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(NYPost)   Best director Oscar snubs for "Zero Dark Thirty" and "Argo" send a clear message: make a movie in which Americans act heroically against Islamic enemies of the United States, and you lose   (nypost.com ) divider line
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2013-01-11 12:34:58 PM  
It's OK sir I'm from the internet. This is a textbook case of butthurt. Take three tequila shots, get the hell over yourself and call me in the morning
 
2013-01-11 12:40:11 PM  
These assholes get butthurt about everything these days.

Sheesh, chill out already, sometimes a duck is just a farking duck and not some vast liberal conspiracy to shiat on America.
 
2013-01-11 12:42:24 PM  
The movies have twelve nominations between them. But, right, I'm sure being left out of ONE category is irrefutable proof that Hollywood is anti-American. In no way does this argument make you look like a raving, right-wing lunatic.

/edited for redundancy.
 
2013-01-11 12:44:46 PM  
I'm just pissed they snubbed Django Unchained.
 
2013-01-11 12:46:26 PM  

gilgigamesh: I'm just pissed they snubbed Django Unchained.


It's nominated for best picture and Christolph Waltz is nominated for best supporting actor. How is that a snub?
 
2013-01-11 12:48:35 PM  
Someone had to work to find something to be offended about this morning for their column and it shows.
 
2013-01-11 12:50:06 PM  

kronicfeld: gilgigamesh: I'm just pissed they snubbed Django Unchained.

It's nominated for best picture and Christolph Waltz is nominated for best supporting actor. How is that a snub?


Its a snub because I'm an idiot.

You're right; I heard Tarantino didn't get a best director nod and must have misunderstood.
 
2013-01-11 12:50:59 PM  
Moonrise Kingdom is the one that should have more nominations.
 
2013-01-11 12:57:42 PM  
"Conservative" media before release of Zero Dark Thirty: "We must boycott this love letter to Fartbama to send a mesage to the Hollyweird Homocrats!"

"Conservative" media after release of Zero Dark Thirty: "Why do Hollyweird Homocrats refuse to properly acknowledge the greatness of this film?!?"
 
2013-01-11 12:57:48 PM  

kronicfeld: Christolph Waltz is nominated for best supporting actor


and deserves to win
 
2013-01-11 01:02:08 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Hollyweird Homocrats


This is now the name for my band.

Seems like I get a new one out of this site every week....
 
2013-01-11 01:39:25 PM  
Man, I was waiting for the inevitable conservative butthurt over the Oscar noms, but I figured it would come from outrage about the French subtitles or the movie about global warming.
 
2013-01-11 01:39:52 PM  
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2013-01-11 01:44:27 PM  
Or it could just be that neither of those movies is very good.

Haven't seen ZeroDarkThirty yet but Argo was boring as all hell. I'd rather have seen the sci fi movie they were pretending to make.
 
2013-01-11 01:45:42 PM  
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2013-01-11 01:49:52 PM  

Blues_X: Moonrise Kingdom is the one that should have more nominations.


This.  Loved it.  Every second.
 
2013-01-11 01:50:13 PM  

sigdiamond2000: "Conservative" media before release of Zero Dark Thirty: "We must boycott this love letter to Fartbama to send a mesage to the Hollyweird Homocrats!"

"Conservative" media after release of Zero Dark Thirty: "Why do Hollyweird Homocrats refuse to properly acknowledge the greatness of this film?!?"



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2013-01-11 01:50:43 PM  
I saw ZDT last weekend and it was fantastic. (early release in NYC)

I'm interested in hearing people's opinions of the movie  after seeing it. Has anyone here seen it yet?

I found it unexpectedly emotional. It left me in a very strange, complicated mental state. I was actually weeping as the credits rolled. Not sure if anyone else in the theater felt that way, but I did.
 
2013-01-11 01:53:25 PM  

make me some tea: I was actually weeping


babby!
 
2013-01-11 01:54:58 PM  

basemetal: make me some tea: I was actually weeping

babby!


/Saving Private Ryan really made my allergies stir.....
 
2013-01-11 01:56:00 PM  
Zero Dark Thirty was pro-Obama nonsense about "him getting Osama"... until it wasn't.
 
2013-01-11 01:56:08 PM  
John Podhoretz is the son of the infamous Norman Podhoretz, the original architect of that disgusting failure of an ideology called  "NeoConserativism." John's just pissed that his shipments of Iraqi children's blood have been falling off as of late. His father was a prize too, only going on interview shows if he got to exclude any other guests who disagreed or debated him. Not surprisingly, the son inherited the father's job at Commentary in a gross act of incestuous psuedo-intellectual nepotism.
 
2013-01-11 01:57:09 PM  

make me some tea: I saw ZDT last weekend and it was fantastic. (early release in NYC)

I'm interested in hearing people's opinions of the movie  after seeing it. Has anyone here seen it yet?


I saw it, thought it was very good.  Didn't affect me the same way but I appreciated it as an excellent piece of filmmaking that managed to make something that could have been very boring very interesting.

Then again I love movies that get into the intricacies of how the government (specifically the CIA/FBI) works on a nitty gritty level.
 
2013-01-11 01:58:28 PM  

GAT_00: Someone had to work to find something to be offended about this morning for their column and it shows.


Ol' Johnny and his papa have a lot of experience in that department. They'd openly like to start WWIII with Iran. I'm not kidding.
 
2013-01-11 02:12:02 PM  

basemetal: basemetal: make me some tea: I was actually weeping

babby!

/Saving Private Ryan really made my allergies stir.....


Damn straight.
 
2013-01-11 02:14:54 PM  

make me some tea: I saw ZDT last weekend and it was fantastic. (early release in NYC)

I'm interested in hearing people's opinions of the movie  after seeing it. Has anyone here seen it yet?

I found it unexpectedly emotional. It left me in a very strange, complicated mental state. I was actually weeping as the credits rolled. Not sure if anyone else in the theater felt that way, but I did.


Saw it as well last weekend, felt they could have cut an easy twenty minutes off of it. I also wouldn't have minded some sort of briefing scene before the mission. I found the entire take down very confusing as far as where the teams were and which doors they were breaking down etc. A 90 second briefing going over the mission, the compound etc would have made the final sequence a lot more coherent. Also, **SPOILERS**I got very confused when half of the reason for attacking the compound was because they determined there was a third man living there, and in the mission they killed 4 men, they popped the third guy and I assumed it was UBL and then they kept going.

Aside from that I found the movie incredibly frustrating, which is to say the plight of the main character was often full of frustrating and tedious methods and dead-ends, so it succeeded in the respect. There was a genuine sense of relief and loss at the end which i appreciated as well.
 
2013-01-11 02:15:29 PM  
I thought Ben Affleck was a socialist.  Why should anyone reward him with anything?
 
