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2013-01-11 09:32:54 PM
The title of the official response is "This Isn't the Petition Response You're Looking For"!

Hurting, my sides are! XD
 
2013-01-11 09:54:27 PM
The Obama admin is officially the coolest ever.
 
2013-01-11 10:31:26 PM
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2013-01-11 11:55:13 PM
Thank you White House, not only for responding.. but for being cool about it.

This makes me very happy. Just... they get it, and I like that.
 
2013-01-12 12:04:52 AM
Can we spend maybe a billion or two on a speeder bike? Think small, peeps!
 
2013-01-12 12:08:52 AM
I am in love with that response.
 
2013-01-12 12:28:59 AM
Once again, President Obama proves himself to be inexcusably weak on intergalactic defense.
 
2013-01-12 12:46:02 AM
FTFA: We are living in the future! Enjoy it. Or better yet, help build it by pursuing a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field. The President has held the first-ever White House science fairs and Astronomy Night on the South Lawn because he knows these domains are critical to our country's future, and to ensuring the United States continues leading the world in doing big things.

Why should we encourage our children to pursue STEM degrees when you haven't been able to stop corporate America from sending the goddamned tech jobs out of the country?
 
2013-01-12 12:50:24 AM
Dear Fox News,

You might be tempted to respond to this, but before you do, you should be warned:

ic.pics.livejournal.com .


Yours truly,

SilentStrider
 
2013-01-12 12:50:25 AM
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You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought
 
2013-01-12 12:51:02 AM
Since the GOP opposes anything that the WH says, I expect them to demand that a Death Star be built NOW.
 
2013-01-12 01:01:22 AM
I love that we live in a world where not only does the office of the most powerful man on earth issue a formal response to a request to build an orbital death station, but actually manages to be cool about it.
 
2013-01-12 01:08:46 AM
But building a Death Star with that vulnerability would be EXACTLY what the gov't would normally do.
 
2013-01-12 01:10:05 AM

SilentStrider: Dear Fox News,

You might be tempted to respond to this, but before you do, you should be warned:

[ic.pics.livejournal.com image 277x360] .


Yours truly,

SilentStrider


THIS
 
2013-01-12 01:16:53 AM

adjmcloon: But building a Death Star with that vulnerability would be EXACTLY what the gov't would normally do.


Think of all the innocent contractors that could be killed too when working on a second govt Death Star project
 
2013-01-12 01:18:32 AM

dethmagnetic: I love that we live in a world where not only does the office of the most powerful man on earth issue a formal response to a request to build an orbital death station, but actually manages to be cool about it.


I like Obama plenty, but he didn't write that.

By Paul Shawcross

Paul Shawcross is Chief of the Science and Space Branch at the White House Office of Management and Budget
 
2013-01-12 01:35:26 AM

fusillade762: dethmagnetic: I love that we live in a world where not only does the office of the most powerful man on earth issue a formal response to a request to build an orbital death station, but actually manages to be cool about it.

I like Obama plenty, but he didn't write that.

By Paul Shawcross

Paul Shawcross is Chief of the Science and Space Branch at the White House Office of Management and Budget

 
2013-01-12 01:39:12 AM
That^^^Up there..

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2013-01-12 02:39:25 AM

fusillade762: I like Obama plenty, but he didn't write that.


He did say the "Office" of the President.
 
2013-01-12 02:59:03 AM

dethmagnetic: I love that we live in a world where not only does the office of the most powerful man on earth issue a formal response to a request to build an orbital death station, but actually manages to be cool about it.


That was my response, too. Having a genuine sense of humor immediately ups my opinion of a person. I'm sorry, but even the younger/ish members of the GOP simply don't have this. Have you ever watched Paul Ryan attempt a joke? Just...just don't, man. I'm sorry to have even brought it up.

And while you were careful to mention that it was not Obama himself who wrote it, for some reason I can totally see the president pulling a stunt like this. If he's not a Star Wars fan (Jesus, who isn't, seriously?), it would be something else. I've signed several sports-related petitions and, given his famous sports interest, would probably shart myself if he wrote back in similar fashion.
 
2013-01-12 03:12:11 AM
another plus one from me. I have an idea ,that- even if he is the busiest Man in the world, President Obama was briefed on this response and gave it a thumbs up.
 
2013-01-12 03:20:04 AM
I wish they would start thinking about real goals, like space elevators. That way we can start building the Entreprise before the transporters are ready.

I know they are starting to think about space mining.
 
2013-01-12 03:53:32 AM

dickfreckle: would probably shart myself if he wrote back in similar fashion.


They call it "pulling a Roker" these days.
 
2013-01-12 04:42:59 AM

dickfreckle: dethmagnetic: I love that we live in a world where not only does the office of the most powerful man on earth issue a formal response to a request to build an orbital death station, but actually manages to be cool about it.

That was my response, too. Having a genuine sense of humor immediately ups my opinion of a person. I'm sorry, but even the younger/ish members of the GOP simply don't have this. Have you ever watched Paul Ryan attempt a joke? Just...just don't, man. I'm sorry to have even brought it up.



"A Man walks into a bar. Not a drinking establishment, but a piece of metal running parallel to the ground."

...wait, that sounds to intelligent for a Republican joke.
 
2013-01-12 04:55:33 AM
Amusing.

The future of space exploration will be by private companies, though, till the gov't decides to 'relieve' them of it. And they will.
 
2013-01-12 04:57:58 AM
Y'know, come to think of it, having a fatal flaw like that isn't necessarily a BAD thing...as long as you don't let the farking schematics get stolen.

People WITHOUT the schematics aren't gonna know to exploit that flaw, and you CAN exploit it if, somehow, you lose control over the station (invasion, mutiny, or whatever).
 
2013-01-12 05:00:40 AM

SilentStrider: Dear Fox News,

You might be tempted to respond to this, but before you do, you should be warned:

[ic.pics.livejournal.com image 277x360] .


Yours truly,

SilentStrider


P.S. Pictures of Admiral Ackbar are nerd code for "It's a trap."

//Romero.jpg, but they wouldn't know.
 
2013-01-12 05:00:56 AM

robohobo: Amusing.

The future of space exploration will be by private companies, though, till the gov't decides to 'relieve' them of it. And they will.


Little difficult to put the cat back in the bag on this one, especially since ocean launches are the most popular way for private companies to do orbital insertions, and the government'd have a bit of an adventure trying to watch the entire ocean after space ventures had been established as profitable.
 
2013-01-12 05:02:19 AM

LordJiro: Y'know, come to think of it, having a fatal flaw like that isn't necessarily a BAD thing...as long as you don't let the farking schematics get stolen.

People WITHOUT the schematics aren't gonna know to exploit that flaw, and you CAN exploit it if, somehow, you lose control over the station (invasion, mutiny, or whatever).


What's wrong with mutiny?
 
2013-01-12 05:03:08 AM
So I knew that NASA was farming out resupply and such to companies like SpaceX and that there was a government agency passing out money to fund private space development, but I had no freakin idea it was actually called C3PO.

I mean, I know they're a bunch of nerds, but that's just...cool.
 
2013-01-12 05:11:17 AM
That is great.
 
2013-01-12 05:11:35 AM
Paul Shawcross is Chief of the Science and Space Branch at the White House

+1 my friend - you just won the internets
 
2013-01-12 05:16:00 AM

robohobo: Amusing.

The future of space exploration will be by private companies, though, till the gov't decides to 'relieve' them of it. And they will.


Hard to see companies doing much with it until they get over the quarterly profit mentality. Certainly they're not going for multigenerational ships to other worlds.
 
2013-01-12 05:20:53 AM

TheManofPA: adjmcloon: But building a Death Star with that vulnerability would be EXACTLY what the gov't would normally do.

Think of all the innocent contractors that could be killed too when working on a second govt Death Star project


Any contractor working on that Death Star knows the risk involved. If they get killed, it is their own fault.
 
2013-01-12 05:21:39 AM
FTA If you do pursue a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field, the Force will be with us! Remember, the Death Star's power to destroy a planet, or even a whole star system, is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

That. Is. Awesome.
 
2013-01-12 05:22:30 AM
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2013-01-12 05:24:40 AM

SilentStrider: Dear Fox News,

You might be tempted to respond to this, but before you do, you should be warned:

[ic.pics.livejournal.com image 277x360] .


Yours truly,

SilentStrider


Personally I'm glad someone else took care of this death star for me. I wouldn't want anything to do with it.
 
2013-01-12 05:26:10 AM
FTFA: "NASA's Commercial Crew and Cargo Program Office (C3PO)"

I've heard some contrived project names created solely to fit an acronym in my time, but that takes the cake.

Can we officially declare acronyms dead now, and have done with it? This shiat has to end...
 
2013-01-12 05:26:23 AM
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The House of Representatives. You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
 
2013-01-12 05:32:33 AM
i32.tinypic.com
 
2013-01-12 05:35:52 AM

Dimensio: Once again, President Obama proves himself to be inexcusably weak on intergalactic defense.


The Death Star is not a defensive weapon.
 
2013-01-12 05:36:24 AM
If only this statement had been issued before Christmas we would have been treated to a pre-garbled tweet by Palin about Captain Kirk shooting off lasers to welcome the Star of Bethlehem to warn the Muslins that Jesus has a Myrrhsaber.
 
2013-01-12 05:37:02 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Since the GOP opposes anything that the WH says, I expect them to demand that a Death Star be built NOW.


...and cut taxes on the job creators to fund it?
 
2013-01-12 05:38:59 AM
Waits for a certain someone to come in and crap all over this thread... and mention 3D printers.

I wanna ban all forms of punctuation due to that one bad egg.
 
2013-01-12 05:47:54 AM

Harry_Seldon: Dimensio: Once again, President Obama proves himself to be inexcusably weak on intergalactic defense.

The Death Star is not a defensive weapon.


It's also not particularly useful against an insurgency.
 
2013-01-12 05:48:31 AM
Would be safer to invest in Warhammer 40K exterminatus.

Just need to invent extremely large starships, plasma cannons, cyclonic torpedoes, and a virus that turns organic matter into sludge, along with flammable gases released into the atmosphere.

And we'll need some cybernetic Gregorian monks to carry it out, for style and kickass chanting.
 
GBB
2013-01-12 05:49:53 AM

gweilo8888: FTFA: "NASA's Commercial Crew and Cargo Program Office (C3PO)"

I've heard some contrived project names created solely to fit an acronym in my time, but that takes the cake.

Can we officially declare acronyms dead now, and have done with it? This shiat has to end...


Public transportation around here is called Space Coast Area Transit. Their commercials encouraging the locals to "Ride SCAT" provide a little entertainment. Let's keep acronyms a little longer for the lulz.
 
2013-01-12 05:50:51 AM
Rather have them start on the NX class of ship. Much better and more usefull
 
2013-01-12 05:54:23 AM

Cubansaltyballs: The Obama admin is officially the coolest ever.


Yeah, forget about the continuation of warrant-less wiretapping, NDAA, the complete lack of control over the financial sector, and the current push to disarm ordinary Americans, one Obama bureaucrat made some Star Wars references!! HAHAHA!

HAHAHA!

HAHA!

HA. The coolest.
 
2013-01-12 05:55:13 AM

Harry_Seldon: The Death Star is not a defensive weapon.


That's not exactly true. If you position them at the wormhole points, they can very well be great defensive weapons. They get a first turn bonus to fire upon ships as they warp in through them.

/spent all of my high school years playing Space Empires III and IV.
 
2013-01-12 05:55:57 AM

VRaptor117: Yeah, forget about the continuation of warrant-less wiretapping, NDAA, the complete lack of control over the financial sector, and the current push to disarm ordinary Americans, one Obama bureaucrat made some Star Wars references!! HAHAHA!

HAHAHA!

HAHA!

HA. The coolest.


You sound like you're a hit at parties.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-12 06:05:37 AM
A one person death star!! Hope that person is stable.
 
2013-01-12 06:06:44 AM

Deep Contact: A one person death star!! Hope that person is stable.


Kyp Durron and the Sun Crusher.. lets not do that..
 
2013-01-12 06:07:12 AM

fat_free: Can we spend maybe a billion or two on a speeder bike? Think small, peeps!


mainframereview.com

Let's start small...
 
2013-01-12 06:08:19 AM

VRaptor117: Yeah, forget about the continuation of warrant-less wiretapping, NDAA, the complete lack of control over the financial sector, and the current push to disarm ordinary Americans, one Obama bureaucrat made some Star Wars references!! HAHAHA!

HAHAHA!

HAHA!

HA. The coolest.


This. As long as his administration has a little fun every now and again, a lot of people seem to be willing to give it a nice set of passes.

He only really got energized in any meaningful way to push the health care act and now more gun control.

Where was this Obama last term to push closing Guantanamo, stop warrant less wiretapping, become more transparent, curb the excesses of the Patriot Act, leave medical marijuana clinics alone or any of the other things alluded to or outright promised during his 2008 campaign?

I don't recall him demanding action, setting deadlines, convening blue ribbon panels, shedding any crocodile tears, or putting out any bullshiat staged photos of him being really sad over dozens of people effectively interned at Guantanamo for years without trial.

I doubt he sheds any tears for all the innocent people killed by his administration's use of drones or all the people who die in the drug war related violence that his administration happily continues.

He's a self-centered celebrity and a craven, opportunistic piece of shiat.
 
2013-01-12 06:09:13 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: Rather have them start on the NX class of ship. Much better and more usefull


The NX Class?

No one wants to remember Enterprise!

No, better they start on the Daedalus class. It doesn't have the stink of Enterprise on it, and it looks kind of cool...

drexfiles.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-12 06:10:12 AM

pedrop357: VRaptor117: Yeah, forget about the continuation of warrant-less wiretapping, NDAA, the complete lack of control over the financial sector, and the current push to disarm ordinary Americans, one Obama bureaucrat made some Star Wars references!! HAHAHA!

HAHAHA!

HAHA!

HA. The coolest.

This. As long as his administration has a little fun every now and again, a lot of people seem to be willing to give it a nice set of passes.

He only really got energized in any meaningful way to push the health care act and now more gun control.

Where was this Obama last term to push closing Guantanamo, stop warrant less wiretapping, become more transparent, curb the excesses of the Patriot Act, leave medical marijuana clinics alone or any of the other things alluded to or outright promised during his 2008 campaign?

I don't recall him demanding action, setting deadlines, convening blue ribbon panels, shedding any crocodile tears, or putting out any bullshiat staged photos of him being really sad over dozens of people effectively interned at Guantanamo for years without trial.

I doubt he sheds any tears for all the innocent people killed by his administration's use of drones or all the people who die in the drug war related violence that his administration happily continues.

He's a self-centered celebrity and a craven, opportunistic piece of shiat.


Racist.
 
2013-01-12 06:18:27 AM

pedrop357: This. As long as his administration has a little fun every now and again, a lot of people seem to be willing to give it a nice set of passes.

He only really got energized in any meaningful way to push the health care act and now more gun control.

Where was this Obama last term to push closing Guantanamo, stop warrant less wiretapping, become more transparent, curb the excesses of the Patriot Act, leave medical marijuana clinics alone or any of the other things alluded to or outright promised during his 2008 campaign?

I don't recall him demanding action, setting deadlines, convening blue ribbon panels, shedding any crocodile tears, or putting out any bullshiat staged photos of him being really sad over dozens of people effectively interned at Guantanamo for years without trial.

I doubt he sheds any tears for all the innocent people killed by his administration's use of drones or all the people who die in the drug war related violence that his administration happily continues.

He's a self-centered celebrity and a craven, opportunistic piece of shiat.


You have an interestingly broad interpretation of the activities and responsibilities of the Chief of the Science and Space Branch at the White House Office of Management and Budget. Last I checked he didn't have a whole lot to do with prisoner treatment standards or detention allocations, but maybe you know something I do not.
 
2013-01-12 06:19:52 AM
glad they turned something silly into an important talking point. STEM education is really lacking in this country, and I don't think anybody is doing enough to get kids better at science and math.
 
2013-01-12 06:23:45 AM
I have to admit it...

Wow. That tickled my nerd bone!

/Hehehe...
 
2013-01-12 06:24:13 AM
No Death Stars but Death Panels, amirite?
latimesblogs.latimes.com
 
2013-01-12 06:25:36 AM

dolphinburger: glad they turned something silly into an important talking point. STEM education is really lacking in this country, and I don't think anybody is doing enough to get kids better at science and math.


Interest hot skanky trollops in guys who like science and math, and you'll have more guys interested in science and math. Maybe. Even at, Fark, the NFl/wrestling threads pwn every other thread going.
 
2013-01-12 06:26:04 AM

gwowen: No Death Stars but Death Panels, amirite?
[latimesblogs.latimes.com image 300x400]


Ow! My eyes!
 
2013-01-12 06:27:00 AM

Orange-Pippin: FTA If you do pursue a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field, the Force will be with us! Remember, the Death Star's power to destroy a planet, or even a whole star system, is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

That. Is. Awesome.


It's not a coincidence that the First and Second Amendments cover hokey religions and ancient weapons respectively.
 
2013-01-12 06:27:15 AM

robohobo: dolphinburger: glad they turned something silly into an important talking point. STEM education is really lacking in this country, and I don't think anybody is doing enough to get kids better at science and math.

Interest hot skanky trollops in guys who like science and math, and you'll have more guys interested in science and math. Maybe. Even at, Fark, the NFl/wrestling threads pwn every other thread going.


NFL. Sorry, it's past my bedtime.
 
2013-01-12 06:27:29 AM

pedrop357: VRaptor117: Yeah, forget about the continuation of warrant-less wiretapping, NDAA, the complete lack of control over the financial sector, and the current push to disarm ordinary Americans, one Obama bureaucrat made some Star Wars references!! HAHAHA!

HAHAHA!

HAHA!

HA. The coolest.

This. As long as his administration has a little fun every now and again, a lot of people seem to be willing to give it a nice set of passes.

He only really got energized in any meaningful way to push the health care act and now more gun control.

Where was this Obama last term to push closing Guantanamo, stop warrant less wiretapping, become more transparent, curb the excesses of the Patriot Act, leave medical marijuana clinics alone or any of the other things alluded to or outright promised during his 2008 campaign?

