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(The New York Times)   He hasn't been everywhere, after all. World's greatest living travel writer reveals the places he longs to visit, by car, including Alaska, Montana, and the Dakotas   (travel.nytimes.com) divider line 53
    More: Interesting, Alaska, Dakotas, Henry Miller, Patagonia, lecture hall, John Steinbeck, Jack Kerouac  
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2013-01-12 01:30:40 PM
This whole thing is like one big "I've never played this game, or that game, and my ski gloves are getting kind of old..." Christmas hint. Hint hint NYT readers. Hint hint.
 
2013-01-12 02:04:50 PM
Never miss a book or tv show with Louis Theroux!
 
2013-01-12 03:24:06 PM
camerainthesun.com
 
2013-01-12 03:27:03 PM
I'm a fan of Tim Cahill, myself.
 
2013-01-12 03:28:11 PM
Also would have liked to have seen Montana.

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2013-01-12 03:30:30 PM
I too would like to visit Alaska, Montana, and some other places.
 
2013-01-12 03:31:38 PM
Not many people think of Best Dakota as a tourism destination, but there is some cool stuff in the western part, like Theodore Roosevelt national Park.
 
2013-01-12 03:33:19 PM
Everybody needs a road trip.
 
2013-01-12 03:36:07 PM
I've driven through 41 states so far.

Still have to get New England. Hawaii will be the challenge.
 
2013-01-12 03:37:27 PM
the real people of Montana would like you to take us off your bucket list. Please. go to Sun Valley ... or Jackson Hole. Fake places full of fake people.
 
2013-01-12 03:41:32 PM

darkvstar: the real people of Montana would like you to take us off your bucket list. Please. go to Sun Valley ... or Jackson Hole. Fake places full of fake people.


You mean those cowboys working at McDonald's saying "Howdy, Pardner!" were real?
 
2013-01-12 03:48:03 PM
I've been to 21 countries, and 45 states. I drove up to Deadhorse Alaska from Boston in a '89 Honda civic, and it was one of the best trips I've ever taken. Until you hit the Rockies man is it a boring trip, but once you do it's incredible. 11,000 miles and over $2,000 in gas plus 4 spare tires (yes, I used them all - although I hear the Dalton Highway from Fairbanks to Deadhorse is paved now so you probably wouldn't need 4 now), all totally worth it.

/hit 300,000 miles about 100 miles north of the Arctic Circle.
 
2013-01-12 03:52:49 PM
Some of the best memories I've ever had involve road trips. Just miles and miles of miles and miles and nothing to do but listen to the radio and talk. Or not talk. I'm convinced that my husband and I will stay married forever because of a five-day trip we took not long after our son was born. (The baby came too.)

Heck, I'd love to do a coast-to-coast road trip someday just to see what there is out there.
 
2013-01-12 03:53:58 PM

bentleypm: think of Best Dakota as a tourism destination, but there is some cool stuff in the western part, like Theodore Roosevelt


Yeah, the western parts of both Dakotas are pretty good. The centers are okay if you stick to the river area, but the eastern parts are worthless outside of the "cities". and nobody's going to the Dakota for the "cities".

/Originally from one of the "cities".
 
2013-01-12 03:59:28 PM

bentleypm: Not many people think of Best Dakota as a tourism destination, but there is some cool stuff in the western part, like Theodore Roosevelt national Park.


I prefer the term "Greater Dakota"  opposed to "Lesser Dakota" down south.
 
2013-01-12 03:59:50 PM
i14.photobucket.com
My favorite photo of thousands I took in Montana
 
2013-01-12 04:07:05 PM
fta I want to see them, not flying in but traveling slowly on the ground, keeping to back roads, and defying the general rule of "Never eat at a place called Mom's, never play cards with a man called Doc ..."

Been there, done that. And it's a pretty great way to see the country. I liked scanning the local am radio shows, learning that the boy scout troop is having a car wash and Martha is having a garage sale. Avoid chain hotels, avoid chain restaurants, go to every local festival, and you'll meet a lot of people and have a great time.
 
2013-01-12 04:07:11 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: I've driven through 41 states so far.

Still have to get New England. Hawaii will be the challenge.



Make sure to roll up your windows.
 
2013-01-12 04:08:58 PM

Notabunny: fta I want to see them, not flying in but traveling slowly on the ground, keeping to back roads, and defying the general rule of "Never eat at a place called Mom's, never play cards with a man called Doc ..."

Been there, done that. And it's a pretty great way to see the country. I liked scanning the local am radio shows, learning that the boy scout troop is having a car wash and Martha is having a garage sale. Avoid chain hotels, avoid chain restaurants, go to every local festival, and you'll meet a lot of people and have a great time.


Good advice.
 
2013-01-12 04:09:27 PM

Gunny Walker: Lenny_da_Hog: I've driven through 41 states so far.

Still have to get New England. Hawaii will be the challenge.