2013-01-11 02:17:47 PM  

WalkingCarpet: I saw it, thought it was very good.  Didn't affect me the same way but I appreciated it as an excellent piece of filmmaking that managed to make something that could have been very boring very interesting.

Then again I love movies that get into the intricacies of how the government (specifically the CIA/FBI) works on a nitty gritty level.


I tend to get really emotional over 9/11-related stuff, so it's probably me. I wept the night Obama announced he'd been killed, too.

I think what struck me was that the killing of OBL was justice coming due, but it wasn't any sort of triumph. There's nothing to be happy about with any of this business.
 
2013-01-11 02:20:08 PM  

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One of the few Oscar snubs that really pissed me off.  Same when he lost for Apollo 13.  I think in that case they were just scared to give it to the same actor three years in a row, since he'd won previously for Philadelphia and Forrest Gump.  Tom Hanks should have 4 Oscars.  He's just that damn good.
 
2013-01-11 02:21:00 PM  

AmazinTim: Saw it as well last weekend, felt they could have cut an easy twenty minutes off of it. I also wouldn't have minded some sort of briefing scene before the mission. I found the entire take down very confusing as far as where the teams were and which doors they were breaking down etc. A 90 second briefing going over the mission, the compound etc would have made the final sequence a lot more coherent. Also, **SPOILERS**I got very confused when half of the reason for attacking the compound was because they determined there was a third man living there, and in the mission they killed 4 men, they popped the third guy and I assumed it was UBL and then they kept going.


Hmm. I didn't have much trouble following it, I think it accurately captured the ordered chaos of the operation, but yeah a briefing could've helped. I think they also showed too much of the torture. About half of that would've been enough to get the point across. Minor criticisms, though.

AmazinTim: There was a genuine sense of relief and loss at the end which i appreciated as well.


That's the description I was looking for, thanks.
 
2013-01-11 02:30:03 PM  
make me some tea

Overall, did you find the movie more right-wing or left-wing in its depiction of torture (it is sad that we even have a divided population on this issue but I digress).
 
2013-01-11 02:30:09 PM  
I saw Zero Dark Thirty and would have been far more impressed if it was a more honest film. Like Osama bin Laden was created and supported by the US in the first place. Kinda takes away from the whole "good vs. evil" bullshiat in that film.

I remember another line from that film that made me laugh. The main lead actress said something like she was hired by the CIA right out of high school, it was her first job. I think she was saying it to some Chief of Defense guy in a cafeteria...hired right out of high school huh? And your first job was being present in CIA torture sessions in "Black Ops" areas?

One hell of a apprenticeship program you're running there, CIA.

Anyways, fark that film.
 
2013-01-11 02:30:51 PM  
Or, could be, ya know, it's not a perfect system, and sometimes things like this happen, eg The Color Purple not winning a single category...

Nope, it must be those libby libetard liberal homowood types...
 
2013-01-11 02:32:20 PM  
Oh, and I saw Argo too. Bored me to tears. Important rule in filmaking: if you're setting is in Canada, or you're depicting Canadians, it's gonna be boring.
 
2013-01-11 02:36:38 PM  

coco ebert: make me some tea

Overall, did you find the movie more right-wing or left-wing in its depiction of torture (it is sad that we even have a divided population on this issue but I digress).


One interesting thing about this movie was that it was entirely morally ambivalent. It had no opinions. It wasn't left or right, right or wrong, it just was.

When the torturing went away, it became operationally more difficult to get information, and the information that ultimately led to UBL's death came from the detainee program.
 
2013-01-11 02:43:01 PM  

AmazinTim: coco ebert: make me some tea

Overall, did you find the movie more right-wing or left-wing in its depiction of torture (it is sad that we even have a divided population on this issue but I digress).

One interesting thing about this movie was that it was entirely morally ambivalent. It had no opinions. It wasn't left or right, right or wrong, it just was.

When the torturing went away, it became operationally more difficult to get information, and the information that ultimately led to UBL's death came from the detainee program.


Yes, IMHO, they did a fine job of making it apolitical. I appreciated that. It leaves the moral judgment up to the viewer. I'm rather confused by people who are trying to turn it into a political football, because it really isn't. This is what happened, this is how it happened, it's up to you to feel bad, good or indifferent about it
 
2013-01-11 02:45:35 PM  

make me some tea: AmazinTim: coco ebert: make me some tea

Overall, did you find the movie more right-wing or left-wing in its depiction of torture (it is sad that we even have a divided population on this issue but I digress).

One interesting thing about this movie was that it was entirely morally ambivalent. It had no opinions. It wasn't left or right, right or wrong, it just was.

When the torturing went away, it became operationally more difficult to get information, and the information that ultimately led to UBL's death came from the detainee program.

Yes, IMHO, they did a fine job of making it apolitical. I appreciated that. It leaves the moral judgment up to the viewer. I'm rather confused by people who are trying to turn it into a political football, because it really isn't. This is what happened, this is how it happened, it's up to you to feel bad, good or indifferent about it


(for the record I think the whole business sucks and shouldn't have happened, but I also understand how anger and a national desire for revenge for 9/11 put our country in such a dark place where we actually, for a time, thought these methods were necessary and useful)
 
2013-01-11 02:49:32 PM  

AmazinTim: coco ebert: make me some tea

Overall, did you find the movie more right-wing or left-wing in its depiction of torture (it is sad that we even have a divided population on this issue but I digress).

One interesting thing about this movie was that it was entirely morally ambivalent. It had no opinions. It wasn't left or right, right or wrong, it just was.

When the torturing went away, it became operationally more difficult to get information, and the information that ultimately led to UBL's death came from the detainee program.


Well, the whole "torture never works and therefore we shouldn't do it" argument was always weaksauce anyway. We should be morally opposed to it, not just against it for pragmatic reasons.
 
2013-01-11 02:50:11 PM  

make me some tea: I'm rather confused by people who are trying to turn it into a political football, because it really isn't.


I know you've been on Fark far too long for that to be true!  ;-)
 
2013-01-11 02:51:20 PM  

coco ebert: Well, the whole "torture never works and therefore we shouldn't do it" argument was always weaksauce anyway. We should be morally opposed to it, not just against it for pragmatic reasons.


While very true, it's still a good "at the end of the day" type argument.  Since efficacy is the last ditch argument to justify it.
 
2013-01-11 02:59:14 PM  

coco ebert: AmazinTim: coco ebert: make me some tea

Overall, did you find the movie more right-wing or left-wing in its depiction of torture (it is sad that we even have a divided population on this issue but I digress).

One interesting thing about this movie was that it was entirely morally ambivalent. It had no opinions. It wasn't left or right, right or wrong, it just was.

When the torturing went away, it became operationally more difficult to get information, and the information that ultimately led to UBL's death came from the detainee program.