I don't recall him demanding action, setting deadlines, convening blue ribbon panels, shedding any crocodile tears, or putting out any bullshiat staged photos of him being really sad over dozens of people effectively interned at Guantanamo for years without trial.

I doubt he sheds any tears for all the innocent people killed by his administration's use of drones or all the people who die in the drug war related violence that his administration happily continues.

He's a self-centered celebrity and a craven, opportunistic piece of shiat.


I totally forgot that ONE person could do everything in Washington all by themselves without assistance from anyone else or Congress.....totally how the presidency works!

But

i265.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-12 06:37:35 AM

OhioUGrad: pedrop357: VRaptor117: Yeah, forget about the continuation of warrant-less wiretapping, NDAA, the complete lack of control over the financial sector, and the current push to disarm ordinary Americans, one Obama bureaucrat made some Star Wars references!! HAHAHA!

HAHAHA!

HAHA!

HA. The coolest.

This. As long as his administration has a little fun every now and again, a lot of people seem to be willing to give it a nice set of passes.

He only really got energized in any meaningful way to push the health care act and now more gun control.

Where was this Obama last term to push closing Guantanamo, stop warrant less wiretapping, become more transparent, curb the excesses of the Patriot Act, leave medical marijuana clinics alone or any of the other things alluded to or outright promised during his 2008 campaign?

I don't recall him demanding action, setting deadlines, convening blue ribbon panels, shedding any crocodile tears, or putting out any bullshiat staged photos of him being really sad over dozens of people effectively interned at Guantanamo for years without trial.

I doubt he sheds any tears for all the innocent people killed by his administration's use of drones or all the people who die in the drug war related violence that his administration happily continues.

He's a self-centered celebrity and a craven, opportunistic piece of shiat.

I totally forgot that ONE person could do everything in Washington all by themselves without assistance from anyone else or Congress.....totally how the presidency works!

But

[i265.photobucket.com image 280x279]


Fellators gonna fellate?

/why is it 'haters gonna hate'?
//must it sound so ghetto?
///the internet will be the end of us
 
2013-01-12 06:40:42 AM

Jim_Callahan: You have an interestingly broad interpretation of the activities and responsibilities of the Chief of the Science and Space Branch at the White House Office of Management and Budget. Last I checked he didn't have a whole lot to do with prisoner treatment standards or detention allocations, but maybe you know something I do not.


Not that guy. Obama. The original comment was directed at the 'coolness' of the obama administration.

So in fairness, some of the people in his administration are apparently funny, smart,cool people, but he (Obama) is a piece of shiat.
 
2013-01-12 06:45:02 AM

robohobo: haters_gonna_hate_obama.jpg


for most of those criticisms that's true, but he could have vetoed the NDAA. that one he DOES have direct control over.

robohobo: robohobo: dolphinburger: glad they turned something silly into an important talking point. STEM education is really lacking in this country, and I don't think anybody is doing enough to get kids better at science and math.

Interest hot skanky trollops in guys who like science and math, and you'll have more guys interested in science and math. Maybe. Even at, Fark, the NFl/wrestling threads pwn every other thread going.

NFL. Sorry, it's past my bedtime.


I agree, I think we need to make it 'cool' to be smart. There's a very dangerous antiintellectual attitude in this country, and i'm not quite sure where it comes from. We also need to be creating girl engineers and scientists at a faster rate. we're really failing at getting women into science, probably because it's really hard to have a child and be a grad student simultaneously. we need to figure this one out people, it's important.
 
2013-01-12 06:45:03 AM

OhioUGrad: I totally forgot that ONE person could do everything in Washington all by themselves without assistance from anyone else or Congress.....totally how the presidency works!

But


If you pull the president's dick out of your mouth and reread what I wrote, you'll see that I directed my attention at Obama and things he does and does not do.

Congress does not set his priorities, nor does it force to him to demand deadlines from Congress. Obama seems to be very light on calling for any action on the things that were so important during his 2008 campaign and THAT is why I posted what I did.

If you want to pretend that he's just this great guy who just can't do all the great things he wanted to because of Congress, fine. Just make sure to wipe your chin when he's done.
 
2013-01-12 06:45:49 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Since the GOP opposes anything that the WH says, I expect them to demand that a Death Star be built NOW.


Two words: moonbase.
 
2013-01-12 06:51:34 AM
I've been arguing about this all night with people who lament that taxpayer dollars pay the salary of the guy who wrote it. Seriously, their blind hatred of the administration is that severe.
 
2013-01-12 06:56:52 AM

Shadowtag: I've been arguing about this all night with people who lament that taxpayer dollars pay the salary of the guy who wrote it. Seriously, their blind hatred of the administration is that severe.


It's no different then the last administration and people's hate for it.

I think Obama is trying very hard to see if he can steal title of worst president from GWB Jr.

It's a marketing piece. The administration comes up with this bs way to make people think the executive branch is actually listening or concerned with their feelings, but pays insulting lip service to proposals like ending the war on drugs or legalizing marijuana.

It does seem like an unnecessary effort, but probably costs next nothing. All that said, I thought it was funny.
 
2013-01-12 06:58:26 AM

pedrop357: I think Obama is trying very hard to see if he can steal title of worst president from GWB Jr.


And that's where I give up on you. Plonk.
 
2013-01-12 07:01:13 AM
The construction of the Death Star has been estimated to cost more than $850,000,000,000,000,000. We're working hard to reduce the deficit, not expand it.

When I read that three hours ago, I started laughing so hard that six of my ribs broke. I just now stopped laughing long enough to type this. Obama would love to increase the deficit by 850 quadrillion dollars. Or more if he thought he could get away with it.
 
2013-01-12 07:02:42 AM

Shadowtag: I've been arguing about this all night with people who lament that taxpayer dollars pay the salary of the guy who wrote it. Seriously, their blind hatred of the administration is that severe.


Were you paying attention from 2001 to 2009? Talk about blind hatred of an administration...
 
2013-01-12 07:10:06 AM

pedrop357: OhioUGrad: I totally forgot that ONE person could do everything in Washington all by themselves without assistance from anyone else or Congress.....totally how the presidency works!

But

If you pull the president's dick out of your mouth and reread what I wrote, you'll see that I directed my attention at Obama and things he does and does not do.

Congress does not set his priorities, nor does it force to him to demand deadlines from Congress. Obama seems to be very light on calling for any action on the things that were so important during his 2008 campaign and THAT is why I posted what I did.

If you want to pretend that he's just this great guy who just can't do all the great things he wanted to because of Congress, fine. Just make sure to wipe your chin when he's done.


The President couldn't get Congress to pay for the closing of Gitmo and relocation of the detainees there when his party controlled everything. Do you really think that a Republican-led House would consider a deadline for the closure of Gitmo for longer than it takes to laugh at it and then tell the President to suck a duck? Don't you think that fighting for the closure of Gitmo would be a distraction from fights that he could win?

Oh, wait... You don't care. You're just a concern troll. Keep crying those crocodile tears.
 
2013-01-12 07:12:11 AM
Why would we spend countless taxpayer dollars on a Medicare program with a fundamental flaw that can be exploited by one woman with a laptop?

(Supposedly this fraud-enabling flaw has been fixed since then, or at least the legal conditions that allow the flaw to be fixed now exist, or maybe some politicians held a press conference saying the flaw's been fixed and although there are no signs of a reduction in overall spending that would indicate the flaw had indeed been fixed...well, really, it was a very nice press conference full of well-expressed soundbites about compassion and that should be good enough for you, citizen.)
 
2013-01-12 07:19:06 AM

twat_waffle: The President couldn't get Congress to pay for the closing of Gitmo and relocation of the detainees there when his party controlled everything. Do you really think that a Republican-led House would consider a deadline for the closure of Gitmo for longer than it takes to laugh at it and then tell the President to suck a duck? Don't you think that fighting for the closure of Gitmo would be a distraction from fights that he could win?

Oh, wait... You don't care. You're just a concern troll. Keep crying those crocodile tears.


I find his priorities and actions to be highly questionable. He knows how to make a big show and go for broke, just not when it comes to any of the things he promised during the campaign.
 
2013-01-12 07:20:10 AM

Harry_Seldon: Dimensio: Once again, President Obama proves himself to be inexcusably weak on intergalactic defense.

The Death Star is not a defensive weapon.


It is if you're going against the Vong.
 
2013-01-12 07:20:29 AM
Whatever they're paying you, Mr. Shawcross, they ought to double it.
 
2013-01-12 07:21:36 AM

Harry_Seldon: The Death Star is not a defensive weapon.


Fear will keep the local systems in line.
 
2013-01-12 07:23:19 AM

pedrop357: VRaptor117: Yeah, forget about the continuation of warrant-less wiretapping, NDAA, the complete lack of control over the financial sector, and the current push to disarm ordinary Americans, one Obama bureaucrat made some Star Wars references!! HAHAHA!

HAHAHA!

HAHA!

HA. The coolest.

This. As long as his administration has a little fun every now and again, a lot of people seem to be willing to give it a nice set of passes.

He only really got energized in any meaningful way to push the health care act and now more gun control.

Where was this Obama last term to push closing Guantanamo, stop warrant less wiretapping, become more transparent, curb the excesses of the Patriot Act, leave medical marijuana clinics alone or any of the other things alluded to or outright promised during his 2008 campaign?

I don't recall him demanding action, setting deadlines, convening blue ribbon panels, shedding any crocodile tears, or putting out any bullshiat staged photos of him being really sad over dozens of people effectively interned at Guantanamo for years without trial.

I doubt he sheds any tears for all the innocent people killed by his administration's use of drones or all the people who die in the drug war related violence that his administration happily continues.

He's a self-centered celebrity and a craven, opportunistic piece of shiat.


You made some good points, and then went all derpy in the last line. I guess I'm still waiting for someone to pose valid criticisms without hatred.
 
2013-01-12 07:25:44 AM

kazikian: You made some good points, and then went all derpy in the last line. I guess I'm still waiting for someone to pose valid criticisms without hatred.


Why does hatred invalidate criticisms?
 
2013-01-12 07:25:59 AM
Was there ever any response to those secession petitions?
 
2013-01-12 07:26:49 AM

pedrop357: kazikian: You made some good points, and then went all derpy in the last line. I guess I'm still waiting for someone to pose valid criticisms without hatred.

Why does hatred invalidate criticisms?


Because emotion is the enemy of rationality.
 
2013-01-12 07:30:16 AM

kazikian: Because emotion is the enemy of rationality.


Fair enough.
 
2013-01-12 07:30:39 AM
"The construction of the Death Star has been estimated to cost more than $850,000,000,000,000,000. We're working hard to reduce the deficit, not expand it."

Not only does he show off his geek cred, but he trolls the GOP at the same time. Brilliant.
 
2013-01-12 07:35:56 AM
That was the single greatest government response to a request in the history of man. Kudos to Paul Shawcross, Chief of the Science and Space Branch at the White House Office of Management and Budget, for having such a great sense of humor about this. Also giving a nod to Obama, something tells me he was at least made aware of this and was ok with it being released.

/so much win!
 
2013-01-12 07:43:32 AM

Gulper Eel: Why would we spend countless taxpayer dollars on a Medicare program with a fundamental flaw that can be exploited by one woman with a laptop?

(Supposedly this fraud-enabling flaw has been fixed since then, or at least the legal conditions that allow the flaw to be fixed now exist, or maybe some politicians held a press conference saying the flaw's been fixed and although there are no signs of a reduction in overall spending that would indicate the flaw had indeed been fixed...well, really, it was a very nice press conference full of well-expressed soundbites about compassion and that should be good enough for you, citizen.)


You are the most boring person on fark.
 
2013-01-12 07:48:03 AM

Gulper Eel: Why would we spend countless taxpayer dollars on a Medicare program with a fundamental flaw that can be exploited by one woman with a laptop?

(Supposedly this fraud-enabling flaw has been fixed since then, or at least the legal conditions that allow the flaw to be fixed now exist, or maybe some politicians held a press conference saying the flaw's been fixed and although there are no signs of a reduction in overall spending that would indicate the flaw had indeed been fixed...well, really, it was a very nice press conference full of well-expressed soundbites about compassion and that should be good enough for you, citizen.)


Dude, you need to get laid.
 
2013-01-12 07:48:57 AM

pedrop357: He knows how to make a big show and go for broke, just not when it comes to any of the things he promised during the campaign.


He's kept plenty of his campaign promises. Just because they may not be specifically the ones you want, doesn't mean it's not happening.
 
2013-01-12 07:54:58 AM

kazikian: Was there ever any response to those secession petitions?


Yep.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-everyone-signed-peti t ion-withdraw-their-state-united-states-america/dmQl1bXL
 
2013-01-12 07:55:27 AM

Dimensio: TheManofPA: adjmcloon: But building a Death Star with that vulnerability would be EXACTLY what the gov't would normally do.

Think of all the innocent contractors that could be killed too when working on a second govt Death Star project

Any contractor working on that Death Star knows the risk involved. If they get killed, it is their own fault.


All those innocent contractors brought in to do the job were killed - casualties of a war they had nothing to do with. All right, look: you're a roofer, some juicy government contract comes your way. You got a wife and kids, the two-story in suburbia. This is a government contract, which means all sorts of benefits. Along come these left-wing militants that blast everything within a three-mile radius with their lasers. You didn't ask for that. You have no personal politics. You're just trying to scrape out a living.
 
2013-01-12 07:58:42 AM
Touche'
i632.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-12 08:04:51 AM

twat_waffle: pedrop357: OhioUGrad: I totally forgot that ONE person could do everything in Washington all by themselves without assistance from anyone else or Congress.....totally how the presidency works!

But

If you pull the president's dick out of your mouth and reread what I wrote, you'll see that I directed my attention at Obama and things he does and does not do.

Congress does not set his priorities, nor does it force to him to demand deadlines from Congress. Obama seems to be very light on calling for any action on the things that were so important during his 2008 campaign and THAT is why I posted what I did.

If you want to pretend that he's just this great guy who just can't do all the great things he wanted to because of Congress, fine. Just make sure to wipe your chin when he's done.

The President couldn't get Congress to pay for the closing of Gitmo and relocation of the detainees there when his party controlled everything. Do you really think that a Republican-led House would consider a deadline for the closure of Gitmo for longer than it takes to laugh at it and then tell the President to suck a duck? Don't you think that fighting for the closure of Gitmo would be a distraction from fights that he could win?

Oh, wait... You don't care. You're just a concern troll. Keep crying those crocodile tears.


But... "bully pulpit" + Sorkin-esque shtick doesn't = co-equal branch of government acceding to the executive's every demand? Unpossible!
 
2013-01-12 08:20:14 AM
We're working hard to reduce the deficit, not expand it.

Blahahahahaha!
 
2013-01-12 08:23:25 AM
Awwww....that's like saying 'No, you can't have a battleship, but look, we have SLINGSHOTS!'

Can't we compromise a bit, Obama?

We'd be happy with a small fleet of Star Destroyers....

Or even Battlestars if we must....
 
2013-01-12 08:27:58 AM
Given Obama's track record a single fatal flaw in the design of any plan would not be nearly enough of a screw up anyway.
 
2013-01-12 08:52:36 AM

ThisIsntMe: fusillade762: dethmagnetic: I love that we live in a world where not only does the office of the most powerful man on earth issue a formal response to a request to build an orbital death station, but actually manages to be cool about it.

I like Obama plenty, but he didn't write that.

By Paul Shawcross

Paul Shawcross is Chief of the Science and Space Branch at the White House Office of Management and Budget


Yes, but by the Benghazi engagement rules not only is Obama responsible for the response, he is responsible for compromising our interplanetary security and participating in the massive cover-up thereof.
 
2013-01-12 08:53:10 AM
Yay, Star Wars nerds, keep voting up every other rejected headline so the voting page is nothing but this link.
 
2013-01-12 08:53:36 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Mid_mo_mad_man: Rather have them start on the NX class of ship. Much better and more usefull

The NX Class?

No one wants to remember Enterprise!

No, better they start on the Daedalus class. It doesn't have the stink of Enterprise on it, and it looks kind of cool...

[drexfiles.files.wordpress.com image 850x538]


Well I liked the show. You got to get your feet wet first with NX class then move to bigger better classes
 
2013-01-12 08:59:06 AM

randomjism: [derp]


i469.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-12 09:02:46 AM

pedrop357: VRaptor117: Yeah, forget about the continuation of warrant-less wiretapping, NDAA, the complete lack of control over the financial sector, and the current push to disarm ordinary Americans, one Obama bureaucrat made some Star Wars references!! HAHAHA!

HAHAHA!

HAHA!

HA. The coolest.

This. As long as his administration has a little fun every now and again, a lot of people seem to be willing to give it a nice set of passes.

He only really got energized in any meaningful way to push the health care act and now more gun control.

Where was this Obama last term to push closing Guantanamo, stop warrant less wiretapping, become more transparent, curb the excesses of the Patriot Act, leave medical marijuana clinics alone or any of the other things alluded to or outright promised during his 2008 campaign?

I don't recall him demanding action, setting deadlines, convening blue ribbon panels, shedding any crocodile tears, or putting out any bullshiat staged photos of him being really sad over dozens of people effectively interned at Guantanamo for years without trial.

I doubt he sheds any tears for all the innocent people killed by his administration's use of drones or all the people who die in the drug war related violence that his administration happily continues.

He's a self-centered celebrity and a craven, opportunistic piece of shiat.


True, but he's STILL better than the average Republican. No contest. At all.
 
2013-01-12 09:06:46 AM

randomjsa: Given Obama's track record a single fatal flaw in the design of any plan would not be nearly enough of a screw up anyway.


Yawn.

Wake me up when he invades the wrong country, troll.
 
BOZ
2013-01-12 09:10:15 AM
As Ackar of the Farkistan Alliance in CyberNations, I am relieved that this will not be built! ;-)
 
2013-01-12 09:15:25 AM

VRaptor117: Cubansaltyballs: The Obama admin is officially the coolest ever.

Yeah, forget about the continuation of warrant-less wiretapping, NDAA, the complete lack of control over the financial sector, and the current push to disarm ordinary Americans, one Obama bureaucrat made some Star Wars references!! HAHAHA!

