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(Talking Points Memo)   It looks like nobody is buying the 'gun control' they're selling, so they're re-branding it as 'gun safety'   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 30
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2206 clicks; posted to Politics » on 11 Jan 2013 at 3:05 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-01-11 05:28:13 PM  
2 votes:

quickdraw: make me some tea: EatenTheSun: make me some tea: Actually, that is a more accurate description of what we're looking for. "Penis control" is a rather hyperbolic.

Penis safety is pretty simple. Treat every penis like it is loaded. Don' t point a penis at anything you don't want to shoot. Keep your finger off the tringer until you are ready to fire. Done.

Don't give penises to crazy people.
Don't give penises to people with criminal records.
Squeeze slowly, the kick should surprise you.

See what I mean? Now its a much more entertaining thread.


WHAT HAVE YOU BEPENIS?
2013-01-11 05:26:53 PM  
2 votes:

make me some tea: EatenTheSun: make me some tea: Actually, that is a more accurate description of what we're looking for. "Penis control" is a rather hyperbolic.

Penis safety is pretty simple. Treat every penis like it is loaded. Don' t point a penis at anything you don't want to shoot. Keep your finger off the tringer until you are ready to fire. Done.

Don't give penises to crazy people.
Don't give penises to people with criminal records.
Squeeze slowly, the kick should surprise you.


See what I mean? Now its a much more entertaining thread.
2013-01-11 03:23:08 PM  
2 votes:

Fail in Human Form: "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so". - Thomas Jefferson


"Which one of my slaves am I gonna bang today?" - Thomas Jefferson
2013-01-11 02:56:36 PM  
2 votes:

violentsalvation: Might as well re-brand it "gun appearance control".


Either these features matter, serve a purpose etc and you should care

Or they're all cosmetic, and you shouldn't care


IT CANNOT BE BOTH, STOP THIS DISHONEST TALKING POINT
2013-01-11 02:06:53 PM  
2 votes:

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Cold. Dead. Fingers.

Proper gun control is using two hands.


So, if the Newtown shooter had used two hands, this all could have been avoided then?
2013-01-11 08:11:31 PM  
1 votes:

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Gun control will NEVER work!
But I'm sure if we give the War on Drugs just a LIIIIIITTLE more time, it'll start working any minute now.....
Any minute now....
Aaaaaaany minute.... NOW?


But you've got it all wrong. Marijuana isn't habit forming like guns are.
2013-01-11 07:24:21 PM  
1 votes:

Heraclitus: GameSprocket: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: GameSprocket: BraveNewCheneyWorld: GameSprocket: A woman who can't kill a guy with five rounds is a really bad argument for needing more rounds. Sounds like what she needed was more training.

Well, certainly anyone who isn't a highly trained stone cold killer doesn't deserve the right of self preservation.

I guess you're right. We should give her a tactical nuke. After all, she needs unlimited firepower.

Chainsaw vaginas. It's the only way they'll ever be safe.

And, they could get work as pencil sharpeners.

Chainsaw Vaginas would be a great name for a band!


They would wind up in a Russian jail.
2013-01-11 06:14:26 PM  
1 votes:

quickdraw: make me some tea: EatenTheSun: make me some tea: Actually, that is a more accurate description of what we're looking for. "Penis control" is a rather hyperbolic.

Penis safety is pretty simple. Treat every penis like it is loaded. Don' t point a penis at anything you don't want to shoot. Keep your finger off the tringer until you are ready to fire. Done.

Don't give penises to crazy people.
Don't give penises to people with criminal records.
Squeeze slowly, the kick should surprise you.

See what I mean? Now its a much more entertaining thread.


Lulz
2013-01-11 05:27:17 PM  
1 votes:
Can we all agree to dial back the wild hysteria a notch until there's a plan on the table from the administration?
2013-01-11 04:44:27 PM  
1 votes:

Fail in Human Form: While you may feel it's in poor taste, it's a way of being "in your face" with the issue and refusing to be demonized because of the actions of a murderer.


No, it's a way of being a farkin' moron and setting back their cause. You don't get to be "in your face" with a firearm and not have it be an issue. People seeing guys walking through the neighborhood with guns have every right to be concerned and call the cops. The waste of time with regards to the police and the school lockdown falls squarely on the shoulders of these two mental midgets.

Glancing Blow: Yea, I saw that in the paper this morning. One of the important statements in the article was that an Oregon concealed carry permit trumps any/all local gun-restrictive ordinances, including restricting open-carry.