Well, the whole "torture never works and therefore we shouldn't do it" argument was always weaksauce anyway. We should be morally opposed to it, not just against it for pragmatic reasons.


Correct. I think many people see it as black and white, and it's not. We've tortured people and have gotten some actionable intel from doing so. It doesn't make it right, and we don't have to feel good about it, and it's good that we've stopped doing it now. The years after 9/11 put us into an unusual mental state.

Could we have gotten that intel another way? Maybe? Probably? Unlikely? Who knows. Did the terrorists win? Well, I think they got a good rise out of us, and it's probably what they were after, for better or for worse.
 
2013-01-11 03:00:13 PM  

Diogenes: make me some tea: I'm rather confused by people who are trying to turn it into a political football, because it really isn't.

I know you've been on Fark far too long for that to be true!  ;-)


Didn't say it was unexpected. Irrational, yes.
 
2013-01-11 03:17:51 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: I thought Ben Affleck was a socialist.  Why should anyone reward him with anything?


the pledge of allegiance was written by a socialist. why do you hate america?
 
2013-01-11 03:22:11 PM  
I thought Zero Dark Thirty was snubbed for having the dumbest sounding title since Threat Level Midnight.
 
2013-01-11 03:26:33 PM  

make me some tea: Yes, IMHO, they did a fine job of making it apolitical. I appreciated that. It leaves the moral judgment up to the viewer. I'm rather confused by people who are trying to turn it into a political football, because it really isn't. This is what happened, this is how it happened, it's up to you to feel bad, good or indifferent about it


Yeah, you're right. Torture is just one of those things that happens, and how could we really make any judgements on people with regard to whether or not they're for or against torture?
 
2013-01-11 03:27:25 PM  
Glad to year it's no longer an Obama propaganda film. Some Real 'Murikin must have snuck in the cutting room and edited that stuff out.

So for those who have seen it, is it actually good, or is it just likable because of the story and our emotional attachment to it as Americans?
 
2013-01-11 03:27:42 PM  

sigdiamond2000: "Conservative" media before release of Zero Dark Thirty: "We must boycott this love letter to Fartbama to send a mesage to the Hollyweird Homocrats!"

"Conservative" media after release of Zero Dark Thirty: "Why do Hollyweird Homocrats refuse to properly acknowledge the greatness of this film?!?"


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2013-01-11 03:29:14 PM  
It's a reverse-troll by the Jews that control the media.
 
2013-01-11 03:29:24 PM  
Yeah, how dare they choose directors who filmed anti-American films like Lincoln.
 
2013-01-11 03:31:48 PM  
Oh yes, subby, because propaganda should always be awarded.
 
2013-01-11 03:31:55 PM  

WalkingCarpet: These assholes get butthurt about everything these days.

Sheesh, chill out already, sometimes a duck is just a farking duck and not some vast liberal conspiracy to shiat on America.


Butthurt you say...

www.barenakedislam.com
 
2013-01-11 03:32:47 PM  
Yeah, nothing says "We hate our American troops" quite like The Hurt Locker.
 
2013-01-11 03:33:19 PM  

gilgigamesh: kronicfeld: gilgigamesh: I'm just pissed they snubbed Django Unchained.

It's nominated for best picture and Christolph Waltz is nominated for best supporting actor. How is that a snub?

Its a snub because I'm an idiot.

You're right; I heard Tarantino didn't get a best director nod and must have misunderstood.


Tarantino SHOULD have received a best director nod, though. Every time he makes a movie I come out of the theater swearing he has the American zeitgeist locked in his basement, where he beats it until it tells him exactly what we all want, deep in our black little hearts, to really see.
 
2013-01-11 03:34:21 PM  
At least QT isn't going to get it. The actors save his ego stroke movies.
 
2013-01-11 03:34:40 PM  

gopher321: The main lead actress said something like she was hired by the CIA right out of high school, it was her first job.


That's certainly not impossible, or at least it didn't used to be. They used to recruit some people based on who they were related to. Even those people had to pass certain tests, though.
 
2013-01-11 03:34:51 PM  
didn't Bigelow already sweep a few Oscars for The Hurt Locker? isn't ZDT basically its sequel (yeah, I know, not directly, but still)?
 
2013-01-11 03:38:29 PM  

make me some tea: We've tortured people and have gotten some actionable intel from doing so.


[Citation Needed]
 
2013-01-11 03:38:35 PM  
Israeli propaganda films, in our Hollywood?
 
2013-01-11 03:39:00 PM  
I saw Argo and while I don't claim to be any kind of judge on what denotes "good direction", I wasn't all that impressed with the movie. I mean, it's a good story and all, but the movie left me feeling unsatisfied.
 
2013-01-11 03:39:28 PM  

gilgigamesh: I'm just pissed they snubbed Django Unchained.


That's OK. Just wait for the next movie in the revenge fantasy trilogy. First the Jews, then African Americans, who haven't we picked yet...hmmmmm... Chinese!

Get ready, for 'ANCIENT CHINESE SECRET'. Starring Jet-Li as Calgon , a lowly railroad construction worker, who after a long day of building the railroad must get the overseer's shirts soft and silky.

HERE! Here's your ancient chinese secret mutherfarker!!! HIIIIIIIIIIYAAHHHHHHHHH!

/and Oscar.
 
2013-01-11 03:42:07 PM  
I thought that Zero Dark Thirty was a thinly-veiled propaganda piece aimed at boosting the Failure in Chief's sagging poll numbers during the last election season? Make up your minds conservatives, I can't keep up.
 
2013-01-11 03:43:36 PM  
People keep freaking out about the movies that were nominated for Best Picture but not Best Director. Hint: There are 5 movies up for Best Director, and 10 for best picture. I don't understand how people don't get it.
 
2013-01-11 03:45:26 PM  
weren't both nominated for best picture?
 
2013-01-11 03:46:45 PM  
Didn't Hurt Locker just win a couple years ago? Are republicans going to take to the streets to demand that every year the Academy must award the oscar to a Team America movie?
 
2013-01-11 03:46:49 PM  

Pertifly: People keep freaking out about the movies that were nominated for Best Picture but not Best Director. Hint: There are 5 movies up for Best Director, and 10 for best picture. I don't understand how people don't get it.


People are mostly stupid and whiny. It follows that people seek out stupid reasons to whine.
 
MFL
2013-01-11 03:47:16 PM  
Lincoln will win. It should win. DDL was amazing.

That being said we all know what comes after this dog and pony show.....another wave of media sycophants attempting to use Lincoln and Obama in the same sentence as many times as possible.
 
2013-01-11 03:48:50 PM  

Shaggy_C: I thought that Zero Dark Thirty was a thinly-veiled propaganda piece aimed at boosting the Failure in Chief's sagging poll numbers during the last election season? Make up your minds conservatives, I can't keep up.


