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(Daily Mail)   A sheriff's department in Louisiana is offering free firearm training for. A) Women B) 1st time owners. C) Children between the ages of 8 and 12   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 182
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2013-01-13 12:30:22 AM
My grandfather bought me my first gun (20 gauge) at 12. Sounds about right.
 
2013-01-13 12:31:52 AM
i.dailymail.co.uk

Into good hands: A young boy carries a BB rifle on his first hunt, a perfect participant

Perfect? Really?? Get your goddamn boogerpicker off the bang switch, as they say.
 
2013-01-13 12:33:14 AM
I have no problem with this.
 
2013-01-13 12:36:28 AM
AKA marketing.

www.okfnra.orgwww.designlessbetter.com
 
2013-01-13 12:39:11 AM
An educated youth is far preferable to an ignorant adult.
 
2013-01-13 12:40:29 AM
And?
 
2013-01-13 12:42:24 AM

Lsherm: An educated youth is far preferable to an ignorant adult.


Good point.

www.rawstory.com
 
2013-01-13 12:43:39 AM
Good. My dad taught me firearm safety and conservancy starting at age 6 or so. I carried a loaded .410 by age 9. I was on the all american trapshooting team at 14. I concede that urbanites find this odd(and even frightening), but I was raised around guns and had an extensive understanding and respect for them instilled at an early age. That's kinda how it goes here in middle America.
 
2013-01-13 12:54:46 AM
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7532715/81855184#c81855184" target="_blank">dugitman</a>:</b> <i>Good. My dad taught me firearm safety and conservancy starting at age 6 or so. I carried a loaded .410 by age 9. I was on the all american trapshooting team at 14. I concede that urbanites find this odd(and even frightening), but I was raised around guns and had an extensive understanding and respect for them instilled at an early age. That's kinda how it goes here in middle America.</i>

Growing up the guns were part of the wall. I never touched a single one until my grandfather handed it to me and told me to fire. I did horrible things to that coffee can.

*shudder*
 
2013-01-13 12:58:45 AM
Yes, because 'merica needs grammar school kids from the South who can shoot to kill.
 
2013-01-13 01:22:11 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Lsherm: An educated youth is far preferable to an ignorant adult.

Good point.

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JerkyMeat: Yes, because 'merica needs grammar school kids from the South who can shoot to kill.



Oh man, you two must be so scared of kids being trained to responsibly handle firearms. It is a shame they are learning to properly use and respect guns instead of getting into daddy's gun collection like its a toy box and making a statistic and an anti-gun talking point out of little brother, amirite?
 
2013-01-13 01:31:28 AM
CSB: I learned how to shoot a .22 when I was 8 or so.
 
2013-01-13 01:34:29 AM

violentsalvation: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Lsherm: An educated youth is far preferable to an ignorant adult.

Good point.

[www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

JerkyMeat: Yes, because 'merica needs grammar school kids from the South who can shoot to kill.


Oh man, you two must be so scared of kids being trained to responsibly handle firearms. It is a shame they are learning to properly use and respect guns instead of getting into daddy's gun collection like its a toy box and making a statistic and an anti-gun talking point out of little brother, amirite?


Are you?

media.heavy.com
 
2013-01-13 01:38:08 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Lsherm: An educated youth is far preferable to an ignorant adult.

Good point.

[www.rawstory.com image 615x345]


That guy's problems run far deeper than just a lack of firearms respect.
 
2013-01-13 01:38:54 AM

The_Sponge: CSB: I learned how to shoot a .22 when I was 8 or so.


This.
 
2013-01-13 01:39:24 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Are you?


No, he's dead. And my chances of being murdered in a similar fashion are 1 in some several million.
 
2013-01-13 01:41:04 AM

Lsherm: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Lsherm: An educated youth is far preferable to an ignorant adult.

Good point.

[www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

That guy's problems run far deeper than just a lack of firearms respect.


violentsalvation: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Are you?

No, he's dead. And my chances of being murdered in a similar fashion are 1 in some several million.


Just ignore him.
 
2013-01-13 01:48:57 AM

violentsalvation: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Lsherm: An educated youth is far preferable to an ignorant adult.

Good point.

[www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

JerkyMeat: Yes, because 'merica needs grammar school kids from the South who can shoot to kill.


