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2013-01-12 11:48:36 PM  
Now all we need is porn of it.
 
2013-01-12 11:53:18 PM  
That could also come in handy if you drink too much.
 
2013-01-12 11:53:45 PM  
I would sit at an all-you-can-eat buffet all day long until I filled up a couple five-gallon buckets.
 
2013-01-13 12:18:06 AM  
Well it worked for me, I stopped browsing for thin mints recipes after reading that. I think tomorrow's carrot cake is off the menu as well.
 
2013-01-13 12:44:32 AM  
I'll sell you a uvula-tickling feather for half of what he's asking.
 
2013-01-13 01:10:44 AM  

brap: I'll sell you a uvula-tickling feather for half of what he's asking.


i'd rather get a uvula-ectomy. frkker always gets swollen when i purge.
 
2013-01-13 01:13:22 AM  
That guy owns an island just off the coast here.  Declared it a sovereign country.  He built a reproduction Stonehenge on it.  Lives in a 19th century Lighthouse.  It is a pretty cool place from what I hear and have seen.
 
2013-01-13 01:25:22 AM  
I'd rather see tech going this direction, than some sort of genetically-designed tapeworm that exists solely to keep you under 20% body fat.
 
2013-01-13 01:36:00 AM  

Bladel: I'd rather see tech going this direction, than some sort of genetically-designed tapeworm that exists solely to keep you under 20% body fat.


Or an ingredient that makes you shart everything out before it's fully digested.

cr4.globalspec.com
 
2013-01-13 02:30:09 AM  
Is installing a pre-digestive collostomy bag really that much less of a hassle than just not stuffing your gaping cakehole with a case of Ho-hos every time you have a stray negative emotion?

What's next? Titanium cranial implants for those of us who just can't resist shooting ourselves in the head every 10 minutes? I mean WTF, people!?

tagsgf.com
 
2013-01-13 03:02:57 AM  
I WFH four days a week, I'm old, and diabetes runs in the family.  My doctor told me I was creeping up into pre-diabetes levels of fasting blood sugar and that I should start exercising more (I already went to the gym three times a week) and lose some more weight.  I was flabbergasted, because I put in at least an hour at the gym.  The doctor said it wasn't enough, especially with the family history.

So three weeks ago I bought a bargain basement treadmill from Amazon and built a treadmill desk.  I've lost 8 pounds so far without ever even breaking a sweat. I keep the treadmill at 1.5 or 2 mph and walk for about four to five hours a day without even noticing it.

I'm on it right now, just because it's easy.  You don't notice that you're exercising, and you can start and stop whenever the hell you feel like.  I intend to create something a little more permanent once my stand-up desk comes in (I'll have to disassemble the treadmill to move the control panel to the desk), but here's how it is right now:

img204.imageshack.us

All for less than $400.  It's not fancy, you can't run on it, but it does exactly what I want it to do - provide mindless exercise I don't have to think about while I'm working.  I'm going to suggest my office puts in some more expensive commercial models for our employees downtown.  And if I feel like taking a break, and I can just move the laptop over to the real desk.  I hope during my next visit to the doctor that there's marked improvement in my blood sugar.

The only downside is that you need room for it, but I'd still consider doing it even in a small space.  The treadmill folds up so you can put it against a wall, so if I really had to create more room, I could.
 
2013-01-13 03:04:06 AM  
so you squirt in water to replace what you took out?
how about drinking a BIG glass of water 20 mins before you eat?

/fatty
 
2013-01-13 03:17:49 AM  

namatad: how about drinking a BIG glass of water 20 mins before you eat?


Nobody can sell you unnecessary, expensive-ass equipment then.. You commie bastard, take your anti-capitalism rants elsewhere!!
 
2013-01-13 04:15:08 AM  

Lsherm: I was flabbergasted, because I put in at least an hour at the gym.


Sorry, I meant each time I went, not per week.
 
2013-01-13 05:50:51 AM  
Rules 34?
 