Nope, it was heavily veiled Obama attack piece.

Zero? as in 0bama

DARK? as in... well, 'nuff said.

Come ON!!!
 
2013-01-11 03:51:16 PM  

MFL: Lincoln will win. It should win. DDL was amazing.

That being said we all know what comes after this dog and pony show.....another wave of media sycophants attempting to use Lincoln and Obama in the same sentence as many times as possible.


Yeah I mean it is not like they were both from Illinois, both widely unpopular with southerners, both had an opposition party that considered their election to presidency illegitimate or that both did not have to deal with the raising sentiment of succession from the southern states.

A hundred and fifty years later and the southern states are spewing the same shiat all over again.
 
2013-01-11 03:51:27 PM  

theknuckler_33: Shaggy_C: I thought that Zero Dark Thirty was a thinly-veiled propaganda piece aimed at boosting the Failure in Chief's sagging poll numbers during the last election season? Make up your minds conservatives, I can't keep up.

Nope, it was heavily veiled Obama attack piece.

Zero? as in 0bama

DARK? as in... well, 'nuff said.

Come ON!!!


Best part of ZD30... 0bama wasn't in it!!!
 
2013-01-11 03:52:17 PM  

make me some tea: Correct. I think many people see it as black and white, and it's not. We've tortured people and have gotten some actionable intel from doing so.


But not in this case- the movie is wrong, though not by any deliberate measures on the part of the people who made it. The reason the Senate is investigating is because a lot of this movie was made in close collaboration with CIA sources, and the Senate Intelligence Committee wants to know if the CIA deliberately lied to the producers of this movie to justify their torture program.

Basically, a bunch of senators with bipartisan cred thinks the CIA was deliberately trying to distort the popular perception of the historical record to make themselves and their torture program look good.
 
2013-01-11 03:52:24 PM  

MFL: Lincoln will win. It should win. DDL was amazing.

That being said we all know what comes after this dog and pony show.....another wave of media sycophants attempting to use Lincoln and Obama in the same sentence as many times as possible.


And we all know how much conservatives hate the idea of comparing today's politicians to a well-loved politician from the past.
 
2013-01-11 03:53:28 PM  
Brick-House:
Best part of ZD30... 0bama wasn't in it!!!

Yes he was.  For about five seconds, but he was in it.
 
2013-01-11 03:53:53 PM  

you are a puppet: Didn't Hurt Locker just win a couple years ago? Are republicans going to take to the streets to demand that every year the Academy must award the oscar to a Team America movie?


Well, this year, it's entirely possible, even likely, that they'll give Best Picture to a movie glorifying French Socialists.
 
2013-01-11 03:53:55 PM  

Brick-House: theknuckler_33: Shaggy_C: I thought that Zero Dark Thirty was a thinly-veiled propaganda piece aimed at boosting the Failure in Chief's sagging poll numbers during the last election season? Make up your minds conservatives, I can't keep up.

Nope, it was heavily veiled Obama attack piece.

Zero? as in 0bama

DARK? as in... well, 'nuff said.

Come ON!!!

Best part of ZD30... 0bama wasn't in it!!!


Where's the picture?
 
2013-01-11 03:55:06 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: make me some tea: We've tortured people and have gotten some actionable intel from doing so.

[Citation Needed]


I'm sorry, that information is classified.
 
2013-01-11 03:55:59 PM  

cptjeff: Basically, a bunch of senators with bipartisan cred thinks the CIA was deliberately trying to distort the popular perception of the historical record to make themselves and their torture program look good.


Hmm. Well I'll be interested in seeing what they come up with.
 
2013-01-11 03:57:38 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: MFL: Lincoln will win. It should win. DDL was amazing.

That being said we all know what comes after this dog and pony show.....another wave of media sycophants attempting to use Lincoln and Obama in the same sentence as many times as possible.

Yeah I mean it is not like they were both from Illinois, both widely unpopular with southerners, both had an opposition party that considered their election to presidency illegitimate or that both did not have to deal with the raising rising sentiment of succession secession from the southern states.

A hundred and fifty years later and the southern states are spewing the same shiat all over again.


fify
 
2013-01-11 03:58:20 PM  
Looking forward to seeing ZDT this weekend.

I LURVE me some Tarantino - but I didn't disagree with his lack of a nod for Director: Django needed about 30 minutes less. Walz was just the sniznit and should walk away with the award - but it would be a serious horse race if the egregious oversights of no Samuel L Jackson and DiCaprio weren't left off. (Walz would still probably have the edge - but it would be close if those two hadn't been completely ignored.)

(Seriously - Leo had to have killed a buttload of Academy member puppies to get the routine snubs he's on the wrong end of!)
 
2013-01-11 03:59:51 PM  
I'm going to make a movie about whiny, butthurt "conservatives."

I'll just leave a camera to record for 90 minutes or so in the presence of any these "conservative media" babies.

Seriously, can these guys do anything but biatch and moan?  Grow the fark up.
 
2013-01-11 04:03:06 PM  
While I do think Ben Affleck deserved the nomination, snubs happen all the time. I'm sure the millions he's made from that film alone will be more than enough to soothe his hurt pride. Besides, the film got nominated for best film and best supporting actor. A lot of filmmakers/actors would love to have even one nomination.
 
2013-01-11 04:25:48 PM  

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Les Miserables really didn't need to be made...since it had been already done.
 
2013-01-11 04:30:39 PM  

gilgigamesh: kronicfeld: gilgigamesh: I'm just pissed they snubbed Django Unchained.

It's nominated for best picture and Christolph Waltz is nominated for best supporting actor. How is that a snub?

Its a snub because I'm an idiot.

You're right; I heard Tarantino didn't get a best director nod and must have misunderstood.


And be better well farking get it.
 
2013-01-11 04:32:20 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: [www.freewebs.com image 600x325]
Agrees


He should have gotten a supporting actor nom for Cloud Atlas, just for the writer character alone.
 
2013-01-11 04:34:51 PM  

Brick-House: 0bama wasn't in it!!!


i guess i don't get the 0bama thing. do you use a zero instead of an 'o' because you think the president is an "empty suit?" just curious.
 
2013-01-11 04:38:08 PM  
This thread went full of derp when it went green, I just realized it's in the Politics tab. I feel dirty now.
 
2013-01-11 04:38:55 PM  
The film is nominated best picture, that is not a snub.
 
2013-01-11 04:42:12 PM  
Jebus Christ some people can't ever switch off the partisan asshole circuit in their brains even when watching farking movies. People like that ought to drink bleach and stop mucking up the political process for the rest of us.
 
