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(The Raw Story)   The United States is in the middle of three epidemics right now - flu, whooping cough and 'winter vomiting disease'   (rawstory.com) divider line 43
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2013-01-12 02:27:47 AM  
6 votes:
Let's give the Anti-Vaxxers a hand. Without their efforts, none of this would be possible!

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/Fun Fact: Summer's right around the corner, and as is tradition, Polio now has a strong foothold in Africa and the East again thanks to the efforts of Anti-vaxxers.
//Herd Immunity is a real important thing, people.
2013-01-12 03:09:22 AM  
4 votes:

Fluorescent Testicle: No, wait, not a Nobel Prize, what's that other one..


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Jenny McCarthy won it in 2008 for being a crank.
2013-01-12 11:56:12 AM  
3 votes:

Carth: I'm kind of hoping for a major epidemic to force the discussion of paid sick leave in America. Too many places either don't offer enough sick leave or lump vacation/sick time together so people go to work sick and infect everyone else. maybe if enough sick people start scheduling meetings with HR everytime they are ill companies will get the message.


You may get your wish this year with the new norovirus and influenza H3N2 both spreading. I realize most folks think we live in Libtard pergatory, but here is the San Francisco Paid Sick Leave Ordinance. Link Cut and paste freely and request your city to implement a similar ordinance. Threaten that you and a sick friend will attend every board of supervisors meeting until implemented. HR is not going to do it.
2013-01-12 04:42:13 AM  
3 votes:

ChewbaccaJones: Crazy bug: it hits within a couple of hours; makes it so you can't stand or even sit up without using all your energy; fever, spewing out of every orifice...seriously: the shiattiest I remember feeling in the past few years.


I'll just repeat my post from the last flu thread about Norovirus:

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I got Norovirus two years ago when it was going around Northern Virginia.  It's an illness so insidious I simultaneously threw up and shiat my pants in a Metro station and I had to be carried out on a gurney.

It is terrifying to be so sick you can't prevent yourself from shiatting your pants.  I prided myself up until that point that in my entire adult life, I had never vomited where I didn't want to, and I had never shiat my pants.  Then in one terrifying day, both records were shattered.  I felt fine in the morning and I was in the hospital that night.

I'd also like to eternally thank the group of teenagers who took pictures of me collapsed on the floor of the metro station, covered in puke, while helpfully pointing out "Dawg shiat himself!  Got shiat all over!"  That was helpful.  I really appreciate it.
2013-01-12 03:55:29 AM  
3 votes:

incrdbil: robohobo: Wife's a doctor, and her hospitals have been full of flu people. She's required to get a flu shot, but I've never had one in my life. Rather just be sick for a few days every few years.

Flu shots take a very short amount of time, are cheap if not free, and relatively painless. If you ever have real flu (many people confuse a normal cold or stomach trouble for flu), I bet you'll not hesitate in the future.


I'm required to get a flu shot, but I can't because of a severe allergy to eggs (that's what they incubate the viruses in). I've had the real flu, and it sucks, but trust me when I say that it doesn't suck nearly as much as anaphylaxis brought on from injecting an allergen directly into my bloodstream.
2013-01-12 03:20:44 AM  
3 votes:
Attention Anti-Vaxxers:

Die in a farking fire.

Thank you. That is all.
2013-01-12 01:15:45 PM  
2 votes:

Anoria: Flu is bad - lots of people I know who say they never get sick are getting it, and those who do are getting it more severely than usual and with more complications. Still would rather get the flu every month than norovirus once.


The bad aspect about severe influenza is your lungs don't work any more. Yes, vomiting is bad, but mostly you survive it. Influenza kills.

Anyway, bear with me as I go off topic a bit. I'm a scientist and I believe we have a serious problem in our approach to infectious disease. We have spent billions on end stage disease such as cancer, with not much to show for it. So says James Watson too. Link

There is only one class of drugs to stop influenza (neuraminadase inhibitors) and resistance is a huge problem. There is nothing for norovirus and the effective antibacterials are down to one drug. We have worse hepatitis outbreaks and chikungunyavirus to look forward to.