HAHAHA!

HAHA!

HA. The coolest.


i8.photobucket.com

You all right there, sport?
 
2013-01-12 09:19:58 AM

Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: We are living in the future! Enjoy it. Or better yet, help build it by pursuing a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field. The President has held the first-ever White House science fairs and Astronomy Night on the South Lawn because he knows these domains are critical to our country's future, and to ensuring the United States continues leading the world in doing big things.

Why should we encourage our children to pursue STEM degrees when you haven't been able to stop corporate America from sending the goddamned tech jobs out of the country?


As a programmer, I keep up on this, and it seems that the flow of programming jobs to India has slowed to a trickle. My perspective may be flawed, but it no longer feels like the writing's on the wall.
 
2013-01-12 09:20:58 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: FirstNationalBastard: Mid_mo_mad_man: Rather have them start on the NX class of ship. Much better and more usefull

The NX Class?

No one wants to remember Enterprise!

No, better they start on the Daedalus class. It doesn't have the stink of Enterprise on it, and it looks kind of cool...

[drexfiles.files.wordpress.com image 850x538]

Well I liked the show. You got to get your feet wet first with NX class then move to bigger better classes


If Manny Coto and the Reeves-Stevenses had been in charge from the beginning, and the show had been done the way season 4 was from the beginning instead of doing some lame Temporal Cold War stuff or 9/11 in space, Enterprise might have succeeded and ran the full 7 years.

/and many are still disappointed the NX class is just the Akira class ship from First Contact turned upside down.
 
2013-01-12 09:23:12 AM
I'm not a fan of star wars, but nonetheless, nice response.
 
2013-01-12 09:29:11 AM
Why would we spend countless taxpayer dollars on a Death Star with a fundamental flaw that can be exploited by a one man starship?

Hubris.
And don't' tell me there is a shortage of that around here.
 
2013-01-12 09:35:54 AM
We've also got two robot science labs -- one wielding a laser -- roving around Mars, looking at whether life ever existed on the Red Planet.

Don't be too proud of these technological terrors you've created.
 
2013-01-12 09:40:38 AM

Halli: You are the most boring person on fark.


I try.

Serious Black: Dude, you need to get laid.


And yet here we both are on Fark, where the pot says "how YOU doin'?" to the kettle.
 
2013-01-12 09:44:34 AM

dickfreckle: And while you were careful to mention that it was not Obama himself who wrote it, for some reason I can totally see the president pulling a stunt like this. If he's not a Star Wars fan (Jesus, who isn't, seriously?), it would be something else. I've signed several sports-related petitions and, given his famous sports interest, would probably shart myself if he wrote back in similar fashion.


blastr.com

The US Olympic fencing team visited the White House in '09, as part of Chicago's bid for the Olympics in 2020, President Obama pulled out a lightsaber.

Yeah, it's safe to say he's a fan.
 
2013-01-12 09:47:52 AM

Wyalt Derp: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Since the GOP opposes anything that the WH says, I expect them to demand that a Death Star be built NOW.

Two words: moonbase.


We already had a moonbase back in 1999, it didn't end well.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-12 09:51:30 AM
Haha oh wow!
 
2013-01-12 09:53:29 AM
Well it's good to see that all the slackers of the world have managed to effectively waste each others' time!
 
2013-01-12 09:53:30 AM

Cubansaltyballs: The Obama admin is officially the coolest ever.


If only being cool helped you create jobs, reduce the deficit, obey the constitution...
 
2013-01-12 10:29:18 AM
Harry_Seldon

Dimensio: Once again, President Obama proves himself to be inexcusably weak on intergalactic defense.

The Death Star is not a defensive weapon.


The best defense is a good offense.
 
2013-01-12 10:32:43 AM

Bisu: Cubansaltyballs: The Obama admin is officially the coolest ever.

If only being cool helped you create jobs, reduce the deficit, obey the constitution...


Good thing for the GOP that it isn't Congress' job to pass budgets and job bills for the President to sign into law, then.
 
2013-01-12 10:34:56 AM

Yes this is dog: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 550x400]

The House of Representatives. You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.


I think with the proper use of photoshop, you could turn that into a successful meme.

/+1
 
2013-01-12 10:36:12 AM

Serious Black: "The construction of the Death Star has been estimated to cost more than $850,000,000,000,000,000. We're working hard to reduce the deficit, not expand it."

Not only does he show off his geek cred, but he trolls the GOP at the same time. Brilliant.


Also in the form of a true politician, they are actively doing the exact opposite. Brilliant!
 
2013-01-12 10:40:04 AM
Big business isn't going to like being cut out of another profit opportunity by Mr. Anti-Business
 
2013-01-12 10:40:39 AM

BronyMedic: Harry_Seldon: The Death Star is not a defensive weapon.

That's not exactly true. If you position them at the wormhole points, they can very well be great defensive weapons. They get a first turn bonus to fire upon ships as they warp in through them.

/spent all of my high school years playing Space Empires III and IV.


I've never heard or read about wormholes being used for space travel in the Star Wars universe.
 
2013-01-12 10:46:01 AM

BronyMedic: Harry_Seldon: The Death Star is not a defensive weapon.

That's not exactly true. If you position them at the wormhole points, they can very well be great defensive weapons. They get a first turn bonus to fire upon ships as they warp in through them.

/spent all of my high school years playing Space Empires III and IV.


Oh wow, someone else on Fark played?

/did you play on the Play by Web site?
 
2013-01-12 10:54:43 AM
it that dudes job is just to write responses like this he should be fired to reduce the deficit more. and stop encouraging kids to go into science or engineering !!! - - we already have enough baristas.
 
2013-01-12 10:59:24 AM

Silverstaff: blastr.com


can we please get a nonghey president? maybe one with a 'responsible adult, leader' package?
 
2013-01-12 11:01:26 AM

utah dude: Silverstaff: blastr.com

can we please get a nonghey president? maybe one with a 'responsible adult, leader' package?


What, one who thinks he's on a mission from god?

Howbout a B-Movie actor?
 
2013-01-12 11:02:01 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Mid_mo_mad_man: Rather have them start on the NX class of ship. Much better and more usefull

The NX Class?

No one wants to remember Enterprise!

No, better they start on the Daedalus class. It doesn't have the stink of Enterprise on it, and it looks kind of cool...

[drexfiles.files.wordpress.com image 850x538]


Lame. If your going to go retro...go Naglfar.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-12 11:02:23 AM

pudding7: I've never heard or read about wormholes being used for space travel in the Star Wars universe.


{Star Wars Geek Mode}

There is are a handful of canonical examples of wormholes in Star Wars lore.

One is actually tied to the Death Star, or at least the Death Star II (From RotJ).

When the second Death Star was destroyed, the uncontrolled collapse of the largest hypermatter reactor ever built created a wormhole through hyperspace that sucked in much of the debris of the Death Star and deposited into the Mon Calamari star system.

It was originally from a 1992 young adult novel called "The Glove of Darth Vader", explaining how Vaders severed hand and glove survived the destruction of the Death Star and became a sacred relic for Imperial loyalists in the aftermath of the death of Palpatine.

Later writers have fleshed the entire thing out, since it also provides a nice, canonical reason for why Endor survived the destruction of the Death Star in low orbit, even though some fans (Curtis Saxton most notably) argue it would be physically impossible for a habitable world to survive that much debris.

Also, in the Dark Empire comic series, Reborn Palpatine had progressed so far as a Sith Lord that he had learned how to rip apart space with the dark side, and could actually use the Force to create wormholes, which is how he abducted Luke to bring him to his new throne world of Byss. He also could weaponize this ability, creating unstable rips in space to attack entire fleets.

However, for what BronyMedic was saying about wormhole points, no, in Star Wars wormholes do not work that way. Heck, even hyperdrives don't work that way, you can jump from any place where the gravity isn't too strong (or an interdiction field is disrupting hyperspace access), thats why ships carry nav computers and astromech droids.

{/Star Wars Geek Mode}
 
2013-01-12 11:10:03 AM

pedrop357: Mouthfoam!1!


**ignore
 
2013-01-12 11:10:42 AM

pedrop357: I don't recall him demanding action, setting deadlines, convening blue ribbon panels, shedding any crocodile tears, or putting out any bullshiat staged photos of him being really sad over dozens of people effectively interned at Guantanamo for years without trial.


So, you don't remember the executive order he issued to close Guantanamo that Congress immediately moved to block by cutting off the funding?
 
2013-01-12 11:10:52 AM

utah dude: Silverstaff: blastr.com

can we please get a nonghey president? maybe one with a 'responsible adult, leader' package?


Let's look at our prior choices:

1. Idiot from Texas on a mission from God.
2. Charming lecherous womanizer, elected mainly because he is a great public speaker.
3. Bland guy who was elected mainly because his competition for the job looked like a doofus when he climbed into a tank.
4. B-Movie Actor elected mainly because he gives good speeches and was photogenic.
5. Naive peanut farmer who turned out to be better as a goodwill ambassador than a President.
6. Unelected ineffectual clutz.
7. Slimy, oily crook that was the most corrupt POTUS in the 20th century.
8. Uptight, heartless prick who got the office because the guy before him got shot.
9. Charming womanizer elected mainly because he was a great public speaker and was a war hero.

We don't elect our Presidents for being a "responsible, adult leader". We choose them mainly on if they are a good public speaker, are photogenic on camera and on TV, and if they seem likable to a majority of people.
 
2013-01-12 11:11:57 AM
The problem with a Deathstar is the lack of support ships. The armaments include one laser and assorted fighters. If you occupy the fighters and dodge the laser it's a easy victor. You would need a fleet of support ships to help defend it. It would be more cost effective to build a fleet of constellation class starships.
 
2013-01-12 11:24:34 AM

Silverstaff: 5. Naive peanut farmer who turned out to be better as a goodwill ambassador than a President.


anybody that watches nachos and drinks football with homer while watching beer is fine with me.
 
2013-01-12 11:29:55 AM

Silverstaff: 7. Slimy, oily crook that was the most corrupt POTUS in the 20th century.


Actually, his sins seem kind of quaint now.
 
2013-01-12 11:32:36 AM
cl.jroo.me
 
2013-01-12 11:44:09 AM

Silverstaff: We don't elect our Presidents for being a "responsible, adult leader". We choose them mainly on if they are a good public speaker, are photogenic on camera and on TV, and if they seem likable to a majority of people.


And because they represent our values, have common sense, and promise to fix what's broke in Washington.
 
2013-01-12 11:47:10 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: The problem with a Deathstar is the lack of support ships. The armaments include one laser and assorted fighters. If you occupy the fighters and dodge the laser it's a easy victor. You would need a fleet of support ships to help defend it. It would be more cost effective to build a fleet of constellation class starships.


Ooh...

Constellation class ships?

www.neutralzone.de

drexfiles.files.wordpress.com

I've always liked the look of those.
 
2013-01-12 11:48:20 AM
There are not enough Lighten Up Francis jpegs to handle this thread without crashing the servers.
 
2013-01-12 11:49:30 AM
From TFA: If you do pursue a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field, the Force will be with us! Remember, the Death Star's power to destroy a planet, or even a whole star system, is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

I am outraged!!! This sad devotion to an ancient religion is clearly a violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution of The United States of America.
 
2013-01-12 11:52:00 AM

Cubansaltyballs: The Obama admin is officially the coolest ever.


I enjoyed the citing of the dimwit Lucasism of the Kessel Run.

I also enjoyed a touch of levity in a governmental press release. Pretty rare in my experience.
 
2013-01-12 11:53:08 AM

Bisu: Cubansaltyballs: The Obama admin is officially the coolest ever.

If only being cool helped you create jobs, reduce the deficit, obey the constitution...


If only being a troll helped you get a job, move out of your mom's basement, get laid...
 
2013-01-12 11:54:26 AM

ThisIsntMe: fusillade762: dethmagnetic: I love that we live in a world where not only does the office of the most powerful man on earth issue a formal response to a request to build an orbital death station, but actually manages to be cool about it.

I like Obama plenty, but he didn't write that.

By Paul Shawcross

Paul Shawcross is Chief of the Science and Space Branch at the White House Office of Management and Budget


you don't get it do you? sure Obama didn;t personally write that but it is obvious in his administration, that sort of culture permeates which in a way is cool. they for the most part hire cool people.

Can you imagine someone working in a Romney or Bush admin even responds to something like that nevermind being cool about it?
 
2013-01-12 11:54:48 AM

tillerman35: From TFA: If you do pursue a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field, the Force will be with us! Remember, the Death Star's power to destroy a planet, or even a whole star system, is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

I am outraged!!! This sad devotion to an ancient religion is clearly a violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution of The United States of America.


Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster gun at your side
 
2013-01-12 11:58:13 AM

VRaptor117: Yeah, forget about the continuation of warrant-less wiretapping, NDAA, the complete lack of control over the financial sector, and the current push to disarm ordinary Americans, one Obama bureaucrat made some Star Wars references!! HAHAHA!


A) the NDAA gets passed every year so you sound like an idiot making it sound like Obama passed it once.
B) The NDAA you are talking about specifically says it gives no additional powers to the president/executive branch.

You are an idiot.
 
2013-01-12 11:59:52 AM
With the way this government has been spending, this comes as a shock to me.

Either way, wait until Obama calls for Order 66 and the military attacks law-abiding gun owners. Then, once Obama declares himself dictator, he will call for work on the battle station.

Might take a page from Call of Duty and call it the USS Obama.
 
2013-01-12 11:59:58 AM
i595.photobucket.com
Fart Five, standing by.
 
2013-01-12 12:01:34 PM
An intelligent and humorous reply to a frivolous petition?

+1 government science replier dude
 
2013-01-12 12:02:14 PM
"Why would we spend countless taxpayer dollars on a Death Star with a fundamental flaw that can be exploited by a one-man starship?"


cause the CONgressional Military Industrial Complex wants lots of free tax money?
 
2013-01-12 12:03:17 PM

Orange-Pippin: FirstNationalBastard: Mid_mo_mad_man: Rather have them start on the NX class of ship. Much better and more usefull

The NX Class?

No one wants to remember Enterprise!

No, better they start on the Daedalus class. It doesn't have the stink of Enterprise on it, and it looks kind of cool...

[drexfiles.files.wordpress.com image 850x538]

Lame. If your going to go retro...go Naglfar.

[i.imgur.com image 850x641]



Loved me some Eve back in The Day. Now it's way too complicated and I can't put the time in.
 
2013-01-12 12:03:53 PM

Silverstaff: 8. Uptight, heartless prick who got the office because the guy before him got shot.


Yeah, that LBJ was one heartless bastard:

Landmark Laws of the Lyndon B. Johnson Administration

-----1963-----
College Facilities
Clean Air
Vocational Education
Indian Vocational Training
Manpower Training


-----1964-----
Inter-American Development Bank
Kennedy Cultural Center
Tax Reduction
Presidential Transition
Federal Airport Aid
Farm Program
Chamizal Convention
Pesticide Controls
International Development Association
Civil Rights Act of 1964
Campobello International Park
Urban Mass Transit
Water Resources Research
Federal Highway
Civil Service Pay Raise
War on Poverty
Criminal Justice
Truth-in-Securities
Medicine Bow National Forest
Ozark Scenic Riverway
Administrative Conference
Fort Bowie Historic Site
Food StampHousing Act
Interest Equalization
Wilderness Areas
Nurse Training
Revenues for Recreation
Fire Island National Seashore
Library Services
Federal Employee Health Benefits


-----1965-----
Medicare
Aid to Education
Higher Education
Four Year Farm Program
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Housing Act
Social Security Increase
Voting Rights
Fair Immigration Law
Older Americans
Heart, Cancer, Stroke Program
Law Enforcement Assistance
National Crime Commission
Drug Controls
Mental Health Facilities
Health Professions
Medical Libraries
Vocational Rehabilitation
Anti-Poverty Program
Arts and Humanities Foundation
Aid to Appalachia
Highway BeautyClean Air
Water Pollution Control
High Speed Transit
Manpower Training
Presidential Disability
Child Health
Regional Development
Aid to Small Businesses
Weather-Predicting Services
Military Pay Increase
GI Life Insurance
Community Health Services
Water Resources Council
Water Desalting
Assateague National Seashore
Whiskeytown National Recreation Area
Delaware Water Gap Recreation Area
Juvenile Delinquency Control
Arms Control
Strengthening U.N. Charter
International Coffee Agreement
Retirement for Public Servants


-----1966-----
Food for India
Child Nutrition
Department of Transportation
Truth in Packaging
Model Cities
Rent Supplements
Teachers Corps
Asian Development Bank
Clean Rivers
Food for Freedom
Child Safety
Narcotics Rehabilitation
Traffic Safety
Highway Safety
Mine Safety
International Education
Bail Reform
Tire Safety
New GI Bill
Minimum Wage Increase
Urban Mass Transit
Civil Procedure Reform
Federal Highway Aid
Military Medicare
Public Health Reorganization
Cape Lookout Seashore
Water Research
Guadalupe National Park
Revolutionary War Bicentennial
Fish-Wildlife Preservation
Water for Peace
Anti-Inflation Program
Scientific Knowledge Exchange
Cultural Materials Exchange
Foreign Investors Tax
Parcel Post Reform
Civil Service Pay Raise
Stockpile Sales
Participation Certificates
Protection for Savings
Flexible Interest Rates
Freedom of Information


-----1967-----
Education Professions
Education Act
Air Pollution Control
Partnership for Health
Social Security Increases
Age Discrimination
Wholesome Meat
Flammable Fabrics
Urban Research
Public Broadcasting
Outer Space Treaty
Modern D.C. Government
Vietnam Veterans Benefits
Federal Judicial Center
Civilian-Postal Workers Pay
Deaf-Blind Center
College Work Study
Summer Youth Programs
Food Stamps
Rail Strike Settlement
Selective Service
Urban Fellowships
Consular Treaty
Safety At Sea Treaty
Narcotics Treaty
Anti-Racketeering
Product Safety Commission
Small Business Aid
Inter-American Bank


-----1968-----
Fair Housing
Indian Bill of Rights
Safe Streets
Wholesome Poultry
Food for Peace
Commodity Exchange Rules
U.S. Grain Standards
School Breakfasts
Bank Protection
Defense Production
Corporate Takeovers
Export Program
Gold Cover Removal
Truth-in-Lending
Aircraft Noise Abatement
Auto Insurance Study
New Narcotics Bureau
Gas Pipeline Safety
Fire Safety
Sea Grant Colleges
D.C. School Board
Tax Surcharge
Better Housing
International Monetary Reform
International Grains Treaty
Oil Revenues for Recreation
Virgin Islands Elections
San Rafael Wilderness
San Gabriel Wilderness
Fair Federal Juries
Candidate Protection
Juvenile Delinquency Prevention
Guaranteed Student Loans
D.C. Visitors Center
FHA-VA Interest Rate Program
Health Manpower
Eisenhower College
Gun Controls
Aid-to-Handicapped Children
Redwoods Park
Flaming Gorge Recreation Area
Biscayne ParkHeart, Cancer, and Stroke Programs
Hazardous Radiation Protection
Colorado River Reclamation
Scenic RiversScenic Trails
National Water Commission
Federal Magistrates
Vocational Education
Veterans Pension Increases
North Cascades Park
International Coffee Agreement
Intergovernmental Manpower
Dangerous Drugs Control
Military Justice Code
 
2013-01-12 12:05:02 PM
Obama Administration: "Why would we spend countless taxpayer dollars on a Death Star with a fundamental flaw that can be exploited by a one-man starship?"