2013-01-11 04:44:52 PM  

bongmiester: kronicfeld: Christolph Waltz is nominated for best supporting actor

and deserves to win


Indeed. Dude got snubbed for that other huge film he did. You know the one I'm talking about. Yup.

Green Hornet
 
2013-01-11 04:46:52 PM  

FlashHarry: Brick-House: 0bama wasn't in it!!!

i guess i don't get the 0bama thing. do you use a zero instead of an 'o' because you think the president is an "empty suit?" just curious.


"0bama" is so old school.  Now the patriots (freepers) just call him zero.

By the end of this term hell be  -
 
2013-01-11 04:47:08 PM  
Sometimes my day is just kind of "meh", nothing exciting, but nothing bad either. Then I realize that some conservatives are working up a full-blown poutrage fest over a movie (one which I hope to see, btw). And immediately my day is improved, simply by the existence of their butthurt.

Thanks, smits!
 
2013-01-11 04:51:45 PM  
Since when does anyone give a shiat about the Oscars. Oh noes, our Hollywood movie didn't get nominated into the circle jerk of the year award! What does it mean!??!?!
 
2013-01-11 04:55:33 PM  

bongmiester: kronicfeld: Christolph Waltz is nominated for best supporting actor

and deserves to win


If it were up to me, I would have given the nomination to Dicaprio. His performance was just as good, if not better than Waltz's, and he gets extra points for degree of difficulty.
 
paj
2013-01-11 04:56:37 PM  
Zero Dark Thirty kinda sucked. There, I said it. Not that it was horrible, just that it wasn't good. Shallow performances, stock characters, etc. Politics aside it just wasn't that good a film.
 
2013-01-11 04:57:16 PM  
So the producers of these film weren't snubbed since they get the statues for Best Picture. Can I assume the article was written by a hack?
 
2013-01-11 04:57:44 PM  

MFL: Lincoln will win. It should win. DDL was amazing.

That being said we all know what comes after this dog and pony show.....another wave of media sycophants attempting to use Lincoln and Obama in the same sentence as many times as possible.


Need to just rename Best Actor Award to "Daniel Day Lewis, Or A Temporary Fill In Since DDL Didn't Make A Movie This Year" Award.

Yet another reason the 90s sucked? Tom Hanks was that decades Daniel Day Lewis.
 
2013-01-11 05:00:31 PM  
FTFA: And Affleck? His film about the Iranian hostage crisis of 1978-1979 begins with a prologue blaming successive US governments for the political conditions inside Iran that led to the anti-American depradations of the Ayatollah's handmaidens.

My favorite part: even the ACTUAL CIA admits Operation Ajax did exactly that, asshole:

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-11 05:13:58 PM  
Eh, people will think any action or inaction is anti-whatever-the-hell-they-are-in-favor-of if they squint at it hard enough.

I'm probably the anti-Americanest-anti-American ever in their book because I skipped both films but watched Wreck-It Ralph, ParaNorman, and part one of The Hobbit twice each.
 
2013-01-11 05:15:05 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Tom Hanks should have 4 Oscars. He's just that damn good.


Yeah, he is.
 
2013-01-11 05:19:23 PM  

paj: Zero Dark Thirty kinda sucked. There, I said it. Not that it was horrible, just that it wasn't good. Shallow performances, stock characters, etc. Politics aside it just wasn't that good a film.


I haven't seen it, but I have noticed that my friends who have are decidedly, "yeah, it was pretty good, I guess."
 
2013-01-11 05:20:41 PM  
I'm just pissed that 'An Unexpected Journey' didn't get a nomination for Best Documentary Feature!
 
2013-01-11 05:27:11 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: paj: Zero Dark Thirty kinda sucked. There, I said it. Not that it was horrible, just that it wasn't good. Shallow performances, stock characters, etc. Politics aside it just wasn't that good a film.

I haven't seen it, but I have noticed that my friends who have are decidedly, "yeah, it was pretty good, I guess."

I'm going to see it tomorrow. I don't know anybody who has seen it. I saw The Hobbit last weekend. Man that was looooooooooong and slooooooooow. A

nd I loved LOTR. But even if it does suck I figure the killing of Bin Laden guarantees no sequels.
 
2013-01-11 05:28:35 PM  
Katherine Bigelow got her token "I'm-A-Woman-Director-Pay-Attention-To-Me" Oscar for that crapfest Hurt Locker. I wouldn't watch anything else she's done if it were a free rental. It's garbage, and she sucks. That's probably why she got "snubbed".
 
2013-01-11 05:33:25 PM  
I just finished watching Argo, Affleck just keeps getting better and better. He did a great job with the suspense ramping up.

ZDT was okay I suppose. Torture torture torture talk talk talk oh shiat wrong guy KABOOM
 
2013-01-11 05:49:52 PM  

gopher321: I remember another line from that film that made me laugh. The main lead actress said something like she was hired by the CIA right out of high school, it was her first job. I think she was saying it to some Chief of Defense guy in a cafeteria...hired right out of high school huh? And your first job was being present in CIA torture sessions in "Black Ops" areas?

Not really - she said she was recruited out of high school in the late 90's. The scene we see with her witnessing the torture is dated 2003. That was her first assignment outside of Langley, not her first assignment in general. She'd been with the CIA for at least four years at that point.
 
2013-01-11 05:52:12 PM  
Phuk Islam.
 
2013-01-11 05:53:56 PM  

stewmadness: Phuk Islam.


phuk ewe tu
 
2013-01-11 05:57:22 PM  

acaciaavenue: Katherine Bigelow got her token "I'm-A-Woman-Director-Pay-Attention-To-Me" Oscar for that crapfest Hurt Locker. I wouldn't watch anything else she's done if it were a free rental. It's garbage, and she sucks. That's probably why she got "snubbed".


If you don't watch "Near Dark", you're really missing out.
 
MFL
2013-01-11 06:06:17 PM  
MFL: Lincoln will win. It should win. DDL was amazing.

That being said we all know what comes after this dog and pony show.....another wave of media sycophants attempting to use Lincoln and Obama in the same sentence as many times as possible.


Slaves2Darkness Yeah I mean it is not like they were both from Illinois, both widely unpopular with southerners, both had an opposition party that considered their election to presidency illegitimate or that both did not have to deal with the raising sentiment of succession from the southern states.

1. Obama is from Hawaii. He was handed a political opportunity in Chicago and took it.
2. Nobody thinks his election is illegitimate other than a few kooks you libs love to prop up 3
3. Nobody is seriously thinking of succession. It's just a stupid protest to make a point.

Exploiting everything and anything for political gain what democrats do. I understand that.... but this is getting really dumb.


A hundred and fifty years later and the southern states are spewing the same shiat all over again.

Really?

There is nothing in common there. Obama is not at war with the south. He's at "war" with everyone outside of his urban "get out the vote" machine.

t2.gstatic.com

Where would you draw the battle lines?
 