The NIH priorities makes no sense to me.
2013-01-12 10:15:17 AM  
2 votes:
I'm kind of hoping for a major epidemic to force the discussion of paid sick leave in America. Too many places either don't offer enough sick leave or lump vacation/sick time together so people go to work sick and infect everyone else. maybe if enough sick people start scheduling meetings with HR everytime they are ill companies will get the message.
2013-01-12 07:51:24 AM  
2 votes:
Listen my children to my tale of something called...Pertussis. AKA whooping cough. If you've never had it you are one lucky motherfarker. Not only do you cough to the point where your spinal vertebrate begin separating, you also pass out randomly. As in one minute you're staring at your kitchen sink the next moment you're doing the horizontal jig ion the floor. In that graying out period you spit, droll and shake and have vivid momentary dreams. Also there's a strange whining sensation in your head and a taste in your mouth like it's full of 9-volt batteries. Oh, and you vomit. A lot. Uncontrollably. Almost choked to death twice and since my husband left me two years ago I have nothing but the grace of Lord Vishnu to see me through.

Oh, and there is no treatment...as in NONE. Anti-tussives have no effect. Codeine has no effect. It lasts for over three moths.

In that time I've fallen dozens of times. Results: a broken ring finger, sprained ankle, sprained wrist, broken toe countless bruises and a serious cut on my chin that required sutures and crashed my Tahoe into a ravine which totaled it.

Thanks, whooping cough!
2013-01-12 06:36:01 AM  
2 votes:

cherryl taggart: Will any of these epidemics take people out of the work force? I need a job, like yesterday.


I suppose the ones who die may leave a job opening. The rest of us can't even get time off.
2013-01-12 03:58:44 AM  
2 votes:

neongoats: I've been a bit stuffy, and have had a stuff neck, which happens to me when I'm getting sick. But I just consider that par for winter, really.

I don't want that vomiting shiat, flu is doable.

/you too have awoken at least once with your head stuck in the taco eating position.


Flu is not 'doable'. You have to stay home, and rest. Sniffles, sneezing and a fever is not 'the flu'. If you do have the flu and 'tough it out' and go to school or work, you are being selfish for infecting other people, delaying your recovery for not resting..and the work you do sucks, because you simply can't work as well if you are sick
2013-01-12 03:27:11 AM  
2 votes:
I've been a bit stuffy, and have had a stuff neck, which happens to me when I'm getting sick. But I just consider that par for winter, really.

I don't want that vomiting shiat, flu is doable.

/you too have awoken at least once with your head stuck in the taco eating position.
2013-01-12 03:07:39 AM  
2 votes:
Jenny McCarthy deserves a Nobel Prize for this.

No, wait, not a Nobel Prize, what's that other one... Oh yeah, a punch to the face.
2013-01-12 12:00:17 AM  
2 votes:
, influenza, whooping cough and norovirus

I've had the flu and Norovirus.  I'll take the flu every time.
2013-01-12 07:30:53 PM  
1 votes:
Is this why I'm not getting odd looks for buying a lot of dextromethorphan containing products right now?
2013-01-12 03:17:25 PM  
1 votes:
Oh, and for most of the contagious period of whooping cough, you don't have the characteristic cough symptom. It just acts like a regular cold for the first few weeks. So you can't avoid catching it just by avoiding obviously sick people, because half the population walks around with cold symptoms in the winter.
2013-01-12 01:51:56 PM  
1 votes:

thisone: Dadoody: Haven't caught flu or whooping cough yet.

I did catch the vomiting disease (norovirus). Horrible 24 hours.

you should be vaccinated for whooping cough? (depending on your country of origin of course)


Adults should get a booster. Apparently immunity from the childhood round wears off eventually.
2013-01-12 01:49:43 PM  
1 votes:

Nullav: neongoats: incrdbil: neongoats: I've been a bit stuffy, and have had a stuff neck, which happens to me when I'm getting sick. But I just consider that par for winter, really.