... because that's the way liberal Democrats think. No understanding of consequences. Borrow big, spend big, claim it's somebody else's fault.
 
2013-01-12 12:05:46 PM
Alphax:

Kyp Durron and the Sun Crusher.. lets not do that..

1) +10 ultra-nerd points for that.
2) We're all in here joking (except for a few humorless trolls), meanwhile the Senate has been paralyzed and now we have no plans to keep the local systems in line.
 
2013-01-12 12:06:23 PM
Wow...lots of conservative butt-hurt in this thread.
 
2013-01-12 12:08:02 PM

Fark Me To Tears: Why should we encourage our children to pursue STEM degrees when you haven't been able to stop corporate America from sending the goddamned tech jobs out of the country?


Having both a large domestic labor pool and an international labor pool will drive wages down even further, meaning that corporations will be able to pass the savings on to you, the consumer... which is good because you won't have wages high enough to afford the old pre-savings prices.
 
2013-01-12 12:08:28 PM

Stone Meadow: Wow...lots of conservative butt-hurt in this thread.



Preparation H has been flying off the shelves since nov. 6.
 
2013-01-12 12:10:34 PM

OhioUGrad: pedrop357: VRaptor117: Yeah, forget about the continuation of warrant-less wiretapping, NDAA, the complete lack of control over the financial sector, and the current push to disarm ordinary Americans, one Obama bureaucrat made some Star Wars references!! HAHAHA!

HAHAHA!

HAHA!

HA. The coolest.

This. As long as his administration has a little fun every now and again, a lot of people seem to be willing to give it a nice set of passes.

He only really got energized in any meaningful way to push the health care act and now more gun control.

Where was this Obama last term to push closing Guantanamo, stop warrant less wiretapping, become more transparent, curb the excesses of the Patriot Act, leave medical marijuana clinics alone or any of the other things alluded to or outright promised during his 2008 campaign?

I don't recall him demanding action, setting deadlines, convening blue ribbon panels, shedding any crocodile tears, or putting out any bullshiat staged photos of him being really sad over dozens of people effectively interned at Guantanamo for years without trial.

I doubt he sheds any tears for all the innocent people killed by his administration's use of drones or all the people who die in the drug war related violence that his administration happily continues.

He's a self-centered celebrity and a craven, opportunistic piece of shiat.

I totally forgot that ONE person could do everything in Washington all by themselves without assistance from anyone else or Congress.....totally how the presidency works!

But

[i265.photobucket.com image 280x279]


He could, you know, use that executive order...
 
2013-01-12 12:12:03 PM
Guarantee that the GOP will make whiny noises about the Administration's open reference to the Force...Something that religious retards have said is a veil for Satanism.
 
2013-01-12 12:14:53 PM
indieogdenutah.com
Greatest. Petition. EVAR~!
 
2013-01-12 12:17:05 PM

Linux_Yes: Stone Meadow: Wow...lots of conservative butt-hurt in this thread.

Preparation H has been flying off the shelves since nov. 6.


Well, that understandable. What I don't get, though, is the whiny spat-throwing over such trivial matters as complaining that the WH takes the time to engage constructively with petitioners instead of telling folks to STFU and GBTW. It seems that the better job the President does the worse conservatives like him. I wonder what could prompt that?
 
2013-01-12 12:17:20 PM

Silverstaff: utah dude: Silverstaff: blastr.com


1. Idiot from Texas on a mission from God.
2. Charming lecherous womanizer, elected mainly because he is a great public speaker.
3. Bland guy who was elected mainly because his competition for the job looked like a doofus when he climbed into a tank.
4. B-Movie Actor elected mainly because he gives good speeches and was photogenic.
5. Naive peanut farmer who turned out to be better as a goodwill ambassador than a President.
6. Unelected ineffectual clutz.
7. Slimy, oily crook that was the most corrupt POTUS in the 20th century.


The rest, while woefully inaccurate due to simplification, was what I expect from Fark intellectualism. But Nixon as the most corrupt 20th century POTUS? O ho ho ho.
 
2013-01-12 12:17:32 PM

Stone Meadow: Wow...lots of conservative butt-hurt in this thread.


Only one president is allowed to waste billions on Star Wars.
 
2013-01-12 12:18:33 PM

shotglasss: Shadowtag: I've been arguing about this all night with people who lament that taxpayer dollars pay the salary of the guy who wrote it. Seriously, their blind hatred of the administration is that severe.

Were you paying attention from 2001 to 2009? Talk about blind hatred of an administration...


Nothing blind about hating THAT administration...
 
2013-01-12 12:22:37 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: Stone Meadow: Wow...lots of conservative butt-hurt in this thread.

Only one president is allowed to waste billions on Star Wars.


I bet President Romney would have gotten a pass... ;^)
 
2013-01-12 12:23:08 PM

Lonestar: I wish they would start thinking about real goals, like space elevators. That way we can start building the Entreprise before the transporters are ready.

I know they are starting to think about space mining.


They have started actually talkng about the logistics behind building a space elevator.. I've read about it several times in the past couple of years.
Yet another real world device thought up by geniuses such as Arthur C. Clarke and his contemporaries a half century before the space program began....
 
2013-01-12 12:23:12 PM

dolphinburger: glad they turned something silly into an important talking point. STEM education is really lacking in this country, and I don't think anybody is doing enough to get kids better at science and math.


But the trick was to do it in such a way that, not only would it be constructive, but it would be full of awesome at the same time.

White House: Challenge accepted and achieved.
 
2013-01-12 12:23:34 PM
I don't typically give praise to the WH, but this was funny. Good job to the guy who wrote it.
 
2013-01-12 12:25:09 PM

GoldSpider: Whatever they're paying you, Mr. Shawcross, they ought to double it.


obotech, the shawcross saga
 
2013-01-12 12:26:00 PM

Shadowtag: I've been arguing about this all night with people who lament that taxpayer dollars pay the salary of the guy who wrote it. Seriously, their blind hatred of the administration is that severe.


My dad was giving me that line of thinking last night, but if Shawcross actually wrote the whole thing instead of giving an intern a basic outline and having them write it, I'd be surprised.
 
2013-01-12 12:29:09 PM

Clemkadidlefark: Obama Administration: "Why would we spend countless taxpayer dollars on a Death Star with a fundamental flaw that can be exploited by a one-man starship?"

... because that's the way liberal Democrats think. No understanding of consequences. Borrow big, spend big, claim it's somebody else's fault.


That's how conservatives THINK liberal Democrats think. You guys are out of touch with reality.
 
2013-01-12 12:29:53 PM

Cubansaltyballs: The Obama admin is officially the coolest ever.


Totally agree and if the WH ever DOES agree to build the deathstar, I hope they make the emperor black like Obama.
 
2013-01-12 12:34:18 PM

pedrop357: Where was this Obama last term to push closing Guantanamo,



Unless you understand the legal implications of the difference between international and non-international armed conflict and the benefits and detriments associated with being termed a combatant, along with the combatant criteria, then you should just shut up about Guantanamo, the detainees, and trials in general. It's a tremendous nightmare that's held over from the bungling of the Bush administration that left Obama with the impossible choice of releasing the detainees (no court would ever or could ever convict them) assuming of course their nations would accept them (they won't) or third party states would allow entry as refugees (refused and none volunteered). I mean sure you could grant entry into you the United States which would be incredibly stupid since 1) our treatment of them will probably inspire them to misbehave in some fashion while here and if not 2) their status will make them targets by the morons amongst us who 3) will at the very least be worked up into such a rabid fury that it will be impossible to accomplish anything else as President, so unless this is going to be the only thing he does as President and you're willing to sacrifice all other projects on the legislative agenda, then fine.


stop warrant less wiretapping,


The program as revised excludes Americans. A warrant is required in order for intercepts of communications by Americans to be legal.


become more transparent,


Vague and general. Like me telling you to stop being an idiotic asshole.


curb the excesses of the Patriot Act,


Oh so you think the Act can be salvaged? That's an inconsistent position for you to take.


leave medical marijuana clinics alone


Article II Section 3 of the United States Constitution "... he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed...". Federal law dictates that marijuana is an illegal drug and mandates certain actions by Federal agencies. Obama's role in this instance is to enforce the law as written. This is an issue you should take up with Congress.


Being really sad over dozens of people effectively interned at Guantanamo for years without trial.


Which illustrates that you know jack shiat about the law, including international law, when it comes to the issue of detainees in Guantanamo.
 
2013-01-12 12:35:41 PM

Tax Boy: Silverstaff: 8. Uptight, heartless prick who got the office because the guy before him got shot.

Yeah, that LBJ was one heartless bastard:

Landmark Laws of the Lyndon B. Johnson Administration

-----1963-----
College Facilities
Clean Air
Vocational Education
Indian Vocational Training
Manpower Training


-----1964-----
Inter-American Development Bank
Kennedy Cultural Center
Tax Reduction
Presidential Transition
Federal Airport Aid
Farm Program
Chamizal Convention
Pesticide Controls
International Development Association
Civil Rights Act of 1964
Campobello International Park
Urban Mass Transit
Water Resources Research
Federal Highway
Civil Service Pay Raise
War on Poverty
Criminal Justice
Truth-in-Securities
Medicine Bow National Forest
Ozark Scenic Riverway
Administrative Conference
Fort Bowie Historic Site
Food StampHousing Act
Interest Equalization
Wilderness Areas
Nurse Training
Revenues for Recreation
Fire Island National Seashore
Library Services
Federal Employee Health Benefits


-----1965-----
Medicare
Aid to Education
Higher Education
Four Year Farm Program
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Housing Act
Social Security Increase
Voting Rights
Fair Immigration Law
Older Americans
Heart, Cancer, Stroke Program
Law Enforcement Assistance
National Crime Commission
Drug Controls
Mental Health Facilities
Health Professions
Medical Libraries
Vocational Rehabilitation
Anti-Poverty Program
Arts and Humanities Foundation
Aid to Appalachia
Highway BeautyClean Air
Water Pollution Control
High Speed Transit
Manpower Training
Presidential Disability
Child Health
Regional Development
Aid to Small Businesses
Weather-Predicting Services
Military Pay Increase
GI Life Insurance
Community Health Services
Water Resources Council
Water Desalting
Assateague National Seashore
Whiskeytown National Recreation Area
Delaware Water Gap Recreation Area
Juvenile Delinquency Control
Arms Control
Strengthening U.N. Charter
International Coffee Agreement
Retirement for Public Servan ...


How much of that was in the works under Kennedy?

Not to say that LBJ wasn't pretty damn spiffy for putting his name on all the stuff that passed, but how much of it would have wound up being part of the legacy of Camelot if The CIA, FBI, NASA, Teamsters, AFL/CIO, and Desi Arnaz didn't assassinate Kennedy?
 
2013-01-12 12:36:38 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: Stone Meadow: Wow...lots of conservative butt-hurt in this thread.

Only one president is allowed to waste billions on Star Wars.


BURN.
 
2013-01-12 12:39:01 PM
Did everyone vote for Obama?
 
2013-01-12 12:39:22 PM
This is the solution you are looking for.
www.plywoodcompany.com
 
2013-01-12 12:42:01 PM

Stone Meadow: Well, that understandable. What I don't get, though, is the whiny spat-throwing over such trivial matters as complaining that the WH takes the time to engage constructively with petitioners instead of telling folks to STFU and GBTW. It seems that the better job the President does the worse conservatives like him. I wonder what could prompt that?


This. We had eight years of Bush and his "Yee-haaw! Let Jesus take the wheel" approach to anything involving science, education or critical thinking. Eight years of senior cabinet posts stuffed with retards from Regent University.  (After all, if you're an idiot to begin with, the only way you can make yourself appear brilliant is to surround yourself with people even dumber than you. Bush never wavered from this policy during his entire administration).

That they would engage the public AT ALL and actually give a crap about what the people who pay their salaries think is a minor but very refreshing change.
 
2013-01-12 12:42:23 PM

robohobo: pedrop357: VRaptor117: Yeah, forget about the continuation of warrant-less wiretapping, NDAA, the complete lack of control over the financial sector, and the current push to disarm ordinary Americans, one Obama bureaucrat made some Star Wars references!! HAHAHA!

HAHAHA!

HAHA!

HA. The coolest.

This. As long as his administration has a little fun every now and again, a lot of people seem to be willing to give it a nice set of passes.

He only really got energized in any meaningful way to push the health care act and now more gun control.

Where was this Obama last term to push closing Guantanamo, stop warrant less wiretapping, become more transparent, curb the excesses of the Patriot Act, leave medical marijuana clinics alone or any of the other things alluded to or outright promised during his 2008 campaign?

I don't recall him demanding action, setting deadlines, convening blue ribbon panels, shedding any crocodile tears, or putting out any bullshiat staged photos of him being really sad over dozens of people effectively interned at Guantanamo for years without trial.

I doubt he sheds any tears for all the innocent people killed by his administration's use of drones or all the people who die in the drug war related violence that his administration happily continues.

He's a self-centered celebrity and a craven, opportunistic piece of shiat.

Racist.


What's cute is, I already have you marked as a racist...so that post was just a perfect confirmation.

It's adorable. You're like this little warped automaton, spewing idiocy whenever a certain stimulus happens. I wonder if you can develop patterns, like a furby...? Awesome.
 
2013-01-12 12:44:14 PM
Well these guys are bummed.

i1353.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-12 12:44:21 PM
LMAO!

Strong with the troll is the white house.
 
2013-01-12 12:44:26 PM

Harry_Seldon: Dimensio: Once again, President Obama proves himself to be inexcusably weak on intergalactic defense.

The Death Star is not a defensive weapon.


Mutually assured Death Star destruction is a defense.
 
2013-01-12 12:46:15 PM

Dimensio: Once again, President Obama proves himself to be inexcusably weak on intergalactic defense.


.@BarackObama Darth Cheney: "You're far too trusting, we'll deal with your middle-class friends soon enough...you may fire when ready."
 
2013-01-12 12:47:19 PM

Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: We are living in the future! Enjoy it. Or better yet, help build it by pursuing a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field. The President has held the first-ever White House science fairs and Astronomy Night on the South Lawn because he knows these domains are critical to our country's future, and to ensuring the United States continues leading the world in doing big things.

Why should we encourage our children to pursue STEM degrees when you haven't been able to stop corporate America from sending the goddamned tech jobs out of the country?


GE is not alone in moving the manufacture of many of its products back to the U.S. The transformation under way at Appliance Park is mirrored in dozens of other places, with Whirlpool bringing mixer-making back from China to Ohio, Otis bringing elevator production back from Mexico to South Carolina, even Wham-O bringing Frisbee-molding back from China to California. The Boston Company published a paper in May on ways for investors to capitalize on the U.S. factory revival. ISI Group, an investment-research company, put out a 98‑page report in August, piling up reasons for the return of a strong U.S. industrial sector. Nancy Lazar, who co-authored the ISI Group report, says, "This is the beginning of a manufacturing renaissance. I've been saying this since 2009. Even the industrial companies told me I was crazy. Why are they telling me I'm crazy? Because they've spent the last 15 or 20 years putting the plants outside the U.S. That's over."

If the administration does not encourage STEM education, a huge opportunity is going to be lost.
 
2013-01-12 12:48:41 PM

Clemkadidlefark: .. because that's the way liberal Democrats think. No understanding of consequences. Borrow big, spend big, claim it's somebody else's fault.


These kind of trolls are unfathomable....

Then again, Dubya did ensure two wars would be fully funded  Same goes for adding Medicare Parts A & B. Those two things would have cost us a trillion dollars a decade if not for conservative fiscal discipline.
 
2013-01-12 12:48:56 PM

Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: We are living in the future! Enjoy it. Or better yet, help build it by pursuing a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field. The President has held the first-ever White House science fairs and Astronomy Night on the South Lawn because he knows these domains are critical to our country's future, and to ensuring the United States continues leading the world in doing big things.

Why should we encourage our children to pursue STEM degrees when you haven't been able to stop corporate America from sending the goddamned tech jobs out of the country?


The resulting surplus of qualified labor will drive wages to a competitive level.
 
2013-01-12 12:53:39 PM

dolphinburger: glad they turned something silly into an important talking point. STEM education is really lacking in this country, and I don't think anybody is doing enough to get kids better at science and math.


And they want to prevent the immigrants from coming in from better educated countries who can pick up the slack.
 
2013-01-12 12:59:27 PM

Geeves00: Dimensio: TheManofPA: adjmcloon: But building a Death Star with that vulnerability would be EXACTLY what the gov't would normally do.

Think of all the innocent contractors that could be killed too when working on a second govt Death Star project

Any contractor working on that Death Star knows the risk involved. If they get killed, it is their own fault.