2013-01-13 06:07:21 AM  
I enjoy food, so I became comfortable with not being lusted after by strangers. Life has become more tolerable as a result.

//6'3", 240 lbs. Not bad. Not great. Whatever. I truly eat a pizza, rather than simply consume it.
 
2013-01-13 06:07:38 AM  
Wow. That's like high tech Bulimia.
 
2013-01-13 06:07:58 AM  

Fear_and_Loathing: That guy owns an island just off the coast here.  Declared it a sovereign country.  He built a reproduction Stonehenge on it.  Lives in a 19th century Lighthouse.  It is a pretty cool place from what I hear and have seen.


He claimed to have declared it sovereign because the state (Mass.?) wouldn't give him a permit to build a wind turbine so that he could generate his own power.
 
2013-01-13 06:15:35 AM  

Lsherm: I WFH four days a week, I'm old, and diabetes runs in the family.  My doctor told me I was creeping up into pre-diabetes levels of fasting blood sugar and that I should start exercising more (I already went to the gym three times a week) and lose some more weight.  I was flabbergasted, because I put in at least an hour at the gym.  The doctor said it wasn't enough, especially with the family history.

So three weeks ago I bought a bargain basement treadmill from Amazon and built a treadmill desk.  I've lost 8 pounds so far without ever even breaking a sweat. I keep the treadmill at 1.5 or 2 mph and walk for about four to five hours a day without even noticing it.

I'm on it right now, just because it's easy.  You don't notice that you're exercising, and you can start and stop whenever the hell you feel like.  I intend to create something a little more permanent once my stand-up desk comes in (I'll have to disassemble the treadmill to move the control panel to the desk), but here's how it is right now:

[img204.imageshack.us image 454x900]

All for less than $400.  It's not fancy, you can't run on it, but it does exactly what I want it to do - provide mindless exercise I don't have to think about while I'm working.  I'm going to suggest my office puts in some more expensive commercial models for our employees downtown.  And if I feel like taking a break, and I can just move the laptop over to the real desk.  I hope during my next visit to the doctor that there's marked improvement in my blood sugar.

The only downside is that you need room for it, but I'd still consider doing it even in a small space.  The treadmill folds up so you can put it against a wall, so if I really had to create more room, I could.


Neat idea. Cheap as used treadmills are thou never buy a new one.
 
2013-01-13 06:16:08 AM  

cowgirl toffee: Wow. That's like high tech Bulimia.


not "like",

IS
 
2013-01-13 06:16:41 AM  
v002o.popscreen.com

xanadian: Now all we need is porn of it.


With lots of girlie mans.
 
2013-01-13 06:18:38 AM  

Lsherm: I WFH four days a week, I'm old, and diabetes runs in the family.  My doctor told me I was creeping up into pre-diabetes levels of fasting blood sugar and that I should start exercising more (I already went to the gym three times a week) and lose some more weight.  I was flabbergasted, because I put in at least an hour at the gym.  The doctor said it wasn't enough, especially with the family history.


The problem is WHAT you do at the gym is far more important than how long you spend there. When I was going to a traditional gym for exercise (now I just practice my sport) sometimes the warm-up was longer than the work out itself. For example, 10 minutes of interval sprints, or maybe a set of tabata burpees (4 minutes) is a better, more effective, and more complete workout than an hour jogging.

Or, if you are going to spend an hour at the gym, you are much better off lifting heavy weights, doing Starting Strength or something similar.

So three weeks ago I bought a bargain basement treadmill from Amazon and built a treadmill desk.  I've lost 8 pounds so far without ever even breaking a sweat. I keep the treadmill at 1.5 or 2 mph and walk for about four to five hours a day without even noticing it.

