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(Talking Points Memo)   Rep. Phil Gingrey (R), an OB/GYN, goes full derp and defends Todd Akin's legitimate rape comments. Folks, this is the modern GOP   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 474
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2013-01-11 02:19:24 PM

Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher: Put another way - a completely stress free woman has intercourse at some random time during her cycle. That exact same woman undergoes some extremely stressful event right before having intercourse at some other random time during her cycle. All things considered, she is more likely to become pregnant in the first scenario than the second.

BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE THE PREGNANCY FROM THE RAPE.

So you point is maybe she get's raped twice once when she is about to ovulate and the some hours later when that ovulation could have been impregnated?

This is hilarious!!!

how could you possibly misconstrue what I said so amusingly?

Answer my question then:

"Women driving makes it impossible for them to get pregnant!" - Is that statement also "partially right" since some women are stressed by driving?

Are you equating the stress of driving with rape? I think it requires a bit more than driving.

Actually many women have panic attacks while driving. So will you answer?


yes, if a woman experiences very high levels of stress from driving, that could impact her ability to get pregnant. High stress jobs too. Death in the family.
However, as a general statement, that is very stupid since most woman are able to operate machinery without getting all a-flutter whereas rape will impart insane amounts of stress on the toughest woman.
 
2013-01-11 02:19:40 PM

pdee: Corvus: pdee: Corvus: pdee: Why are fark libs incapable of reading an article and responding to what it actually says. This whole thread is a circle jerk of glee at what you want to pretend they said.

He said he was partially right about the body makes it hard for a woman to get pregnant from a rape, then his explanation said it has actually no bearing on it whatsoever making Akins 100% wrong.

That's what the article said.

No that not what the article said. He explained that stress can prevent a women from ovulating thus preventing her from becoming pregnant. He failed to mention the stress could also prevent the implantation or in the case of extreme stress cause a miscarriage. I would think rape could cause extreme stress.

So some women are on the birth control. And Birth control makes it harder to get pregnant too. Those women get raped. So that also supports that it's harder to get pregnant from rape too using that logic right?

Rape causes stress. Your statement is nonsense.


Yes but the ovulation is not occurring at the time of rape so the stress has no bearing at all to the pregnancy that would happen from that rape.
 
2013-01-11 02:20:02 PM
Akin said that when being raped women's bodies "shut down" and prevent them from getting pregnant.  The material he got that notion from talks about "spastic tubes."  Akin's statement was not correct, partially or otherwise.
 
2013-01-11 02:20:27 PM

Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: Wow he is stupid.

Phil Gingrey "He is partially right. " Then gives explanation that Akin's is totally wrong.

Wow that's some white knighting.

that's not what happened.

Ok quote where he said there are effects from being rape that make it make it much harder for a woman to get pregnant. Quote what he said that supports that.

"We tell infertile couples all the time that are having trouble conceiving because of the woman not ovulating, 'Just relax. Drink a glass of wine. And don't be so tense and uptight because all that adrenaline can cause you not to ovulate."

educate yourself on the mechanics of impregnation and it'll make sense.

Right OVULATION happens BEFORE the sex. Maybe you should educate youself. That has NO BEARING AT ALL ABOUT IF THE PERSON WAS RAPED OR NOT.

You are aware ovulation happens BEFORE the egg gets impregnated? And before the sex to impregnate?

That supports Akins claim not at all.


You need to educate your self. A women can ovulate AFTER sex and become pregnant.
 
2013-01-11 02:20:41 PM
Thank your for mansplaining this to us, Doctor Phil.
 
2013-01-11 02:20:51 PM

Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher: As the doctor said, if the woman has already ovulated, it has no bearing on the situation. That's why Akin was wrong.

So he is WRONG now? Funny I thought you and Gingrey were saying he was "partially correct". Which is it?

partially right implies partially wrong.

You didn't say "Partially wrong" you said "wrong" JUST LIKE I DID!!!

yes, that was how he's wrong. What Akin said isn't applicable in all cases of rape, in part because if the woman has already ovulated the "horse is out of the barn" as Gingrey said.