Yes, it's a loophole that I'm sure the legislature will address pretty quickly. They're "concealed" weapons permits for a reason. That's what happens when folks don't show common sense. They mess it up for everybody.
2013-01-11 03:55:03 PM  
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: In Atlanta last week a thug broke into a woman's home while she was there with her children. She ended up shooting him 5 times in the face at close range (she ran out of bullets) and he was still able to exit the house and drive a short distance away. Imagine if there were two or three people that broke in or if she had missed. Still think 10 is reasonable?


I think that if there had been multiple people breaking in, she would not have gotten off the 5. She couldn't kill him with 5 so I am happy she ran out before she accidentally shot one of her kids.
2013-01-11 03:53:31 PM  
1 votes:
In Portland we just had a couple of knuckleheads walk around a neighborhood with semi auto rifles strung over their shoulders in hopes of "starting a discussion" about guns. This was fairly close to the mall that was shot up a couple of weeks ago.

So you can understand that this led instead to lots of concerned citizens calling the cops. A nearby school went into lockdown.

Gun rights advocates are the biggest threat to gun rights there is.
2013-01-11 03:45:18 PM  
1 votes:
Actually, how about an amendment sort of like the 21st? Turn over firearms regulation to state and local governments. Then we'll see what works and what doesn't.

Enthusiasts, please note that the words 'ban' and 'confiscate' appear nowhere in my post.

This should jibe well with the libertarian leanings of many of you.

/rubs hands together, waits for cognitive dissonance posts, hopes lib gun owners stay quiet.
2013-01-11 03:44:00 PM  
1 votes:
From your cold, dead hands? Acceptable.

If you would die for a piece of metal, that should be enough of a flag to disallow ownership of firearms.
2013-01-11 03:42:00 PM  
1 votes:

syrynxx: hubiestubert:
We need to have a discussion in this country about crime. Causes. Prevention. Why folks turn to violent crime. How we can reduce the factors and conditions that make it an option.

That means having a meaningful discussion on education, mental health, and economic opportunity as well as drug policy.

That's like having a meaningful discussion on Crips vs. Bloods.  Are we really going to try to rearchitect black society so that males marry the mothers of their children and have them grow up with honest, job-holding role models so the youths don't succumb to peer pressure to join a gang?  That's dumber than suggesting 10-round magazines are going to change anything.


1. It seems white dudes are the ones shooting up the schools

2. My lily white father wasn't much of a dad, irresponsibility is not limited to one race

3. Why the fark do you NEED a clip with more than 10 rounds? You may WANT it, but you don't NEED it. I WANT a tiger..... I have a housecat.

/I'm about to start the National Tiger Association and buy me some lobbyists. Damnit, I should be able to have any thing I want!!!! *wahhhhh*
2013-01-11 03:41:41 PM  
1 votes:

syrynxx: Gun ownership isn't a left-vs-right issue. Plenty of Democrats own firearms


and none of the democrats i know that own guns are sniveling little butthurt whiners who freak out at the slightest discussion of proper regulation of firearm ownership. the 2nd amendment doesn't say "any arms they want, with no conditions".
2013-01-11 03:32:13 PM  
1 votes:

CPennypacker: 1derful: Emrick: We should ban all semi-automatic weapons. Or tax the living shait out of them so very few people own one.

Or you could move to Europe, which is better suited to people who like totalitarian government control over people's individual lives.

Yeah Europe totally blows


Yeah, I hear they lock up a huge portion of their population. Oh wait, that's us.
Well, they still try to run your life by telling who you can love. Damn, still us.
At least we can't be locked up with no trial! ... Oh for farks sake, just forget it!
2013-01-11 03:22:57 PM  
1 votes:
All future gun purchases can only be made by registered members of official state or national militias, who are required to get cleared for duty every two years.

All weapons seized in the process of police work are to be destroyed if conviction of violent crime is the result of the case.

Magazine sizes are maxed at 6.

Silencers, body armor, and ammunition require the same level of clearance to purchase as a gun itself.

Easy solutions, and completely constitutional. Don't even have to go "gun-grabbing" as the wingnuts fear.
2013-01-11 03:21:08 PM  
1 votes:

dr-shotgun: I think it would. It will lower the number of casualties at these farking mass shootings, anyway.

