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2013-01-12 11:29:38 AM
Well, at least they have some well respected people, like an actual meteorologist and a scientist that don't appear to be actually be following the scientific method... Oh wait there's one more...

STOP EVERYTHING!! Fox has a blogger disputing scientific facts? Why didn't anyone say so? Show's over people! It's now obvious to me that the entirety of science is a fraud, they have a blogger.
 
2013-01-12 12:48:17 PM
Is it Lemmy from Motörhead?

/holy crap. Autocorrect fixed my misspelling of Motörhead.
 
2013-01-12 01:14:10 PM
They expect a Fair and Balanced coverage where everyone gives equal time to the man who says 2012 was actually the coldest year on record because the magic fish women told him so?
 
2013-01-12 01:41:39 PM
The NRA?
 
2013-01-12 01:46:28 PM

Chariset: They expect a Fair and Balanced coverage where everyone gives equal time to the man who says 2012 was actually the coldest year on record because the magic fish women told him so?


I can hardly wait for Fox News' retrospective on the Mayan apocalypse, where they give equal time to the people who say the world ended last month.
 
2013-01-12 01:46:29 PM
I don't quite understand how something as nearly universally scientifically accepted as climate change is a politicized thing.
 
2013-01-12 02:08:28 PM

TwistedIvory: I don't quite understand how something as nearly universally scientifically accepted as climate change is a politicized thing.


In a country where even the frikkin time of day has been politicized this surprises you... how?
 
2013-01-12 02:33:27 PM
icons.wxug.com

Yeah, I'm sure there was a tiny mistake and this was a really cold year.  Those are all the years in the historical record.
 
2013-01-12 02:36:05 PM
www1.ncdc.noaa.gov

Bigger image, and link since Fark still shrinks it by about 100x100.
 
2013-01-12 03:35:16 PM
FOX is rather brilliant at arguing facts without actually using any.
 
2013-01-12 03:36:59 PM

Chariset: because the magic fish women told him so


dailycoffeenews.com

What a magic fish woman might look like.

/ suffering caffeine withdrawal
// it's the first thing that came to mind
 
2013-01-12 04:01:16 PM
www.rumproast.com

Don't question the Fox Weather Guy.
 
2013-01-12 04:02:50 PM
Remember, boys and girls -- if you can't understand the science, don't worry.  Your idiotic, uninformed opinion should be considered equally valid.
 
2013-01-12 04:16:38 PM
Charles Nelson Reilly

www.nndb.com

What do I win?
 
2013-01-12 04:34:34 PM

TwistedIvory: I don't quite understand how something as nearly universally scientifically accepted as climate change is a politicized thing.


Easy: Changes reflecting climate change would hit big business the hardest. So the message from these corporate-types comes down to the GOP, and the GOP hands off the message to Fox, which is tasked with duping rubes into claiming that climate change is a liberal fraud.

It's truly amazing that when a man has a toothache, he'll see a dentist. But when it comes to science, he'll see Fox News.
 
2013-01-12 04:38:50 PM
Winter is coming.
 
2013-01-12 04:39:13 PM
MY MIND'S MADE UP - DON'T TRY TO CONFUSE ME WITH LIBFACTS™
 
2013-01-12 04:39:25 PM
Has Kirk Cameron weighed in yet? Because I just can't know what to think without his viewpoint.
 
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2013-01-12 04:40:24 PM

dickfreckle: TwistedIvory: I don't quite understand how something as nearly universally scientifically accepted as climate change is a politicized thing.

Easy: Changes reflecting climate change would hit big business the hardest. So the message from these corporate-types comes down to the GOP, and the GOP hands off the message to Fox, which is tasked with duping rubes into claiming that climate change is a liberal fraud.

It's truly amazing that when a man has a toothache, he'll see a dentist. But when it comes to science, he'll see Fox News.


I suspect a lot of Fox viewers would see see chiropractor.
 
2013-01-12 04:41:23 PM
Hey, Fox "News," as the guys who think that the value of a coin is determined by the amount and type of metal in it, your opinions on anything, particularly scientific matters, are of no consequence. Kindly STFU.
 
2013-01-12 04:42:15 PM
Since when does Fox, or their viewers, care about facts?
 
2013-01-12 04:43:43 PM

Invisible Pedestrian: Has Kirk Cameron weighed in yet? Because I just can't know what to think without his viewpoint.


I just wonder what will happen with him when the banana crop fails due to the global climate changing.
 
2013-01-12 04:43:55 PM

dickfreckle: Easy: Changes reflecting climate change would hit big business the hardest.