So why is it when I said he is wrong, you freak out and say I am wrong but it's ok for you to now say he was wrong?

yes, he was partially wrong. He was also partially right as stress can prevent ovulation. Ovulation occurring after sex can still result in pregnancy.
I haven't freaked out at all. Who's the one posting 3 responses to each post and relying on caps?

You didn't answer my question:

So why is it when I said he is wrong, you freak out and say I am wrong but it's ok for you to now say he was wrong?


STILL HAVEN"T FREAKED OUT CORVUS!1!!!!11!!!

He was wrong. He was also right. Neither 100% incorrect nor 100% correct. Unlike what you said "his explanation said it has actually no bearing on it whatsoever making Akins 100% wrong."
 
2013-01-11 02:21:10 PM

skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher: Put another way - a completely stress free woman has intercourse at some random time during her cycle. That exact same woman undergoes some extremely stressful event right before having intercourse at some other random time during her cycle. All things considered, she is more likely to become pregnant in the first scenario than the second.

BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE THE PREGNANCY FROM THE RAPE.

So you point is maybe she get's raped twice once when she is about to ovulate and the some hours later when that ovulation could have been impregnated?

This is hilarious!!!

how could you possibly misconstrue what I said so amusingly?

Answer my question then:

"Women driving makes it impossible for them to get pregnant!" - Is that statement also "partially right" since some women are stressed by driving?

Are you equating the stress of driving with rape? I think it requires a bit more than driving.

Actually many women have panic attacks while driving. So will you answer?

yes, if a woman experiences very high levels of stress from driving, that could impact her ability to get pregnant. High stress jobs too. Death in the family.
However, as a general statement, that is very stupid since most woman are able to operate machinery without getting all a-flutter whereas rape will impart insane amounts of stress on the toughest woman.


So the you are saying YES - DRIVING A CAR MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ALL WOMAN TO GIVE BIRTH IS A PARTIALLY TRUE STATEMENT.

Wow, it's hilarious he corner you painted yourself in and you keep painting.
 
2013-01-11 02:21:40 PM

pdee: Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: Wow he is stupid.

Phil Gingrey "He is partially right. " Then gives explanation that Akin's is totally wrong.

Wow that's some white knighting.

that's not what happened.

Ok quote where he said there are effects from being rape that make it make it much harder for a woman to get pregnant. Quote what he said that supports that.

"We tell infertile couples all the time that are having trouble conceiving because of the woman not ovulating, 'Just relax. Drink a glass of wine. And don't be so tense and uptight because all that adrenaline can cause you not to ovulate."

educate yourself on the mechanics of impregnation and it'll make sense.

Right OVULATION happens BEFORE the sex. Maybe you should educate youself. That has NO BEARING AT ALL ABOUT IF THE PERSON WAS RAPED OR NOT.

You are aware ovulation happens BEFORE the egg gets impregnated? And before the sex to impregnate?

That supports Akins claim not at all.

You need to educate your self. A women can ovulate AFTER sex and become pregnant.


wait, do you have a vagina? Then you cannot say such things. There are people in this thread who actually believe this.
 
2013-01-11 02:22:16 PM
skullkrusher YES - Driving a car makes it impossible for all women to give birth is a somewhat true statement.


Love this.
 
2013-01-11 02:22:26 PM

Runs_With_Scissors_: serial_crusher: So, when scientists tell us global warming is real we're supposed to believe them because they're scientists,
but when scientists tell us legitimate rape doesn't make you pregnant, we're not supposed to believe them because legitimate rape is just a theory?

Go get some coffee. You're really off your game today.


I figured too many people were inverse-Poes-Lawing me (i.e. misinterpreting my blatant sarcasm for genuine opinion), so I've been trying to make it more blatant, but this is the second time somebody's said that this week, so yeah maybe I should tone it down and let morans be morans.
 
2013-01-11 02:22:31 PM

Satanic_Hamster: FloydA: They really don't know when to quit.

WHY the fark hasn't the GOP sent out a damned memo to all their people? Doesn't have to be wrong, just:
"Don't say the word rape. Stop bringing up Atkin. Don't defend his statements. Don't just bring him up unsolicited."


