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2013-01-13 09:03:03 AM  
Life is different there?
 
2013-01-13 09:04:20 AM  
Oh Jesus. Now that I actually read that... Wow. Yes, keep them all in one place, please. Proceed.
 
2013-01-13 09:27:32 AM  
Glenn Beck is planning the same thing...

Soon the Rand wars will begin.
 
2013-01-13 09:30:26 AM  
My prediction...it descends into anarchy within three years.
 
2013-01-13 09:32:48 AM  
Waco 2.
 
2013-01-13 09:32:52 AM  
Fark that shiat
 
2013-01-13 09:33:56 AM  

Raharu: Waco 2.

 
2013-01-13 09:34:10 AM  
...patriotic community where your children will be educated in school rather than indoctrinated...

Probably won't learn basic math, but you sure will know lots about Jesus and shootin' folks that aren't in your cult.
 
2013-01-13 09:34:21 AM  

Catlenfell: My prediction...it descends into anarchy within three years.


I'd bet closer to 1.
 
2013-01-13 09:35:04 AM  
More than likely they will forget how to feed themselves, and then throw a hissy fit when the nearest megamart does accept barter
 
2013-01-13 09:35:44 AM  

The Briny Derp: Raharu: Waco 2.

 
2013-01-13 09:36:31 AM  
It's like a terrarium of crazy. How fun! They could make themselves truly self-sustaining if they put video cameras everywhere a la The Truman Show and sold it to PPV.
 
2013-01-13 09:37:05 AM  

Raharu: Waco 2.


Nah, Waco had a dirm leadership heirarchy. This doesn't, so it will be torn apart by in fighting within months.
 
2013-01-13 09:38:20 AM  
Besides, half the residents will be undercover cops.
 
2013-01-13 09:38:40 AM  

Raharu: Waco 2.


Let us hope.
 
2013-01-13 09:38:43 AM  
Careful. I hear this is how patriotic blogger patriots get lured into Fartbamao's reeducation camps.

Feel free to forward this information to others.
 
2013-01-13 09:39:33 AM  
I particularly like the arbitration clause at the end wherein the victim signs away all constitutional rights to a gang, err panel.

And surprised they didn't buy the Branch Davidian compound near Crawford.
 
2013-01-13 09:40:26 AM  

Lost Thought 00: More than likely they will forget how to feed themselves, and then throw a hissy fit when the nearest megamart does accept barter


Yeah, right. They will most likely just use their food stamps. And if they get sick they'll use their Medicare/Medicaid. More than 1/2 will pay the "rent" with their Social Security check.
 
2013-01-13 09:40:39 AM  
But seriously, there was a story on fark not long ago, it was red lit, about glen beck doing nearly the same thing, any chance someone can link to it, I want to Compare the two.
 
2013-01-13 09:43:17 AM  
Society...without the society part.
 
2013-01-13 09:44:37 AM  

BitwiseShift: I particularly like the arbitration clause at the end wherein the victim signs away all constitutional rights to a gang, err panel.


Da fark? How does that work exactly?
 
2013-01-13 09:44:55 AM  

Raharu: Waco 2.


Except poured concrete doesn't burn so well......what a shame.
 
2013-01-13 09:47:14 AM  
I pity any children who are dragged there to live by their insane prepper parents. Of course, this thing is still in the "planning" stages, so it's probably nothing more than a scheme to separate scared lunatics from their $33 thanks to the "application fee". Either that, or it's viral marketing for a reality show. The Patriot Agreement is comedy gold. I will be shocked if they actually build this monument to bed wetting.

And from Wikipedia:

The racial makeup of the county was 88.66% White, 0.12% Black or African American, 8.94% Native American, 0.15% Asian, 0.05% Pacific Islander, 0.25% from other races, and 1.82% from two or more races. 1.55% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race. 26.6% were of German, 11.7% English, 9.5% American and 8.6% Irish ancestry according to Census 2000.

I'm sure that had nothing whatsover with the selection of Benewah (balls) County as the location of Berghof II.
 
2013-01-13 09:49:33 AM  

TopNotched: Raharu: Waco 2.

Except poured concrete doesn't burn so well......what a shame.


Get concrete hot enough and it burns just fine. The problem is the amount of energy required to get it started is pretty high.
 
2013-01-13 09:50:01 AM  

Fail in Human Form: BitwiseShift: I particularly like the arbitration clause at the end wherein the victim signs away all constitutional rights to a gang, err panel.

Da fark? How does that work exactly?


Mutual paranoia. If anyone has a real beef, none of this wouldn't stand up in court. Of course, that requires at least 1 party to actually trust the court system.
 
