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(Columbus Dispatch)   Man has lucky streak at casino, wins $35,800. Takes his winnings home. In cash. His luck finally ran out   (dispatch.com) divider line 94
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2013-01-13 12:17:24 AM
"It was a year's salary, all in one night," he said.

Doesn't sound like this guys been doing too well in the luck department prior to his winning streak though, subby.
 
2013-01-13 12:29:43 AM
Whar dumbass tag ,  whar?
 
2013-01-13 12:51:19 AM
Anyone who opts to take that much money home in cash probably wasn't going to hold onto it for very long, anyway.
 
2013-01-13 12:59:16 AM
Um, was the money not recovered?  Can't they garnish the money from the perps?
 
2013-01-13 01:08:48 AM
"I look at it as, I lost $1,000, which is what I played with," he said. "I kept my life, and I got a manila envelope."

I don't care what you guys say, I kinda like this silly guy.
 
2013-01-13 01:18:31 AM
Casino probably hired thugs to get their money back.
 
2013-01-13 01:30:03 AM
the biggest cash payout I ever gave someone was $113,500.

we explained to the customer that it would be safest if he took a cage check. I told him take a check for 100 and then 13.5 cash (which is pretty good walking around money).

he wanted nothing doing.

we told him that we could escort him at the casino and that he could request an escort to his vehicle, but if he thought for a second that other players (or employees) weren't aware of his winnings, that he needs to smarten up.

he took the cash.

his friend had a pretty good pay-out of about 15k, but next to the 113.5, that was chump change.

2 Irish guys, literally straight off the boat, thick Irish brogue.

/I was more concerned about an employee running to their cellphone to call a boyfriend or someone to come and roll these guys once they left the property.
 
2013-01-13 01:37:19 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Um, was the money not recovered?  Can't they garnish the money from the perps?


I was wondering that, too.
 
2013-01-13 01:54:14 AM

Frank N Stein: Casino probably hired thugs to get their money back.

 
2013-01-13 01:55:30 AM

fusillade762: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Um, was the money not recovered?  Can't they garnish the money from the perps?

I was wondering that, too.


No "garnishing" is required. The money is now in the custody of the police, where it will stay.
 
2013-01-13 01:56:05 AM
Denial is aw-some!
 
2013-01-13 01:59:14 AM
This must happen a lot in Ohio. My uncle who lives there was talking about this sort of thing over the holidays.
 
2013-01-13 02:04:47 AM
Hayes thinks that someone in line nearby at the casino saw his address written down when he cashed out.

Detective Thomas Clark of the Columbus police robbery squad said that's likely what happened


Bullshiat. Someone who works for the casino was in on it.
 
2013-01-13 02:06:20 AM
I won a football pool one year.  It was big for me.
The owner said, "come back tomorrow at noon- you'll get hit or end up buying the bar drinks and you'll lose it all"

Really cool of him because it never occurred to me in my SuperBowl stupor.
 
2013-01-13 02:06:56 AM

Relatively Obscure: "I look at it as, I lost $1,000, which is what I played with," he said. "I kept my life, and I got a manila envelope."

I don't care what you guys say, I kinda like this silly guy.


I visualize Kenneth from 30 Rock.
 
2013-01-13 02:08:51 AM

Frank N Stein: Casino probably hired thugs to get their money back.



They caught the guys who did it, and at least one of them was at the casino when it happened. I don't think they were connected to the casino, but it's obvious that they knew exactly what they were looking for when they robbed him at his house. Reminds me of that episode of Jungle Gold where the dudes do a black-market gold deal, and then as they're driving out of the area they come across a roadblock, and a masked-gunman with an AK robs them, knowing exactly what to go for, i.e. the bag with the gold bar in it.

Glad they caught the @ssholes who did this. Armed robbery will get you a lot of years in PMITA prison.
 
2013-01-13 02:09:18 AM
Dumb for carrying enough cash that the pigs could have seized it as drug money.

/totally unrelated my wife is trying to ban me from fark because I said I was going to fark her brains out
//real life filterpwned
///help
 
2013-01-13 02:13:10 AM

It's Me Bender: Bullshiat. Someone who works for the casino was in on it.



From TFA: Police have charged three men with aggravated robbery and related crimes in the case. One of them, Ronald Jones, was at the West Side casino on the night of Hayes' big win.

Sounds like it was just a bad guy hanging out at the casino who saw this guy walk out with $35K in cash, and did what bad guys do with that kind of information. I seriously doubt the casino would be dumb enough to hire a thug who was at the casino when the guy won.
 
2013-01-13 02:18:11 AM
Guy I used to work with would argue that taking the cash was the only way to go, he was convinced that if you took cash then the govt wouldn't know about it so no tax, nothing we could say would convince him that cash or check was all the same when dealing with a licensed casino.