"the GOP"?
who would that be? The GOP leadership? Um, there isnt one.
The head of the party? talking head and fund raiser.
Boner? like anyone in his party listens to him.
Turtle man? enough said.
and even if the party had a leader, the teahadists who have infiltrated the GOP wont listen to anyone.
 
2013-01-11 02:23:02 PM
Trying to figure out how this ties in with the economy. Boehner said the GOP would focus 100% on jobs and the economy but they keep going back to the same old shiat
 
2013-01-11 02:23:12 PM

Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher: Put another way - a completely stress free woman has intercourse at some random time during her cycle. That exact same woman undergoes some extremely stressful event right before having intercourse at some other random time during her cycle. All things considered, she is more likely to become pregnant in the first scenario than the second.

BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE THE PREGNANCY FROM THE RAPE.

So you point is maybe she get's raped twice once when she is about to ovulate and the some hours later when that ovulation could have been impregnated?

This is hilarious!!!

how could you possibly misconstrue what I said so amusingly?

Answer my question then:

"Women driving makes it impossible for them to get pregnant!" - Is that statement also "partially right" since some women are stressed by driving?

Are you equating the stress of driving with rape? I think it requires a bit more than driving.

Actually many women have panic attacks while driving. So will you answer?

yes, if a woman experiences very high levels of stress from driving, that could impact her ability to get pregnant. High stress jobs too. Death in the family.
However, as a general statement, that is very stupid since most woman are able to operate machinery without getting all a-flutter whereas rape will impart insane amounts of stress on the toughest woman.

So the you are saying YES - DRIVING A CAR MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ALL WOMAN TO GIVE BIRTH IS A PARTIALLY TRUE STATEMENT.

Wow, it's hilarious he corner you painted yourself in and you keep painting.


I give up - your astonishing mix of dishonesty and stupidity make it impossible to continue this any further
 
2013-01-11 02:24:10 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: They also seem to think that a woman would even consider the idea of having sex AFTER she's been raped, as they are using this as a talking point "sperm can live for DAYS....blah de blah blah"


No, you're misstating their point. Their point is not that the rape victim will have sex again in the next few days; their point is that it's just barely possible that a women might be raped at the moment that she would otherwise have been ovulating, and therefore will avoid pregnancy, where a lascivious slut will enjoy being raped, ovulate as scheduled during the act, then become pregnant days later by the rapist's jizz which she stored in her vajayjay for just such a nefarious purpose. Then, of course, she'll cry rape so that the 47% will have to buy Air Jordans some day for her non-rape rape-baby.

I didn't say it was a good point
 
2013-01-11 02:24:42 PM

skullkrusher: You need to educate your self. A women can ovulate AFTER sex and become pregnant.

wait, do you have a vagina? Then you cannot say such things. There are people in this thread who actually believe this.


I missed the part that Gingrey was talking about this. Can you quote that for us? (you know that statement I actually originally made was about what Gingrey SAID).
 
2013-01-11 02:25:07 PM

Corvus: skullkrusher YES - Driving a car makes it impossible for all women to give birth could reduce the likelihood if pregnancy is a somewhat true statement if the woman is sufficiently stressed enough by driving. However, only an absolute idiot would pretend that the stress from driving is anywhere nearly as universal or intense as the stress from rape.


Love this.


I love it too.
 
2013-01-11 02:25:39 PM

PanicMan: All rape isn't "grab a stranger and pull them into a dark alley".


Well, when you're talking to the party of Forcible/legitimate rape versus *dramatic air quote* rape *dramatic air quote* versus spousal rape, all rape is "grab a stranger and pull them into a dark alley and you better have some hemorrhages to prove it".
 
2013-01-11 02:25:45 PM

Corvus: cameroncrazy1984: skullkrusher: Corvus: So if a woman gets raped the ovary goes in a time machine and goes before ovulation and goes back?

no, again, that's what makes Akin partially wrong. That's what Gingrey said. Holy farking shiat.

If you're ovulating at the time of the intercourse, I would think that's too early for you to get pregnant anyway.

And this is the guy telling other people to "educate themselves" about the subject.


Yes you really need to educate yourself before you make more stupid statements.

Sperm ejaculated into a woman's vagina can live in a woman's cervical mucus or upper genital tract for three to five days.
 