I don't want that vomiting shiat, flu is doable.

/you too have awoken at least once with your head stuck in the taco eating position.

Flu is not 'doable'. You have to stay home, and rest. Sniffles, sneezing and a fever is not 'the flu'. If you do have the flu and 'tough it out' and go to school or work, you are being selfish for infecting other people, delaying your recovery for not resting..and the work you do sucks, because you simply can't work as well if you are sick

Relax charmschool, take a deep breath and put down the purelle. Hint: most people don't have the luxury to take half a dozen days off any time they get some minor flu like symptoms.

This. If I get sick when my vacation time rolls in, I'm golden. Otherwise, I'll be kissing Saint Pepto for a couple weeks. Sadly, or perhaps thankfully, the former never happens, because that's in August.


Thanks for making all the rest of us sick.

If you have a fever, stay the fark home.
2013-01-12 01:48:30 PM  
1 votes:
Those saying that "I can handle some upper respiratory sniffles" haven't had THE flu. You've only had A flu. There is no "the" flu. The constantly evolving influenza virus comes in a wide variety of exciting flavors and colors. Don't think that because the one you had last was a cake walk, the next one is going to be an easy go. No only does the virus change, but so does your immune system, and not necessarily in an advantageous way (a "strong" immune system can unleash a deadly cytokine storm, which was one way to go during the Spanish Flu epidemic. Another option was "bleeding to death" because that's what that particular variety did). I've been getting the jab ever since my last "please, sweet Death, release me" go-round with a flu over a decade ago. I know I can't handle hallucinations and perfect mucus casts of the tubes in my lungs getting lodged in my tonsils and making me vomit over an already sore throat while every muscle in my body, including my eyeballs, felt like someone was punching it relentlessly. For two weeks. I counted myself lucky that I didn't get a secondary bacterial infection.

I've had Norovirus too and while squirting out both ends for two days was definitely unpleasant, at least I knew it was only going to be two days, and death wasn't likely, though it was looking attractive at some points.
2013-01-12 12:52:47 PM  
1 votes:
So, I don't worry about gun violence, or air travel, or gangs, or car accidents, or catching a cold or the flu (respiratory infections suck but they're easily dealt with), or sinister figures breaking into my house at night, or most things that people build up their irrational fears about. That said, norovirus is the one threat that will make me wash my hands 30 times a day and avoid large population densities whenever possible and actually keep me from doing things I want/need to do, just because I'm afraid of catching it. If modern medicine could come up with a vaccine against that, I think a Nobel prize would be in order and I'd be first in line for the shot.

/caught 2 stomach bugs in 4 months in high school. Would give a lot to never go through that again.

Flu is bad - lots of people I know who say they never get sick are getting it, and those who do are getting it more severely than usual and with more complications. Still would rather get the flu every month than norovirus once.
2013-01-12 12:42:35 PM  
1 votes:

yourmomlovestetris: incrdbil: Call me grouchy. Too many people in my old office wanted to prove they are 'essential' by always coming in, no matter how damn sick they were, then shared their illness with everyone.

THIS. I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE people who don't stay the eff home when they're sick. They'll bawl and whine, "But I really need the money!" Well that's too bad! If you ever get yourself in a position where missing three days of work will send your finances into a death spiral, then you have bigger problems than just an illness. You should do something about your situation so you don't have to face an awful choice like this in the future.

And the rest of us need the money too! Why should WE have to suffer just to make life more convenient for YOU? Stop thinking only of yourself and STAY HOME WHEN YOU'RE SICK!!!!!


Newsflash, 80% of america is in that situation. It is frowned apon to miss work for anything, and if you miss it for sickness you are laid off pritty quick when the time comes.
2013-01-12 10:47:36 AM  
1 votes:

BronyMedic: Norovirus is a fecal-oral route bug. I'll leave how the Water tanks of cruise ships get contaminated with it up to your imagination.