All those innocent contractors brought in to do the job were killed - casualties of a war they had nothing to do with. All right, look: you're a roofer, some juicy government contract comes your way. You got a wife and kids, the two-story in suburbia. This is a government contract, which means all sorts of benefits. Along come these left-wing militants that blast everything within a three-mile radius with their lasers. You didn't ask for that. You have no personal politics. You're just trying to scrape out a living.


As much as I'm enjoying the Clerks banter, I have to take umbrage with the "innocent contractors" nonsense.

First, the use of droid labor is extensive in Star Wars. The vast majority of structural assembly would be done by industrial droids like binary load-lifters or EVS droids.

Second, why would the Empire use civilian contractors on a project they wanted kept secret (or at least secret enough to make the Bothan intel believable? They nationalized a number of commercial guilds after the Clone Wars (except the Banking Clan); they would easily have the resources to internally handle the construction process, albeit at a rate not satisfactory to Palpatine.

Finally, let's assume they did hire outside contractors. What companies are they going to trust with this project? Corellian Engineering? The Empire knew CEC was selling CR90 corvettes and DP20 gunships out the back door. Incom? Not after their design team bailed with the T-65 blueprints; hell, the Empire won't even buy the I-7 Howlrunner in large quantities. Alderaan Royal Engineers? They blew that chance - literally. Kuat Drive Yards and Sinear Fleet Systems? They're so far in bed with the Empire, there's no room for "innocent" there.

TL; DR: I like Kevin Smith and Clerks, but the "innocent contractors" argument is a load of poodoo.
 
2013-01-12 01:03:34 PM

Fark Me To Tears: Why should we encourage our children to pursue STEM degrees when you haven't been able to stop corporate America from sending the goddamned tech jobs out of the country?


The tech jobs, by and large, are leaving the country (or going to H1B candidates) purely because there aren't enough qualified candidates otherwise. Even with the global recruiting my company does, we can't come close to reaching the point where we ever stop looking for more people. Nobody has ever failed to get a job because there weren't positions open. Without H1Bs we'd never even hit our minimum needs to remain in operation. Has nothing to do with salary (ours are among the highest in our field); there simply aren't enough talented people in the STEM fields to meet our needs.
 
2013-01-12 01:07:34 PM

Silverstaff: pudding7: I've never heard or read about wormholes being used for space travel in the Star Wars universe.

{Star Wars Geek Mode}

There is are a handful of canonical examples of wormholes in Star Wars lore.

One is actually tied to the Death Star, or at least the Death Star II (From RotJ).

When the second Death Star was destroyed, the uncontrolled collapse of the largest hypermatter reactor ever built created a wormhole through hyperspace that sucked in much of the debris of the Death Star and deposited into the Mon Calamari star system.

It was originally from a 1992 young adult novel called "The Glove of Darth Vader", explaining how Vaders severed hand and glove survived the destruction of the Death Star and became a sacred relic for Imperial loyalists in the aftermath of the death of Palpatine.

Later writers have fleshed the entire thing out, since it also provides a nice, canonical reason for why Endor survived the destruction of the Death Star in low orbit, even though some fans (Curtis Saxton most notably) argue it would be physically impossible for a habitable world to survive that much debris.

Also, in the Dark Empire comic series, Reborn Palpatine had progressed so far as a Sith Lord that he had learned how to rip apart space with the dark side, and could actually use the Force to create wormholes, which is how he abducted Luke to bring him to his new throne world of Byss. He also could weaponize this ability, creating unstable rips in space to attack entire fleets.

However, for what BronyMedic was saying about wormhole points, no, in Star Wars wormholes do not work that way. Heck, even hyperdrives don't work that way, you can jump from any place where the gravity isn't too strong (or an interdiction field is disrupting hyperspace access), thats why ships carry nav computers and astromech droids.

{/Star Wars Geek Mode}


I've come to terms with Episode I. Jar-Jar doesn't even make me rage anymore. I can laugh at the Holiday Special, and I feel bad for Alan Dean Foster for Splinter of the Mind's Eye.

But the Young Jedi Prince series is absolute garbage. It is terrible, even compared to the other Young Adult books written over the years. I don't care what the wankers in that section of Wookiepedia say, that shiat Is. Not. Canon. At. Farking. All.
 
2013-01-12 01:18:06 PM
*thread jack***

Can anyone tell me where the aaron swartz thread is on Fark?

**end thread jack***
 
2013-01-12 01:18:55 PM

PonceAlyosha: Harry_Seldon: Dimensio: Once again, President Obama proves himself to be inexcusably weak on intergalactic defense.

The Death Star is not a defensive weapon.

It is if you're going against the Vong.


This. I'd love it if the end of the new Star Wars movies reveals that the Empire was created to help defend against some Vong-like threat, and the Rebels doomed billions by blowing up the Death Stars.
 
2013-01-12 01:22:40 PM

UNC_Samurai: Geeves00: Dimensio: TheManofPA: adjmcloon: But building a Death Star with that vulnerability would be EXACTLY what the gov't would normally do.

Think of all the innocent contractors that could be killed too when working on a second govt Death Star project

Any contractor working on that Death Star knows the risk involved. If they get killed, it is their own fault.

All those innocent contractors brought in to do the job were killed - casualties of a war they had nothing to do with. All right, look: you're a roofer, some juicy government contract comes your way. You got a wife and kids, the two-story in suburbia. This is a government contract, which means all sorts of benefits. Along come these left-wing militants that blast everything within a three-mile radius with their lasers. You didn't ask for that. You have no personal politics. You're just trying to scrape out a living.

As much as I'm enjoying the Clerks banter, I have to take umbrage with the "innocent contractors" nonsense.

First, the use of droid labor is extensive in Star Wars. The vast majority of structural assembly would be done by industrial droids like binary load-lifters or EVS droids.

Second, why would the Empire use civilian contractors on a project they wanted kept secret (or at least secret enough to make the Bothan intel believable? They nationalized a number of commercial guilds after the Clone Wars (except the Banking Clan); they would easily have the resources to internally handle the construction process, albeit at a rate not satisfactory to Palpatine.

Finally, let's assume they did hire outside contractors. What companies are they going to trust with this project? Corellian Engineering? The Empire knew CEC was selling CR90 corvettes and DP20 gunships out the back door. Incom? Not after their design team bailed with the T-65 blueprints; hell, the Empire won't even buy the I-7 Howlrunner in large quantities. Alderaan Royal Engineers? They blew that chance - literally. Kuat Dri ...


You just ruined an excellent movie scene shot before 1994 by pointing out nonsense in the expanded universe.
 
2013-01-12 01:31:12 PM

Mrs.Sharpier: *thread jack***

Can anyone tell me where the aaron swartz thread is on Fark?

**end thread jack***


It's hanging around here somewhere...
 
2013-01-12 01:33:08 PM
www.freakingnews.com
 
2013-01-12 01:33:32 PM

Mrs.Sharpier: *thread jack***

Can anyone tell me where the aaron swartz thread is on Fark?

**end thread jack***


Uh, I don't know. Is he an entertainer or something?
 
2013-01-12 01:35:16 PM
How many Bothans dies to bring us that petition? :)
 
2013-01-12 01:46:11 PM

Mad_Radhu: PonceAlyosha: Harry_Seldon: Dimensio: Once again, President Obama proves himself to be inexcusably weak on intergalactic defense.

The Death Star is not a defensive weapon.

It is if you're going against the Vong.

This. I'd love it if the end of the new Star Wars movies reveals that the Empire was created to help defend against some Vong-like threat, and the Rebels doomed billions by blowing up the Death Stars.


In the Essential Guide to Warfare, there's a piece written by a Palpatine/Thrawn apologist who suggests this.
 
2013-01-12 01:47:48 PM
The Obama jizz patrol is strong in this thread.

When you get your paycheck, so happy you will be you will not. Reality will not be your friend.
 
2013-01-12 01:49:22 PM
Just cover it up with plywood or something.
 
2013-01-12 01:54:43 PM

Silverstaff: utah dude: Silverstaff: blastr.com

can we please get a nonghey president? maybe one with a 'responsible adult, leader' package?

Let's look at our prior choices:

1. Idiot from Texas on a mission from God.
2. Charming lecherous womanizer, elected mainly because he is a great public speaker.
3. Bland guy who was elected mainly because his competition for the job looked like a doofus when he climbed into a tank.
4. B-Movie Actor elected mainly because he gives good speeches and was photogenic.
5. Naive peanut farmer who turned out to be better as a goodwill ambassador than a President.
6. Unelected ineffectual clutz.
7. Slimy, oily crook that was the most corrupt POTUS in the 20th century.
8. Uptight, heartless prick who got the office because the guy before him got shot.
9. Charming womanizer elected mainly because he was a great public speaker and was a war hero.

We don't elect our Presidents for being a "responsible, adult leader". We choose them mainly on if they are a good public speaker, are photogenic on camera and on TV, and if they seem likable to a majority of people.


We haven't elected a president since 1960, and look what happened to him.
 
2013-01-12 01:56:36 PM

Harry_Seldon: Dimensio: Once again, President Obama proves himself to be inexcusably weak on intergalactic defense.

The Death Star is not a defensive weapon.


Offense is the best defense
 
2013-01-12 01:56:56 PM

Mart Laar's beard shaver: The Obama jizz patrol is strong in this thread.

When you get your paycheck, so happy you will be you will not. Reality will not be your friend.


HaHaHa!

Like jobs any of us have!!
 
2013-01-12 01:57:22 PM

Mart Laar's beard shaver: The Obama jizz patrol is strong in this thread.

When you get your paycheck, so happy you will be you will not. Reality will not be your friend.


The Breitbart idolizer is concerned.
 
2013-01-12 02:01:30 PM
The Empire cut corners during construction. A simple device not unlike a chimney hat could have provided cost effective security.

image.made-in-china.com
 
2013-01-12 02:08:11 PM
i1290.photobucket.com

I'm starting to see Darth Gingrichious' long game. First he tries to shut down the government, then he wants a "moon base".
 
2013-01-12 02:11:10 PM

LordJiro: Y'know, come to think of it, having a fatal flaw like that isn't necessarily a BAD thing...as long as you don't let the farking schematics get stolen.

People WITHOUT the schematics aren't gonna know to exploit that flaw, and you CAN exploit it if, somehow, you lose control over the station (invasion, mutiny, or whatever).


Probably why it got left alone. Even given that it was built using mostly slave labor, Vader had to have thought 'yeah, this is a good plan'.

Which was promptly followed by 'oh, crap, my plans got stolen', but hey, shiat happens.
 
2013-01-12 02:11:21 PM

Mad_Radhu: PonceAlyosha: Harry_Seldon: Dimensio: Once again, President Obama proves himself to be inexcusably weak on intergalactic defense.

The Death Star is not a defensive weapon.

It is if you're going against the Vong.

This. I'd love it if the end of the new Star Wars movies reveals that the Empire was created to help defend against some Vong-like threat, and the Rebels doomed billions by blowing up the Death Stars.


It is a in-setting theory put forth in several books where apologists for the Empire (and Imperial loyalists) claim that the Vong was the real reason for the Empire in the first place.

It is COMPLETELY speculation, even within the setting, but the idea is that Palpatine had some kind of advance warning of the Vong and their scale. Since Thrawn was from the Unknown Regions his people may have had prior contact with them and been able to warn Palpatine.

They also retconned Vergere into being a Sith Apprentice, having been apprenticed briefly to Palpatine after the death of Darth Maul, but after being lost on Zonama Sekot he abandoned her and took Dooku as his next apprentice. (Thus all her strange revelations about the Force, her "long lost Jedi teachings" she was passing along that contradicted decades of Star Wars lore, was all Sith heresies and she was trying to subvert the entire Jedi order to the Dark Side). Thus, also Vergere, the person who knew the most about the Vong, also knew Palpatine.

The theory is that the "real" use for the Death Stars was to blow up Yuuzhan Vong Worldships. Yeah, an entire fleet couldn't take them normally, but one hit from a Death Star would vaporize them, so the DS could mow down the Vong before they could get going (I think in the NJO series a few times they lament that they wish they had kept a few of those superweapons Palpatine built, as they finally had a need for them). It also provides a retroactive justification for the incredibly huge Imperial military with no apparent enemy.

Again, no proof, but it's a fan theory, and it's apparently thrown around in-setting too.
 
2013-01-12 02:16:39 PM

Mart Laar's beard shaver: The Obama jizz patrol is strong in this thread.

When you get your paycheck, so happy you will be you will not. Reality will not be your friend.


I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
 
2013-01-12 02:18:37 PM
I don't see why not. These would be hydrospanner-ready jobs.
 
2013-01-12 02:20:13 PM

david_gaithersburg: [www.freakingnews.com image 850x1234]


Oh look...someone's butthurt.
 
2013-01-12 02:20:42 PM
Damn it. I'm voting for McCain.
 
2013-01-12 02:21:21 PM

Mart Laar's beard shaver: The Obama jizz patrol is strong in this thread.


images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-01-12 02:23:43 PM

Orange-Pippin: FirstNationalBastard: Mid_mo_mad_man: Rather have them start on the NX class of ship. Much better and more usefull

The NX Class?

No one wants to remember Enterprise!

No, better they start on the Daedalus class. It doesn't have the stink of Enterprise on it, and it looks kind of cool...

[drexfiles.files.wordpress.com image 850x538]

Lame. If your going to go retro...go Naglfar.

[i.imgur.com image 850x641]


3 jumps out from Jita in my Arbitrator when I read this post.

/Really getting a kick...
 
2013-01-12 02:25:07 PM
"We are living in the future! Enjoy it." - TFA / Petition Response

Yes, because the Death Star was built, destroyed, and built again a long time ago.

/in a galaxy far, far away.
 
2013-01-12 02:26:28 PM
Even Hitler knew how to be funny every once in a while
 
2013-01-12 02:39:03 PM
They can't throw in an extra $10 to add a couple grates to the vent?
 
2013-01-12 02:42:28 PM
Yet no problem spending TRILLIONs on the "war" on poverty for the last 70 years. How's that going? Have we won? Channeling George W. Bush....
 
2013-01-12 02:47:57 PM

Infernalist: Guarantee that the GOP will make whiny noises about the Administration's open reference to the Force...Something that religious retards have said is a veil for Satanism.


Lol! Perfect! GOP, "Hey Obama, welcome to the force, Satan". Obama, "WTF"!
 
2013-01-12 02:48:07 PM
i49.tinypic.com

I keed! This is some funny shiat.
 
2013-01-12 02:51:37 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Mid_mo_mad_man: Rather have them start on the NX class of ship. Much better and more usefull

The NX Class?

No one wants to remember Enterprise!

No, better they start on the Daedalus class. It doesn't have the stink of Enterprise on it, and it looks kind of cool...

[drexfiles.files.wordpress.com image 850x538]


I think we built that in 2001.
 
2013-01-12 02:51:49 PM
Awesomesauce.
 
2013-01-12 02:55:22 PM
It's good to see the petition site given the seriousness it deserves.
 
2013-01-12 03:01:06 PM

djkutch: Damn it. I'm voting for McCain.


Not me, but then again I sure as hell am not voting for Obama again.
 
2013-01-12 03:04:24 PM
How many Bothans died declining this petition.
 
2013-01-12 03:07:51 PM
I can't believe you guys runied the party by telling them that a couple of torpedoes down a 2 meter exhaust vent will completely destroy their small death planet...

This is why we can't have nice things...
 
2013-01-12 03:08:16 PM

Harry_Seldon: Dimensio: Once again, President Obama proves himself to be inexcusably weak on intergalactic defense.

The Death Star is not a defensive weapon.


The state of Kentucky defines a "deadly weapon" as:
(a) A weapon of mass destruction;
(b) Any weapon from which a shot, readily capable of producing death or other serious physical injury, may be discharged;
(c) Any knife other than an ordinary pocket knife or hunting knife; (d) Billy, nightstick, or club; (e) Blackjack or slapjack; (f) Nunchaku karate sticks;
(g) Shuriken or death star; or
(h) Artificial knuckles made from metal, plastic, or other similar hard material;

A concealed deadly weapons license issued by the state allows a civilian to carry any "deadly weapon" concealed on their person. As such, an individual so licensed may, if they choose, carry a death star concealed on their person. The purpose of carrying concealed deadly weapons is personal defense. As such, logically, a death star may be used as a defensive weapon.
 
2013-01-12 03:20:27 PM
A Death Star is not cost efficient. all you need to destroy a planet is to accelerate a big rock to say .5 light speed. Its not like a planet can evade it. I think the Emperor made the Death Star to compensate for something.
 
2013-01-12 04:00:09 PM

HeartBurnKid: So, you don't remember the executive order he issued to close Guantanamo that Congress immediately moved to block by cutting off the funding?


Yep. Congress loves when presidents do end runs around them with Executive Orders

No press conference, so (staged) sad Obama pics, no calls for action, no blue ribbon panels, no setting deadlines for congressional action. Repeat for all the biggies in his campaign-transparency, curbing patriot act abuses, etc.

Then go to all the stuff he has signed that expand abuses-the NDAA, patriot act revisions OR all the stuff he hasn't tried to do via EO like tell his AG to order the DEA to deprioritize maedical marijuana busts.

As for transparency, just look at the Fast and Furious stuff-all his supporters claim he and the members of his administration did nothing wrong, it was Bush's fault , whatever. Why then the administration invoke executive privilege for documents related to the scandal, why did Holder refuse to show up at the hearings?

As for being a nice guy with compassion, he has the stingiest clemency/commutation record of all presidents. As this article points out, he makes Richard Nixon look like a softy.

Just once I'd like to see the recently charged up Obama go after repealing something or rolling back something rather than only using that 'power' for pushing new things on all of us.

Take the Obama who was a cheerleader for the health care act, and is demanding immediate action for gun control, and try to find that Obama spearheading efforts to implement any of the civil liberties or transparency stuff he promised.
 
2013-01-12 04:00:15 PM
He might be getting ideas though.

i5.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-12 04:04:46 PM

Fubar: kazikian: Was there ever any response to those secession petitions?

