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(My Fox 8 Greensboro)   A Case for the Ages: Brooke Greenberg may be a 20-year old, but she's also still a toddler due to a mystery medical condition. There are no other cases like Brooke's in the world   (myfox8.com) divider line 217
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2013-01-12 01:02:37 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: WHERE THE FARK do you get off making high-handed ethical decisions for 7 billion people?


Don't think he is saying immortality is immoral or unethical but creates a host of problems with the world population, availability of work, and the general scheme of how our world functions, as well as graver concern for death not cased by aging. Ability to extend your life for another hundred years, one hundred productive years, would itself be a shift in the life paradigm, but immortality... couldn't fathom all of the implications.

EngineerAU: Genevieve Marie: If you're talking about a cochlear implant- there are a lot of people in the deaf community that have mixed feelings about them, and several have chosen not to get them for various reasons, and it's not a crazy decision in the slightest.

Mom's reasons were strictly based on keeping her kid in the deaf community. It was a social decision made for the kid rather than a medical one. Hopefully it wasn't the type of treatment that could only be done in childhood so the kid would have the option choosing yes once they turned 18.


Heard of this before. The Deaf community has some... fundamentalists for a lack of a better word which says unless you were born with total hearing loss you are not Deaf, Deaf people should only be in schools which focus on signing and cultural assimilation, and similar isolation. This is an identity, and parents want to share an identity with their children. I do not agree with this, if someone offered me another sense such as echolocation I would likely leap at the opportunity because sensing heat and touch and taste and equilibrium are all quite awesome, but I do understand.

As for cochlear implants, as far as I know, the earlier you have them the greater success you will have. Listening, especially through cochlear implants, is a skill you work at. Further, there are all manner of language related issues with recognizing and prioritizing certain sounds and sound combinations while having the opportunity to experiment through babbling and motor skill development which make tremendous difference. But, those can generally be done any age.
 
2013-01-12 01:07:37 AM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: BronyMedic: Encyclopedia Dramatica has a far less tactful telling of the story. (NSFW)

WTF is that? i have never heard of this place. "Ashley suffers from at least 100 types of retarded" . ???


Best way to sum it up is a wiki for 4chan. You should probably turn away if that simple phrase was enough to get a reaction out of you.
 
2013-01-12 01:08:04 AM

Genevieve Marie: That Encyclopedia Dramatica one should offend anyone with a soul.


i found the real wiki and posted a youtube video, which is just commentary, upthread.

i had never heard of Encyclopedia Dramatica before. it's like ogrish with words.
 
2013-01-12 01:08:15 AM
No one bit on the "curing gay" troll. I'm proud of you Farkers.
 
2013-01-12 01:09:03 AM

gweilo8888: Bonanza Jellybean: Who is that redhead holding her? She's a stone fox.

That "stone fox" has the exact same eyes, nose, and mouth as the "panface" two to her left, to borrow lsherm's expression. Which means that in a couple of decades, that fox is almost certainly going to turn into cookware herself.

Danger, Will Robinson.


Not unless her eyes get three inches closer together and she manages to grow another two inches between her cheekbones and forehead.

The young'in has a chance because her dad's features rounded out her face a little bit.
 
2013-01-12 01:09:49 AM

namegoeshere: Darth_Lukecash: Whatever this kid is missing, may hold the key to immortality.

We do all get, don't we, that this would be a really, really bad thing?

Hell, even making the majority of us reach 100 would seriously fark the human race.

My nine year old had the immortality discussion in school today. Ethics in the fourth grade - I like it.


That depends entirely on the circumstances. Would you be willing to give up your reproductive capability in return for immortality?
 
2013-01-12 01:10:01 AM

Bonanza Jellybean: Who is that redhead holding her? She's a stone fox.


Is that trick photography like they used in the movie Elf to make Will Ferrell appear larger? Because, good lord, Katie Couric's head and arm look HUGE.
 