2013-01-11 02:26:15 PM

skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher: Put another way - a completely stress free woman has intercourse at some random time during her cycle. That exact same woman undergoes some extremely stressful event right before having intercourse at some other random time during her cycle. All things considered, she is more likely to become pregnant in the first scenario than the second.

BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE THE PREGNANCY FROM THE RAPE.

So you point is maybe she get's raped twice once when she is about to ovulate and the some hours later when that ovulation could have been impregnated?

This is hilarious!!!

how could you possibly misconstrue what I said so amusingly?

Answer my question then:

"Women driving makes it impossible for them to get pregnant!" - Is that statement also "partially right" since some women are stressed by driving?

Are you equating the stress of driving with rape? I think it requires a bit more than driving.

Actually many women have panic attacks while driving. So will you answer?

yes, if a woman experiences very high levels of stress from driving, that could impact her ability to get pregnant. High stress jobs too. Death in the family.
However, as a general statement, that is very stupid since most woman are able to operate machinery without getting all a-flutter whereas rape will impart insane amounts of stress on the toughest woman.

So the you are saying YES - DRIVING A CAR MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ALL WOMAN TO GIVE BIRTH IS A PARTIALLY TRUE STATEMENT.

Wow, it's hilarious he corner you painted yourself in and you keep painting.

I give up - your astonishing mix of dishonesty and stupidity make it impossible to continue this any further


Yes I am so dishonest by asking you question and you finally answering them after dodging so long it shows how inconsistent your views are.
 
2013-01-11 02:26:27 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: amiable: This thread is awesome, if only for skullcrusher's and pdee's hilarious attempts to enlighten us on how the female reproductive system works.

Please, proceed.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

you can tell they do not own the equipment.

They also seem to think that a woman would even consider the idea of having sex AFTER she's been raped, as they are using this as a talking point "sperm can live for DAYS....blah de blah blah"

It's a fun read here at work on a slow friday afternoon.


Own? I willing to bet they've never even seen the equipment.
 
2013-01-11 02:26:45 PM

Corvus: skullkrusher YES - Driving a car makes it impossible for all women to give birth is a somewhat true statement.


Love this.


Wow, SK had another meltdown?
 
2013-01-11 02:27:23 PM
I for one am just loving the new found honesty of the GOP. Let's not mock these people. Let's nourish their honesty and encourage them to continue to make their true feelings known.
 
2013-01-11 02:27:34 PM

djkutch: Lie back and think of the GOP.


DeltaPunch: "That's what he meant when he said legitimate rape versus non-legitimate rape," Gingrey said. "I don't find anything so horrible about that."

Of course you don't, you despicable partisan f*ck-stain.


Can his local medical board take away his Dr.'s license? 'Cause frankly that would be the type of crap that you'd get someone's license suspended in NY.
 
2013-01-11 02:27:37 PM

BMulligan: Satan's Bunny Slippers: They also seem to think that a woman would even consider the idea of having sex AFTER she's been raped, as they are using this as a talking point "sperm can live for DAYS....blah de blah blah"

No, you're misstating their point. Their point is not that the rape victim will have sex again in the next few days; their point is that it's just barely possible that a women might be raped at the moment that she would otherwise have been ovulating, and therefore will avoid pregnancy, where a lascivious slut will enjoy being raped, ovulate as scheduled during the act, then become pregnant days later by the rapist's jizz which she stored in her vajayjay for just such a nefarious purpose. Then, of course, she'll cry rape so that the 47% will have to buy Air Jordans some day for her non-rape rape-baby.

I didn't say it was a good point


kinda cringed a little bit at your foray into humor there, B
 
2013-01-11 02:27:54 PM
Next time my insurance causes me to find yet another ob-gyn, I am going to look at political affiliation. Republicans simply do not do science well.
 
2013-01-11 02:28:07 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: They also seem to think that a woman would even consider the idea of having sex AFTER she's been raped, as they are using this as a talking point "sperm can live for DAYS....blah de blah blah"


Wait, are you saying that a woman might not want to a) expose her partner to STDs she may have just gotten from her rapist, and b) conceive a child of unknown paternity on account of having just been raped?

This thread is crazypants.
 