In a confined space, that shiat is airborne when someone is releasing it at the rate that the poor guy who was being photographed was expelling the virus.
2013-01-12 08:50:59 AM  
1 votes:
I had this vomiting mess the Thursday before last - I think I was hallucinating at one point and barely knew where I was for about 12 straight hours. I was fine the night before and on the edge of death by noon. It was four days before I could keep anything down other than a few bites of crackers. It has been a long time since I have been that sick and I hope that I avoid it for a long time...
2013-01-12 08:15:41 AM  
1 votes:
Funnily, the two idiot girls in my office who call in sick 2-3 days a month for what we call 'Jager Flu' both got this potent flu as well, but were also *just* called on the carpet by the owners and warned NO MORE SICK DAYS FOR A FEW MONTHS, so they both had to come to work sick as hell or risk utter wrath.

While seeing justice done to the malingerers is amusing, the whole office is now a seething hotbed of germs and spores. I am positive these women would go out of their way to touch all available surfaces to ensure maximum transmission. The office VP doesn't come in till 9am, and I think I saw one of them stagger into her office yesterday - very likely with the intent to coat the VP's phone and keyboard with spores.

/already had the flu, so just observing things from my office
2013-01-12 07:05:36 AM  
1 votes:

Lsherm: , influenza, whooping cough and norovirus

I've had the flu and Norovirus.  I'll take the flu every time.


Same. I have an autoimmune disease and while the flu will lay me out for a solid month because my body can't heal itself like a healthy person, at least it doesn't send me to the ER. Norovirus is a nasty bugger.
2013-01-12 06:24:23 AM  
1 votes:

Revek: No captain tripps yet.  I just got over....something  What they call it doesn't matter  It was eight days of I don't like food and why does it sound like I'm peeing while I poop.  Hope this word picture takes you back to that toilet bowl nightmare you hoped to forget.


The Stand was the first thing I thought of too.

Who else feels a cold coming on everytime they read that book?

/read it at least six times in the past 12 yrs or so, happens EVERY damn time
2013-01-12 06:02:08 AM  
1 votes:

DON.MAC: On nice thought is that anyone likely to be close enough to take photos has a very high chance of catching the virus too.


Only if they were clinically obsessed coprophiliacs. Norovirus is a fecal-oral route bug. I'll leave how the Water tanks of cruise ships get contaminated with it up to your imagination.
2013-01-12 05:28:08 AM  
1 votes:
Been sick with something since 12/31 myself, but since I have contact with few people on the 3rd shift, I've kept working anyway. Not feeling too bad now, but other people wince when I cough, and either the sickness or the medicine seems to be making me more nearsighted. Not too bad, just hard to read anything over 12 feet away, but if I took my glasses off, it's down to about 6 inches. Just tired eyes or something.

My grandmothers got pneumonia, one of them is out of the hospital and visiting us, the other is nearly 95, fell last week, and hasn't eaten or drunk anything in a week. We're surprised she's still here, but expecting her to go any day now.
2013-01-12 04:46:02 AM  
1 votes:

DrPainMD: I haven't had a vaccination, or a major illness, in 30+ years. I eat well and exercise.


So basically you got lucky.
2013-01-12 04:41:52 AM  
1 votes:

Mock26: 4th Epidemic: Irrational fear of firearms.


Ah, I knew someone would be in to herp this derp.

dividebyxero: Attention Anti-Vaxxers:

Die in a farking fire.

Thank you. That is all.


And this can't be said enough.
2013-01-12 04:30:46 AM  
1 votes:

incrdbil: Call me grouchy. Too many people in my old office wanted to prove they are 'essential' by always coming in, no matter how damn sick they were, then shared their illness with everyone.


THIS. I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE people who don't stay the eff home when they're sick. They'll bawl and whine, "But I really need the money!" Well that's too bad! If you ever get yourself in a position where missing three days of work will send your finances into a death spiral, then you have bigger problems than just an illness. You should do something about your situation so you don't have to face an awful choice like this in the future.