2013-01-12 01:11:26 AM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: it's like ogrish with words.


i am talking like 1995 ogrish, the last time i looked at that shiat either
 
2013-01-12 01:11:47 AM

Lsherm: Not unless her eyes get three inches closer together and she manages to grow another two inches between her cheekbones and forehead.

The young'in has a chance because her dad's features rounded out her face a little bit.


The young'in just isn't old enough to have developed the long face yet. I would put money on it happening. In fact, I'd put money on the panface's pics in younger days looking almost identical to the daughter.
 
2013-01-12 01:14:54 AM

GreenSun: What if she has the DNA for immortality? If we could just reconfigure the DNA after studying what she has and tune it to our "best age", wouldn't that be great? Forever 20, 25, or even 30 years old with a beautiful body and a sharp mind!


That's what I'm hoping.

Perhaps, while they're at it, they could even tweek her DNA and put her back on a normal development path.
 
2013-01-12 01:15:47 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-12 01:16:50 AM

Genevieve Marie: Yea, here's a factual account of it. That Encyclopedia Dramatica one should offend anyone with a soul.


Most people on FARK sold their soul for a dounut years ago.

I also linked to the wikipedia article in my post, by the way.
 
2013-01-12 01:19:59 AM

ArkAngel: "If somebody knocked on the door right now and said, 'It's a guaranteed pill. Give this to Brooke and she'll be fixed,' well first I would say to him, 'She's not broken.' And B, I would say, 'Thank you, but no thank you," Howard said in a video filmed for the "Katie" show.

The mother is a terrible person.


Agreed. She can't care for herself. That's broken.

Also, being tube fed is broken.
 
2013-01-12 01:20:03 AM

GreenSun: What if she has the DNA for immortality? If we could just reconfigure the DNA after studying what she has and tune it to our "best age", wouldn't that be great? Forever 20, 25, or even 30 years old with a beautiful body and a sharp mind!


Because the world's not overcrowded enough. Now we need 250-year olds with the bodies of 25-year olds, competing for food, shelter and all the other resources we need with the real 25-year olds. And the 50-year old 25-year olds. And the 75-year old 25-year olds. And the 100-year... you get my point.

Anybody who lusts after immortality is not only an idiot, but is also one of the most selfish farksticks on the planet.
 
2013-01-12 01:20:46 AM

BronyMedic: Genevieve Marie: Yea, here's a factual account of it. That Encyclopedia Dramatica one should offend anyone with a soul.

Most people on FARK sold their soul for a dounut years ago.

I also linked to the wikipedia article in my post, by the way.


you did link both, no one was questioning your level of humanity. you just happened to have posted the dramatica link first.
 
2013-01-12 01:20:59 AM

gweilo8888: GreenSun: What if she has the DNA for immortality? If we could just reconfigure the DNA after studying what she has and tune it to our "best age", wouldn't that be great? Forever 20, 25, or even 30 years old with a beautiful body and a sharp mind!

Because the world's not overcrowded enough. Now we need 250-year olds with the bodies of 25-year olds, competing for food, shelter and all the other resources we need with the real 25-year olds. And the 50-year old 25-year olds. And the 75-year old 25-year olds. And the 100-year... you get my point.

Anybody who lusts after immortality is not only an idiot, but is also one of the most selfish farksticks on the planet.


What's a better impetus for the development of space colonization technology?
 
2013-01-12 01:21:31 AM
I think the Mom's comment about the cure was a poor way of saying that they love her no matter what. Some folks are reading way too into it.

//course, Mom could want her to be a baby forever but I doubt it.
 
2013-01-12 01:24:29 AM

BronyMedic: I also linked to the wikipedia article in my post, by the way.


Sorry, I missed that. I remember the case though. It was an interesting story- I'm still not sure how I feel about it.
 
2013-01-12 01:25:38 AM

fusillade762: No one bit on the "curing gay" troll. I'm proud of you Farkers.


But it would be a chance to cure breederism. If everyone was gay, there would be world peace, no hunger, no disease and no poverty. Cum-by-ya.
 
2013-01-12 01:29:50 AM

BronyMedic: What's a better impetus for the development of space colonization technology?