Make sure to roll up your windows.


Pack a lunch too, unless you want seafood.
 
2013-01-12 04:11:04 PM
F*ckin' tourists...
 
2013-01-12 04:14:58 PM
And one of my favs from Montana (Glacier Park of course)

Note the fire service cabin on the top.

i208.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-12 04:18:42 PM

bentleypm: Not many people think of Best Dakota as a tourism destination, but there is some cool stuff in the western part, like Theodore Roosevelt national Park.


Now with more strippers!
 
2013-01-12 04:19:49 PM
I'll just leave these here. "I've Been Everywhere," versions by Hank Snow, Johnny Cash, and the Australian original by Lucky Starr. (Sorry, but I feel I'd be slighting somebody if I left any of the three of 'em out.)
 
2013-01-12 04:20:27 PM
I hear the Dakotas are way better than Montana. Like so scenic and awesome that they had to make two of them. So don't come to Montana.
 
2013-01-12 04:33:23 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: darkvstar: the real people of Montana would like you to take us off your bucket list. Please. go to Sun Valley ... or Jackson Hole. Fake places full of fake people.

You mean those cowboys working at McDonald's saying "Howdy, Pardner!" were real?


depends
where were you?
out on the plains, the kid shoveling your fries probably goes home to feed the cattle or check the back 40 on his ATV before going to bed, only to get up, milk the cow and then head off to school.
 
2013-01-12 04:34:51 PM
He's seen alligator farms and tarantula ranches but there's still one place he's gotta see...

Albequerque
 
2013-01-12 04:36:51 PM
Yes, but his nephew is porking Jennifer Aniston, so there's that.
 
2013-01-12 04:39:14 PM
I completely agree with the writer. I've been all over the world and have seen many cultures and great cities. Personally, I've concluded that all cities, everywhere are increasingly identical and boring. The places I've liked the best are rural.

My favs in order: Northern Manitoba and Saskatchewan, Central Finland, North Dakota. You can keep your Kowloon, Paris, and NYC--bleh.
 
2013-01-12 04:42:38 PM
I was driving through South Dakota and into Wyoming and where the Rockies start is a wall that is climbed by switchbacks and at every corner people hang gliding.

In the northeast plains areas there were these 3 foot high fences with little metal signs on the fence and so after I got done peeing I went over to read one and it said something like you are on a Department of Defense nuclear weapons facility and deadly force has been approved to deal with intruders. So some poor bastard probably had to watch me drain the anaconda.
 
2013-01-12 04:50:21 PM
MT, June 2012


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Supercell over Flathead National Forest


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Beartooth Highway


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Little Big Horn

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SD, June 2012


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Spearfish

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Lake Pactola/Black Hills

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Dead Slave Owner
 
2013-01-12 04:50:56 PM
How did "your mom" NOT make this list???
 
2013-01-12 05:26:21 PM
My wife and I drove to Alaska last summer, sold the car, and flew home. Fantastic trip. We didn't have months and months to wander along the way, but we did keep the daily travel down to 300 miles or so once we reached the Rockies.
 
2013-01-12 05:34:06 PM
Meh. He's no Rick Steves.
 
2013-01-12 05:48:30 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
It's a lot of fun to go down on a bike.
www.turrettours.com
But bring something warm.
 
2013-01-12 05:56:01 PM
The Dakotas and Hawaii are the only 3 states I have not been to.
 
2013-01-12 06:09:40 PM
Montana... not many places can an hour-long stop at the top of a mountain pass be a fun thing. And that's BEFORE the mountain goat strolled by like he couldn't give a f*ck that there were 100 cars parked on the highway. Well, until the f*cking assholes GOT OUT OF THEIR CARS and started following him.

Great memories. Any great traveler should visit a place like that... the world is a lot bigger than the societies we create.
 
2013-01-12 06:20:28 PM

darkvstar: the real people of Montana would like you to take us off your bucket list. Please. go to Sun Valley ... or Jackson Hole. Fake places full of fake people.


Not true. We would love for you to come and spend a shiatload of money, have a great time, and then GTFO. You wouldn't want to be around when winter hits anyway. Oh yeah, don't forget to show your friends the pictures and tell them to drop by next summer.

/try not to get caught in Butte or Browning after dark
//real Montana person
 
2013-01-12 06:33:19 PM

Eric The Pilot: Also would have liked to have seen Montana.

www.ibiblio.org

Ftfy

 
2013-01-12 06:38:46 PM

USAF Retired: [i14.photobucket.com image 800x564]
My favorite photo of thousands I took in Montana


In modern times, we're lucky if we can get blue skies and real clouds like that. My last time in Death Valley, the chemtrail planes sprayed each day making the would be blue skies all white and ugly each day. Although one of the days I got a lenticular cloud pic in that looked just like a UFO.
 