Yep.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-everyone-signed-peti t ion-withdraw-their-state-united-states-america/dmQl1bXL


I mean from the whiehouse (and you knew that ;)
 
2013-01-12 04:05:44 PM

pedrop357: OhioUGrad: I totally forgot that ONE person could do everything in Washington all by themselves without assistance from anyone else or Congress.....totally how the presidency works!

But

If you pull the president's dick out of your mouth and reread what I wrote, you'll see that I directed my attention at Obama and things he does and does not do.

Congress does not set his priorities, nor does it force to him to demand deadlines from Congress. Obama seems to be very light on calling for any action on the things that were so important during his 2008 campaign and THAT is why I posted what I did.

If you want to pretend that he's just this great guy who just can't do all the great things he wanted to because of Congress, fine. Just make sure to wipe your chin when he's done.


You're a real asshole, dude.. You might've had a point, but it was basically destroyed by the vitriol of your comment. Dissolved like that one guy in Robocop.
 
2013-01-12 04:07:59 PM

dolphinburger: glad they turned something silly into an important talking point. STEM education is really lacking in this country, and I don't think anybody is doing enough to get kids better at science and math.


Do any of you guys saying we need more "STEM" education in this country ever actually talk to someone who just got a PhD in "STEM"? You'll probably make more money right now with an underwater welding certification that you will with a PhD in physics...
 
2013-01-12 04:15:08 PM

ZeroPly: "STEM"? You'll probably make more money right now with an underwater welding certification that you will with a PhD in physics...


or biostatistics.
 
2013-01-12 04:27:20 PM

TV's Vinnie: How many Bothans died declining this petition.


Many.
 
2013-01-12 04:28:09 PM

ZeroPly: dolphinburger: glad they turned something silly into an important talking point. STEM education is really lacking in this country, and I don't think anybody is doing enough to get kids better at science and math.

Do any of you guys saying we need more "STEM" education in this country ever actually talk to someone who just got a PhD in "STEM"? You'll probably make more money right now with an underwater welding certification that you will with a PhD in physics...


No one is suggesting that education in science, technology, engineering or math is limited to getting a PhD in physics, but from your profile I'm going to guess that you don't really care and I just gave your deliberate strawman a bite, but whatever.
 
2013-01-12 04:32:13 PM

Cubansaltyballs: The Obama admin is officially the coolest ever.


I gotta agree. Though I voted for him (lessor of two evils) I've been critical of this administration. This response goes a long way to changing that. There may be hope yet.
 
2013-01-12 04:34:02 PM

fusillade762: dethmagnetic: I love that we live in a world where not only does the office of the most powerful man on earth issue a formal response to a request to build an orbital death station, but actually manages to be cool about it.

I like Obama plenty, but he didn't write that.

By Paul Shawcross

Paul Shawcross is Chief of the Science and Space Branch at the White House Office of Management and Budget


But one IS known by the company one keeps. Shawcross's Cool has to rub off on Obama.
 
2013-01-12 04:36:23 PM

werty789: A Death Star is not cost efficient. all you need to destroy a planet is to accelerate a big rock to say .5 light speed. Its not like a planet can evade it. I think the Emperor made the Death Star to compensate for something.


Why bother using an asteroid as a planetary weapon at sub-light speeds? Your target could potentially detect it en route and employ countermeasures.

It would be better to propel the planet-busting asteroid with a hyperdrive unit lacking the usual anti-collision/gravity well safety mechanisms. The asteroid would be undetectable until it suddenly materialized near its target, minutes or seconds before impact.
 
2013-01-12 04:38:58 PM

utah dude: or biostatistics.


If you can't get a good job with a PhD in biostats, you are not trying very hard.
 
2013-01-12 04:40:16 PM
Omg Obama is just the best president we ever had. I am gushing over him. Kinda have a man crush... He is basically god.
 
2013-01-12 04:42:37 PM

Lonestar: I wish they would start thinking about real goals, like space elevators. That way we can start building the Entreprise before the transporters are ready.

I know they are starting to think about space mining.


I'd actually get behind something like that. I've got skills. Accounting, Excel, business sense. But I've been out of permanent work going on 5 years now. (Everyone tells me I've got a great resume, but what it comes down to is that I'm too old, too fat, and in many cases too white to compete is a field that is increasingly more about packaging than content.) We're comfortable: the wife's disability, the continuing UI, the CalFresh, the forthcoming Section 8 housing (approved; 1 bdr, nice area, great complex, for $188/month; thanks mr. taxpayer), all means that we are now/will be actually living better than many people who are working. paying taxes, and supporting us.

But I really would like to work. Why the hell, instead of giving billions to Fat Cat mega-corporations that are "too big to fail" (which is bullshiat of the highest magnitude) can't the Obama Administration start a new WPA for the (still) millions of unemployed people in this country?
 
2013-01-12 04:52:22 PM

Mixolydian Master: pedrop357: Mouthfoam!1!

**ignore


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-12 04:54:06 PM

KawaiiNot: Well these guys are bummed.

[i1353.photobucket.com image 667x1000]


Thanks, I've wasted the entire afternoon on awesome.
 
2013-01-12 05:00:56 PM

Dimensio: Once again, President Obama proves himself to be inexcusably weak on intergalactic defense.


It hardly matters.  I've just received word that the President has dissolved the Senate permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.
 
2013-01-12 05:02:48 PM

Silverstaff: utah dude: Silverstaff: blastr.com

can we please get a nonghey president? maybe one with a 'responsible adult, leader' package?

Let's look at our prior choices:

1. Idiot from Texas on a mission from God.
2. Charming lecherous womanizer, elected mainly because he is a great public speaker.
3. Bland guy who was elected mainly because his competition for the job looked like a doofus when he climbed into a tank.
4. B-Movie Actor elected mainly because he gives good speeches and was photogenic.
5. Naive peanut farmer who turned out to be better as a goodwill ambassador than a President.
6. Unelected ineffectual clutz.
7. Slimy, oily crook that was the most corrupt POTUS in the 20th century.
8. Uptight, heartless prick who got the office because the guy before him got shot.
9. Charming womanizer elected mainly because he was a great public speaker and was a war hero.

We don't elect our Presidents for being a "responsible, adult leader". We choose them mainly on if they are a good public speaker, are photogenic on camera and on TV, and if they seem likable to a majority of people.


Yes. It's amazing that we've survived as long as we have.

Though I have to say:
1. Bush, whether he meant to or not, knocked over the Middle East chess board and created a sea change in the culture. Link
2. Actually, Clinton was a pretty effective President, in several ways.
3. Bush Sr., with his CIA background, was a good choice for the post-SU years
4. Reagan did, after all, fake out the Evil Empire; and his "we start bombing in 5 minutes" "accidental" (it wasn't) interlude was a hoot.
5. Actually, nothing good to say about Carter, either
6. Actually, nothing good to say about Ford, either
7. Nixon DID go to China (and only he could have).
8. Actually, nothing good to say about LBJ, either
9. JFK actually lowered the tax rates.
 
2013-01-12 05:03:32 PM
Fluorescent Testicle:

i32.tinypic.com
President Obama, the blackest brother in the galaxy.  Nubian god!
 
2013-01-12 05:04:24 PM

RussianPooper: Silverstaff: 7. Slimy, oily crook that was the most corrupt POTUS in the 20th century.

Actually, his sins seem kind of quaint now.


He SHOWED THE WAY!
 
2013-01-12 05:05:10 PM

dickfreckle: dethmagnetic: I love that we live in a world where not only does the office of the most powerful man on earth issue a formal response to a request to build an orbital death station, but actually manages to be cool about it.

That was my response, too. Having a genuine sense of humor immediately ups my opinion of a person. I'm sorry, but even the younger/ish members of the GOP simply don't have this. Have you ever watched Paul Ryan attempt a joke? Just...just don't, man. I'm sorry to have even brought it up.

And while you were careful to mention that it was not Obama himself who wrote it, for some reason I can totally see the president pulling a stunt like this. If he's not a Star Wars fan (Jesus, who isn't, seriously?), it would be something else. I've signed several sports-related petitions and, given his famous sports interest, would probably shart myself if he wrote back in similar fashion.


www.vanityfair.com
The president does have a sense of humor, no doubt.
 
2013-01-12 05:08:48 PM

Sum Dum Gai: Fark Me To Tears: Why should we encourage our children to pursue STEM degrees when you haven't been able to stop corporate America from sending the goddamned tech jobs out of the country?

The tech jobs, by and large, are leaving the country (or going to H1B candidates) purely because there aren't enough qualified candidates otherwise. Even with the global recruiting my company does, we can't come close to reaching the point where we ever stop looking for more people. Nobody has ever failed to get a job because there weren't positions open. Without H1Bs we'd never even hit our minimum needs to remain in operation. Has nothing to do with salary (ours are among the highest in our field); there simply aren't enough talented people in the STEM fields to meet our needs.


As a guess, are your offering wages "competitive" or whatever the usual BS term is these days, instead of, you know, actually good?

I ask because usually labor markets will provide what you need. See the thread on Brazilian hoes learning English in prep for the 2014 World Cup. English-speaking ladies of negotiable affection make more money (as they have a larger potential client base), so the supply is increasing to meet the demand.

More on-topic, there's some slack supply of engineers in the USA already - they left the profession a while back in favor of used car sales, martial arts instruction, unemployment, or other such fields that had a future. I'm sure some of them could be persuaded to get back in.
 
2013-01-12 05:13:05 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Mid_mo_mad_man: The problem with a Deathstar is the lack of support ships. The armaments include one laser and assorted fighters. If you occupy the fighters and dodge the laser it's a easy victor. You would need a fleet of support ships to help defend it. It would be more cost effective to build a fleet of constellation class starships.

Ooh...

Constellation class ships?

[www.neutralzone.de image 754x581]

[drexfiles.files.wordpress.com image 850x458]

I've always liked the look of those.


Sigh. Amateurs.

screenshots.filesnetwork.com
 
2013-01-12 05:13:53 PM

pedrop357: If you pull the president's dick out of your mouth and reread what I wrote, you'll see that ....


And I stopped reading right there.   Whatever valid point you may have had is totally lost in your belligerence, and overall nastiness.

Maybe you don't care, or maybe getting told you're going on people's ignore lists makes you happy.  But if you're trying to make anyone listen to you who doesn't already agree with you in the first place, you're failing, and you need to calm down.

But then again, this is FARK, and I totally respect your right to screech and fling poo.  I'll just be other there, not getting poo flung on me. Carry on.
 
2013-01-12 05:16:42 PM

Tax Boy: Silverstaff: 8. Uptight, heartless prick who got the office because the guy before him got shot.

Yeah, that LBJ was one heartless bastard:

Landmark Laws of the Lyndon B. Johnson Administration

-----1963-----
College Facilities
Clean Air
Vocational Education
Indian Vocational Training
Manpower Training


-----1964-----
Inter-American Development Bank
Kennedy Cultural Center
Tax Reduction
Presidential Transition
Federal Airport Aid
Farm Program
Chamizal Convention
Pesticide Controls
International Development Association
Civil Rights Act of 1964
Campobello International Park
Urban Mass Transit
Water Resources Research
Federal Highway
Civil Service Pay Raise
War on Poverty
Criminal Justice
Truth-in-Securities
Medicine Bow National Forest
Ozark Scenic Riverway
Administrative Conference
Fort Bowie Historic Site
Food StampHousing Act
Interest Equalization
Wilderness Areas
Nurse Training
Revenues for Recreation
Fire Island National Seashore
Library Services
Federal Employee Health Benefits


-----1965-----
Medicare
Aid to Education
Higher Education
Four Year Farm Program
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Housing Act
Social Security Increase
Voting Rights
Fair Immigration Law
Older Americans
Heart, Cancer, Stroke Program
Law Enforcement Assistance
National Crime Commission
Drug Controls
Mental Health Facilities
Health Professions
Medical Libraries
Vocational Rehabilitation
Anti-Poverty Program
Arts and Humanities Foundation
Aid to Appalachia
Highway BeautyClean Air
Water Pollution Control
High Speed Transit
Manpower Training
Presidential Disability
Child Health
Regional Development
Aid to Small Businesses
Weather-Predicting Services
Military Pay Increase
GI Life Insurance
Community Health Services
Water Resources Council
Water Desalting
Assateague National Seashore
Whiskeytown National Recreation Area
Delaware Water Gap Recreation Area
Juvenile Delinquency Control
Arms Control
Strengthening U.N. Charter
International Coffee Agreement
Retirement for Public Servan ...


Son, getting a shiatbucket of laws passed is not necessarily a good thing. You've got to look at, you know, what those laws actually accomplished. In LBJ's case, very little that was actually good for the country.
 
2013-01-12 05:20:29 PM

tillerman35: From TFA: If you do pursue a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field, the Force will be with us! Remember, the Death Star's power to destroy a planet, or even a whole star system, is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

I am outraged!!! This sad devotion to an ancient religion is clearly a violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution of The United States of America.


I find your lack of faith disturbing.
 
2013-01-12 05:22:55 PM

pedrop357: HeartBurnKid: So, you don't remember the executive order he issued to close Guantanamo that Congress immediately moved to block by cutting off the funding?

Yep. Congress loves when presidents do end runs around them with Executive Orders

No press conference, so (staged) sad Obama pics, no calls for action, no blue ribbon panels, no setting deadlines for congressional action. Repeat for all the biggies in his campaign-transparency, curbing patriot act abuses, etc.

Then go to all the stuff he has signed that expand abuses-the NDAA, patriot act revisions OR all the stuff he hasn't tried to do via EO like tell his AG to order the DEA to deprioritize maedical marijuana busts.

As for transparency, just look at the Fast and Furious stuff-all his supporters claim he and the members of his administration did nothing wrong, it was Bush's fault , whatever. Why then the administration invoke executive privilege for documents related to the scandal, why did Holder refuse to show up at the hearings?

As for being a nice guy with compassion, he has the stingiest clemency/commutation record of all presidents. As this article points out, he makes Richard Nixon look like a softy.

Just once I'd like to see the recently charged up Obama go after repealing something or rolling back something rather than only using that 'power' for pushing new things on all of us.

Take the Obama who was a cheerleader for the health care act, and is demanding immediate action for gun control, and try to find that Obama spearheading efforts to implement any of the civil liberties or transparency stuff he promised.


Yep, and for all those reasons and more liberals are deeply disappointed in Mr Obama.

Just not enough to vote for Mitt Romney.
 
2013-01-12 05:29:04 PM

UNC_Samurai: First, the use of droid labor is extensive in Star Wars. The vast majority of structural assembly would be done by industrial droids like binary load-lifters or EVS droids.

Second, why would the Empire use civilian contractors on a project they wanted kept secret (or at least secret enough to make the Bothan intel believable? They nationalized a number of commercial guilds after the Clone Wars (except the Banking Clan); they would easily have the resources to internally handle the construction process, albeit at a rate not satisfactory to Palpatine.


Not enough protocol droids fluent in Bocce, obviously.
 
2013-01-12 05:30:42 PM

Mart Laar's beard shaver: The Obama jizz patrol is strong in this thread.

When you get your paycheck, so happy you will be you will not. Reality will not be your friend.


www.operatorchan.org
 
2013-01-12 05:33:12 PM

Rwa2play: Mart Laar's beard shaver: The Obama jizz patrol is strong in this thread.

[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 350x348]


I had to create a new tag for the "give Joe the Bird" thread for all the FarkConservatives who'd come in and whinge.  I call it the "sore loser" tag.  Had to break it out again for this thread.
 
2013-01-12 05:33:20 PM

Vito Andolini: If you can't get a good job with a PhD in biostats, you are not trying very hard.


haha. yeah right. i'm a white male. they give those jobs to asian women. don't you know anything about the science fashion show? i'd have an easier time trying professional football. so i did what every white male with a similar phd did, reapplied those skills to business analytics...

...in chenistry, fell back on my undergraduate in biochemistry. chemistry is big right now and they like you more if you were educated outside of chemistry, cause u bring something new to the table. anyone can learn chem.
 
2013-01-12 05:37:25 PM

Parthenogenetic: werty789: A Death Star is not cost efficient. all you need to destroy a planet is to accelerate a big rock to say .5 light speed. Its not like a planet can evade it. I think the Emperor made the Death Star to compensate for something.

Why bother using an asteroid as a planetary weapon at sub-light speeds? Your target could potentially detect it en route and employ countermeasures.

It would be better to propel the planet-busting asteroid with a hyperdrive unit lacking the usual anti-collision/gravity well safety mechanisms. The asteroid would be undetectable until it suddenly materialized near its target, minutes or seconds before impact.


Yes, but without precise calculations it could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova, and that'd end its trip real quick, wouldn't it?
 
2013-01-12 05:39:13 PM
the current push to disarm ordinary Americans

Really ? Really, man ? An attempt to formulate a gun policy with some common sense is an attempt to disarm us ? Are you really that parnoid ? Is your self esteem so low that you have to resort to handling large phallic symbols that spray lead to compensate ?
 
2013-01-12 05:40:49 PM
Sigh...too bad. The ability to toss undesirables into the trash compactor would have been epic.
 
2013-01-12 05:46:26 PM

UNC_Samurai: I like Kevin Smith and Clerks, but the "innocent contractors" argument is a load of poodoo.



For realz. That kind of shiat belongs in a cheap comedy, not in a serious treatise on economics.
 
2013-01-12 05:48:23 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'd actually get behind something like that. I've got skills. Accounting, Excel, business sense. But I've been out of permanent work going on 5 years now. (Everyone tells me I've got a great resume, but what it comes down to is that I'm too old, too fat, and in many cases too white to compete is a field that is increasingly more about packaging than content.) We're comfortable: the wife's disability, the continuing UI, the CalFresh, the forthcoming Section 8 housing (approved; 1 bdr, nice area, great complex, for $188/month; thanks mr. taxpayer), all means that we are now/will be actually living better than many people who are working. paying taxes, and supporting us.

But I really would like to work. Why the hell, instead of giving billions to Fat Cat mega-corporations that are "too big to fail" (which is bullshiat of the highest magnitude) can't the Obama Administration start a new WPA for the (still) millions of unemployed people in this country?


repply your skills elsewhere and get off my tit already. shiat, shelve things at a thrift store for a year. i did. it demonstrates a work ethic.
 