Space colonization is a fairy tale.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20827860.100-why-space-is-the-i m possible-frontier.html

http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/2011/10/why-not-space/

It's a nice fairy tale, to be sure. But it's not going to happen any time soon, and even if it does happen, it's not going to happen in the form of millions of people leaving for the promised planet as they did for the promised land. It's going to happen in the form of a handful of very carefully-selected people leaving and starting a population anew somewhere else. We'll still have almost every single person who was born on earth still here, so "immortality" (even if it only doubles the upper bounds on age at death, and is only available to the richest ten percent of the population) is still going to worsen the already massive overcrowding we face.

So I repeat: anybody who dreams of immortality is a selfish farkstick. You're born, you die. Live the bit in between, and stop expecting it to last forever.
 
2013-01-12 01:30:22 AM
Typical Millennial.

*runs far, far away*
 
2013-01-12 01:30:23 AM

lasercannon: That's one sexy looking 20 year old.

//What? She's legal.
////I wonder if she likes candy and vans.


She's unable to give consent, so she's not legal.

Sorry for your loss, dude.
 
2013-01-12 01:31:00 AM

gweilo8888: Space colonization is a fairy tale.


You must be a blast at parties.

blog.zap2it.com
 
2013-01-12 01:31:37 AM

Darth_Lukecash: There is no such thing as immortality.


Yet.

My first thought about this case was if the girl has the mind of an adult she could make a metric assload of money doing porn or as a prostitute. That probably makes me a bad person though.
 
2013-01-12 01:34:09 AM

BronyMedic: You must be a blast at parties.


Hah!

I just don't like selfish people, and immortality is close to the most selfish thing anybody could possibly ask for.
 
2013-01-12 01:34:15 AM

gweilo8888: GreenSun: What if she has the DNA for immortality? If we could just reconfigure the DNA after studying what she has and tune it to our "best age", wouldn't that be great? Forever 20, 25, or even 30 years old with a beautiful body and a sharp mind!

Because the world's not overcrowded enough. Now we need 250-year olds with the bodies of 25-year olds, competing for food, shelter and all the other resources we need with the real 25-year olds. And the 50-year old 25-year olds. And the 75-year old 25-year olds. And the 100-year... you get my point.

Anybody who lusts after immortality is not only an idiot, but is also one of the most selfish farksticks on the planet.


Anyone who is immortal is obviously a vampire, therefore their very existence is a tax on the population! Duh!
 
2013-01-12 01:34:33 AM

gweilo8888: So I repeat: anybody who dreams of immortality is a selfish farkstick. You're born, you die. Live the bit in between, and stop expecting it to last forever.


That's OK. I'd be willing to put up with being called a selfish farkstick if I could get immortality.
 
2013-01-12 01:35:48 AM

twistofsin: Anyone who is immortal is obviously a vampire, therefore their very existence is a tax on the population! Duh!


Addicted to Being Human, so getting a kick out of this reply.
 
2013-01-12 01:37:29 AM
Scientists are now reading every letter of her DNA to determine what may have caused the condition.

Let me help you with that:

GACT

problem solved.
 
2013-01-12 01:37:54 AM

Skyrmion: gweilo8888: So I repeat: anybody who dreams of immortality is a selfish farkstick. You're born, you die. Live the bit in between, and stop expecting it to last forever.

That's OK. I'd be willing to put up with being called a selfish farkstick if I could get immortality.


Honestly, I think it would be horrible and unnatural. I'm comfortable with the fact that every life has to come to an end at some point. I like Albus Dumbledore's philosophy- that to the well ordered mind, death is nothing but the next great adventure.
 
2013-01-12 01:37:57 AM
when i was in the 8th grade i remember a 6th grader who didn't grow much more than a 11 year old but he was cognitive and smart. at the age of 11 he just stopped growing, i believe he died from complications before he made 9th grade.

the world evolves everyday. we ain't seen nothing yet
 
2013-01-12 01:38:16 AM

gweilo8888: I just don't like selfish people, and immortality is close to the most selfish thing anybody could possibly ask for.