2013-01-11 06:08:43 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: acaciaavenue: Katherine Bigelow got her token "I'm-A-Woman-Director-Pay-Attention-To-Me" Oscar for that crapfest Hurt Locker. I wouldn't watch anything else she's done if it were a free rental. It's garbage, and she sucks. That's probably why she got "snubbed".

If you don't watch "Near Dark", you're really missing out.


And Point Break.

And I wouldn't mind being Katheryn Bigelow's gigolo.
 
2013-01-11 06:08:58 PM  

stewmadness: Phuk Islam.


They're not all bad. And as it turns out, we *can* get the bad ones.

Boom, Headshot
 
2013-01-11 06:10:29 PM  

FlashHarry: Brick-House: 0bama wasn't in it!!!

i guess i don't get the 0bama thing. do you use a zero instead of an 'o' because you think the president is an "empty suit?" just curious.


He's a douchebag.There's not much to it.
 
2013-01-11 06:14:47 PM  

MFL: He's at "war" with everyone outside of his urban "get out the vote" machine.


Yeah, it must really suck that cities have such high concentrations of people. Damn that Obama! Derp!
 
2013-01-11 06:23:07 PM  

MFL: . Obama is not at war with the south. He's at "war" with everyone outside of his urban "get out the vote" machine.


Study it out
 
2013-01-11 06:26:49 PM  

MFL: MFL: Obama (...) is at "war" with everyone outside of his urban "get out the vote" machine.


Obama's not at war with anyone (excluding al Qaeda). One of the main gripes that the libbier libs have had with Obama is that he hasn't busted the right wing's balls. Obama is a centrist compromiser. The whole "at war" thing is you, projecting.

Good luck with that.
 
2013-01-11 06:29:10 PM  
Well, Jessica Chastain was nominated for best actress in ZDT and will likely win...so there's that.
 
2013-01-11 07:12:27 PM  
I'm shocked the NY Post published this opinion.
 
2013-01-11 07:30:47 PM  

Pertifly: People keep freaking out about the movies that were nominated for Best Picture but not Best Director. Hint: There are 5 movies up for Best Director, and 10 for best picture. I don't understand how people don't get it.


It's easy. Because movies that get nominated for Best Picture without getting at least nominated for Best Director are pretty much guaranteed to lose. In fact, the last time a movie won Best Picture without getting nominated for Best Director was 1989.

Looking at the Best Director nominees, it looks like the Academy was pretty blatantly trying to guarantee Spielberg won for Lincoln, since Bigelow, Tarantino, and Affleck were considered the most likely people to beat him. The way the nominees are now, Spielberg's only competition is Ang Lee, a first-time director no one has heard of, an Austrian director whose movie no one has seen, and David O. Russell, who is almost universally hated, professionally and personally, by everyone in Hollywood.

Same thing with the Supporting Actor category snubbing Leo DiCaprio and Sam Jackson, making the competition a little easier for Tommy Lee Jones.

Seriously, This year's awards are so bought that the Academy should send the Lincoln producers a receipt.
 
2013-01-11 07:34:43 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: paj: Zero Dark Thirty kinda sucked. There, I said it. Not that it was horrible, just that it wasn't good. Shallow performances, stock characters, etc. Politics aside it just wasn't that good a film.

I haven't seen it, but I have noticed that my friends who have are decidedly, "yeah, it was pretty good, I guess."


It's a very good action thriller, but it works more as a police procedural than any kind of political statement. Basically, pundits have been getting butthurt for more than a year for what boils down to a pretty good detective story.
 
2013-01-11 07:43:21 PM  
Oh, pooh. Directors ALWAYS find some reason why they got "snubbed" if they didn't get a Best Director nod, especially if their picture got a Best Picture nomination. And critics always find some kind of theme or reason why their favorite films or directors got skipped even when it's blatantly untrue. If there was some kind of "anti-American" bias here, then why did Zero Dark Thirty and Argo get the Best Picture nom, and only the DIRECTORS got skipped? Answer: Because it was the directors who weren't perceived to be "best". If it had in fact been an anti-American bias, it would have been the pictures themselves that got dropped. Duh.

A few years back, IIRC, when there was a glut of WWII films, there was the same kind of hysteria over someone or other being "snubbed" because he was too pro-American or too pro-German or whatever (the specifics escape me); a while before that, it was anti-Mexican bias or whatever. The Academy Awards are all backroom politics anyway, and have very little to do with who really made the "better" movie. The Golden Globes are a better sampling of what the public actually liked.
 
2013-01-11 07:51:40 PM  

sigdiamond2000: "Conservative" media before release of Zero Dark Thirty: "We must boycott this love letter to Fartbama to send a mesage to the Hollyweird Homocrats!"

"Conservative" media after release of Zero Dark Thirty: "Why do Hollyweird Homocrats refuse to properly acknowledge the greatness of this film?!?"


When was this latest round of right wing derp unleashed? Because today at work this lady was ranting on about the snub and how it was because they were about Americans beating Muslim. Mind you that about 4 months ago she was screaming about Zero Dark 30 being a propaganda film made so Obama could get reelected, and before that she was screaming about how Affleck was a socialist traitor for his support of teachers. It is amazing how fast these people can change their opinion on something to fit their agenda, even if their new opinion completely contradicts their old one. If you wrote a movie about this, nobody would believe you.
 
2013-01-11 08:16:53 PM  

ongbok: Mind you that about 4 months ago she was screaming about Zero Dark 30 being a propaganda film made so Obama could get reelected


Yeah, I remember those talking points as well. Now it's a great American film about American heroes Americanning some Muslims.

It is amazing how fast these people can change their opinion on something to fit their agenda, even if their new opinion completely contradicts their old one.

Yeah. This.
 
2013-01-11 08:30:02 PM  
Hollywood should go back to making movies where US troops are child-killing, woman-raping, drug-addled hillbilly psychopaths. That or clinically depressed burnouts ready to frag their officers or become presidential assassins. You know, the "golden years".
 
2013-01-11 08:35:30 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: ongbok: Mind you that about 4 months ago she was screaming about Zero Dark 30 being a propaganda film made so Obama could get reelected

Yeah, I remember those talking points as well. Now it's a great American film about American heroes Americanning some Muslims.

It is amazing how fast these people can change their opinion on something to fit their agenda, even if their new opinion completely contradicts their old one.

Yeah. This.


We call this "doublethink" Citizen.
 
2013-01-11 09:54:34 PM  
I know nothing about movies except how to watch them. That being said, isn't this category voted on by other directors? Maybe they just failed to impress their peers with their mad director skills. Or something.
 
2013-01-11 09:55:14 PM  
Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs of New York was awesome.
 