I'm on it right now, just because it's easy.  You don't notice that you're exercising, and you can start and stop whenever the hell you feel like.  I intend to create something a little more permanent once my stand-up desk comes in (I'll have to disassemble the treadmill to move the control panel to the desk), but here's how it is right now:

[img204.imageshack.us image 454x900]

All for less than $400.  It's not fancy, you can't run on it, but it does exactly what I want it to do - provide mindless exercise I don't have to think about while I'm working.  I'm going to suggest my office puts in some more expensive commercial models for our employees downtown.  And if I feel like taking a break, and I can just move the laptop over to the real desk.  I hope during my next visit to the doctor that there's marked improvement in my blood sugar.

The only downside is that you need room for it, but I'd still consider doing it even in a small space.  The treadmill folds up so you can put it against a wall, so if I really had to create more room, I could.


This is farking brilliant, and it really does work. In fact, from what I have managed to cobble together, for keeping you healthy long-term it works better than even a top-notch exercise regimen. I am hoping more people move to working at treadmill desks, to the point where they eventually become common place enough for manufacturers to design and build space efficient models at a reasonable price.

I am half-way there, I cobbled together a standing desk for work out of some relatively cheap Ikea parts. I picked up a bar seat while I was there that I use to sit in when I need a break from standing. From what I have heard though, it is actually easier and more comfortable to walk at a slow pace than it is to stand for a length of time. At home I mounted my monitor on the wall at standing height and then a drop leaf table bar height. I fold it down when I am not using it.

I've thought about trying to build an unpowered, low-profile, small footprint style treadmill about the size of the mat I currently stand on, but I am lazy and never really get past the thinking stage. Fantastic work though, I love what you've done and it will pay off major dividends for you (sounds like it already has).
 
2013-01-13 06:21:18 AM  
Don't empty the pump when you're done. Instead take a tube, run it from the pump into a colostomy bag, and then empty it. That way you can at least pretend you digested your meal.
 
2013-01-13 06:23:01 AM  
I believe that there are people for whom it is not as simple as don't eat so much, and I think we have far too much acrimony toward people who eat too much. I don't see it so much here as in the Gizmodo comments and in life in general.

The experience I always relate to people is that due to taking, at separate times, Zyprexa and Seroquel, I know that it is possible for the human body to demand of you to eat in such a way that resistance is both futile and painful. And I have to imagine that for people who overeat to become morbidly obese, there must be some powerful force at play that is beyond our ability to empathize with. When I took Zyprexa at a small dosage, I gained 60 lbs in a matter of months. I was switched to Seroquel, which caused less weight gain, but to this day, after I take my dose, I get insatiable cravings. I'm slowly withdrawing off of it, and it's gotten better, but the worst times were ones where if I didn't eat after taking it, I would fall asleep in fits, having some sort of seizure like activity in my head. And if I could fall asleep, I would wake back up again (which is hard to do in a Seroquel haze) with my body insisting that I eat. I've eaten things after taking Seroquel at night that I couldn't force feed myself in the day. In fact, since being on Seroquel, I've come to get most of my day's calories in the couple of hours after taking it and before going to sleep. In the day I feel disgusted from having binged. And I am not a binge-eater (I mean in practice I suppose I am, but I am not diagnosed as such). I have never been overweight before taking this medication or Zyprexa.

I know what normal appetite feels like. I know the feeling of "I could take it or leave it." And I know what it feels like when the body absolutely insists on eating. The makers of Seroquel put out a statement saying people who get cravings on it should take two glasses of water before taking it. But that's not what the body wants after taking it. It's very specific: it wants sugar and fat, preferably together. More sugar than fat, but both. And what is somewhat odd and scary is that it's not only a mental desire for food, but the stomach feels like an indefinitely large pit that cannot be filled. During the day, I can feel physical fullness, but two glasses of water doesn't matter after Seroquel. After Seroquel, it's like the stomach feels physically relaxed and opens up to be a bottomless pit. And while relaxed physically, it also is paradoxically uncomfortable in that it can never get full feeling.