Oh man, you two must be so scared of kids being trained to responsibly handle firearms. It is a shame they are learning to properly use and respect guns instead of getting into daddy's gun collection like its a toy box and making a statistic and an anti-gun talking point out of little brother, amirite?


Now, now, I was kid once and I had adults train me in the responsible way to handle firearms, but we are talking the SOUTH here.
 
2013-01-13 01:59:19 AM

JerkyMeat: violentsalvation: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Lsherm: An educated youth is far preferable to an ignorant adult.

Good point.

[www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

JerkyMeat: Yes, because 'merica needs grammar school kids from the South who can shoot to kill.


Oh man, you two must be so scared of kids being trained to responsibly handle firearms. It is a shame they are learning to properly use and respect guns instead of getting into daddy's gun collection like its a toy box and making a statistic and an anti-gun talking point out of little brother, amirite?

Now, now, I was kid once and I had adults train me in the responsible way to handle firearms, but we are talking the SOUTH here.


OK you were joking and I missed it. My apologies to you.
 
2013-01-13 03:44:28 AM
I'm not a fan of gun, but I'm fine with kids learning that they aren't toys.


Only trouble with this is the retards with small children who keep a loaded pistol in their nightstand or under their pillow probably aren't the ones sending their kids to this.
 
2013-01-13 03:44:49 AM
As a resident of Louisiana, I am outra--

..."Kids First Gun Program" in Caddo Parish...

...oh. Well. That's north Louisiana, where you're automatically given a shotgun when you pop out of your mom's cooter. So my outrage, it is gone.
 
2013-01-13 03:51:34 AM

JerkyMeat: Yes, because 'merica needs grammar school kids from the South who can shoot to kill.


3/10

It would have been a normal 0/10 but your trolling managed to make my eyelid twitch.
 
2013-01-13 03:56:07 AM
If firearms are going to be around, kids must learn proper safety and respect.

Anybody who has a problem with this is part of the problem.
 
2013-01-13 03:58:31 AM
It saves the kids from that awkward moment when a gun jams amidst the broken bodies of your fellow man.
Boy will your face be red when you lean in for the headshot on that little girl and you forgot the safety.
We've all been there.
 
2013-01-13 04:00:45 AM
Imagine the Daily Mail's outrage when they learn American teens are being taught to drive on the wrong side of the road.

/This went green?
 
2013-01-13 04:00:54 AM
The age someone is ready to learn how to shoot can start as young as 8 and as old as never.  It depends on the person.
 
2013-01-13 04:08:22 AM

The_Sponge: CSB: I learned how to shoot a .22 when I was 8 or so.


Same here. It was a joint project with the city police and Cub Scouts. The police department let the Cub Scouts use their basement range one Saturday a month to train kids on how to handle the guns properly. IIRC you paid a buck or two (this was in 1970) and they supplied rifles, ammo and trainers.
 
2013-01-13 04:09:45 AM

OgreMagi: The age someone is ready to learn how to shoot can start as young as 8 and as old as never.  It depends on the person.


And there's also a big difference between training a kid to shoot, which is fine, and giving your average 8 year old unsupervised access to a firearm, which probably isn't.

It's a firearms safety course, which is a great thing since all of those kids will probably be around guns anyway.
 
2013-01-13 04:11:44 AM
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It's not news, it's fark arguing about guns.
 
2013-01-13 04:17:30 AM

Arnprior Joe: OgreMagi: The age someone is ready to learn how to shoot can start as young as 8 and as old as never.  It depends on the person.

And there's also a big difference between training a kid to shoot, which is fine, and giving your average 8 year old unsupervised access to a firearm, which probably isn't.

It's a firearms safety course, which is a great thing since all of those kids will probably be around guns anyway.


I've always believed the people most afraid of guns should take a firearms safety course.
 
2013-01-13 04:19:51 AM
If children are going to be around firearms, it is important that they be trained in their responsible use.

What boggles my mind is the inability of the gun rights supporters to really get serious, and stay in front of this issue in a reasonable and responsible manner. Firearm violence, injuries, and death is a serious public health issue.

Extremists are allowed drive the agenda because a lot of people make a lot of money of the relative free market in a wide range of firearms, ammunition, and accessories. If the NRA was serious about the 2nd amendment, they would get out of the pocket of the resellers and manufacturers.
 