2013-01-11 02:28:38 PM

pdee: Corvus: cameroncrazy1984: skullkrusher: Corvus: So if a woman gets raped the ovary goes in a time machine and goes before ovulation and goes back?

no, again, that's what makes Akin partially wrong. That's what Gingrey said. Holy farking shiat.

If you're ovulating at the time of the intercourse, I would think that's too early for you to get pregnant anyway.

And this is the guy telling other people to "educate themselves" about the subject.

Yes you really need to educate yourself before you make more stupid statements.

Sperm ejaculated into a woman's vagina can live in a woman's cervical mucus or upper genital tract for three to five days.


Question: how would adrenaline stay in the system to prevent ovulation for 3-5 days?
 
2013-01-11 02:28:40 PM

pdee: Corvus: cameroncrazy1984: skullkrusher: Corvus: So if a woman gets raped the ovary goes in a time machine and goes before ovulation and goes back?

no, again, that's what makes Akin partially wrong. That's what Gingrey said. Holy farking shiat.

If you're ovulating at the time of the intercourse, I would think that's too early for you to get pregnant anyway.

And this is the guy telling other people to "educate themselves" about the subject.

Yes you really need to educate yourself before you make more stupid statements.

Sperm ejaculated into a woman's vagina can live in a woman's cervical mucus or upper genital tract for three to five days.


He clearly does not have a vagina. Let's ask a ladydoctor

www.mayoclinic.com
 
2013-01-11 02:28:42 PM

BMulligan: Satan's Bunny Slippers: They also seem to think that a woman would even consider the idea of having sex AFTER she's been raped, as they are using this as a talking point "sperm can live for DAYS....blah de blah blah"

No, you're misstating their point. Their point is not that the rape victim will have sex again in the next few days; their point is that it's just barely possible that a women might be raped at the moment that she would otherwise have been ovulating, and therefore will avoid pregnancy, where a lascivious slut will enjoy being raped, ovulate as scheduled during the act, then become pregnant days later by the rapist's jizz which she stored in her vajayjay for just such a nefarious purpose. Then, of course, she'll cry rape so that the 47% will have to buy Air Jordans some day for her non-rape rape-baby.

I didn't say it was a good point


Wait....that really IS what they mean, isn't it?

*sigh*

PS

+2 for lascivious and Air Jordans
 
2013-01-11 02:28:54 PM

Corvus: pdee: No that not what the article said. He explained that stress can prevent a women from ovulating thus preventing her from becoming pregnant.

So if a woman gets raped the ovary goes in a time machine and goes before ovulation and goes back?

How much of a factor is it based on the ovulation THAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED hours ago before the rape from 0 = Being no facotor at all. 3- being a partial factor. and 5- being can't get pregnant like Akins said?


Apparently you are much more likely to get pregnant by ovulating after sex than before.

Your fertile period starts about 4-5 days before ovulation, and ends about 24-48 hours after it. This is because sperm can live in your body for approximately 4 to 5 days, and the egg can live for 24 to 48 hours after being released. You are most fertile on the day before and the day of ovulation. Knowing your fertile days can help you increase your chances of getting pregnant, or avoid an unwanted pregnancy. Read Ovulation and Pregnancy and Ovulation and Contraception for more information.
 
2013-01-11 02:28:56 PM

skullkrusher: kinda cringed a little bit at your foray into humor there, B


Good. That will probably prevent you from becoming pregnant.
 
2013-01-11 02:29:44 PM

skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher YES - Driving a car makes it impossible for all women to give birth could reduce the likelihood if pregnancy is a somewhat true statement if the woman is sufficiently stressed enough by driving. However, only an absolute idiot would pretend that the stress from driving is anywhere nearly as universal or intense as the stress from rape.


Love this.

I love it too.


talkingpointsmemo.com


"I've delivered lots of babies, and I know about these things. It is true," Gingrey said, according to the Marietta Daily Journal. "We tell infertile couples all the time that are having trouble conceiving because of the woman not ovulating, 'Just relax. Drink a glass of wine. And don't be so tense and uptight because all that adrenaline can cause you not to ovulate.' So he was partially right wasn't he?"