I want to point out that I don't have unhealthy foods in the house. So, I end up eating just huge amounts of anything I can get. Blueberries mostly, along with almond butter or peanut butter. Any strange combination of things. But I'll get it and eat it and have to right back to the kitchen until I fall asleep.

All this is to say that while I don't know what a typical morbidly obese person feels, and while I am only overweight (230 lbs, 6'3")-not obese, I know what interminable hunger feels like. And I think that there must be something that causes it that we don't understand. Because if I felt 24x7 like I do in the hours after my Seroquel dose, I could see how I would get to be 400-600 lbs. But as it is, I couldn't physically do it.

I don't think most of us could physically tolerate eating the amount it requires to get that fat. And I think if you recognize that, you can develop an empathy with people who are so overweight. It's not like most people, if they really did what they wanted to, would sit around and eat as much as is required to become that obese. It's not a desire we have. For some people of normal weight, there's a lot of daily willpower to get there. But I think for most of us to stay in the normal weight/overweight category does not require a lot of willpower. It comes naturally. I don't think humans have that much willpower, and I don't think we can demand it of obese people.

I know that if I had to lose weight from as a 600 lb person and felt what I do after I take Seroquel, I would need something else besides food, morphine or something, to make that hunger pain go away.
 
2013-01-13 06:34:03 AM  
Sounds like too much work. Me, I had gastric bypass, so now if I eat too much or too fast, or I eat sweets, I get sick. Lost more than half my body weight.
Of course you could upholster a Lazy-boy with my loose skin...so that's a down side.

/up side is that I probably added thirty years to my life
//no longer being a 450 pound freak is nice too
 
2013-01-13 06:43:02 AM  

BigBooper: Sounds like too much work. Me, I had gastric bypass, so now if I eat too much or too fast, or I eat sweets, I get sick. Lost more than half my body weight.
Of course you could upholster a Lazy-boy with my loose skin...so that's a down side.

/up side is that I probably added thirty years to my life
//no longer being a 450 pound freak is nice too


Congrats. Can cosmetic surgery assist with the skin situation?
 
2013-01-13 06:48:25 AM  
So will this increase or decrease the amount of fat chicks? It could go either way.

/eyebleach stock
 
2013-01-13 07:02:32 AM  

phenn: Congrats. Can cosmetic surgery assist with the skin situation?


Yea. And I did have some removed around my waist. The problem is that any skin removal is cosmetic, so I pay 100%. Before the surgery I was a mess emotionally and physically. All snark aside, I didn't get the operation to look better, I did it for medical reasons. If someone gets to the weight I was at, they aren't going to lose it with diet and exercise. It comes down to surgical intervention, or death. One of the reasons the operation works so well is that it retrains the brain with negative feedback. If you do or eat the wrong things, you get sick. It literally breaks the reward cycle that the brain has formed with eating.

The downside is that the people who have the surgery have a high rate of addictive behavior. They can't get their fix by eating anymore, so they do it with drugs, or alcohol, or other destructive addictions . A good program will have intensive psychotherapy to help make sure that patients don't go from one addiction to another. That therapy should start well before the surgery.
 
2013-01-13 07:21:47 AM  

BigBooper: phenn: Congrats. Can cosmetic surgery assist with the skin situation?

Yea. And I did have some removed around my waist. The problem is that any skin removal is cosmetic, so I pay 100%. Before the surgery I was a mess emotionally and physically. All snark aside, I didn't get the operation to look better, I did it for medical reasons. If someone gets to the weight I was at, they aren't going to lose it with diet and exercise. It comes down to surgical intervention, or death. One of the reasons the operation works so well is that it retrains the brain with negative feedback. If you do or eat the wrong things, you get sick. It literally breaks the reward cycle that the brain has formed with eating.

The downside is that the people who have the surgery have a high rate of addictive behavior. They can't get their fix by eating anymore, so they do it with drugs, or alcohol, or other destructive addictions . A good program will have intensive psychotherapy to help make sure that patients don't go from one addiction to another. That therapy should start well before the surgery.