2013-01-12 06:02:00 PM

utah dude: haha. yeah right. i'm a white male. they give those jobs to asian women.


Couldn't be that you're a hate-filled prick who writes at a 3rd grade level. Nooo...
 
2013-01-12 06:03:13 PM

Mentalpatient87: Couldn't be that you're a hate-filled prick who writes at a 3rd grade level. Nooo...


yah-no, not so much.
 
2013-01-12 06:08:00 PM

shanteyman: the current push to disarm ordinary Americans

Really ? Really, man ? An attempt to formulate a gun policy with some common sense is an attempt to disarm us ? Are you really that parnoid ? Is your self esteem so low that you have to resort to handling large phallic symbols that spray lead to compensate ?


No, but when the bill was authored by a Senator who has made NO secret that she wants to ban and confiscate guns, and you get people like Governor Cuomo coming out saying that he's in favor of confiscation, it's reasonable to be highly defensive.

Those of us who oppose additional gun control measures see what we have now as sufficient in the law, or at least see the suggestions being put forth as ridiculously overreaching.

The left isn't trying for "common sense" or a "dialogue", they are using the shootings as a pretense for an anti-gun agenda, plain and simple. Look how many Farkers come out in gun threads saying that the second amendment needs to be repealed, or that gun ownership is barbaric, or that people only want guns for penile compensation, or such. That's not reasonable, that's not "common sense".

Forget an "assault weapons" ban or restricting magazine sizes. There is no good reason to ban either of those. That's NOT "common sense". It is if you hate guns and think people shouldn't own them, but then again, that's not a common sense viewpoint either.

Want some "common sense" gun laws?

1. Give the ATF some teeth, actually let them enforce existing laws, have the Senate actually confirm a permanent director for them, remove the arbitrary restrictions on them. (Seriously, the BATF is the most hamstrung Federal law enforcement agency).

2. Make the NICS system publicly usable, to help close the "gun show loophole", by making it so that people without a FFL can check out the people they are selling to if they are making a private sale.

3. It's not a gun law, but put some funding back into our mental health system. These massacres are not committed by healthy, normal people. They are performed by people with serious problems that were a long time coming. We gutted our mental healthcare system in this country decades ago, and are reaping what we have sewn.

4. Let the issue of armed security for schools be a local issue. The NRA suggestion wouldn't work for some communities, they might hate the idea of additional armed security. Other places would love it, and are far more in favor of it. Instead of a one-size-fits-all Federal solution, amend the Gun Free Schools Act and let it be handled at the State level (or give the States the power to make it a per-district local issue).
 
2013-01-12 06:08:16 PM

Mentalpatient87: Couldn't be that you're a hate-filled prick who writes at a 3rd grade level. Nooo...


this assumption really describes the current liberal hip-hop perspective, tho' - - that is if you're a white male you're automatically rich and successful and racist. trust i'd love to be those things, but i ain't.
 
2013-01-12 06:10:03 PM
Is "The West Wing" back on the air??
 
2013-01-12 06:11:57 PM

utah dude: successful and racist. trust i'd love to be those things, but i ain't.


s/trust me/
 
2013-01-12 06:19:14 PM

Silverstaff: 1. Give the ATF some teeth, actually let them enforce existing laws, have the Senate actually confirm a permanent director for them, remove the arbitrary restrictions on them. (Seriously, the BATF is the most hamstrung Federal law enforcement agency).


This one I'll disagree with. The ATF is 'hamstrung' because they're as shady and and reviled as the IRS is/was. Read some of the Congressional findings in 1982 about just how bad they were, then move forward to things like Ruby Ridge where they basically framed Randy Weaver on a 1/2" violation on a shotgun barrel and then gave him the wrong court date. Then move forward to Waco and find them basically making up things about machine guns and grenads.

Then continue on to the all the nonsense they heap on dealers who have forms with common abbreviations-for a long time abbreviating California as CA in the state box, or parkway as pkwy were paperwork violations that each carried felony penalties. Usually the ATF would find some settlement where they got a $50,000 fine and had to agree to put up with more instances of ATF agents stopping their business for a day or two to meticulouslt go over every single form in their archive.

The ATF refuses to agree to video tape their testing in which they determine if a firearm is a machine gun. In some instances, they have to add multiple parts or partially rebuild a firearm in order to get it to fire multiple shots with each pull of the trigger.

If any agency needs even less power, it's the ATF, with the DEA millimeters behind.
 
2013-01-12 06:32:34 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Why the hell, instead of giving billions to Fat Cat mega-corporations that are "too big to fail" (which is bullshiat of the highest magnitude) can't the Obama Administration start a new WPA for the (still) millions of unemployed people in this country?


I'm sure you're aware that a) TARP was initiated under the Bush Administration and b) Obama by himself cannot do such a thing.
 
2013-01-12 06:42:00 PM

qorkfiend: I'm sure you're aware that a) TARP was initiated under the Bush Administration and b) Obama by himself cannot do such a thing.


obama can do anything he wants: he's gunna give me a free phone and pay my mortgage.
 
2013-01-12 06:50:57 PM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: Is "The West Wing" back on the air??


The merger between Sorkinvision and reality occurred somewhere in 2006-2007. We're currently living somewhere in season 10.
 
2013-01-12 08:01:34 PM

Gaseous Anomaly: As a guess, are your offering wages "competitive" or whatever the usual BS term is these days, instead of, you know, actually good?


I can't speak to anyone else's wages (pay is confidential and merit-based), but I earned $70k fresh out of college and hit six figures by year three. I've never been disappointed by the pay, especially with a low cost-of-living in the area.
 
2013-01-12 08:09:19 PM

utah dude: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'd actually get behind something like that. I've got skills. Accounting, Excel, business sense. But I've been out of permanent work going on 5 years now. (Everyone tells me I've got a great resume, but what it comes down to is that I'm too old, too fat, and in many cases too white to compete is a field that is increasingly more about packaging than content.) We're comfortable: the wife's disability, the continuing UI, the CalFresh, the forthcoming Section 8 housing (approved; 1 bdr, nice area, great complex, for $188/month; thanks mr. taxpayer), all means that we are now/will be actually living better than many people who are working. paying taxes, and supporting us.

But I really would like to work. Why the hell, instead of giving billions to Fat Cat mega-corporations that are "too big to fail" (which is bullshiat of the highest magnitude) can't the Obama Administration start a new WPA for the (still) millions of unemployed people in this country?

repply your skills elsewhere and get off my tit already. shiat, shelve things at a thrift store for a year. i did. it demonstrates a work ethic.


LOL! Tried that, and cashier at a Jack in the Box, sales guy at Big 5 - more than I can recall - dozens. The dialog (when they even bother to call) goes something like this:

"Hi, JAOCHG, this is Kevin the manager at XYZ Flopdoodle. We've reviewed your resume and you certainly have impressive qualifications. But I just have one question: With your background and experience, WHY do you want to work for us?"

[Various responses, from "I really like your company and want to get in on the ground floor" to "I need a job"]

Uh, sorry, but with your over-qualifications, we can't take a chance that you won't bail on us as soon as the economy improves. BUT THANKS FOR APPLYING, AND GOOD LUCK!"

Or, in the case of Jack in the Box, since I didn't know Spanish, and the cashier has to supervise the other employees - 4 of which ONLY spoke Spanish! - I didn't qualify for that. Hmmm..... they couldn't have been "undocumented workers" could they? Naaaa.....

fark it. I'll just kick back and remain on your tit. I voted for Obama, and you probably did so too. Elections have consequences, pal.
 
2013-01-12 08:19:11 PM

Cubansaltyballs: The Obama admin is officially the coolest ever.


My first thought when my geek friend posted this on her Facebook page.
 
2013-01-12 08:26:37 PM

utah dude: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'd actually get behind something like that. I've got skills. Accounting, Excel, business sense. But I've been out of permanent work going on 5 years now. (Everyone tells me I've got a great resume, but what it comes down to is that I'm too old, too fat, and in many cases too white to compete is a field that is increasingly more about packaging than content.) We're comfortable: the wife's disability, the continuing UI, the CalFresh, the forthcoming Section 8 housing (approved; 1 bdr, nice area, great complex, for $188/month; thanks mr. taxpayer), all means that we are now/will be actually living better than many people who are working. paying taxes, and supporting us.

But I really would like to work. Why the hell, instead of giving billions to Fat Cat mega-corporations that are "too big to fail" (which is bullshiat of the highest magnitude) can't the Obama Administration start a new WPA for the (still) millions of unemployed people in this country?

repply your skills elsewhere and get off my tit already. shiat, shelve things at a thrift store for a year. i did. it demonstrates a work ethic.


Oh, BTW, I've demonstrated work ethic for 40+ years. Apparently doesn't count for shiat today.
 
2013-01-12 08:31:02 PM

qorkfiend: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Why the hell, instead of giving billions to Fat Cat mega-corporations that are "too big to fail" (which is bullshiat of the highest magnitude) can't the Obama Administration start a new WPA for the (still) millions of unemployed people in this country?

I'm sure you're aware that a) TARP was initiated under the Bush Administration and b) Obama by himself cannot do such a thing.


Of course I know that. George Bush is an asshole as well. No, Obama by himself can't do such a thing, but a) it also happened on his watch, so the buck stops with him; b) he had a Democrap-controlled legislature in both houses for two years -AND the veto power, and they passed the exact same kind of bullshiat as the Republicans. BOTH parties are bought and sold.

So vote for neither.
 
2013-01-12 08:56:48 PM
That official Gov't reply is just toooo coool!

This has to be the most in-touch administration ever.
And a sense of humor is the best indicator of intelligence.

...man, I'm still geekin' out about it.
This one's a keeper, for the trophy case.

/derpers gonna derp no matter what.
//but really, who cares!
///this is just sooo cool!
 
2013-01-12 09:01:47 PM

pedrop357: Where was this Obama last term to push closing Guantanamo,


Well, he keeps trying - even to the point of acquiring a prison within the US - but congress keeps inserting legislation into all sorts of unrelated bills that prevent him from spending any money to do it. I suppose he could fund transporter research and then 'test' it on Gitmo prisoners. The guy has made mistakes sure, but he is not omnipotent, and congress has pretty much gummed up the works on Gitmo.
 
2013-01-12 09:09:57 PM

shotglasss: Shadowtag: I've been arguing about this all night with people who lament that taxpayer dollars pay the salary of the guy who wrote it. Seriously, their blind hatred of the administration is that severe.

Were you paying attention from 2001 to 2009? Talk about blind hatred of an administration...


To be fair, the whole world hated the 2001-2009 administration: it's not blind hatred when a couple of billion people agree with you (I excluded people who probably had no idea who Bush was, they were too busy trying to survive).
 
2013-01-12 09:17:47 PM

Gaseous Anomaly: As a programmer, I keep up on this, and it seems that the flow of programming jobs to India has slowed to a trickle. My perspective may be flawed, but it no longer feels like the writing's on the wall.


The flow is now into the US, but unfortunately for a lot of Americans, those jobs are going to Canadians, like me. Almost a 1/3 of my graduating CS class left to take a job in San Francisco, Redmond, or New York. That's not even counting those of us with Math degrees who joined them.
 
2013-01-12 09:42:00 PM

pedrop357: Just once I'd like to see the recently charged up Obama go after repealing something or rolling back something rather than only using that 'power' for pushing new things on all of us.

Take the Obama who was a cheerleader for the health care act, and is demanding immediate action for gun control, and try to find that Obama spearheading efforts to implement any of the civil liberties or transparency stuff he promised.


You mean like, I dunno, repealing Don't Ask, Don't Tell?

One of the coolest things I've read in a while was an article on the Marines taking the lead on equal treatment for same sex spouses with respect to how they are treated by entities that use base facilities or receive base funding. That doesn't happen without Don't Ask, Don't Tell, not only being repealed, but by being strongly supported as the new 'law of the land'.
 
2013-01-12 09:54:57 PM

utah dude: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'd actually get behind something like that. I've got skills. Accounting, Excel, business sense. But I've been out of permanent work going on 5 years now. (Everyone tells me I've got a great resume, but what it comes down to is that I'm too old, too fat, and in many cases too white to compete is a field that is increasingly more about packaging than content.) We're comfortable: the wife's disability, the continuing UI, the CalFresh, the forthcoming Section 8 housing (approved; 1 bdr, nice area, great complex, for $188/month; thanks mr. taxpayer), all means that we are now/will be actually living better than many people who are working. paying taxes, and supporting us.

But I really would like to work. Why the hell, instead of giving billions to Fat Cat mega-corporations that are "too big to fail" (which is bullshiat of the highest magnitude) can't the Obama Administration start a new WPA for the (still) millions of unemployed people in this country?

repply your skills elsewhere and get off my tit already. shiat, shelve things at a thrift store for a year. i did. it demonstrates a work ethic.


This. I'm in my mid 40s, Canadian, more than a little rotund, pretty much totally gray, and female. I didn't even graduate from University until two years ago, but my Math/Comp Sci degree and I are happily ensconced in the tech industry, in the US making video games. At the end of the day, it's not the resume, it's the fit. I have no trouble with providing social services and providing more than survival support - it is cheaper in the long run than treating the effects of poverty, but I have zero patience with those who say they would like to work, who have marketable skills from a free lance POV, who are whining about the hand that feeds them. Grow a pair, take some free courses from Coursera, make your skills more relevant, but stop moaning.
 
2013-01-12 09:56:34 PM
Meh, what else you gonna do when you don't know how to govern?
 
2013-01-12 10:01:44 PM

Sum Dum Gai: Gaseous Anomaly: As a guess, are your offering wages "competitive" or whatever the usual BS term is these days, instead of, you know, actually good?

I can't speak to anyone else's wages (pay is confidential and merit-based), but I earned $70k fresh out of college and hit six figures by year three. I've never been disappointed by the pay, especially with a low cost-of-living in the area.


I got 105K right out of school (twice the offer for a similar job here in Vancouver), all my moving expenses and some stock. Your taxes are laughably low, even in California, and the only thing on my paycheque that changed this year was an increase in the amount that goes to SS - which even though, as a Canadian, I'll never collect, I'm okay with. People on SS should not be living in poverty or worried about food and medical care. In the long run, it is cheaper to provide adequately for them, than it is to pay the costs associated with delays in treatment, bad diets and substandard housing.
 
2013-01-12 10:19:17 PM

WayToBlue: Harry_Seldon

Dimensio: Once again, President Obama proves himself to be inexcusably weak on intergalactic defense.

The Death Star is not a defensive weapon.

The best defense is a good offense.


You know who said that? Mel, the cook from "Alice".
 
2013-01-12 10:34:37 PM
simply awesome
 
2013-01-12 10:45:39 PM

llachlan: You mean like, I dunno, repealing Don't Ask, Don't Tell?

One of the coolest things I've read in a while was an article on the Marines taking the lead on equal treatment for same sex spouses with respect to how they are treated by entities that use base facilities or receive base funding. That doesn't happen without Don't Ask, Don't Tell, not only being repealed, but by being strongly supported as the new 'law of the land'.


That's a good example and I'll openly acknowledge that I didn't think of that.
 
2013-01-12 10:59:01 PM

llachlan: utah dude: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'd actually get behind something like that. I've got skills. Accounting, Excel, business sense. But I've been out of permanent work going on 5 years now. (Everyone tells me I've got a great resume, but what it comes down to is that I'm too old, too fat, and in many cases too white to compete is a field that is increasingly more about packaging than content.) We're comfortable: the wife's disability, the continuing UI, the CalFresh, the forthcoming Section 8 housing (approved; 1 bdr, nice area, great complex, for $188/month; thanks mr. taxpayer), all means that we are now/will be actually living better than many people who are working. paying taxes, and supporting us.

But I really would like to work. Why the hell, instead of giving billions to Fat Cat mega-corporations that are "too big to fail" (which is bullshiat of the highest magnitude) can't the Obama Administration start a new WPA for the (still) millions of unemployed people in this country?

repply your skills elsewhere and get off my tit already. shiat, shelve things at a thrift store for a year. i did. it demonstrates a work ethic.

This. I'm in my mid 40s, Canadian, more than a little rotund, pretty much totally gray, and female. I didn't even graduate from University until two years ago, but my Math/Comp Sci degree and I are happily ensconced in the tech industry, in the US making video games. At the end of the day, it's not the resume, it's the fit. I have no trouble with providing social services and providing more than survival support - it is cheaper in the long run than treating the effects of poverty, but I have zero patience with those who say they would like to work, who have marketable skills from a free lance POV, who are whining about the hand that feeds them. Grow a pair, take some free courses from Coursera, make your skills more relevant, but stop moaning.


Reading comprehension fail.
 
2013-01-12 11:31:41 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Reading comprehension fail.


How so? You cited being old, fat and white. I cited being old, fat, at least looking white, added being female, and then raised you by being a new grad in a field (software engineering in gaming) dominated by young males - trust me, I've heard the comments that boiled down to 'nobody wants to work with their mother', and the ones that look at over 20 years of management and military experience and wonder why I wanted to change fields or take a junior position.

It's not your resume. It's you. Man up, grow your skills, learn to point out why your age and experience make you a good fit for whatever you are applying for, but don't sit back and whine about it.
 
2013-01-12 11:34:28 PM

pedrop357: llachlan: You mean like, I dunno, repealing Don't Ask, Don't Tell?

One of the coolest things I've read in a while was an article on the Marines taking the lead on equal treatment for same sex spouses with respect to how they are treated by entities that use base facilities or receive base funding. That doesn't happen without Don't Ask, Don't Tell, not only being repealed, but by being strongly supported as the new 'law of the land'.

That's a good example and I'll openly acknowledge that I didn't think of that.


It might not count for much, but you are now farkied as 'reasonable person to have a discussion with'.
 
2013-01-13 12:33:12 AM

Lonestar: I wish they would start thinking about real goals, like space elevators. That way we can start building the Entreprise before the transporters are ready.

I know they are starting to think about space mining.


Would Sri Lanka cooperate?
 