So being "tense" and "not drinking wine" comparing to rape = OK
But comparing it to driving = absolute idiot

Right?
 
2013-01-11 02:30:25 PM

amiable: Satan's Bunny Slippers: amiable: This thread is awesome, if only for skullcrusher's and pdee's hilarious attempts to enlighten us on how the female reproductive system works.

Please, proceed.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

you can tell they do not own the equipment.

They also seem to think that a woman would even consider the idea of having sex AFTER she's been raped, as they are using this as a talking point "sperm can live for DAYS....blah de blah blah"

It's a fun read here at work on a slow friday afternoon.

Own? I willing to bet they've never even seen the equipment.


Now, now, even they can figure out internet pr0n. Now as for IRL....I may have to agree with you there.
 
2013-01-11 02:30:26 PM

Lionel Mandrake:

"As long as it's inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it."

~Clayton Williams (R - TX) gubernatorial candidate (shockingly, he lost) and John McCain fund raiser


You know who said that first? Friedrich Nietzsche.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amor_fati
 
2013-01-11 02:30:34 PM

pdee: Corvus: pdee: No that not what the article said. He explained that stress can prevent a women from ovulating thus preventing her from becoming pregnant.

So if a woman gets raped the ovary goes in a time machine and goes before ovulation and goes back?

How much of a factor is it based on the ovulation THAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED hours ago before the rape from 0 = Being no facotor at all. 3- being a partial factor. and 5- being can't get pregnant like Akins said?

Apparently you are much more likely to get pregnant by ovulating after sex than before.

Your fertile period starts about 4-5 days before ovulation, and ends about 24-48 hours after it. This is because sperm can live in your body for approximately 4 to 5 days, and the egg can live for 24 to 48 hours after being released. You are most fertile on the day before and the day of ovulation. Knowing your fertile days can help you increase your chances of getting pregnant, or avoid an unwanted pregnancy. Read Ovulation and Pregnancy and Ovulation and Contraception for more information.


So where was this in Gingrey statement? You DO know the original point I was making don't you?
 
2013-01-11 02:31:15 PM
Googling around I find that CHRONIC stress can affect fertility by DELAYING ovulation but I don't see anything else about stress affecting fertility...

...except one study suggesting that ACUTE STRESS may INDUCE OVULATION.

/i don't speak medicalese...
 
2013-01-11 02:31:24 PM

DeaH: Next time my insurance causes me to find yet another ob-gyn, I am going to look at political affiliation. Republicans simply do not do science well.


Yeah, gotta say, I feel sorry for anyone reading this article and going "Oh,  fark, that was my ob-gyn!". Malpractice investigations might be warranted here.
 
2013-01-11 02:31:30 PM

serpent_sky: How is it even possible there are this many idiots, in positions of power, who actively defend and embrace rape?  I really felt like rape was something that nearly everyone in the universe agreed was a terrible thing, and yet, every other day, someone in the Republican party comes out with a new way of saying it's not so bad.  I honestly don't understand how the party has essentially come out in goddamned  favor of rape. Of all the things in the entire universe they could come out in favor of, that's the one they chose?  Carjacking would be more popular.


Rape used to be covered up, much as child abuse. It's embarassing to the families. Good christian families knew this, and kept these things in-house.

The, the feminazis got involved.

Now, we're allowing Suzie to abort Uncle Joe's baby and putting Uncle Joe in jail, and the whole farking world needs to know, apparently.

These fine men are simply trying to get the government out of their lives.
 
2013-01-11 02:31:34 PM

pdee: Apparently you are much more likely to get pregnant by ovulating after sex than before.


So then women don't get pregnant from rape then? We are fine then right?
 
2013-01-11 02:31:49 PM

imontheinternet: Akin said that when being raped women's bodies "shut down" and prevent them from getting pregnant.  The material he got that notion from talks about "spastic tubes."  Akin's statement was not correct, partially or otherwise.


The uterus is not a big truck.  It's a series of spastic tubes.
 
2013-01-11 02:32:34 PM
talkingpointsmemo.com

Is it just me, or does he look a lot like Jeremy Clarkson?

upload.wikimedia.org
/The most legitimate rape IN THE WORLD
 
2013-01-11 02:32:55 PM

pdee: Apparently you are much more likely to get pregnant by ovulating after sex than before.