Yeah, it would make them a shiatload of money. The shortsightedness of today's businesses astounds me. In case they hadn't noticed, there's a vast market for "green" shiat. Get your shiat together, hop on the global warming bandwagon, and start cranking it out. Oh, wait, that would require you to think beyond this quarter.
 
GBB
2013-01-12 04:47:48 PM

GAT_00: [www1.ncdc.noaa.gov image 850x637]

Bigger image, and link since Fark still shrinks it by about 100x100.


Cursory glance, why would January have the greatest variance, but December is steady??
 
2013-01-12 04:48:11 PM

rustypouch: Since when does Fox, or their viewers, care about facts?


I heard that! that's why i stick with the side where the agencies involved have never been caught making up facts or lying about their findings or making up data to support what they think the result should be. People who do that should be beaten with a hockey stick.
 
2013-01-12 04:48:12 PM

Invisible Pedestrian: Has Kirk Cameron weighed in yet? Because I just can't know what to think without his viewpoint.


I'd much rather here from Ken Ham.
 
2013-01-12 04:49:21 PM

TwistedIvory: I don't quite understand how something as nearly universally scientifically accepted as climate change is a politicized thing.


Erm, this is in a country where one party is loudly trying to woo the rapist vote...
 
2013-01-12 04:50:04 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: TwistedIvory: I don't quite understand how something as nearly universally scientifically accepted as climate change is a politicized thing.

In a country where even the frikkin time of day has been politicized this surprises you... how?


i don't have a doctorate in biostatistics or anything... but... goodness, please don't include me in this 'universally scientifically accepted' crowd.

oh wait. i do have a doctorate in biostatistics... still, please don't include me in this 'universally scientifically accepted' crowd.
 
2013-01-12 04:50:08 PM
i.imgur.com
thank you fox news for keeping us infromed
 
2013-01-12 04:51:07 PM
Global warming wasn't a problem when the world was flat.
 
2013-01-12 04:51:08 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: dickfreckle: Easy: Changes reflecting climate change would hit big business the hardest.

Yeah, it would make them a shiatload of money. The shortsightedness of today's businesses astounds me. In case they hadn't noticed, there's a vast market for "green" shiat. Get your shiat together, hop on the global warming bandwagon, and start cranking it out. Oh, wait, that would require you to think beyond this quarter.


Why is "Big Business" so "short-sighted"?

Big Business is now run by a bunch of whiny, spoiled-brat baby-boomers who want a return on their investments, dammit, and they want a bigger one than last year and THEY WANT IT NOW!!!

None of this waiting nonsense.

We are so doomed.
 
2013-01-12 04:51:41 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Hey, Fox "News," as the guys who think that the value of a coin is determined by the amount and type of metal in it, your opinions on anything, particularly scientific matters, are of no consequence. Kindly STFU.


Is a coin really worth $1 trillion if no one wants to buy it for $1 trillion?

/ just sayin'
 
2013-01-12 04:51:54 PM

GBB: GAT_00: [www1.ncdc.noaa.gov image 850x637]

Bigger image, and link since Fark still shrinks it by about 100x100.

Cursory glance, why would January have the greatest variance, but December is steady??


Are the numbers year-to-date average temps? That would explain why the variation seems to decrease as the year goes on. If it's actually month-by-month averages, then I have NO idea why January would be so much more variable than December.
 
2013-01-12 04:52:36 PM

God-is-a-Taco: [i.imgur.com image 402x230]
thank you fox news for keeping us infromed


I love how there is never anyone "undecided/unknown" or that they never have a margin of error... you know... like a real poll or something.
 
2013-01-12 04:54:07 PM
There's stupid, and then there's 'getting into an argument with a thermometer' stupid.
 
2013-01-12 04:54:35 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-12 04:54:51 PM

Day_Old_Dutchie: Why is "Big Business" so "short-sighted"?

Big Business is now run by a bunch of whiny, spoiled-brat baby-boomers who want a return on their investments, dammit, and they want a bigger one than last year and THEY WANT IT NOW!!!


So much this. If these CEO types were half as bright and agile as they claim to be, then something like climate change would be viewed as a challenge and an opportunity, NOT something to bury our heads in the sand about. The firms that actually plan for the future rather than pretend things will never change will be the profitable ones in the future.
 
2013-01-12 04:56:40 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: dickfreckle: Easy: Changes reflecting climate change would hit big business the hardest.

Yeah, it would make them a shiatload of money. The shortsightedness of today's businesses astounds me. In case they hadn't noticed, there's a vast market for "green" shiat. Get your shiat together, hop on the global warming bandwagon, and start cranking it out. Oh, wait, that would require you to think beyond this quarter.


