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2013-01-13 10:09:41 AM  
the Citadel plans to make money via tourism, and this:

Additionally, we plan on forming our own bank that will issue Citadel coins in silver and gold.

so, money laundering.
 
2013-01-13 10:09:44 AM  
So, they're planning on taking American currency for 30 years? Hmmmm...kind of seems like they believe in the system or they would want to take it out in gold. Interesting.
 
2013-01-13 10:11:55 AM  
III Arms is also unique in the world of firearms companies in that all profits generated are donated to the Citadel to help build our community.

so, its socialism then?
 
2013-01-13 10:13:06 AM  

jayhawk88: You know what's hilarious? I have a gun-nut cousin who has been extremely vocal on Facebook the past couple years about gun rights. Re-posting all the usual, terrible infographics and "fact pictures", linking to every story of local violence he can find and pointing out how it could have been avoided (spoiler alert: guns)...I think there may have even been a few WND links sprinkled here and there.

The other day I suddenly realized I hadn't seen much from him lately, and wondered if I had hidden one too many of his links and Facebook was just black-holing his stuff to me. I get to looking and notice that his profile has been scrubbed of nearly everything, his name has changed slightly, and I'm no longer his friend. Clearly he's deleted his Facebook account and created another one.

Turns out his job at a public university ran out of grant funding for his position and he's looking for a job.


Obama saw his facebook page and realized what a real American patriot he was. Obama had him fired. Obama is also blocking him from getting another job. Why would Obama do this? Because after awhile your friend is going to get hungry and he'll be forced to shoot up a middle school for lunch money. This is what Obama wants. He wants us all unemployed, starving, and shooting school children for lunch money. It's a fact.
 
2013-01-13 10:13:31 AM  

Nuclear Monk: BitwiseShift: I particularly like the arbitration clause at the end wherein the victim signs away all constitutional rights to a gang, err panel.

And surprised they didn't buy the Branch Davidian compound near Crawford.

'Panel' is somewhat of a misnomer. The Panel is a bicameral organization consisting of a single person upper chamber (called the Master), and a single person lower chamber (called the Blaster).


Pretty sure Tina Turner won't be allowed to run the place though. Too blah.
 
2013-01-13 10:19:28 AM  
 
2013-01-13 10:19:49 AM  
Planned community? HOA meetings with guns? Brilliant!
 
2013-01-13 10:21:19 AM  

Uranus Is Huge!: Is there room for me?

[www.blackmeninamerica.com image 237x300]


I had an acquaintance in LA, a black guy who moved to Idaho. I think his wife's family had property or something there.

He didn't like it very much and they were back within a year.
 
2013-01-13 10:22:32 AM  
iiicitadel.com

Farmer's market but no farms, firearms museum but no shooting range or hunting ground, and they seem to be preparing for an invasion by Vikings rather than building any sort of actually useful defensive structures... This seems ill-conceived.

Also, when did the rifle become the icon of American liberty? Surely the flag, or the bald eagle, or SOMETHING ranks higher than the rifle in terms of national symbolism. If not, we're really farked.
 
2013-01-13 10:24:59 AM  
come on down to the citadel if you're too dumb to know that the very ones you look up to own your dumb ass.
 
2013-01-13 10:25:29 AM  
The towers in Spain. The Moslem castles were square, the Christian castles were round Is this a coded jihadist community hiding behind jingoist banter?

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2013-01-13 10:25:50 AM  
HAHAHA the walls on their fort design are out of date for repelling even an 1812 artillery attack. This is why history degrees are important, people.
 
2013-01-13 10:26:25 AM  
Looks like 14th century architecture for 10th century minds.
 
2013-01-13 10:26:31 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Uranus Is Huge!: Signs you might be an extremist:

1) You are considering a move to a compound in Idaho.

2) ...

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too funny. home boy doesn't even know who his real enemies are.
 
2013-01-13 10:27:46 AM  

NobleHam: [iiicitadel.com image 600x800]

Farmer's market but no farms, firearms museum but no shooting range or hunting ground, and they seem to be preparing for an invasion by Vikings rather than building any sort of actually useful defensive structures... This seems ill-conceived.

Also, when did the rifle become the icon of American liberty? Surely the flag, or the bald eagle, or SOMETHING ranks higher than the rifle in terms of national symbolism. If not, we're really farked.


It's not being built for real defense. It's for hardcore LARPing. This is the real life equivalent of moving your character to a PVP server.
 
2013-01-13 10:28:05 AM  

Raharu: "The members of the Citadel will need jars to store their own piss. I bet the bell jar salesman in town will like that"

What else are they going to dunk Effigies of the president into?

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ole' beckhead never spent too much time in a classroom/lab.

Mr. High School graduate.
 
2013-01-13 10:28:21 AM  
From their FAQ:

Private vs. Public

One of the primary reasons for a lease paradigm versus private property inside the walls is our desire to make the community for Patriots only.