/of course he also believed that if you posted some declaration or the other in the paper it would free you from paying income tax anyway so....
 
2013-01-13 02:24:02 AM

serial_crusher: "It was a year's salary, all in one night," he said.

Doesn't sound like this guys been doing too well in the luck department prior to his winning streak though, subby.


That's about $20 an hour if you do 40-hour weeks, which ain't bad.
 
2013-01-13 02:24:49 AM
dang what a deal
 
2013-01-13 02:26:42 AM
He said he didn't know you could get a check until after the cashier had stapled the brick of money in a manila envelope.

Cashier didn't feel the need to mention that little tidbit?
 
2013-01-13 02:28:02 AM

Pribar: Guy I used to work with would argue that taking the cash was the only way to go, he was convinced that if you took cash then the govt wouldn't know about it so no tax, nothing we could say would convince him that cash or check was all the same when dealing with a licensed casino.

/of course he also believed that if you posted some declaration or the other in the paper it would free you from paying income tax anyway so....


I won a decent jackpot ($2,200) down in Tunica, MS last year. The attendant asked me for my driver's license and SS# so I gave it to him. It took about half an hour to get my money. I asked him why it took so long and he told me that (1) they fill out the IRS stuff FOR you and automatically submit it, and (2) they run a background check on you. Apparently if you owe Uncle Sam money or you're in arears with child support, they subtract what you owe.
 
2013-01-13 02:28:14 AM

serial_crusher: "It was a year's salary, all in one night," he said.

Doesn't sound like this guys been doing too well in the luck department prior to his winning streak though, subby.


I'd have to check, but I think that's around the median income for a single person in the US. Don't get me wrong, it's not great. However, if someone handed me a good chunk of my yearly salary, I would not complain.
 
2013-01-13 02:28:18 AM

serial_crusher: "It was a year's salary, all in one night," he said.

Doesn't sound like this guys been doing too well in the luck department prior to his winning streak though, subby.


You sound old, from a different age.
 
2013-01-13 02:29:03 AM
"I look at it as, I lost $1,000, which is what I played with," he said. "I kept my life, and I got a manila envelope."

...That's a pretty healthy attitude.
 
2013-01-13 02:30:18 AM
He said he didn't know you could get a check until after the cashier had stapled the brick of money in a manila envelope.


Was it this or did he not want to have to report a sudden $35800 to a significant other, the IRS, etc? Cash is, as they say, untraceable, yes?
 
2013-01-13 02:31:35 AM

juvandy: Was it this or did he not want to have to report a sudden $35800 to a significant other, the IRS, etc? Cash is, as they say, untraceable, yes?


The casino reports your winnings to the IRS.
 
2013-01-13 02:32:23 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Um, was the money not recovered?  Can't they garnish the money from the perps?


Article says one of the thugs is still at large. He's probably go it.
 
2013-01-13 02:35:05 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: He said he didn't know you could get a check until after the cashier had stapled the brick of money in a manila envelope.

Cashier didn't feel the need to mention that little tidbit?


I doubt that's how the transaction went. It sounds like he's trying to pass the blame around and lessen his responsibility.

speaking from experience, you're being offered a check anything over 5k.

every place probably has different policies and thresholds for that, but the majority of cashiers would rather you take a check so that they don't have to count out that money.

and most likely, the cage supervisor is in charge of doling out a cage check, so the responsibility (and paper work) falls on the supervisor now for an accurate transaction (as opposed to the hourly cashier).

also, 35k out of your drawer now means that you'll have to do some sort of emergency credit from the casino bank (replenishment).

paying out large amounts of cash is a pain in the ass for the cashier.
 
2013-01-13 02:35:23 AM

RequiemHC: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Um, was the money not recovered?  Can't they garnish the money from the perps?

Article says one of the thugs is still at large. He's probably go it.


Even better, he went back to the casino and turned that $35k into a cool mil.
 
2013-01-13 02:39:08 AM
Ohio amended its constitution to build this casino. Enumerated rights and redneck gambling. We decide your president.
 
2013-01-13 02:45:03 AM

juvandy: He said he didn't know you could get a check until after the cashier had stapled the brick of money in a manila envelope.


Was it this or did he not want to have to report a sudden $35800 to a significant other, the IRS, etc? Cash is, as they say, untraceable, yes?


TFA says the casino automatically reports anything over 1.2k.
 
2013-01-13 02:46:15 AM
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2013-01-13 02:47:41 AM

redmid17: serial_crusher: "It was a year's salary, all in one night," he said.

Doesn't sound like this guys been doing too well in the luck department prior to his winning streak though, subby.