Yeah, I don't think big business is going to make money from a massive dustbowl, the desertification of the midwest, hundreds of billions of dollars in flood damage in coastal cities, more air conditioner use straining the electrical grid and driving up electricity prices, and so on. Cost to US GDP of what's supposedly coming is going to be massive. To say nothing of the displacement of maybe a couple billion people worldwide.

At one point sure, a few minor oil clowns resisted climate change science because they thought the message hurt the oil industry. But now the self-interest is all gone, and it's just wackaloons being wackaloons.
 
2013-01-12 04:57:16 PM
Oh NO! God I'm going to puke, I'm so scared of warm weather! Please save me MSN, Daily Kos, CNN. I am SOOOOO SCARED!!!!! Isn't there anything you can do? I'll be under my bed, just slip a note under the door then.
 
2013-01-12 04:58:30 PM
Some people say, that only retards love guns and disbelieve science.
 
2013-01-12 04:59:25 PM
s6.postimage.org

Indeed.
 
2013-01-12 04:59:29 PM

HMS_Blinkin: GBB: GAT_00: [www1.ncdc.noaa.gov image 850x637]

Bigger image, and link since Fark still shrinks it by about 100x100.

Cursory glance, why would January have the greatest variance, but December is steady??

Are the numbers year-to-date average temps? That would explain why the variation seems to decrease as the year goes on. If it's actually month-by-month averages, then I have NO idea why January would be so much more variable than December.


It's total year deviation from the 20th century average.  So because last January was very warm, it starts out very high, then drops.  And because December wasn't all that exemplary, it didn't cause much change in the year average temp.
 
2013-01-12 04:59:35 PM

Salieri_82: There's stupid, and then there's 'getting into an argument with a thermometer' stupid.


Came here to say this.

Out of all the parameters we can measure in the field on our own planet and others, temperature is something scientists have down pretty well. Even remotely, the confidence in those measurements are quite high.

How does FOX news reside on the same channel as The Simpsons?
 
2013-01-12 05:01:00 PM

GBB: GAT_00: [www1.ncdc.noaa.gov image 850x637]

Bigger image, and link since Fark still shrinks it by about 100x100.

Cursory glance, why would January have the greatest variance, but December is steady??


do you mean other than they are a year apart on that graph?
 
2013-01-12 05:01:08 PM
Since we all ostensibly lived through the last year, even if these morons disbelieve the statistics, don't they remember how farking hot it was? There weren't even seasons. It went from a rainy winter into an eight month summer.
 
2013-01-12 05:01:11 PM

TwistedIvory: I don't quite understand how something as nearly universally scientifically accepted as climate change is a politicized thing.


Came here to say this. Never understood it.
 
2013-01-12 05:01:12 PM

GAT_00: It's total year deviation from the 20th century average.  So because last January was very warm, it starts out very high, then drops.  And because December wasn't all that exemplary, it didn't cause much change in the year average temp.


And conversely, an unusually cold January would represent a larger deviation, but then move back toward the center as the year progresses. Got it, thanks.
 
2013-01-12 05:01:23 PM

HMS_Blinkin: If these CEO types were half as bright and agile as they claim to be, then something like climate change would be viewed as a challenge and an opportunity


Exactly right. We have to hear constantly about how incredibly brilliant and adept these guys are. "Why I started with nothing more than moldy burger wrapper, three rubber bands, and a dream, and from that I built my empire!!!!" Entrepreneurs are constantly lauded. They can overcome adversity! No challenge too big. But they get one regulation dropped on them (something like maybe don't poison the air so much or let workers take a pee break now and then) and all of a sudden they're jumping up on chairs and squealing like female stereotypes in cartoon who've spotted a mouse! "OH NOEZ! REGULASHUNZZZ!!! WE'RE DOOMED!!!!!eleventy!!"

Grow the fark up, guys, and treat global warming as a challenge to be overcome and monetized.
 
2013-01-12 05:02:04 PM

themasterdebater: God-is-a-Taco: [i.imgur.com image 402x230]
thank you fox news for keeping us infromed

I love how there is never anyone "undecided/unknown" or that they never have a margin of error... you know... like a real poll or something.


I like their comprehensiveness.  Most of the polls you see in the liberal media only bother to report on the opinions of 100% of the sample, but Fox goes the extra mile and shows the opinions of 120%.  That's how you know you can believe them.
 
2013-01-12 05:02:40 PM

iheartscotch: Winter is coming.


not anymore
 
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