I dont understand how excess skin removal can be considered cosmetic. What is safe about carrying an extra 50lbs of loose skin around everyday? They really should cover removing it.
 
2013-01-13 07:28:18 AM  
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I guess chicken dog thing and lady boy are sold separately?
 
2013-01-13 07:34:16 AM  
I wonder if this isn't supposed to be a commentary on society rather than an actual medical device. Like, at the moment you're in the doctor's office, ready to have another hole put in your body so you can vomit Cheetos into a little machine rather than put the bag down a little sooner, you look back at your life and wonder where it went wrong.
 
2013-01-13 07:42:11 AM  

Jaws_Victim: I dont understand how excess skin removal can be considered cosmetic. What is safe about carrying an extra 50lbs of loose skin around everyday? They really should cover removing it.


If it doesn't cost the insurance company extra money over time - it's cosmetic.
 
2013-01-13 07:44:24 AM  

Lsherm: I WFH four days a week, I'm old, and diabetes runs in the family.  My doctor told me I was creeping up into pre-diabetes levels of fasting blood sugar and that I should start exercising more (I already went to the gym three times a week) and lose some more weight.  I was flabbergasted, because I put in at least an hour at the gym.  The doctor said it wasn't enough, especially with the family history.

So three weeks ago I bought a bargain basement treadmill from Amazon and built a treadmill desk.  I've lost 8 pounds so far without ever even breaking a sweat. I keep the treadmill at 1.5 or 2 mph and walk for about four to five hours a day without even noticing it.

I'm on it right now, just because it's easy.  You don't notice that you're exercising, and you can start and stop whenever the hell you feel like.  I intend to create something a little more permanent once my stand-up desk comes in (I'll have to disassemble the treadmill to move the control panel to the desk), but here's how it is right now:

[img204.imageshack.us image 454x900]

All for less than $400.  It's not fancy, you can't run on it, but it does exactly what I want it to do - provide mindless exercise I don't have to think about while I'm working.  I'm going to suggest my office puts in some more expensive commercial models for our employees downtown.  And if I feel like taking a break, and I can just move the laptop over to the real desk.  I hope during my next visit to the doctor that there's marked improvement in my blood sugar.

The only downside is that you need room for it, but I'd still consider doing it even in a small space.  The treadmill folds up so you can put it against a wall, so if I really had to create more room, I could.


That is really slick. Nice work. Ive been contemplating stand up desk because I do research which ends up me being in a chair 8-10 hrs a day. I also workout 1-2 hrs a day and I don't think its enough either. This would be great to keep me moving. I'm also only 5 feet tall and I have yet to find a chair/desk that isnt uncomfortable for me.

That all being said I am treating myself to bacon, eggs and hash this morning followed by a 4 mile hike. I ran the calorie count, 4 miles isn't actually enough to take care of a breakfast like that.
 
2013-01-13 07:49:34 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Neat idea. Cheap as used treadmills are thou never buy a new one.


The new one was 300 bucks, and I have every intention of taking it apart to build the desk.  I have a 1 year warranty on the motor and I couldn't get that with anything used.
 
2013-01-13 08:09:31 AM  
Eat less you stupid fat farks
 
2013-01-13 08:09:44 AM  

BigBooper: //no longer being a 450 pound freak is nice too


So are you going to change your Fark handle to "MediumsizedBooper"?
 
2013-01-13 08:18:36 AM  
Bloody opera ate my post...

What I was going to say...

Diets suck, hunger pains are a biatch, and if I can walk a three mile path around a lake twice a week at 260 Lbs (at 5'4) why are others 'my size' unable to.

Really. That was it. Oh. And that I miss cheese and bacon.
 
2013-01-13 08:22:23 AM  

swingerofbirches: ......


CSB.
 
2013-01-13 08:27:35 AM  
My own self loathing keeps my weight in check. I disgust myself with a couple extra pounds on me and when it gets up to around 20lbs I need to lose the self hatred trumps my desire for pizza and beer.
 