2013-01-13 04:19:57 AM
The summer camp I attended as a yoot had a minimum age of 8 and we enjoyed the rifle range, archery, solo canoeing, horseback riding (full-size saddle horses, not ponies), fire building, and all kinds of other stuff that had the potential to kill you. Since we were just normal kinds rather than precious snowflakes, no one ever died and everyone came away a well-rounded individual. Amazing what you can accomplish when you treat children like human beings instead of bumbling, incompetent fools that need to be encased in bubble wrap.
 
2013-01-13 04:20:13 AM
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It's like I've had to do everything today.

/23hrs and 50 minutes awake so far
 
2013-01-13 04:22:25 AM

Lsherm: An educated youth is far preferable to an ignorant adult.


+1
 
2013-01-13 04:24:39 AM
I've always believed the people most afraid of guns should take a firearms safety course.

Everyone should, just for the basic knowledge. I don't care if you never want/handle a gun ever again, but until the 2nd amendment is repealed they will be prevalent in the US, even with banning legislation. The little bit of knowledge you might gain from the experience might be useful later in life, you never know.

Of course, I also think people should be able to change their own tires and oil (and other basic car maintenance), know how to do basic plumbing/electrical/housework, know how to tend a vegetable garden, know how to start (and extinguish) fires, know how to clean a fish/bird/mammal, etc. Basic knowledge promotes basic responsibility, and you never know when you'll be in a position where you can't afford professional help, or where your life might be saved by having just enough knowledge not to panic. Some of those skills might also allow you to spot ripoffs and cons too.
 
2013-01-13 04:25:47 AM
I'm sort of of mixed feelings on this. Growing up, I had NO exposure to 'guns' outside of Hollywood. I got a small amount of firearms training from my ex's father, when I was a couple of years out of high school, but the majority was later when I was in BCT (for which I am eternally grateful).

My husband, and his best friend, have no idea how to shoot from the prone position, and never got the 'never point the rifle at anything you don't intend to shoot' part; husband grew up on a farm, not sure about the friend. FIL is not much better. All my military friends know the basics better than almost all of the 'country boys' I've encountered since marrying.

My ex, however, has never been someone I 100% trusted to control himself with firearms, and his BROTHER even less so - in fact they told me a story about a fight they had where the brother, who is a few years younger, nearly shot my ex out of anger. This was when they were both still teens. Their dad was ex-military, and all of them are 'lifetime' NRA members; yet, I am very very happy they all live many states away from me. I don't even want to know how their much younger brothers fared with firearms training and handling.

I like firearms, I like shooting targets and such, even on a makeshift 'range'... what scares me is people who haven't had at least a week's worth of training having access to firearms. Personally I'm fine with starting people young and getting the point across, but I seriously think every person who is allowed to own these weapons needs to have the same level of safety training as military personnel, though not necessarily the precision training.

Then again I get bent out of shape when my inlaws ignore other types of safety precautions, so... yeah, I know it has a snowball's chance in hell of being widely implemented.
 
2013-01-13 04:29:22 AM
I like firearms, I like shooting targets and such, even on a makeshift 'range'... what scares me is people who haven't had at least a week's worth of training having access to firearms. Personally I'm fine with starting people young and getting the point across, but I seriously think every person who is allowed to own these weapons needs to have the same level of safety training as military personnel, though not necessarily the precision training.

Every time I've been at a range there has been some a$$wipe being unsafe with his gun. And every time, someone else has called them out on it, usually using forceful and profane language. Only occasionally has the offender not been sheepish and apologetic, and at those times I've left the range quite rapidly.
 
2013-01-13 04:29:34 AM
My son is 7 and knows how to shoot a Ruger Mark III target pistol.

People read shiat like this and dont understand...NOT the same as teaching an 8 year old to shoot in new york.

Most people in SOUTH Louisiana (newsflash: not every part of the state is the same, and this does not generally apply to north LA) are very good shots by the time they are 12 or 13.
 
2013-01-13 04:30:29 AM
Ok. Let's get a list going of when you got your first gun , age , and caliber.


Age: 9-10 Caliber .22
 
2013-01-13 04:31:01 AM

JerkyMeat: Yes, because 'merica needs grammar school kids from the South who can shoot to kill.


Do dont piss off any little kids from Louisiana.
 