2013-01-13 09:52:05 AM  
Signs you might be an extremist:

1) You are considering a move to a compound in Idaho.
 
2013-01-13 09:52:38 AM  
That's a boatload of fear right there.
 
2013-01-13 09:53:02 AM  

Raharu: But seriously, there was a story on fark not long ago, it was red lit, about glen beck doing nearly the same thing, any chance someone can link to it, I want to Compare the two.


Goes to Mother Jones
 
2013-01-13 09:54:25 AM  

Uranus Is Huge!: Signs you might be an extremist:

1) You are considering a move to a compound in Idaho.


2) ...

i50.tinypic.com
 
2013-01-13 09:54:32 AM  
Whats so awesome is all they've done so far is buy some land on a Native American reservation and put up a web site, yet they're already getting pushback and hostility from the already-living-there-not-quite-as-crazy natives of Northern Idaho.

Derpy isolationist nut is kind of a cottage industry up there.

// I have to be in CDA in a few weeks, can't wait to hear all about it.
 
2013-01-13 09:54:51 AM  
The "artist" concepts were fantastic. They better store a lot of non perishables though, not a lot of farm land or are for livestock.
 
2013-01-13 09:55:30 AM  
They will probably have a 20' razorwire fence and armed guards just in case one of their sheep decide to go off campus.....
 
2013-01-13 09:55:35 AM  

Citadel Patriot Agreement

Patriots: The following represents a voluntary set of conditions to which every single Patriot who accepts a residence in the Citadel must agree, in writing. This is a voluntary Agreement. The Citadel is a martial endeavor designed to protect Residents in times of peril (natural or man-made). The Citadel will be built as a fortified bastion of Liberty. The Citadel is not the best housing solution for everyone. Read carefully.

The purpose of this agreement is two-fold. Firstly, it informs all Residents of their obligations to their fellow Patriots. Secondly, this Agreement will assist individuals/families in making an informed decision to opt-out of residency in the Citadel Community in the event our lifestyle is incompatible with you and/or your family.


Preamble: We the People come together in this covenant of our free will and do pledge our Lives, our Fortunes and our Sacred Honor to defend one another and Jefferson's Rightful Liberty, defined as unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. We further affirm our intent to abide all Constitutional laws of the United States of America and our State of residence.

One: Once ratified, this list of conditions may only be altered by unanimous consent of all parties governed by this Agreement, i.e. full-time Residents. Full-time residency will be defined by a select panel of full-time Residents who will also establish guidelines for acceptable exceptions for absences.

Two: Every able-bodied Patriot aged 13 and older governed by this Agreement shall annually demonstrate proficiency with the rifle of his/her choice by hitting a man-sized steel target at 100 yards with open sights at the Citadel range. Each Resident shall have 10 shots and must hit the target at least 7 times.

Three: Every able-bodied Patriot aged 13 and older governed by this Agreement shall annually demonstrate proficiency with a handgun of choice by hitting a man-sized steel target at 25 yards with open sights at the Citadel range. Each Resident shall have 10 shots and must hit the target at least 7 times.

Four: Every able-bodied Patriot of age within the Citadel will maintain one AR15 variant in 5.56mm NATO, at least 5 magazines and 1,000 rounds of ammunition. The responsibility for maintaining functional arms and ammunition levels for every member of the household shall fall to the head of household. Every able-bodied Patriot will be responsible for maintaining a Tactical Go Bag or Muster Kit to satisfy the Minuteman concept. Details TBD and posted elsewhere.

Five: Every household within the Citadel will remain stocked with sufficient food, water, and other preparedness essentials (to be detailed elsewhere) to sustain the needs for every member of the household for a duration of one year.

Six: Every able-bodied Patriot aged 13 and older shall pass a class every three years sponsored by the Citadel on basic emergency medical care; the courses shall focus on battlefield and wilderness environments.

Seven: Every child attending Citadel schools - with parental discretion for maturity - shall have as part of every semester's class curriculum basic marksmanship and firearms safety training leading to the proficiency test on the child's 13th birthday as a "Coming of Age" rite of passage (a parent may attend the classes or personally train the child if so desired). Children attending schools beyond the Citadel, or home-schooled, are required to meet the same proficiency standards at age 13.

Eight: All Patriots, who are of age and are not legally restricted from bearing firearms, shall agree to remain armed with a loaded sidearm whenever visiting the Citadel Town Center. Firearm shall be on-the-person and under the control of the Resident, not merely stored in a vehicle.