2013-01-12 06:59:42 PM

bogey: darkvstar: the real people of Montana would like you to take us off your bucket list. Please. go to Sun Valley ... or Jackson Hole. Fake places full of fake people.

Not true. We would love for you to come and spend a shiatload of money, have a great time, and then GTFO. You wouldn't want to be around when winter hits anyway. Oh yeah, don't forget to show your friends the pictures and tell them to drop by next summer.

/try not to get caught in Butte or Browning after dark
//real Montana person


ditto
a Montana winter separates the real men from the pussies. and behind every real man is a Montana woman who can kick your ass and then go home and bake a killer apple pie.
 
2013-01-12 07:55:16 PM

darkvstar: bogey: darkvstar: the real people of Montana would like you to take us off your bucket list. Please. go to Sun Valley ... or Jackson Hole. Fake places full of fake people.

Not true. We would love for you to come and spend a shiatload of money, have a great time, and then GTFO. You wouldn't want to be around when winter hits anyway. Oh yeah, don't forget to show your friends the pictures and tell them to drop by next summer.

/try not to get caught in Butte or Browning after dark
//real Montana person

ditto
a Montana winter separates the real men from the pussies. and behind every real man is a Montana woman who can kick your ass and then go home and bake a killer apple pie.


I dont know if I'm a "real" Montana person or not, but I spent 7 great years there , I caught the big fish, killed the big deer, elk and antelope, kayaked the whitewater and wanted desperately to retire there , but my wife couldn't handle the winters...So I had to make the choice... I miss that place everyday.
 
2013-01-12 08:18:38 PM

USAF Retired: I dont know if I'm a "real" Montana person or not, but I spent 7 great years there , I caught the big fish, killed the big deer, elk and antelope, kayaked the whitewater and wanted desperately to retire there , but my wife couldn't handle the winters...So I had to make the choice... I miss that place everyday.


My aunt and uncle were born here but when they retired they got a place in Arizona. When spring comes they're back on the ranch they still own but when the weather starts to turn they head south like a couple of geese. Best of both worlds I guess.
 
2013-01-12 08:37:15 PM
Theroux's travel writings are great and I can heartily recommend 'The Pillars of Hercules' and especially 'Dark Star Safari'. Currently reading The Happy Isles of Oceana'

Tim Cahill is great, too.

Lived in Montana and travelled the Dakotas and Wyoming. There is a certain beauty to the bleakness of those states. You just have to accept it for what it is: reality/nature.

bogey: /try not to get caught in Butte or Browning after dark


Butte wasn't bad when I lived in MT (abbreviated that way because the state is 'empty of people') - early 80s - but I had accounts in Browning and was told by them in no uncertain terms to get my 'white man's butt out of town before the Sun went down.
 
2013-01-12 09:00:41 PM
I know what he means by just getting up and driving off down the road.

I've done that in 48 of the states, many times. And both coasts of Canada.

Glad I did then, because I can't afford to now. I also can't drive for any long stretch anymore.
 
2013-01-12 09:02:40 PM

bentleypm: Not many people think of Best Dakota as a tourism destination, but there is some cool stuff in the western part, like Theodore Roosevelt national Park.


I love the Dakotas. And Wyoming. Camping in Guernsey.
 
2013-01-12 09:10:21 PM

USAF Retired: darkvstar: bogey: darkvstar: the real people of Montana would like you to take us off your bucket list. Please. go to Sun Valley ... or Jackson Hole. Fake places full of fake people.

Not true. We would love for you to come and spend a shiatload of money, have a great time, and then GTFO. You wouldn't want to be around when winter hits anyway. Oh yeah, don't forget to show your friends the pictures and tell them to drop by next summer.

/try not to get caught in Butte or Browning after dark
//real Montana person

ditto
a Montana winter separates the real men from the pussies. and behind every real man is a Montana woman who can kick your ass and then go home and bake a killer apple pie.

I dont know if I'm a "real" Montana person or not, but I spent 7 great years there , I caught the big fish, killed the big deer, elk and antelope, kayaked the whitewater and wanted desperately to retire there , but my wife couldn't handle the winters...So I had to make the choice... I miss that place everyday.


yeah. me too. as said by every Montana native who had to move away because there are no phreakin jobs, goddammit.
 
2013-01-12 09:10:41 PM
One of our best drives was following the Lewis and Clark trail from Yankton to Fort AbRahman Lincoln. Wonderful country and scenery.

And a camping trip into the Badlands on another trip. Sunrise was almost religious!
 
2013-01-12 09:34:18 PM

bogey: /try not to get caught in Butte or Browning after dark
//real Montana person


What. I'm there right now and I'm fine.
 
2013-01-12 09:41:00 PM

cryinoutloud: bogey: /try not to get caught in Butte or Browning after dark
//real Montana person

What. I'm there right now and I'm fine.


It's an old flat-lander truism. Butte is a shell of its former self but I still wouldn't stop in Browning at night if my car was on fire and I had a gunshot wound.
 
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