2013-01-13 08:36:25 AM  
I take steroids everyday, and will for the rest of my life (Addison's disease). I gained 50 lbs from the combination of fatigue (as I also had grave's disease) and hunger related to the steroids over 9 months. I finally got sick of it and started watching what I ate and went to the gym. It wasn't even as if I could exercise very hard, either, because I just didn't have the stamina I did before I got sick. And I still lost all of the weight in 6 months. Even though I have relaxed my schedule since then (another child tends to take up more time), I am still relatively healthy weight-wise. I just can't imagine how it's easier to have a colostomy bag than eat less (and better things), as well as finding some activity you enjoy doing. My grandma has had a colostomy for years, and it's the last thing I'd willingly give myself.
 
2013-01-13 08:44:27 AM  
If any of you guys are trying to lose weight or just trying to keep track, Ive been using the "Lose It!" app on the iphone. Which is free and I don't notice a whole bunch of ads. I'm trying to lose about 20 lbs in preparation for a speech I have to give on the french riveria this summer. I do a lot of public speaking and for years Ive neglected to actually buy a new suit because of this ideal that "well, next month I'll lose another 5 lbs and finally be a size 6 again". Well, I need to look good on an international stage and I'm tired of being 'pudgy' on my own national stage.

Because of my short stature, every spare ounce can be seen and I'm in a heavily competitive field of engineering and looking good is necessary. No, I'm never going to look like a Victoria's secret supermodel. But having a good appearance of taking care of myself can only help. Looking 'in shape' can give an outward appearance of 'oh, she's got it together'. Instead of 'well, she does good work'. Weight crept on during my brief stint in consulting and finalized during my master's. Some of it came off when I started working again at a real job and trying to get the rest off in round 2 of grad school.

I have used My Food Diary.com which did work and I lost about 10 lbs on it but you have to pay about $8 a month and now that I'm a grad student again, I save every penny I can. I also prefer the Lose It app. I find it much easier.

Good luck and stay healthy!
 
2013-01-13 08:45:29 AM  

bborchar: I take steroids everyday, and will for the rest of my life (Addison's disease). I gained 50 lbs from the combination of fatigue (as I also had grave's disease) and hunger related to the steroids over 9 months. I finally got sick of it and started watching what I ate and went to the gym. It wasn't even as if I could exercise very hard, either, because I just didn't have the stamina I did before I got sick. And I still lost all of the weight in 6 months. Even though I have relaxed my schedule since then (another child tends to take up more time), I am still relatively healthy weight-wise. I just can't imagine how it's easier to have a colostomy bag than eat less (and better things), as well as finding some activity you enjoy doing. My grandma has had a colostomy for years, and it's the last thing I'd willingly give myself.


This. Americans spend their time focused on food. Try this as an experiment - when you get home from work, skip dinner. You end up with a ridiculous amount of free time. Healthier on both levels.
 
2013-01-13 08:55:19 AM  
No, this isn't really a thing, is it?
 
2013-01-13 08:58:02 AM  

swingerofbirches: I believe that there are people for whom it is not as simple as don't eat so much, and I think we have far too much acrimony toward people who eat too much. I don't see it so much here as in the Gizmodo comments and in life in general.

The experience I always relate to people is that due to taking, at separate times, Zyprexa and Seroquel, I know that it is possible for the human body to demand of you to eat in such a way that resistance is both futile and painful. And I have to imagine that for people who overeat to become morbidly obese, there must be some powerful force at play that is beyond our ability to empathize with. When I took Zyprexa at a small dosage, I gained 60 lbs in a matter of months. I was switched to Seroquel, which caused less weight gain, but to this day, after I take my dose, I get insatiable cravings. I'm slowly withdrawing off of it, and it's gotten better, but the worst times were ones where if I didn't eat after taking it, I would fall asleep in fits, having some sort of seizure like activity in my head. And if I could fall asleep, I would wake back up again (which is hard to do in a Seroquel haze) with my body insisting that I eat. I've eaten things after taking Seroquel at night that I couldn't force feed myself in the day. In fact, since being on Seroquel, I've come to get most of my day's calories in the couple of hours after taking it and before going to sleep. In the day I feel disgusted from having binged. And I am not a binge-eater (I mean in practice I suppose I am, but I am not diagnosed as such). I have never been overweight before taking this medication or Zyprexa.