Nine: Each household will provide ONE able-bodied Patriot (aged 13 or older) who shall muster one Saturday per month for Martial/Support Training for neighborhood-level training & musters, as set forth by the Militia Commanders of the Community. No single Patriot shall be required to muster more than once per quarter. In the course of every calendar year every able-bodied Patriot and every full-time resident in each household must participate in at least three musters (one neighborhood-level and two full-scale). Part-time residents must participate, in good faith, to the best of their ability.

Ten: Twice annually a full-scale Town Defense Drill will be held for all households and all residents (once in winter weather & once in summer weather).

Eleven: The Town Militia will hold an award/recognition ceremony on April 19th each year to celebrate Patriot's Day.

Twelve: Violations of this Agreement will result in review by an arbitration panel consisting of Citadel Residents with appropriate and proportional disciplinary action taken. The most severe disciplinary action may include the loss of Lease and expulsion from the community.

Thirteen: All Citadel Citizens agree to accept dispute resolution by an arbitration panel in the event a problem that cannot be resolved between residents.


Live ink signatures from all adult applicants (age 18 and above) is required prior to final approval for residency in the Citadel Community.




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You are the Chosen Ones. You have been raised up from Brutality to kill the Brutals that multiply and are legion.
To this end, Zardoz, your God, gave you the gift of the gun.
 
2013-01-13 09:56:35 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Uranus Is Huge!: Signs you might be an extremist:

1) You are considering a move to a compound in Idaho.

2) ...

[i50.tinypic.com image 640x480]


The strange thing is, the only reason I know he's single is because the walls are bare and undecorated.
 
2013-01-13 09:57:25 AM  
They will turn it into the exact oppressive society that they constantly claim to protest and fear the government will turn into.
 
2013-01-13 09:57:42 AM  
Its like Bioshock and Waco combined.
"I is Andrew Ryan, and I done is here to ask yous a question."
 
2013-01-13 09:57:50 AM  
It's times like these in which I wish I had no ethics or morals since so much money could be made from these people. Simply bring out some idea that will protect them from the scary liberals and socialist and they will buy it in mass. Plus you know their money is good because it comes from their government checks they fight so hard not to let others have.
 
2013-01-13 09:58:03 AM  
In other words, here's how to make yourself a target in one easy step!
1) Move here!

Plus, sounds like some kind of dirty SOCIALISM to me: FTA: "Approved applicants receive a Lifetime Lease (paid off in only 30 years). No credit check. No background check. Zero down payment. Zero interest. Zero property taxes."

Because real Murikans don't need fire protection!
 
2013-01-13 09:58:35 AM  

starsrift: NewportBarGuy: Uranus Is Huge!: Signs you might be an extremist:

1) You are considering a move to a compound in Idaho.

2) ...

[i50.tinypic.com image 640x480]

The strange thing is, the only reason I know he's single is because the walls are bare and undecorated.


Or his wife's body is in that foot locker.
 
2013-01-13 09:59:12 AM  
The very few less-than-positive responses we've had from folks currently living in Benewah County are interesting, but not unexpected. Every large project encounters pushback, even by people who have much in common with the "new folks". It's human nature.

Folks in Benewah are preppers - so are the folks coming to the Citadel.

Folks in Benewah like Liberty - so do the folks coming to the Citadel.

Folks in Benewah like the country lifestyle, the mountains, the fishing - so do the folks coming to the Citadel.

The folks in the Citadel will essentially live on their own 3,000 acres and won't be trespassing on anyone's private property.

The folks in the Citadel will get their hair cut in Benewah County - I bet the barber's and hair salons will like that.

The folks in the Citadel will need wells - I bet the well companies in Benewah will like that.

The folks in the Citadel will like hunting & fishing - I bet the local Guides will like that.

The folks in the Citadel will need propane, cut wood and fuel oil - I bet those companies will be pleased.

The folks in the Citadel will wear clothes - I bet the dress shops and clothing stores will like that.

The folks in the Citadel will be hiring people - I bet the unemployed in Benewah will like that.

The folks in the Citadel will eat - I bet the diners and livestock ranches will like that.

The new Citadel residents will be opening dozens of new businesses - I bet the local papers and radio stations will love the new ad revenue.

If the average Benewah resident, right now, is a hunter, fisherman, outdoorsman, shooter, prepper, survivalist, you'd think he wouldn't mind having a few thousand more like-minded people nearby who mind their own business, stay on their own property, are good neighbors, yet are willing to cover his back if ever needed. It's not like the folks in the Citadel are California Hippies.