Answer the question. How would adrenaline stay in the body long enough to prevent ovulation after the rape?
 
2013-01-11 02:33:02 PM

Corvus: skullkrusher: Corvus: skullkrusher YES - Driving a car makes it impossible for all women to give birth could reduce the likelihood if pregnancy is a somewhat true statement if the woman is sufficiently stressed enough by driving. However, only an absolute idiot would pretend that the stress from driving is anywhere nearly as universal or intense as the stress from rape.


Love this.

I love it too.

[talkingpointsmemo.com image 652x360]


"I've delivered lots of babies, and I know about these things. It is true," Gingrey said, according to the Marietta Daily Journal. "We tell infertile couples all the time that are having trouble conceiving because of the woman not ovulating, 'Just relax. Drink a glass of wine. And don't be so tense and uptight because all that adrenaline can cause you not to ovulate.' So he was partially right wasn't he?"


So being "tense" and "not drinking wine" comparing to rape = OK
But comparing it to driving = absolute idiot

Right?


only an idiot would compare the stress of trying to have a baby to driving.
 
2013-01-11 02:33:09 PM

pdee: Corvus: cameroncrazy1984: skullkrusher: Corvus: So if a woman gets raped the ovary goes in a time machine and goes before ovulation and goes back?

no, again, that's what makes Akin partially wrong. That's what Gingrey said. Holy farking shiat.

If you're ovulating at the time of the intercourse, I would think that's too early for you to get pregnant anyway.

And this is the guy telling other people to "educate themselves" about the subject.

Yes you really need to educate yourself before you make more stupid statements.

Sperm ejaculated into a woman's vagina can live in a woman's cervical mucus or upper genital tract for three to five days.


This doesn't really make one less likely to get pregnant from rape.
 
2013-01-11 02:33:54 PM

someonelse: Satan's Bunny Slippers: They also seem to think that a woman would even consider the idea of having sex AFTER she's been raped, as they are using this as a talking point "sperm can live for DAYS....blah de blah blah"

Wait, are you saying that a woman might not want to a) expose her partner to STDs she may have just gotten from her rapist, and b) conceive a child of unknown paternity on account of having just been raped?

This thread is crazypants.


Apparently she needs the anchor rape baby to get her 0bamaphone and more welfare handouts
 
2013-01-11 02:34:01 PM

Satanic_Hamster: FloydA: They really don't know when to quit.

WHY the fark hasn't the GOP sent out a damned memo to all their people? Doesn't have to be wrong, just:
"Don't say the word rape. Stop bringing up Atkin. Don't defend his statements. Don't just bring him up unsolicited."


Remember, these are the same people that swore up and down that Romney's wasn't just gonna win, he'd win in a landslide. Only to see reality smack them in the face with a spiked baseball bat.
 
2013-01-11 02:34:11 PM
monkeysgonetoheaven.com

Hello, you've reached the Fark gynecology department. What can we help you with today?
 
2013-01-11 02:34:36 PM
When the bottom of a thread is all Corvus and skullkrusher, it's time to moooove along.
Nothing to see here.
 
2013-01-11 02:35:05 PM

skullkrusher:

only an idiot would compare the stress of trying to have a baby to driving.


Have you considered opening a fertility clinic? Think of how many couples you could help with your folksy wisdom.
 
2013-01-11 02:35:39 PM

skullkrusher: However, only an absolute idiot would pretend that the stress from driving is anywhere nearly as universal or intense as the stress from rape.


Or how about if you compared with not being relaxed? You know like the guy you are defending?

talkingpointsmemo.com

"I've delivered lots of babies, and I know about these things. It is true," Gingrey said, according to the Marietta Daily Journal. "We tell infertile couples all the time that are having trouble conceiving because of the woman not ovulating, 'Just relax. Drink a glass of wine. And don't be so tense and uptight because all that adrenaline can cause you not to ovulate.' So he was partially right wasn't he?"


Seems like a double standard.

Besides I am not comparing driving to being raped at all. I am point out how stupid your argument is. I know that's too hard for you to understand that rules should apply consistently not only to people on "your team".
 
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