I don't know... immortality seems as much a curse in reality, and the few who would ask for this are simply short sighted rather than selfish. I might compare this to a bodhisattva after a while, someone who delays this finality to assist the world.
 
2013-01-12 01:39:19 AM

Skyrmion: That's OK. I'd be willing to put up with being called a selfish farkstick if I could get immortality.


Even if you had to be this:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-12 01:40:23 AM

gweilo8888: You're born, you die. Live the bit in between, and stop expecting it to last forever.


who wants it to last forever? other than highlander?
 
2013-01-12 01:40:52 AM

Skyrmion: gweilo8888: So I repeat: anybody who dreams of immortality is a selfish farkstick. You're born, you die. Live the bit in between, and stop expecting it to last forever.

That's OK. I'd be willing to put up with being called a selfish farkstick if I could get immortality.


Ah, but would you be willing to put up with it forever?

Actually, anybody asking for immortality -- assuming they couldn't still end their own life, anyway -- hasn't thought it through even slightly. I'd imagine by your 500th full joint replacement, things would start to get rather tedious. And not being able to remember 99% of your own life. And dealing with the fact that technology had progressed so far that you simply couldn't understand how *anything* worked any more. (Ever seen a 60 or 70 year old struggling with a PC, which is little more than a typewriter on steroids, has been readily available for half their lives already, and developed alongside them where they had ample opportunity to learn as the tech progressed? Now imagine how well you're going to cope when dealing with the year 2500's technology.) And having watched thousands upon thousands of non-immortal friends and family come and go. Or alternatively, having had to deal with the overcrowding caused by all those other immortals if it became widely available.
 
2013-01-12 01:41:27 AM

gweilo8888: Lsherm: Not unless her eyes get three inches closer together and she manages to grow another two inches between her cheekbones and forehead.

The young'in has a chance because her dad's features rounded out her face a little bit.

The young'in just isn't old enough to have developed the long face yet. I would put money on it happening. In fact, I'd put money on the panface's pics in younger days looking almost identical to the daughter.


I don't know, bone growth after the teenage years isn't that significant.  The mother has a markedly different facial structure than the daughter.  Plus, nothing is going to make the teenager's eyes grow obscenely close together like her mother.
 
2013-01-12 01:43:54 AM
She may be Immortal Babby, but at least she isn't a freak like those primordial dwarves/
 
2013-01-12 01:44:47 AM

Genevieve Marie: Honestly, I think it would be horrible and unnatural. I'm comfortable with the fact that every life has to come to an end at some point. I like Albus Dumbledore's philosophy- that to the well ordered mind, death is nothing but the next great adventure.


Frankly, that line only makes sense if you believe in life after death. And people who believe they already are literally immortal beings really have no standing to lecture anyone else on desiring immortality.

(I happen to be fond of the section in "Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality" that deals precisely with the problems of Dumbledore's philosophy in this case.)
 
2013-01-12 01:45:48 AM

gweilo8888: BronyMedic: You must be a blast at parties.

Hah!

I just don't like selfish people, and immortality is close to the most selfish thing anybody could possibly ask for.


Driving a Hummer is way worse.

I'd love to be immortal. Eventually I would get tired of living, obviously, but the world is a very large place. I'm sure I could live several lifetimes at least without getting the least bit bored of it.
 
2013-01-12 01:47:28 AM

gweilo8888: Actually, anybody asking for immortality -- assuming they couldn't still end their own life, anyway -- hasn't thought it through even slightly. I'd imagine by your 500th full joint replacement, things would start to get rather tedious. And not being able to remember 99% of your own life. And dealing with the fact that technology had progressed so far that you simply couldn't understand how *anything* worked any more. (Ever seen a 60 or 70 year old struggling with a PC, which is little more than a typewriter on steroids, has been readily available for half their lives already, and developed alongside them where they had ample opportunity to learn as the tech progressed? Now imagine how well you're going to cope when dealing with the year 2500's technology.) And having watched thousands upon thousands of non-immortal friends and family come and go. Or alternatively, having had to deal with the overcrowding caused by all those other immortals if it became widely available.