I'd have to check, but I think that's around the median income for a single person in the US. Don't get me wrong, it's not great. However, if someone handed me a good chunk of my yearly salary, I would not complain.


Median income is around $50k. Around here (Mississippi) he'd be doing pretty well off.
 
2013-01-13 02:51:16 AM
more likely than his version (of the cashier not offering a check) was that he wanted to feel like a big shot and walk around with all that money on him.

even if he was going to the bank the next morning or hitting an atm on the drive home, he was more interested in wanting to tell people that for one night, he had 35k in his pocket.

and yes, it's no different than having a check, but for him, psychologically it was more fulfilling to have the cash.
 
2013-01-13 02:55:27 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Ohio amended its constitution to build this casino. Enumerated rights and redneck gambling. We decide your president.


Can you give 1 good reason why people should be prohibited from gambling, gambling addiction or a reduced mental state notwithstanding?
 
2013-01-13 02:56:09 AM

TerminalEchoes: Apparently if you owe Uncle Sam money or you're in arears with child support, they subtract what you owe.


yup, also if you were previously on welfare lotto gets intercepted to pay that back
 
2013-01-13 02:58:39 AM

Stibium: redmid17: serial_crusher: "It was a year's salary, all in one night," he said.

Doesn't sound like this guys been doing too well in the luck department prior to his winning streak though, subby.

I'd have to check, but I think that's around the median income for a single person in the US. Don't get me wrong, it's not great. However, if someone handed me a good chunk of my yearly salary, I would not complain.

Median income is around $50k. Around here (Mississippi) he'd be doing pretty well off.


Average household is 46K. Average family is 54K. Average male 25 or older is 39K. He's not the richest man on the block, but he's not doing well. 40K will do you just fine in most of the country, even larger cities. The huge cities like NYC, LA, Houston, Atlanta, and Chicago are the outliers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_Joe#Income
 
2013-01-13 02:59:17 AM

UsikFark: juvandy: He said he didn't know you could get a check until after the cashier had stapled the brick of money in a manila envelope.


Was it this or did he not want to have to report a sudden $35800 to a significant other, the IRS, etc? Cash is, as they say, untraceable, yes?

TFA says the casino automatically reports anything over 1.2k.


1.2? Lucky sumbiatches, in all other transactions it's anything over $600 with a single party.

Also, $36K as an annual wage is nothing to sneeze at no matter where you live, unless you choose to live in an affluent suburb. That's nearly the US median. With good money management that could buy you a nice home almost anywhere, although gambling in a casino isn't particularly good money management.
 
2013-01-13 03:21:45 AM
I'm curious as to how the casino plans to deal with their henchmen now that they've been caught.
 
2013-01-13 03:31:31 AM

NephilimNexus: I'm curious as to how the casino plans to deal with their henchmen now that they've been caught.


A ball-peen hammer.
 
2013-01-13 03:36:55 AM

Smeggy Smurf: Dumb for carrying enough cash that the pigs could have seized it as drug money.

/totally unrelated my wife is trying to ban me from fark because I said I was going to fark her brains out
//real life filterpwned
///help


Hire some help dude.

Isn't there a Home Depot nearby?
 
2013-01-13 03:50:53 AM

starsrift: "I look at it as, I lost $1,000, which is what I played with," he said. "I kept my life, and I got a manila envelope."

...That's a pretty healthy attitude.


Gotta give the man credit. If I lost that much money I'd be looking for a rope and a low hanging branch.
 
2013-01-13 03:55:39 AM
lol atleast they got the guys. he can now sue them
 
2013-01-13 04:03:11 AM
he said. "I kept my life, and I got a manila envelope."

Translation: next time, Imma get a certified check.
 
2013-01-13 04:05:51 AM
These crooks just hanging around the casino probably felt like they hit the jackpot when the guy opted for a cash payout.
 
2013-01-13 04:07:10 AM
I'm sure the cashier who took his info had absolutely nothing at all to do with this... whatsoever.
 
2013-01-13 04:27:39 AM
I remember getting stuck in traffic coming from Shreveport one day and everyone was being diverted all the way over to highway 80.

Story I got, I-20 was shutdown because someone had crossed over and crashed into a tanker truck and the highway was shutdown both ways somewhere far from any feed roads. The person who'd crossed over had won some hefty chunk of change at the casinos.

And that's what I think of when you talk about someone's luck running out.
 
2013-01-13 04:38:16 AM

skinink: These crooks just hanging around the casino probably felt like they hit the jackpot when the guy opted for a cash payout.


That's why you NEVER take cash or sleep. Either or.

If you win $35K and you want cash, wait till 8AM and call your friends. The ones with more guns than friends.
 
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