And again, I saw more instances of it yesterday than I saw of the Browns all season, and half of the ones i saw yesterday were converted despite that.

iron_city_ap: You say that with the optimism of, well, a Browns fan in the off season.

...and yet another dumbass calling Browns fans crazy for wanting mediocrity.


So, let me guess... THIS is the year it turns around, right ? The previous 30 'THIS is the year it turns around' were just practice. Wanting mediocracy and demanding/expecting success aren't the same. So, go ahead and buy another jersey and march down to the stadium and buy as many $15 beers and $8 hot dogs and cheer till you lose your voice.

Don't get me wrong, I really wish the Steelers/Browns rivalry would be what it once was, but thats also the reason I'm so relentless about today. Its just that fierce of a rivalry. Hell, even my 7 year old niece (who lives outside of Cleveland and has no clue what a 1st down even is) talks shiat to me.
 
2013-01-13 01:32:57 PM  
shiat, for a moment I thought the Browns had signed Zombie Otto Graham.
 
2013-01-13 02:37:07 PM  
Who gives a shiat who the Browns have as a backup QB?

It's not like they're the Jets!
 
2013-01-13 02:42:33 PM  

Prey4reign: shiat, for a moment I thought the Browns had signed Zombie Otto Graham.


The corpse of Marion Motley would be an upgrade to the receiving corp.
 
2013-01-13 05:44:44 PM  

iron_city_ap: So, let me guess... THIS is the year it turns around, right ? The previous 30 'THIS is the year it turns around' were just practice. Wanting mediocracy and demanding/expecting success aren't the same. So, go ahead and buy another jersey and march down to the stadium and buy as many $15 beers and $8 hot dogs and cheer till you lose your voice.


Y'know what not going out and supporting the team even when they lose gets you? That's right, the Los Angeles Browns.
 
2013-01-13 06:37:20 PM  
On a more.. Nonserious note.. When did Newsnet5 get their own tag.. I know Mark Johnson is a bit.. Different.. But didn't know it warranted giving them their own tag..
 
2013-01-13 10:24:28 PM  
There's a reason that "Taking the Browns to the Super Bowl" is a euphemism for a healthy shiat.

/I'm 56 years old and I've been Browns fan for 68 years.
 
2013-01-13 10:51:57 PM  
I'd put him above McCoy,.... barely. But if the coaches think he can contribute to their style, i'm willing to wait and see.
 
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