The model will be similar in many ways to that of Disneyland. It is walled, gated, private property with controlled access. People pay to enter and agree to the rules because they see value in doing so. It is all based on a voluntary agreement between the owners of the property and those who want to come inside. Millions of people visit Disneyland and interact peacefully. It's exceptionally rare to hear of any serious problems. The key is that those people want to be there and understand what is expected of them. Surprisingly similar to what we are doing.


You guys are nuts. It's going to be just like Disneyland! We just need to go to Derpcott Center to sign our Patriot Agreements!
 
2013-01-13 10:28:35 AM  
Sounds like it will turn out to be the worst home owners association ever. I'll pass.
 
2013-01-13 10:30:15 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: HAHAHA the walls on their fort design are out of date for repelling even an 1812 artillery attack. This is why history degrees are important, people.


If they're holed up and getting hit with arty they're boned anyway. You could, in theory, put some tank traps between the inner and outer walls and along the outside walls (kinda doubt they have land mines) but standing your ground against a superior force is foolish to begin with.... should it come to that, which is what they seem to be preparing for with that type of fortification.
 
2013-01-13 10:30:29 AM  
Oh yeah. Very nice tomb you built for yourself.
 
2013-01-13 10:31:04 AM  
Considering how ineffective a wall is at keeping people out you might think it is designed to help keep people in.
 
2013-01-13 10:31:49 AM  

NobleHam: [iiicitadel.com image 600x800]

Farmer's market but no farms, firearms museum but no shooting range or hunting ground, and they seem to be preparing for an invasion by Vikings rather than building any sort of actually useful defensive structures... This seems ill-conceived.

Also, when did the rifle become the icon of American liberty? Surely the flag, or the bald eagle, or SOMETHING ranks higher than the rifle in terms of national symbolism. If not, we're really farked.


But there's a reflecting pool!
 
2013-01-13 10:33:06 AM  
2 well placed shells and suddenly everyone is trapped inside. 2 more mortar shells and they lose all utilities. Time will take care of the rest
 
2013-01-13 10:33:16 AM  
I give it a couple years until...

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-13 10:33:54 AM  
Idaho: It's like a hole nuther country.
 
2013-01-13 10:34:15 AM  
So where are the anti-aircraft batteries? Guess it doesn't matter a single tank division and a couple of drones and they would be wiped out in a couple of days. It would work fairly well for zombies though.
 
2013-01-13 10:34:31 AM  
The Citadel was on Fark before, but back then, they only had a WordPress blog. Now they've grown into a full website. It brings a tear to my eye to see that. Derp grows up so fast. *sniffle*

But seriously, the entire "Patriot Agreement" (which you have to agree to to apply to live in their castle) is focused on defense, particularly militia training and marksmanship. There's absolutely no information on how people will live with each other. They even plan their primary source of revenue to be arms manufacturing.

It leads me to believe they're giving themselves one option to solve disagreements within their community.
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2013-01-13 10:34:35 AM  

Lost Thought 00: 2 well placed shells and suddenly everyone is trapped inside. 2 more mortar shells and they lose all utilities. Time will take care of the rest


Yep. Bypass the hard points and let 'em starve.
 
2013-01-13 10:34:39 AM  

Raharu: Eleven: The Town Militia will hold an award/recognition ceremony on April 19th each year to celebrate Patriot's Day.


That's the day Tim McVeigh "celebrated" the Waco anniversary in Oklahoma City.
 
2013-01-13 10:34:52 AM  
Who would even bother trying to attack this compound? It looks like a voluntary prison to me. I say have at it.
 
2013-01-13 10:36:17 AM  

CADMonkey79: So where are the anti-aircraft batteries? Guess it doesn't matter a single tank division and a couple of drones and they would be wiped out in a couple of days. It would work fairly well for zombies though.


Until the market ran out of food. Seriously, this has to be a joke. No one is stupid enough to give these people money, are they?
 
2013-01-13 10:36:20 AM  

Granny_Panties: Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: FTFA: Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes - such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina - or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.

Do you get a great many hurricanes in Idaho?

Probably not, but a few might have imaginary friends like scarecrows, lions, tin men, and flying monkeys.


What about hurricane Potato?
 
2013-01-13 10:37:47 AM  
Just a few points. Since when was socialism a lifestyle? If you are free, why are there towers inside the compound? finally, "they talk of using a panel to resove disputes: Isn't that, by definition, comunism?
 
2013-01-13 10:38:22 AM  

Teufelaffe: Granny_Panties: Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: FTFA: Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes - such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina - or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.

Do you get a great many hurricanes in Idaho?

Probably not, but a few might have imaginary friends like scarecrows, lions, tin men, and flying monkeys.

What about hurricane Potato?


Hurricane Potatoe? The are Hurricane Potatoe!
 
2013-01-13 10:38:34 AM  

CADMonkey79: Nuclear Monk: BitwiseShift: I particularly like the arbitration clause at the end wherein the victim signs away all constitutional rights to a gang, err panel.

And surprised they didn't buy the Branch Davidian compound near Crawford.

'Panel' is somewhat of a misnomer. The Panel is a bicameral organization consisting of a single person upper chamber (called the Master), and a single person lower chamber (called the Blaster).