3,000 acres is a tiny sliver of Benewah County, probably will never be seen by a single resident of the county who doesn't come looking for it.

Wal-Mart won't be coming to town. Skyscrapers won't be on the horizon.

The only problem I see is that a few locals feel as if they weren't properly asked for their permission.

We aren't at that stage yet. But the naysayers found out about this new project because they are preppers - and the project is a town of preppers.

Frankly, I don't see the downside for anyone.


The Citadel's Blog.

This got a greenlight a few weeks back and was mocked pretty well.


"The members of the Citadel will need jars to store their own piss. I bet the bell jar salesman in town will like that"
 
2013-01-13 10:00:09 AM  
FTFA: Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes - such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina - or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.

Do you get a great many hurricanes in Idaho?
 
2013-01-13 10:03:41 AM  
In five years the Citadel founders will be sipping daiquiris on a beach in Rio and laughing about the gullibility of the Amrican Patriot.
 
2013-01-13 10:03:53 AM  
You know what's hilarious? I have a gun-nut cousin who has been extremely vocal on Facebook the past couple years about gun rights. Re-posting all the usual, terrible infographics and "fact pictures", linking to every story of local violence he can find and pointing out how it could have been avoided (spoiler alert: guns)...I think there may have even been a few WND links sprinkled here and there.

The other day I suddenly realized I hadn't seen much from him lately, and wondered if I had hidden one too many of his links and Facebook was just black-holing his stuff to me. I get to looking and notice that his profile has been scrubbed of nearly everything, his name has changed slightly, and I'm no longer his friend. Clearly he's deleted his Facebook account and created another one.

Turns out his job at a public university ran out of grant funding for his position and he's looking for a job.
 
2013-01-13 10:04:06 AM  

BitwiseShift: I particularly like the arbitration clause at the end wherein the victim signs away all constitutional rights to a gang, err panel.

And surprised they didn't buy the Branch Davidian compound near Crawford.


'Panel' is somewhat of a misnomer. The Panel is a bicameral organization consisting of a single person upper chamber (called the Master), and a single person lower chamber (called the Blaster).
 
2013-01-13 10:04:18 AM  
"The members of the Citadel will need jars to store their own piss. I bet the bell jar salesman in town will like that"

What else are they going to dunk Effigies of the president into?

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2013-01-13 10:05:08 AM  

Great_Milenko: I pity any children who are dragged there to live by their insane prepper parents. Of course, this thing is still in the "planning" stages, so it's probably nothing more than a scheme to separate scared lunatics from their $33 thanks to the "application fee". Either that, or it's viral marketing for a reality show. The Patriot Agreement is comedy gold. I will be shocked if they actually build this monument to bed wetting.

And from Wikipedia:

The racial makeup of the county was 88.66% White, 0.12% Black or African American, 8.94% Native American, 0.15% Asian, 0.05% Pacific Islander, 0.25% from other races, and 1.82% from two or more races. 1.55% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race. 26.6% were of German, 11.7% English, 9.5% American and 8.6% Irish ancestry according to Census 2000.

I'm sure that had nothing whatsover with the selection of Benewah (balls) County as the location of Berghof II.


Northern Idaho and Eastern Washington have had, shall we say, "weapons-grade derp" for decades.  Google Ruby Ridge, I'm sure you have, neo-nazi HQ up there by Hayden Lake too, and then there was the guy a few weeks ago who took his Constitutionalist views to court over a bicycle traffic citation and ended up on youtube getting tazed.  "I will not form joinder with you!  I am a not a Man, I am a Person!"  -- using some half baked naval law interpretation that 1) since captains are legal authority aboard a ship at sea, you 2) therefore can claim you are the captain of your own "ship" (your Person) and 3) therefore not be subject to any federal laws.

Weapons grade derp is a growth industry in northern idaho and eastern washington.
 
2013-01-13 10:05:39 AM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: FTFA: Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes - such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina - or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.

Do you get a great many hurricanes in Idaho?


Probably not, but a few might have imaginary friends like scarecrows, lions, tin men, and flying monkeys.
 
2013-01-13 10:07:48 AM  

Raharu: "The members of the Citadel will need jars to store their own piss. I bet the bell jar salesman in town will like that"

What else are they going to dunk Effigies of the president into?

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Imagine the horrible places that Beck inserts that tiny Obama when the cameras aren't on.
 
2013-01-13 10:07:52 AM  
No credit check. No background check. Zero down payment. Zero interest. Zero property taxes.

How could it fail?
 
2013-01-13 10:09:11 AM  
What's the the deal with that URL. At first, I thought it was the illicitadel.
 
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