2013-01-13 04:32:11 AM

The more you eat the more you fart: JerkyMeat: Yes, because 'merica needs grammar school kids from the South who can shoot to kill.

Do dont piss off any little kids from Louisiana.


Should have read:

"SO don't piss off any little kids from Louisiana. Its not our fault most kids here are more capable with firearms than the police where you are."
 
2013-01-13 04:33:23 AM
I remember one time that someone suggested firearms training for middle school kids on NPR. I think the host (Diane Rehm) just about had a stroke at that one. This is one part of the conversation that crystallizes the culture divide we deal with in gun control debate.

I worked in a pretty rural school once, we had kids who started going hunting in the 3rd and 4th grades. (We also had farm kids who helped birth and slaughter cows, that's a different story though.) Most of the boys (something like 80-90%) had their own rifle or shotgun by the end of high school. There are localities where they've outlawed pretty much any guns, period.

I'm not sure there really can be a one-size-fits-all federal gun control solution.
 
2013-01-13 04:36:24 AM
(We also had farm kids who helped birth and slaughter cows, that's a different story though.)

Another pair of essential skills. Birthing calves was one of the most enjoyable experiences of my then-young life. Pushing the prolapsed uterus back into a freshly-deflowered heifer after we had to ratchet a large bull calf out of her was also one of the most memorable. I learned the F-word that day from the vet...
 
2013-01-13 04:37:26 AM

JerkyMeat: Now, now, I was kid once and I had adults train me in the responsible way to handle firearms, but we are talking the SOUTH here.


In what is the irony of ironies, gun control laws were originally created to keep black people from getting guns.   This is a fascinating read.

So in keeping with internet standards of arguments, why do you hate black people? ;)
 
2013-01-13 04:38:45 AM

CujoQuarrel: Ok. Let's get a list going of when you got your first gun , age , and caliber.


Age: 9-10 Caliber .22


25, .22 and .303 British. I'd shot the .22 when I was 8 though, inherited both from my grandfather. I couldn't believe how dirty the bolt in the Lee-Enfield was though, I swear he never cleaned it.
 
2013-01-13 04:39:52 AM

juvandy: (We also had farm kids who helped birth and slaughter cows, that's a different story though.)

Another pair of essential skills. Birthing calves was one of the most enjoyable experiences of my then-young life. Pushing the prolapsed uterus back into a freshly-deflowered heifer after we had to ratchet a large bull calf out of her was also one of the most memorable. I learned the F-word that day from the vet...


Cleaning smegma from a horse is also an essential skill:

http://www.wikihow.com/Clean-the-Sheath-of-a-Horse

Animals don't really give a shiat about human ideas of "gross" for good reason.
 
2013-01-13 04:40:28 AM

Arnprior Joe: CujoQuarrel: Ok. Let's get a list going of when you got your first gun , age , and caliber.


Age: 9-10 Caliber .22

25, .22 and .303 British. I'd shot the .22 when I was 8 though, inherited both from my grandfather. I couldn't believe how dirty the bolt in the Lee-Enfield was though, I swear he never cleaned it.


That's Grandma's job.

/Your Granny was a slacker
 
2013-01-13 04:43:02 AM

Lsherm: juvandy: (We also had farm kids who helped birth and slaughter cows, that's a different story though.)

Another pair of essential skills. Birthing calves was one of the most enjoyable experiences of my then-young life. Pushing the prolapsed uterus back into a freshly-deflowered heifer after we had to ratchet a large bull calf out of her was also one of the most memorable. I learned the F-word that day from the vet...

Cleaning smegma from a horse is also an essential skill:

http://www.wikihow.com/Clean-the-Sheath-of-a-Horse

Animals don't really give a shiat about human ideas of "gross" for good reason.


"Use a sponge or hose to gently wet the sheath and penis, starting from the belly so that the horse isn't surprised."

Better advice I have never seen.

/and now I have something to post in the "last thing you copied" thread.
 
2013-01-13 04:44:32 AM

Cleaning smegma from a horse is also an essential skill:


Gotta admit- I never understood the need for that. What do wild horses/zebras do?
 
2013-01-13 04:46:03 AM

juvandy: Cleaning smegma from a horse is also an essential skill:

Gotta admit- I never understood the need for that. What do wild horses/zebras do?


They fark a lot.
 
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