I know what normal appetite feels like. I know the feeling of "I could take it or leave it." And I know what it feels like when the body absolutely insists on eating. The makers of Seroquel put out a statement saying people who get cravings on it should take two glasses of water before taking it. But that's not what the body wants after taking it. It's very specific ...


You are describing exactly what I go through...It's like there's this switch in my brain that has clicked on "It's time to eat" and is never switched off. Night and day I think about food. I think about food and then I go find some and eat it. But while I'm eating the food, I feel regret that I'm not eating something else at the same time. Worse, I'll be full, physically and painfully full, but the feeling that I've eaten enough doesn't come...I'm in pain, but still I'm thinking about how I can't wait to eat again.
When I try to not eat, or just eat healthy food I start to get headaches. If I give my wife my bank card so I can't eat while I'm outside during the day, I spend the day angry, violenty angry and suffering from headaches and doubling over with strange stomach cramps.
I wish they could burn away whatever part of the brain tells you when you need to eat or are hungry...I wouldn't eat if I didn't feel so hungry all the time. I am clever enough to recognize it's not healthy, but it's like my body punishes me for not eating...I'd much rather just have to follow a schedule to eat and just forget about it entirely when it's not time to eat...Sigh....
 
2013-01-13 09:05:18 AM  
Went into a coma from a severe upper respiratory infection 1.5 years ago. I was on a ventilator for 11 days and when I woke up my muscles had turned to goo. Because of immobility, corticosteroids and pretty much being a fat fark to begin with I put on 60lbs. I have lost 45 lbs in 3 months by watching everything I eat (very low carb) and hitting the gym 6 days per week. As someone else pointed out in a post above-self-loathing is an excellent motivator.
 
2013-01-13 09:06:52 AM  

Coastalgrl: If any of you guys are trying to lose weight or just trying to keep track, Ive been using the "Lose It!" app on the iphone. Which is free and I don't notice a whole bunch of ads. I'm trying to lose about 20 lbs in preparation for a speech I have to give on the french riveria this summer. I do a lot of public speaking and for years Ive neglected to actually buy a new suit because of this ideal that "well, next month I'll lose another 5 lbs and finally be a size 6 again". Well, I need to look good on an international stage and I'm tired of being 'pudgy' on my own national stage.

Because of my short stature, every spare ounce can be seen and I'm in a heavily competitive field of engineering and looking good is necessary. No, I'm never going to look like a Victoria's secret supermodel. But having a good appearance of taking care of myself can only help. Looking 'in shape' can give an outward appearance of 'oh, she's got it together'. Instead of 'well, she does good work'. Weight crept on during my brief stint in consulting and finalized during my master's. Some of it came off when I started working again at a real job and trying to get the rest off in round 2 of grad school.

I have used My Food Diary.com which did work and I lost about 10 lbs on it but you have to pay about $8 a month and now that I'm a grad student again, I save every penny I can. I also prefer the Lose It app. I find it much easier.

Good luck and stay healthy!


Thank you for the advice! Unfortunately I'm one of three crackberry users in the us, but I'll definitely see if it's available for it! Glad to hear you've had some success!
 
2013-01-13 09:07:16 AM  
Went from 6'4" 389 to 250 without much hassle and didn't use the gym for the first few months. Two people I work with got gastric bypass. One had horrible complications and spent three months in the hospital before he could leave to pass the leak test. And both have lost around the same amount of weight I have. Hunger pains suck but so does being fat. Food choices make all the difference and cardio just helps that little bit more. Drop the soda and drink some water, most people would notice a big difference just from that.
 