And the rest of us need the money too! Why should WE have to suffer just to make life more convenient for YOU? Stop thinking only of yourself and STAY HOME WHEN YOU'RE SICK!!!!!
2013-01-12 03:51:09 AM  
1 votes:
Working in the ER right now is hell. We haven't had a quiet day in over a month. Usually it's only one or two really busy days a week, and the rest is fairly slow. Now, though, it's backed up every day. Doesn't help that the Primary Care doctors are all completely booked a week ahead right now and impatient people can't wait a few days for an appointment, because they need their antibiotics RIGHT NOW and then get pissy when we tell them that they don't do anything for viruses now would you please shut up so I can go help the guy who is having a heart attack down the hall.
2013-01-12 03:34:35 AM  
1 votes:
4th Epidemic: Irrational fear of firearms.
2013-01-12 03:28:33 AM  
1 votes:

robohobo: Wife's a doctor, and her hospitals have been full of flu people. She's required to get a flu shot, but I've never had one in my life. Rather just be sick for a few days every few years.


Flu shots take a very short amount of time, are cheap if not free, and relatively painless. If you ever have real flu (many people confuse a normal cold or stomach trouble for flu), I bet you'll not hesitate in the future.
2013-01-12 03:28:13 AM  
1 votes:

ThreeFootSmurf: The My Little Pony Killer: The last time I had the flu, it was nine hours of explosions followed by a day and a half of being sore and fatigued. Bring it.

sounds like food poisoning to me.


i shall stay in my cave of solitude safe from the nasty bugs, shop at night or early morning (w/medmask) and lurk fark comments. oh what a life we lead


It was like no case of food poisoning I'd ever had then. All flu symptoms, all the way.
2013-01-12 03:25:19 AM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: zombies man, it's the start of zombie apocalypse!


braaaaaaains

No seriously. I need brains. Ive had this ghastly flu for over 2 weeks now and I desperately have to study but my head is full of goo.
2013-01-12 03:25:02 AM  
1 votes:
I tend to get over most ailments in record time. I spent three days not eating and barfing up the sugar water I forced down my throat. Average flu-related sick time at work is verging on 2 weeks, and the loss of enough weight that the girls I work with have become skeletal in appearance. It took out the assistant manager and her husband, and the other person in my department is out sick too.

/8 hours and no breaks today
//probably the same tomorrow
///least the Broncos are playing, so it should be relatively dead
2013-01-12 03:24:20 AM  
1 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: The last time I had the flu, it was nine hours of explosions followed by a day and a half of being sore and fatigued. Bring it.


sounds like food poisoning to me.


i shall stay in my cave of solitude safe from the nasty bugs, shop at night or early morning (w/medmask) and lurk fark comments. oh what a life we lead
2013-01-12 03:20:24 AM  
1 votes:
The "winter vomiting disease" recently hit my family. No es bueno. Sidelined me for the better part of a week.
2013-01-12 03:19:32 AM  
1 votes:

BronyMedic: The My Little Pony Killer: The last time I had the flu, it was nine hours of explosions followed by a day and a half of being sore and fatigued. Bring it.

Are you sure you're not mistaking playing Ace Combat 6?


Quite sure. And if I ever find the idiot who decided to cart around her sick infant (who I caught it from) I'm going to give her a good hard punch to the uterus.
2013-01-12 03:13:38 AM  
1 votes:
I've got an ear infection. Constantly bucking the trends, that's me.

/I had whooping cough before it was an epidemic.
//And some other stuff but you probably haven't heard of any of them.
2013-01-12 01:53:47 AM  
1 votes:
No captain tripps yet.  I just got over....something  What they call it doesn't matter  It was eight days of I don't like food and why does it sound like I'm peeing while I poop.  Hope this word picture takes you back to that toilet bowl nightmare you hoped to forget.
2013-01-12 01:13:47 AM  
1 votes:
I haven't had a jab in years, as long as Mom sends the cheese sandwiches downstairs on time, I'm immune.
 
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