Pretty sure Tina Turner won't be allowed to run the place though. Too blah.


Alright then, back to the original plan of calling the chambers "Power Top" and "Power Bottom".
 
2013-01-13 10:38:57 AM  
They are...
 
2013-01-13 10:39:31 AM  
Go to your therapist, young man!
 
2013-01-13 10:39:44 AM  

jaytkay: Raharu: Eleven: The Town Militia will hold an award/recognition ceremony on April 19th each year to celebrate Patriot's Day.

That's the day Tim McVeigh "celebrated" the Waco anniversary in Oklahoma City.


I THINK they're celebrating Lexington/Concord. But yeah, it's been a questionable date in the past couple of decades.
 
2013-01-13 10:40:02 AM  
In the unlikely case they actually have the wherewithal to build this thing, it the duty of normal people fark with them relentlessly.

I suggest we send them hundreds of postcards like this:

lh3.googleusercontent.com

lh6.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-01-13 10:41:52 AM  

CADMonkey79: So where are the anti-aircraft batteries? Guess it doesn't matter a single tank division and a couple of drones and they would be wiped out in a couple of days. It would work fairly well for zombies though.


Shiat, I think you give them too much credit. If that map is accurate, there is one inner and outer gate and no other entrance in or out. A couple of local Sheriff's Deputies could just borrow a snow plow from a nearby town, park it in front of the gate and wait a bit.
 
2013-01-13 10:42:16 AM  

jaytkay: Raharu: Eleven: The Town Militia will hold an award/recognition ceremony on April 19th each year to celebrate Patriot's Day.

That's the day Tim McVeigh "celebrated" the Waco anniversary in Oklahoma City.


This is one of the reasons the gun control debate scares me. You start banning guns again and these type of people go from being crazy on free republic to building bombs in the back of trucks irl.
 
2013-01-13 10:42:29 AM  

NobleHam: [iiicitadel.com image 600x800]

Farmer's market but no farms, firearms museum but no shooting range or hunting ground, and they seem to be preparing for an invasion by Vikings rather than building any sort of actually useful defensive structures...


So much THIS. Looking at that "citadel" I see a fairy-tale castle that couldn't hold off a determined band of cub scouts. So, no actual experience with defensive structures, just "put up walls and towers". Sheesh. lots of chance of undermining, nevermind what artillery would do. Heck, an RPG would do.
 
2013-01-13 10:42:40 AM  
After they get settled, someone should sneak up in the dark and put a lock on the outside of the main gate.......
 
2013-01-13 10:42:49 AM  
www.amctv.com

"Quit stealing my ideas!"
 
2013-01-13 10:43:21 AM  
I love how the word "Patriot" now means "someone who hates the government."

As far as the worship of guns that appears there (a museum of firearms? really? how about a temple of firearms?) I think it may have something to do with the preppers who relish pointing out that in the apocalypse, you don't need to know anything about engineering, farming, medicine, or any kind of technology when you can simply take what you want from unarmed people.
 
2013-01-13 10:43:32 AM  

Doctor Funkenstein: CADMonkey79: So where are the anti-aircraft batteries? Guess it doesn't matter a single tank division and a couple of drones and they would be wiped out in a couple of days. It would work fairly well for zombies though.

Shiat, I think you give them too much credit. If that map is accurate, there is one inner and outer gate and no other entrance in or out. A couple of local Sheriff's Deputies could just borrow a snow plow from a nearby town, park it in front of the gate and wait a bit.


You would have to watch our for snipers though. Lots of places for them to hide in those walls.
 
2013-01-13 10:44:36 AM  
The panhandle of Idaho is renowned for its scenic beauty, notably rugged mountains and rolling hills. It is among one of America's most superbly beautiful landscapes. Whatever the season, you will find numerous recreational activities. Indulge in boating and other forms of water sports. Enjoy world-class fishing on Lake Coeur d'Alene or on many other lakes, rivers, and high-mountain streams. There are trails for hiking, picturesque paths for strolling, as well as places ideal for biking or horseback riding. The Idaho panhandle has also earned a stellar reputation for champion hunting and deluxe skiing!

Yeah, I'm sure their average resident will take advantage of that:

www.neoshoforums.com
 
2013-01-13 10:45:55 AM  
Look, the only way I know how to show how much I love my country is to hole-up in a compound and start stockpiling weaponry. If you disagree with me I will brand you a commie, socialist, nazi.

Because that's how much I love America and her people.
 
2013-01-13 10:45:55 AM  

lj1330: Just a few points. Since when was socialism a lifestyle? If you are free, why are there towers inside the compound? finally, "they talk of using a panel to resove disputes: Isn't that, by definition, comunism?


Close. Communism is a stateless, classless society in which resources are pooled to the people in greatest need.

Using a panel to resolve disputes is just that: using a panel to resolve disputes.
 
2013-01-13 10:46:30 AM  
Idaho, eh? Hope they'll be okay in case the Yellowstone Caldera blows.
 
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