2013-01-13 01:49:46 AM
i14.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-13 02:24:10 AM
fark the death star, I want one of these.
Any schlockers on here?
 
2013-01-13 03:02:00 AM

Gulper Eel: Serious Black: Dude, you need to get laid.

And yet here we both are on Fark, where the pot says "how YOU doin'?" to the kettle.


I'm legally prohibited from getting laid for the time being and would likely lose my job if I did. I'm not cool like General Petraeus.
 
2013-01-13 03:58:09 AM

fmk040: fark the death star, I want one of these.
Any schlockers on here?


Don't forget the illudium Q-36 explosive space modulator.
 
2013-01-13 05:15:44 AM
You know, watching Star Wars on VHS and eating chips is a much better use of time than arguing politics on the internet.
 
2013-01-13 05:52:13 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Accounting, Excel, business sense


If those are the highlights on your resume, I can take a guess at the problem.
 
2013-01-13 08:22:38 AM

llachlan: This. I'm in my mid 40s, Canadian, more than a little rotund, pretty much totally gray, and female. I didn't even graduate from University until two years ago, but my Math/Comp Sci degree and I are happily ensconced in the tech industry, in the US making video games. At the end of the day, it's not the resume, it's the fit. I have no trouble with providing social services and providing more than survival support - it is cheaper in the long run than treating the effects of poverty, but I have zero patience with those who say they would like to work, who have marketable skills from a free lance POV, who are whining about the hand that feeds them. Grow a pair, take some free courses from Coursera, make your skills more relevant, but stop moaning.


you can still moan, as long as you work your butt off, somewhere, doing something ... chris rock: "put the dick down, get a job. get a job holding dicks, i don't care, as long as you wooorrrkkk."
 
2013-01-13 08:24:10 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: repply your skills elsewhere and get off my tit already. shiat, shelve things at a thrift store for a year. i did. it demonstrates a work ethic.

Oh, BTW, I've demonstrated work ethic for 40+ years. Apparently doesn't count for shiat today.


no,history doesn't mater, just work in the present.. hence, the thrift store job.
 
2013-01-13 08:24:49 AM

italie: If those are the highlights on your resume, I can take a guess at the problem.


smart.
 
2013-01-13 08:26:23 AM

llachlan: you are applying for, but don't sit back and whine about it.


well, you can whine,but you also gotta do the man up part.

actually, venting is healthy, hence, FARK.
 
2013-01-13 09:07:42 AM

Mart Laar's beard shaver: The Obama jizz patrol is strong in this thread.

When you get your paycheck, so happy you will be you will not. Reality will not be your friend.


Oh,goodie.

Another retard who thinks the president sets tax rates.
 
2013-01-13 10:18:03 AM

utah dude: Mentalpatient87: Couldn't be that you're a hate-filled prick who writes at a 3rd grade level. Nooo...

this assumption really describes the current liberal hip-hop perspective, tho' - - that is if you're a white male you're automatically rich and successful and racist. trust i'd love to be those things, but i ain't.


You just blamed minorities for taking your job..
 
2013-01-13 10:20:11 AM

fusillade762: dethmagnetic: I love that we live in a world where not only does the office of the most powerful man on earth issue a formal response to a request to build an orbital death station, but actually manages to be cool about it.

I like Obama plenty, but he didn't write that.

By Paul Shawcross

Paul Shawcross is Chief of the Science and Space Branch at the White House Office of Management and Budget


lightenupfrancis.jpg
 
2013-01-13 10:43:30 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: utah dude: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'd actually get behind something like that. I've got skills. Accounting, Excel, business sense. But I've been out of permanent work going on 5 years now. (Everyone tells me I've got a great resume, but what it comes down to is that I'm too old, too fat, and in many cases too white to compete is a field that is increasingly more about packaging than content.) We're comfortable: the wife's disability, the continuing UI, the CalFresh, the forthcoming Section 8 housing (approved; 1 bdr, nice area, great complex, for $188/month; thanks mr. taxpayer), all means that we are now/will be actually living better than many people who are working. paying taxes, and supporting us.

But I really would like to work. Why the hell, instead of giving billions to Fat Cat mega-corporations that are "too big to fail" (which is bullshiat of the highest magnitude) can't the Obama Administration start a new WPA for the (still) millions of unemployed people in this country?

repply your skills elsewhere and get off my tit already. shiat, shelve things at a thrift store for a year. i did. it demonstrates a work ethic.

LOL! Tried that, and cashier at a Jack in the Box, sales guy at Big 5 - more than I can recall - dozens. The dialog (when they even bother to call) goes something like this:

"Hi, JAOCHG, this is Kevin the manager at XYZ Flopdoodle. We've reviewed your resume and you certainly have impressive qualifications. But I just have one question: With your background and experience, WHY do you want to work for us?"

[Various responses, from "I really like your company and want to get in on the ground floor" to "I need a job"]

Uh, sorry, but with your over-qualifications, we can't take a chance that you won't bail on us as soon as the economy improves. BUT THANKS FOR APPLYING, AND GOOD LUCK!"

Or, in the case of Jack in the Box, since I didn't know Spanish, and the cashier has to supervise the other employees - 4 of which ONLY spoke Spanish! - I ...


Last I checked, Immigration takes anonymous tips.

Just saying.
 
2013-01-13 11:02:47 AM

italie: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Accounting, Excel, business sense

If those are the highlights on your resume, I can take a guess at the problem.


That is a nano-summary. The resume shows 40+ years progressively responsible management accounting positions, culminating in Corporate Controller / faux-CFO (company title inflation; slot was actually a Controller job) slots. Along the way I became pretty much an expert in Excel 2003/2007/2010 with VBA programming skills, and decent skills in the rest of the Microsoft Office suite (except Access, where I'm light, due to the emphasis on Excel). Accounting (BS) degree from Long Beach State, from the 70's when it meant something.

Every damned headhunter and sourcing agency person I talk to (including one guy I've known for 30 years and is a totally blunt straight shooter) says it's a great resume. The problems, they say, are that:

1) though a company may have several Staff or Senior people in accounting - there's only ONE Controller or Accounting Manager or Assistant Controller per company. And that there are now not enough companies and too many out of work Controllers and Accounting Managers.

2) I don't have a CPA - a mistake made 40 years ago when I opted for a career path starting with a dream entry level accounting job in a private company rather than an intern slot in a CPA firm. Too late to change that.

3) For the last 4 years, too much job hopping. These were all, of course, temp jobs through agencies, some lasting as long as 6 months, several with return engagements, most with glowing letters of recommendation from the clients. I'm working on this issue by re-doing the resume showing this period as ONE job with the agency that got me the most gigs.

So the competition for the few Controller level jobs is intense, and for several reasons (too old, too big, maybe sometimes too white) I don't make the cut. And I'm "overqualified" for anything less. Fake a resume showing less job experience? Hard to do these days with everybody in the world doing background investigations.

So I don't know, you tell me: what am I doing wrong?
 
2013-01-13 11:06:19 AM

utah dude: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: repply your skills elsewhere and get off my tit already. shiat, shelve things at a thrift store for a year. i did. it demonstrates a work ethic.

Oh, BTW, I've demonstrated work ethic for 40+ years. Apparently doesn't count for shiat today.

no,history doesn't mater, just work in the present.. hence, the thrift store job.


Tried that. Since I'm not an ex-felon or in drug rehab, the local evangelical-owned store doesn't have any slots. Tried at Goodwill and never heard back. Tried at dozens of retail and get: "Wow, why would you work here? Sorry, can't take a chance you will leave when things improve."

Next idea?
 
2013-01-13 11:22:50 AM

PunGent: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: utah dude: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'd actually get behind something like that. I've got skills. Accounting, Excel, business sense. But I've been out of permanent work going on 5 years now. (Everyone tells me I've got a great resume, but what it comes down to is that I'm too old, too fat, and in many cases too white to compete is a field that is increasingly more about packaging than content.) We're comfortable: the wife's disability, the continuing UI, the CalFresh, the forthcoming Section 8 housing (approved; 1 bdr, nice area, great complex, for $188/month; thanks mr. taxpayer), all means that we are now/will be actually living better than many people who are working. paying taxes, and supporting us.

But I really would like to work. Why the hell, instead of giving billions to Fat Cat mega-corporations that are "too big to fail" (which is bullshiat of the highest magnitude) can't the Obama Administration start a new WPA for the (still) millions of unemployed people in this country?

repply your skills elsewhere and get off my tit already. shiat, shelve things at a thrift store for a year. i did. it demonstrates a work ethic.

LOL! Tried that, and cashier at a Jack in the Box, sales guy at Big 5 - more than I can recall - dozens. The dialog (when they even bother to call) goes something like this:

"Hi, JAOCHG, this is Kevin the manager at XYZ Flopdoodle. We've reviewed your resume and you certainly have impressive qualifications. But I just have one question: With your background and experience, WHY do you want to work for us?"

[Various responses, from "I really like your company and want to get in on the ground floor" to "I need a job"]

Uh, sorry, but with your over-qualifications, we can't take a chance that you won't bail on us as soon as the economy improves. BUT THANKS FOR APPLYING, AND GOOD LUCK!"

Or, in the case of Jack in the Box, since I didn't know Spanish, and the cashier has to supervise the other employees - 4 of which ONLY spoke Spanish! - I ...

Last I checked, Immigration takes anonymous tips.

Just saying.


Sigh. Yeah, I know. Here's the thing, though. We eat there a LOT since they have killer coupons (survival tip #5: large apartment complexes have mail areas with their own trash bins for all the junk mail; 95% of tenants throw out all the coupons; 10 minutes work can get you $600 worth of 2 for 1 or $1 off coupons). We know those employees, and they're nice people.

Illegals? Probably, even though JITB says they use e-verify.

Criminals? Yeah, technically. I guess so am I, technically. Theft of city electricity; unauthorized use of city computers and Internet connections; illegally going through city dumpsters (the local cops of several cities have to hold items confiscated during arrests for 90 days. After that, they toss them. Fortunately, the dumpster locks are not that good, and I know a guy that knows how to open them. So my wife, for example, has a VERY nice Dell laptop, a little old, but free.

But back to the JITB employees. Hey, they are people too, they need work, they work their butts off, and narcing them out would be exactly like using a thimble to bail out a sea of water.
 
2013-01-13 12:22:04 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: italie: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Accounting, Excel, business sense

If those are the highlights on your resume, I can take a guess at the problem.

That is a nano-summary. The resume shows 40+ years progressively responsible management accounting positions, culminating in Corporate Controller / faux-CFO (company title inflation; slot was actually a Controller job) slots. Along the way I became pretty much an expert in Excel 2003/2007/2010 with VBA programming skills, and decent skills in the rest of the Microsoft Office suite (except Access, where I'm light, due to the emphasis on Excel). Accounting (BS) degree from Long Beach State, from the 70's when it meant something.

Every damned headhunter and sourcing agency person I talk to (including one guy I've known for 30 years and is a totally blunt straight shooter) says it's a great resume. The problems, they say, are that:

1) though a company may have several Staff or Senior people in accounting - there's only ONE Controller or Accounting Manager or Assistant Controller per company. And that there are now not enough companies and too many out of work Controllers and Accounting Managers.

2) I don't have a CPA - a mistake made 40 years ago when I opted for a career path starting with a dream entry level accounting job in a private company rather than an intern slot in a CPA firm. Too late to change that.

3) For the last 4 years, too much job hopping. These were all, of course, temp jobs through agencies, some lasting as long as 6 months, several with return engagements, most with glowing letters of recommendation from the clients. I'm working on this issue by re-doing the resume showing this period as ONE job with the agency that got me the most gigs.

So the competition for the few Controller level jobs is intense, and for several reasons (too old, too big, maybe sometimes too white) I don't make the cut. And I'm "overqualified" for anything less. Fake a resume showing less job experience? Hard to do these ...


I can't tell you what you are doing wrong short of what you've posted here. I don't know you, your location, haven't seen your resume, etc.

All I do know is that if you sell yourself in interviews/on paper like you do here, I wouldn't be hiring you either. Maybe you do have a solid resume, maybe it is just a matter of too many cooks and only one kitchen. That isn't an excuse though.

Tailor your resume to each place you send out. Don't lie, but word in a manner that suits the job you are applying for. Experiment with different formats / cover letters / thank you techniques. It's about leaving a good impression as much as it is about your skill set/qualifications. You are making a good move by combining the jobs by agency. No decent employer should frown on job-hopping as long as it was a justifiable thing (temp/term work).

Expand your search to include other options like contract work, different regions, etc.

You are unemployed, so make use of the time. Borrow some books on other programming languages. VBA is nice, but a little more variety in your abilities might get you noticed. C/Java/VB wouldn't be that far of a stretch to learn. Write a few programs/apps to include in your portfolio that show your ability in the new languages. Write an accounting app and sell it.

If your weight is an issue, work on loosing some. You have time right?

The CPA is a hindrance, but it's never too late to fix that. I'm assuming money is the issue at the moment. Student Loans?

It's tax season, anything temp you can get your hands into?

I'm not trying to judge. I'm not trying to belittle. I am trying to say there are options. You just have to find them. Use your time on the governments dime wisely.

//I've been there, I've overcome that. Got the T-shirt.
 
2013-01-13 03:12:25 PM

PunGent: Oh,goodie.

Another retard who thinks the president sets tax rates.


Why not? The last president apparently set gas prices by himself.
 
2013-01-13 03:13:13 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Tried that. Since I'm not an ex-felon or in drug rehab, the local evangelical-owned store doesn't have any slots. Tried at Goodwill and never heard back. Tried at dozens of retail and get: "Wow, why would you work here? Sorry, can't take a chance you will leave when things improve."

Next idea?



Time to start hiding some experience on your resume.
 
2013-01-13 08:00:54 PM

KawaiiNot: Well these guys are bummed.

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Hmm, where can I find that?
 
2013-01-13 08:08:22 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: FirstNationalBastard: Mid_mo_mad_man: The problem with a Deathstar is the lack of support ships. The armaments include one laser and assorted fighters. If you occupy the fighters and dodge the laser it's a easy victor. You would need a fleet of support ships to help defend it. It would be more cost effective to build a fleet of constellation class starships.

Ooh...

Constellation class ships?

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I've always liked the look of those.

Sigh. Amateurs.

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Stargate? Out of the four "star" franchises, this one's my fourth favorite after Trek, Wars and Search.
 
2013-01-13 11:04:11 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Tried that. Since I'm not an ex-felon or in drug rehab, the local evangelical-owned store doesn't have any slots. Tried at Goodwill and


start drugs so that you can do rehab and qualify. you know you want to.
 
2013-01-13 11:04:46 PM

pedrop357: Time to start hiding some experience on your resume.


yes, please tell me you did.
 
2013-01-13 11:12:18 PM

utah dude: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Tried that. Since I'm not an ex-felon or in drug rehab, the local evangelical-owned store doesn't have any slots. Tried at Goodwill and

start drugs so that you can do rehab and qualify. you know you want to.


Wasn't that the plot of an "Its Always Sunny" episode?
 
2013-01-14 12:14:50 AM

italie: utah dude: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Tried that. Since I'm not an ex-felon or in drug rehab, the local evangelical-owned store doesn't have any slots. Tried at Goodwill and

start drugs so that you can do rehab and qualify. you know you want to.

Wasn't that the plot of an "Its Always Sunny" episode?


?dunno? i was gunna say, the work-history of many a pastor/priest/minister... if you sin then repent you get super congregational powers. people believe your story more... etc.
 
2013-01-14 09:45:04 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: PunGent: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: utah dude: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'd actually get behind something like that. I've got skills. Accounting, Excel, business sense. But I've been out of permanent work going on 5 years now. (Everyone tells me I've got a great resume, but what it comes down to is that I'm too old, too fat, and in many cases too white to compete is a field that is increasingly more about packaging than content.) We're comfortable: the wife's disability, the continuing UI, the CalFresh, the forthcoming Section 8 housing (approved; 1 bdr, nice area, great complex, for $188/month; thanks mr. taxpayer), all means that we are now/will be actually living better than many people who are working. paying taxes, and supporting us.

But I really would like to work. Why the hell, instead of giving billions to Fat Cat mega-corporations that are "too big to fail" (which is bullshiat of the highest magnitude) can't the Obama Administration start a new WPA for the (still) millions of unemployed people in this country?

repply your skills elsewhere and get off my tit already. shiat, shelve things at a thrift store for a year. i did. it demonstrates a work ethic.

LOL! Tried that, and cashier at a Jack in the Box, sales guy at Big 5 - more than I can recall - dozens. The dialog (when they even bother to call) goes something like this:

"Hi, JAOCHG, this is Kevin the manager at XYZ Flopdoodle. We've reviewed your resume and you certainly have impressive qualifications. But I just have one question: With your background and experience, WHY do you want to work for us?"

[Various responses, from "I really like your company and want to get in on the ground floor" to "I need a job"]

Uh, sorry, but with your over-qualifications, we can't take a chance that you won't bail on us as soon as the economy improves. BUT THANKS FOR APPLYING, AND GOOD LUCK!"

Or, in the case of Jack in the Box, since I didn't know Spanish, and the cashier has to supervise the other employe ...


Interesting. I'd be cautious about using computers found in police trash, and I say that as a bit of a scavenger myself.

At the least, I'd wipe the drives VERY thoroughly...could be kiddie porn in there, old emails from drug traffickers, etc.
 
2013-01-14 09:46:07 AM

pedrop357: PunGent: Oh,goodie.

Another retard who thinks the president sets tax rates.

Why not? The last president apparently set gas prices by himself.


Yeah...plenty of retards on both sides of the aisle.
 
2013-01-14 12:33:26 PM

PunGent: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: PunGent: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: utah dude: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: ..............

Interesting. I'd be cautious about using computers found in police trash, and I say that as a bit of a scavenger myself.

Definitely. In fact, we took out that hard drive and installed one from an old laptop with a bad screen I had, just to be safe.
 
2013-01-14 01:37:31 PM
Could we maybe calm down about politics and discuss the coolness of 'Star Wars' for a little bit? I mean, politics threads we have every day, but 'Star Wars' threads...

Oh, wait. This is the Internet.

Carry on.
 
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