Out of America's 10 worst mass shootings, only 1 involved an assault rifle (Newton). Furthermore, the Newton shooter was in the building for 10 minutes and fired less than 100 rounds; the same damage could easily have been inflicted with the handguns or shotgun he carried, neither of which are being addressed by any of the proposed bans. The worst mass shooting in US history was committed with two handguns.

So no, an assault rifle ban won't have any meaningful impact on the number of people killed, either in mass shootings or in more traditional gun murders.

Nobody who is pro-gun control has ever addressed these facts (all of which are readily available with a bit of Google), and articulated a reason why Democratic politicians always seem to race to assault rifle bans as their first answer to solving gun crime. It is the least effective proposal with the most pushback from the gun community that could possibly be implemented.


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2013-01-11 03:17:44 PM  
1 votes:

Muta: We need to drug test everyone who buys a gun or ammunition. We don't want drug dealers and druggies from getting guns do we?


Actually, that is one major reason why I *don't* own a gun. Who knows if I may or may not have illegal drugs in my home, and in my state, if I were to be caught with illegal drugs AND a gun (even if the gun was legal) I would go to jail for twice as long as if I just had the illegal drugs only. Hypothetical situation.
2013-01-11 03:17:09 PM  
1 votes:
Remember Gunfappers, your position grows weaker with every massacre and you've ensured there are plenty of guns around for them to continue.

Enjoy.
2013-01-11 03:13:47 PM  
1 votes:
I think calling it 'gun safety' is a great idea.

We need to drug test everyone who buys a gun or ammunition. We don't want drug dealers and druggies from getting guns do we?
2013-01-11 03:11:30 PM  
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2013-01-11 03:08:10 PM  
1 votes:
I would agree that gun safety is the proper term. We are far past gun control at this point, as far too many gun owners didn't control their guns and now we have plenty of criminals who have gotten them through various means.


They had their chance to control their guns, now we are in need of regulations to make our society safer from them.
2013-01-11 02:34:27 PM  
1 votes:
syrynxx: If you don't start with her, then you can't make judgments against anyone else.

Well Ted Nugent is crazy too.  And Wayne LaPierre isn't helping his case.
2013-01-11 02:28:54 PM  
1 votes:

make me some tea: dletter: make me some tea: Actually, that is a more accurate description of what we're looking for. "Gun control" is a rather hyperbolic.

Exactly.

One thing I'd like to know though.  The people who says that the 2nd Amendment is needed because they need the right to have guns to thwart a "take over" of America by a supposed "dictator" getting control within the government.   If somehow that did happen, do they really think their "Michigan Militia" and the like are going to take down this dictator?  It isn't like rebels trying to fight the government of Rwanda.... our government (and whomever is in charge of it) can squash you like a bug if they really thought they needed to...  I mean, the government can pull out weapons you'd never even think about.

I mean, ok, yeah, if everyone is fully "unarmed" , then, the "dictatorship" happens much easier, I won't deny that.  But, even if you are supposedly "armed to the teeth".... compared to a fully stocked US Armed Forces (assuming for the most part that the rank & file of the armed forces are on the side of the government)... you are nothing.

Of course, the people who believe this most likely think we are basically under a dictator right now, which is 90% of the problem.

Civilian gun ownership does not protect a populace from an authoritarian government, nor does it guarantee rule of law. Iraq under Saddam Hussein's rule had an armed populace, for example.


I dunno. I'm told everyone in the military are God fearing patriots that will rise up en masse with the civilian population to depose the Obamatator.
2013-01-11 02:26:46 PM  
1 votes:

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Cold. Dead. Fingers.Cuts

Proper gun sub control is using two hands.

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2013-01-11 02:13:51 PM  
1 votes:

EatenTheSun: Treat every gun like it is loaded. Don' t point a gun at anything you don't want to shoot. Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire.


I'm pretty sure most of the recent mass murders or attempted mass murders were working off of this ethos. That didn't seem to help the rest of us. I'm ready to call it inadequate.
2013-01-11 02:11:19 PM  
1 votes:
Might as well re-brand it "gun appearance control".
2013-01-11 02:06:07 PM  
1 votes:

dletter: One thing I'd like to know though. The people who says that the 2nd Amendment is needed because they need the right to have guns to thwart a "take over" of America by a supposed "dictator" getting control within the government.


Actually the 2nd amendment empowers the government to use the militia to fight off insurrections and threats.  Kind of the opposite of what these yahoos think it means.
 
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