2013-01-13 09:09:13 AM  
How about the actual Popsci link instead of this stupid, gawker bullshiat? Why do we still get this trash?
 
2013-01-13 09:10:17 AM  

swingerofbirches: I believe that there are people for whom it is not as simple as don't eat so much, and I think we have far too much acrimony toward people who eat too much. I don't see it so much here as in the Gizmodo comments and in life in general.

*snip*

I'd insert the "Welcome To Fark" photo here if I had it...

Seriously, I found that losing weight after age 40 (or whenever the body naturally lowers its metaboloism) involved months of continuous hunger. Not just episodic hunger, but deep, abiding hunger, pillow-hugging hunger, a constant tormentor.

I'm not sure I would have been able to sustain that will-to-weight-loss, though, if I'd been under the influence of psychoactive drugs. So I can see your point.
 
2013-01-13 09:11:09 AM  

Wolf892: swingerofbirches: I believe that there are people for whom it is not as simple as don't eat so much, and I think we have far too much acrimony toward people who eat too much. I don't see it so much here as in the Gizmodo comments and in life in general.

The experience I always relate to people is that due to taking, at separate times, Zyprexa and Seroquel, I know that it is possible for the human body to demand of you to eat in such a way that resistance is both futile and painful. And I have to imagine that for people who overeat to become morbidly obese, there must be some powerful force at play that is beyond our ability to empathize with. When I took Zyprexa at a small dosage, I gained 60 lbs in a matter of months. I was switched to Seroquel, which caused less weight gain, but to this day, after I take my dose, I get insatiable cravings. I'm slowly withdrawing off of it, and it's gotten better, but the worst times were ones where if I didn't eat after taking it, I would fall asleep in fits, having some sort of seizure like activity in my head. And if I could fall asleep, I would wake back up again (which is hard to do in a Seroquel haze) with my body insisting that I eat. I've eaten things after taking Seroquel at night that I couldn't force feed myself in the day. In fact, since being on Seroquel, I've come to get most of my day's calories in the couple of hours after taking it and before going to sleep. In the day I feel disgusted from having binged. And I am not a binge-eater (I mean in practice I suppose I am, but I am not diagnosed as such). I have never been overweight before taking this medication or Zyprexa.

I know what normal appetite feels like. I know the feeling of "I could take it or leave it." And I know what it feels like when the body absolutely insists on eating. The makers of Seroquel put out a statement saying people who get cravings on it should take two glasses of water before taking it. But that's not what the body wants after taking it. It's very specific ...

You are describing exactly what I go through...It's like there's this switch in my brain that has clicked on "It's time to eat" and is never switched off. Night and day I think about food. I think about food and then I go find some and eat it. But while I'm eating the food, I feel regret that I'm not eating something else at the same time. Worse, I'll be full, physically and painfully full, but the feeling that I've eaten enough doesn't come...I'm in pain, but still I'm thinking about how I can't wait to eat again.
When I try to not eat, or just eat healthy food I start to get headaches. If I give my wife my bank card so I can't eat while I'm outside during the day, I spend the day angry, violenty angry and suffering from headaches and doubling over with strange stomach cramps.
I wish they could burn away whatever part of the brain tells you when you need to eat or are hungry...I wouldn't eat if I didn't feel so hungry all the time. I am clever enough to recognize it's not healthy, but it's like my body punishes me for not eating...I'd much rather just have to follow a schedule to eat and just forget about it entirely when it's not time to eat...Sigh....


I feel your pain, I really do. I ate 30 minutes ago and my body is yelling starvation mode at me. It's the single hardest thing I have yet to cope with.

Dealing with that makes handling nicotine cravings a breeze. I sometimes think that switch is sometimes being neglected when I attempt a new diet...
 
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