Nah, I'm fine with all that.

However, drifting all alone in space for infinity years after the Sun burns itself out might get a little tiresome, I admit.
 
2013-01-12 01:48:42 AM

Skyrmion: Nah, I'm fine with all that.

However, drifting all alone in space for infinity years after the Sun burns itself out might get a little tiresome, I admit.


th03.deviantart.net

Wheatley agrees with you.
 
2013-01-12 01:50:28 AM

Jument: gweilo8888: BronyMedic: You must be a blast at parties.

Hah!

I just don't like selfish people, and immortality is close to the most selfish thing anybody could possibly ask for.

Driving a Hummer is way worse.

I'd love to be immortal. Eventually I would get tired of living, obviously, but the world is a very large place. I'm sure I could live several lifetimes at least without getting the least bit bored of it.


Pleased to meet you, hope you guessed my name.
 
2013-01-12 01:51:20 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: fusillade762: No one bit on the "curing gay" troll. I'm proud of you Farkers.

But it would be a chance to cure breederism. If everyone was gay, there would be world peace, no hunger, no disease and no poverty. Cum-by-ya.


Cause there would be no more people.
 
2013-01-12 01:56:29 AM

gweilo8888: And dealing with the fact that technology had progressed so far that you simply couldn't understand how *anything* worked any more. (Ever seen a 60 or 70 year old struggling with a PC, which is little more than a typewriter on steroids, has been readily available for half their lives already, and developed alongside them where they had ample opportunity to learn as the tech progressed? Now imagine how well you're going to cope when dealing with the year 2500's technology.)


And this is quite an aside, but I think the idea that "old people don't understand technology" is an illusion caused by a particular turn-of-the-millenium perspective, rather than something that's true of humanity in general.

For most Farkers reading this post, I suspect the line, "You know more about computers than your parents. You will know more about computers than your children." will be closer to the truth.
 
2013-01-12 02:03:59 AM
I once worked with a girl with a similar, though much less extreme, condition.  She was also about 20, maybe 22, but she looked like she was maybe 12.  The first time I saw her I assumed she was a kid who'd come to work with one of her parents.  No mental issues, though, like this girl.  From what I understand, she was just like anyone else, except that she looked like she was in middle school.
 
2013-01-12 02:16:11 AM
That poor girl.
 
2013-01-12 02:17:27 AM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: Jument: gweilo8888: BronyMedic: You must be a blast at parties.

Hah!

I just don't like selfish people, and immortality is close to the most selfish thing anybody could possibly ask for.

Driving a Hummer is way worse.

I'd love to be immortal. Eventually I would get tired of living, obviously, but the world is a very large place. I'm sure I could live several lifetimes at least without getting the least bit bored of it.

Pleased to meet you, hope you guessed my name.


Yes?
 
2013-01-12 02:20:28 AM

skylabdown: OMG...... journalism is so dead.

#1: Is she mentally a 20-year old? Or does she have diminished capacity?
#2: Is she not aging at all? IE: has she experienced puberty? Has she gotten adult teeth?

Can anyone write an article that answers BASIC questions anymore? WTF?


Hey Dumb ass,

What part of

"Despite her increasing age, Brooke has remained physically and cognitively similar to a toddler, with an estimated mental age of nine months to one year."

... do you not understand?
 
2013-01-12 02:38:49 AM

RedVentrue: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: fusillade762: No one bit on the "curing gay" troll. I'm proud of you Farkers.

But it would be a chance to cure breederism. If everyone was gay, there would be world peace, no hunger, no disease and no poverty. Cum-by-ya.

Cause there would be no more people.


d.gr-assets.com
 
2013-01-12 02:40:28 AM

gweilo8888: BronyMedic: You must be a blast at parties.

Hah!

I just don't like selfish people, and immortality is close to the most selfish thing anybody could possibly ask for.


That sounds like an extremely selfish attitude. Why would you be so selfish in your opinions as to deny others their chance at extended life?

(You're a walking contradiction, bucko.)
 
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