2013-01-11 10:02:14 PM  
Haven't seen the movies yet, so I can't comment... I doubt they're all that great... but let's face it, the competition isn't very good either. Why is ever other movie that comes out some farking comic book shiat? Seriously, when will this genre die? How long did the spaghetti-western era last? Let's hope it ends some time soon, I want to go to a movie some day...
 
2013-01-11 10:16:11 PM  
Jesus, nominated for Best Picture just isn't good enough. What a farking crybaby.

From what I remember hearing, both of these movies are "ok", but nothing to gush about for the next 10 years. Nothing for the record books, in other words.
 
2013-01-11 10:25:29 PM  

BeatrixK: Looking forward to seeing ZDT this weekend.

I LURVE me some Tarantino - but I didn't disagree with his lack of a nod for Director: Django needed about 30 minutes less. Walz was just the sniznit and should walk away with the award - but it would be a serious horse race if the egregious oversights of no Samuel L Jackson and DiCaprio weren't left off. (Walz would still probably have the edge - but it would be close if those two hadn't been completely ignored.)

(Seriously - Leo had to have killed a buttload of Academy member puppies to get the routine snubs he's on the wrong end of!)


This is really tough, because all three of them were fantastic...but I can understand the idea behind not wanting to give more than one supporting actor nom to the same movie. And if we're going on merit, I'd say that Waltz was very slightly better than DiCaprio, who was equally slightly better than Jackson. If it were me, though, I might have given the nomination to DiCaprio just because the guy deserves a freaking Oscar (got robbed for The Aviator in my opinion) and Waltz already has one. Would have been really great to see all three of them up there, though. I also wouldn't have minded Michael Fassbender for Prometheus, but it would have been a long shot.
 
2013-01-11 10:25:42 PM  

Rwa2play: Les Miserables really didn't need to be made...since it had been already done.


Wrong, it needed to be made so I'd know about this beautful singer.
pmcmovieline.files.wordpress.com
Hathaway and Seyfried I knew about, but not her.
 
2013-01-11 10:30:04 PM  

Gyrfalcon: We call this "doublethink" Citizen.


Touché.
 
2013-01-11 10:37:17 PM  

cptrios: BeatrixK: Looking forward to seeing ZDT this weekend.

I LURVE me some Tarantino - but I didn't disagree with his lack of a nod for Director: Django needed about 30 minutes less. Walz was just the sniznit and should walk away with the award - but it would be a serious horse race if the egregious oversights of no Samuel L Jackson and DiCaprio weren't left off. (Walz would still probably have the edge - but it would be close if those two hadn't been completely ignored.)

(Seriously - Leo had to have killed a buttload of Academy member puppies to get the routine snubs he's on the wrong end of!)

This is really tough, because all three of them were fantastic...but I can understand the idea behind not wanting to give more than one supporting actor nom to the same movie. And if we're going on merit, I'd say that Waltz was very slightly better than DiCaprio, who was equally slightly better than Jackson. If it were me, though, I might have given the nomination to DiCaprio just because the guy deserves a freaking Oscar (got robbed for The Aviator in my opinion) and Waltz already has one. Would have been really great to see all three of them up there, though. I also wouldn't have minded Michael Fassbender for Prometheus, but it would have been a long shot.


It's unusual, but movies have had multiple nominees. The first 2 Godfather movies had 3 nominations apiece in the Supporting Actor category.

I was really surprised that DiCaprio got overlooked simply by how big of a risk he took with his performance. That was the kind of role that, if he'd screwed it up, his career could have come to an abrupt halt.

Odds are, he'll end up like Pacino. He'll have about 3 more nominations before he finally wins for a lesser movie.
 
2013-01-11 11:37:16 PM  

Kurmudgeon: Hathaway and Seyfried I knew about, but not her.


Samantha Barks- she came through the world of stage acting. Only one in the cast who had played their movie role on stage, I think. She did Eponine for the 25th Anniversary version too, which is how I learned about her.
 
2013-01-11 11:45:33 PM  

MFL: MFL: Lincoln will win. It should win. DDL was amazing.

That being said we all know what comes after this dog and pony show.....another wave of media sycophants attempting to use Lincoln and Obama in the same sentence as many times as possible.

Slaves2Darkness Yeah I mean it is not like they were both from Illinois, both widely unpopular with southerners, both had an opposition party that considered their election to presidency illegitimate or that both did not have to deal with the raising sentiment of succession from the southern states.

1. Obama is from Hawaii. He was handed a political opportunity in Chicago and took it.
2. Nobody thinks his election is illegitimate other than a few kooks you libs love to prop up 3
3. Nobody is seriously thinking of succession. It's just a stupid protest to make a point.

Exploiting everything and anything for political gain what democrats do. I understand that.... but this is getting really dumb.


A hundred and fifty years later and the southern states are spewing the same shiat all over again.

Really?

There is nothing in common there. Obama is not at war with the south. He's at "war" with everyone outside of his urban "get out the vote" machine.

[t2.gstatic.com image 276x183]

Where would you draw the battle lines?


So he concentrates on the areas with the most voters? My goodness, he is an evil genius.
 
2013-01-12 12:55:19 AM  
FTFA: "Zero Dark Thirty" has come under criticism because it features scenes in which an American interrogator uses so-called "harsh techniques" like waterboarding against an al Qaeda operative. The operative isn't punished for his actions, nor are those actions questioned by his colleagues - so journalists who have spent a decade attacking the War on Terror for its cruel depradations have expressed disgust at Bigelow's handling of what they view as torture.

I'm sorry. Isn't Bigelow's movie supposed to be based on the true story? Haven't we been torturing people during this war on terror? Are we now to the point where "journalists" are deciding on our behalf what we should be seeing in movies?
 
2013-01-12 03:08:08 AM  
Meh, I think the problems with these movies is that they tried to genuinely portray the intricate nature of real historical situations and say something truly meaningful about the nature of life.

In other words, they weren't consciously filling their films with pointless tripe other directors/actors "always wanted to do" for the sole purpose of Oscar bait. It's cool, Les Miserables has them covered on boring, stupid awards show baiting, so they're free to just be good movies instead.
 
2013-01-12 03:50:38 AM  
WHAR nomunashun four EASTWOOD? WHAR?
 
2013-01-12 04:06:51 AM  

bongmiester: kronicfeld: Christolph Waltz is nominated for best supporting actor

and deserves to win


I finally saw Green Hornet last weekend, on late night cable, and Waltz does a good villain in it.

'Who is this Green Hornet? He beheaded a statue? I behead real people all the time!'
 
2013-01-12 04:27:56 AM  

Kurmudgeon: Rwa2play: Les Miserables really didn't need to be made...since it had been already done.

Wrong, it needed to be made so I'd know about this beautful singer.
[pmcmovieline.files.wordpress.com image 630x454]
Hathaway and Seyfried I knew about, but not her.


