gilgigamesh: kronicfeld: gilgigamesh: I'm just pissed they snubbed Django Unchained.It's nominated for best picture and Christolph Waltz is nominated for best supporting actor. How is that a snub?Its a snub because I'm an idiot.You're right; I heard Tarantino didn't get a best director nod and must have misunderstood.
make me some tea: Correct. I think many people see it as black and white, and it's not. We've tortured people and have gotten some actionable intel from doing so.
Red Shirt Blues: [www.freewebs.com image 600x325]Agrees
kronicfeld: Christolph Waltz is nominated for best supporting actor
MFL: MFL: Lincoln will win. It should win. DDL was amazing.That being said we all know what comes after this dog and pony show.....another wave of media sycophants attempting to use Lincoln and Obama in the same sentence as many times as possible.Slaves2Darkness Yeah I mean it is not like they were both from Illinois, both widely unpopular with southerners, both had an opposition party that considered their election to presidency illegitimate or that both did not have to deal with the raising sentiment of succession from the southern states.1. Obama is from Hawaii. He was handed a political opportunity in Chicago and took it.2. Nobody thinks his election is illegitimate other than a few kooks you libs love to prop up 33. Nobody is seriously thinking of succession. It's just a stupid protest to make a point.Exploiting everything and anything for political gain what democrats do. I understand that.... but this is getting really dumb.A hundred and fifty years later and the southern states are spewing the same shiat all over again.Really?There is nothing in common there. Obama is not at war with the south. He's at "war" with everyone outside of his urban "get out the vote" machine.Where would you draw the battle lines?
cptjeff: make me some tea: Correct. I think many people see it as black and white, and it's not. We've tortured people and have gotten some actionable intel from doing so.But not in this case- the movie is wrong, though not by any deliberate measures on the part of the people who made it. The reason the Senate is investigating is because a lot of this movie was made in close collaboration with CIA sources, and the Senate Intelligence Committee wants to know if the CIA deliberately lied to the producers of this movie to justify their torture program.Basically, a bunch of senators with bipartisan cred thinks the CIA was deliberately trying to distort the popular perception of the historical record to make themselves and their torture program look good.
MFL: MFL: Obama (...) is at "war" with everyone outside of his urban "get out the vote" machine.
MFL: He's at "war" with everyone outside of his urban "get out the vote" machine.
FlashHarry: Brick-House: 0bama wasn't in it!!!i guess i don't get the 0bama thing. do you use a zero instead of an 'o' because you think the president is an "empty suit?" just curious.
MFL: Lincoln will win. It should win. DDL was amazing.That being said we all know what comes after this dog and pony show.....another wave of media sycophants attempting to use Lincoln and Obama in the same sentence as many times as possible.
AmazinTim: coco ebert: make me some teaOverall, did you find the movie more right-wing or left-wing in its depiction of torture (it is sad that we even have a divided population on this issue but I digress).One interesting thing about this movie was that it was entirely morally ambivalent. It had no opinions. It wasn't left or right, right or wrong, it just was.When the torturing went away, it became operationally more difficult to get information, and the information that ultimately led to UBL's death came from the detainee program.
AmazinTim: Saw it as well last weekend, felt they could have cut an easy twenty minutes off of it. I also wouldn't have minded some sort of briefing scene before the mission. I found the entire take down very confusing as far as where the teams were and which doors they were breaking down etc. A 90 second briefing going over the mission, the compound etc would have made the final sequence a lot more coherent. Also, **SPOILERS**I got very confused when half of the reason for attacking the compound was because they determined there was a third man living there, and in the mission they killed 4 men, they popped the third guy and I assumed it was UBL and then they kept going.
AmazinTim: There was a genuine sense of relief and loss at the end which i appreciated as well.
WalkingCarpet: I saw it, thought it was very good. Didn't affect me the same way but I appreciated it as an excellent piece of filmmaking that managed to make something that could have been very boring very interesting.Then again I love movies that get into the intricacies of how the government (specifically the CIA/FBI) works on a nitty gritty level.
make me some tea: I saw ZDT last weekend and it was fantastic. (early release in NYC)I'm interested in hearing people's opinions of the movie after seeing it. Has anyone here seen it yet?I found it unexpectedly emotional. It left me in a very strange, complicated mental state. I was actually weeping as the credits rolled. Not sure if anyone else in the theater felt that way, but I did.
Blues_X: Moonrise Kingdom is the one that should have more nominations.
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