I remember seeing the show in the theater, many years back, and thought the others mad for ignoring Eponine. She seemed like the hot one. I dunno if it's the same actress as then, probably not, but looks similar.
 
2013-01-12 06:19:15 AM  
Here's a hint, "director": You want to win an Oscar? Make an Oscar-worthy movie and not this shiate.
 
2013-01-12 08:20:16 AM  

gopher321: Oh, and I saw Argo too. Bored me to tears. Important rule in filmaking: if you're setting is in Canada, or you're depicting Canadians, it's gonna be boring.


Heh, heh.
 
2013-01-12 08:34:37 AM  

cptjeff: make me some tea: Correct. I think many people see it as black and white, and it's not. We've tortured people and have gotten some actionable intel from doing so.

But not in this case- the movie is wrong, though not by any deliberate measures on the part of the people who made it. The reason the Senate is investigating is because a lot of this movie was made in close collaboration with CIA sources, and the Senate Intelligence Committee wants to know if the CIA deliberately lied to the producers of this movie to justify their torture program.

Basically, a bunch of senators with bipartisan cred thinks the CIA was deliberately trying to distort the popular perception of the historical record to make themselves and their torture program look good.


Weerll, both Argo and Zero Dark Thirty deliberately change key events to make them more acceptable for mainstream Americans, and justify that by saying well, it's a fictionalized account. Unfortunately a LOT of people will accept them as close enough to the truth and be misinformed despite any disclaimers.
 
2013-01-12 08:41:08 AM  

MFL: MFL: Lincoln will win. It should win. DDL was amazing.

That being said we all know what comes after this dog and pony show.....another wave of media sycophants attempting to use Lincoln and Obama in the same sentence as many times as possible.

Slaves2Darkness Yeah I mean it is not like they were both from Illinois, both widely unpopular with southerners, both had an opposition party that considered their election to presidency illegitimate or that both did not have to deal with the raising sentiment of succession from the southern states.

1. Obama is from Hawaii. He was handed a political opportunity in Chicago and took it.
2. Nobody thinks his election is illegitimate other than a few kooks you libs love to prop up 3
3. Nobody is seriously thinking of succession. It's just a stupid protest to make a point.

Exploiting everything and anything for political gain what democrats do. I understand that.... but this is getting really dumb.


A hundred and fifty years later and the southern states are spewing the same shiat all over again.

Really?

There is nothing in common there. Obama is not at war with the south. He's at "war" with everyone outside of his urban "get out the vote" machine.

Where would you draw the battle lines?


Um, maybe where the majority of you live?
 
2013-01-12 08:49:23 AM  

ReverendJasen: Here's a hint, "director": You want to win an Oscar? Make an Oscar-worthy movie and not this shiate.


You were expecting half-retard, but were met with non-retard.  Then you went full retard.  The Academy half-heartedly beckons.
 
2013-01-12 11:35:02 AM  

make me some tea: AmazinTim: coco ebert: make me some tea

Overall, did you find the movie more right-wing or left-wing in its depiction of torture (it is sad that we even have a divided population on this issue but I digress).

One interesting thing about this movie was that it was entirely morally ambivalent. It had no opinions. It wasn't left or right, right or wrong, it just was.

When the torturing went away, it became operationally more difficult to get information, and the information that ultimately led to UBL's death came from the detainee program.

Yes, IMHO, they did a fine job of making it apolitical. I appreciated that. It leaves the moral judgment up to the viewer. I'm rather confused by people who are trying to turn it into a political football, because it really isn't. This is what happened, this is how it happened, it's up to you to feel bad, good or indifferent about it


They're doing it because it MUST BE! Because it's about such a hot-button issue in this country that it absolutely positively MUST support my side or their side! Otherwise I'd have to actually WATCH IT and form MY OWN opinion and then I'll start WEEPING UNCONTROLLABLY!
 
2013-01-12 11:49:06 AM  
If it were still 5 directors and 5 best pictures, this would have some legs (they've snubbed people in the past VERY effectively), but since it's now more Best Pictures than directors, people literally MUST be "snubbed."

JerkyMeat: Oh yes, subby, because propaganda should always be awarded.


Know how I know you haven't seen either movie?
 
2013-01-12 12:42:00 PM  

jjorsett: Hollywood should go back to making movies where US troops are child-killing, woman-raping, drug-addled hillbilly psychopaths. That or clinically depressed burnouts ready to frag their officers or become presidential assassins. You know, the "golden years".


What?
 
2013-01-12 12:46:42 PM  
I love how:

2 x Best Picture
Best Actress
Best Supporting Actor
2 x Best Writing
Best Original Score
2 x Best Sound Editing
Best Sound Mixing
2 x Best Film Editing

12 nominations between them (including two in the very top category), but they didn't get nominated in one category means the people involved are out to stop any such movies from getting recognition.
 
2013-01-12 02:45:00 PM  
ok, just watched "zero dark thirty". it was alright, but i think movies over 150 minutes should be exclusively focused on italian-american mafia stories, or adaptations of tolkien epics.
 
2013-01-12 04:12:45 PM  
Heh, "act heroically". You tortured countless people and then shot an unarmed, sleeping man and two women. BTW: you also created the Taliban.
 
2013-01-12 04:21:56 PM  

proteus_b: italian-american mafia stories


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And Jewish mafia stories.

katechaplin.files.wordpress.com

And irish American mafia stories.

collider.com

And pornish American stories.

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And anything by Tarantino
 
2013-01-12 04:22:52 PM  

Lord Summerisle: Heh, "act heroically". You tortured countless people and then shot an unarmed, sleeping man and two women. BTW: you also created the Taliban.


You who?
 
2013-01-12 09:24:03 PM  

AlgertMan: At least QT isn't going to get it. The actors save his ego stroke movies.


This.
 
2013-01-13 04:43:43 AM  

gopher321: I saw Zero Dark Thirty and would have been far more impressed if it was a more honest film. Like Osama bin Laden was created and supported by the US in the first place. Kinda takes away from the whole "good vs. evil" bullshiat in that film.

I remember another line from that film that made me laugh. The main lead actress said something like she was hired by the CIA right out of high school, it was her first job. I think she was saying it to some Chief of Defense guy in a cafeteria...hired right out of high school huh? And your first job was being present in CIA torture sessions in "Black Ops" areas?

One hell of a apprenticeship program you're running there, CIA.

Anyways, fark that film.


Well I was 19 and trusted to make the call to drop a fark ton of explosives on insurgents. Also to determine whether or not my team would be in the right to basically murder the hell out of someone for acting fishy based on ROEs. And handling $1 million+ worth of equipment with a lot less supervision than you might think. The military is weird. I assume the CIA isn't that much different.
 
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