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2013-01-11 12:13:46 PM
Their IT guy must of quit too because the site is not loading
 
2013-01-11 12:13:47 PM
Another fine example of unions improving the workplace.
 
2013-01-11 12:13:48 PM
Brought to you by the new at&t.
 
2013-01-11 12:14:43 PM
How can it take more than a few hours to process the paperwork for about 50 people to get paid?
 
2013-01-11 12:15:58 PM
HA HA HA..

good job on enforcing the work place rules Union peeps!

you guys are so smart!
 
2013-01-11 12:16:05 PM
Sounds like the position is so overcome with politics and other garbage that the person just up and quit. And everyone else knows it since nobody has applied internally to fill the position.
 
2013-01-11 12:18:02 PM

kvinesknows: HA HA HA..

good job on enforcing the work place rules Union peeps!

you guys are so smart!


You forgot this:

thepoliticalcarnival.net
 
2013-01-11 12:18:16 PM
yay unions! Unions save everyone!
 
2013-01-11 12:19:16 PM
Cernic says the worker quit in November and hasn't been replaced. The county commissioners say the position was advertised internally, but nobody applied for it.

Sounds like this is a crappy job and/or everyone there knows that Cernic is an asshole to work for.
 
2013-01-11 12:19:16 PM
Seizing company assets would get their shiat together in a big hurry. Everybody walking out with a computer or two would get things turned around in a hurry
 
2013-01-11 12:19:51 PM

The Angry Hand of God: How can it take more than a few hours to process the paperwork for about 50 people to get paid?


Bureaucracy.
 
2013-01-11 12:20:26 PM

Seige101: Their IT guy must of quit too because the site is not loading


The way your English teacher must have quit 5 minutes into her first day?
 
2013-01-11 12:21:06 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Seizing company assets would get their shiat together in a big hurry. Everybody walking out with a computer or two would get things turned around in a hurry


I was thinking along the same lines, especially for the tax collectors. Just put a sign up in the office that all tax payments are cash only, and the collectors start taking their cut off the top. They'd have the problem with payroll fixed in hours.
 
2013-01-11 12:21:43 PM

The Angry Hand of God: How can it take more than a few hours to process the paperwork for about 50 people to get paid?


We've got about 80 people on the payroll here.  Just to get to the point where direct deposit is ready and checks (for those not on direct deposit) are printed, 4 hours.  Entire payroll process, 8 hours, but that's if we're rushing it and banging it through (short week due to a Monday holiday, etc).  There's a lot more to it than just writing a check to everyone.
 
2013-01-11 12:21:44 PM
sighhh.... and they keep voting Democrat
 
2013-01-11 12:22:04 PM
THat's some serious incompetence there. A place I used to work at had the pay checks come in from corporate HQ each week. If they were delayed or something, the local HR lady just cut everyone a check from the local division and when the original checks finally came in from HQ we took home the stub and the company voided them. THe point being, there should be other ways to pay employees if the usual method has a problem.
 
2013-01-11 12:22:04 PM
They are trying really, really hard to blame this on unions when it is obvious that their problems come from within.
 
2013-01-11 12:22:11 PM
What is the current rate of unemployment again?
 
2013-01-11 12:22:15 PM

kobrakai: Seige101: Their IT guy must of quit too because the site is not loading

The way your English teacher must have quit 5 minutes into her first day?


Hahahaha!

/former English teacher
//I gave up
 
2013-01-11 12:22:55 PM

oh_please: Cernic says the worker quit in November and hasn't been replaced. The county commissioners say the position was advertised internally, but nobody applied for it.

Sounds like this is a crappy job and/or everyone there knows that Cernic is an asshole to work for.


This. Way to throw in that little blurb crying about unions though, article.
 
2013-01-11 12:23:08 PM

The Angry Hand of God: How can it take more than a few hours to process the paperwork for about 50 people to get paid?


Here's a clue: Cernic says he's already been targeted by a union grievance for having nonunion employees handle some of the work.
 
2013-01-11 12:25:16 PM

Ivo Shandor: The Angry Hand of God: How can it take more than a few hours to process the paperwork for about 50 people to get paid?

Here's a clue: Cernic says he's already been targeted by a union grievance for having nonunion employees handle some of the work.


Er, you're off by a paragraph. Here, let me help: Cernic says the worker quit in November and hasn't been replaced. The county commissioners say the position was advertised internally, but nobody applied for it.

He needs to look into a mirror and seriously ask himself why nobody wants to work with him. And stop crying about teh ebil unions.
 
2013-01-11 12:29:33 PM
ok so after the first month when the job did not get filled internally what about looking to fill it from outside?
 
2013-01-11 12:30:09 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Ivo Shandor:
He needs to look into a mirror and seriously ask himself why nobody wants to work with him. And stop crying about teh ebil unions.


There are probably union rules that say a vacant position has to be internally advertised for 60/90 days before looking for external candidates.
 
2013-01-11 12:30:30 PM

AuralArgument: ok so after the first month when the job did not get filled internally what about looking to fill it from outside?


What and run the risk of hiring somebody with a work ethic?
 
2013-01-11 12:31:00 PM
Oh unions, do you ever wonder why you are so hated these days?
 
2013-01-11 12:31:24 PM
This will no doubt do wonders for employee retention.
 
2013-01-11 12:31:28 PM
I'm mainly surprised that there's still an organization that hasn't just farmed out payroll operations to ADP altogether.
 
2013-01-11 12:32:03 PM
Step 2) Sue employer for theft of services. Argue it is theft of services because slavery is illegal.
Step 3) Collect more than your paycheck.
 
2013-01-11 12:32:41 PM

Seige101: Their IT guy must of quit too because the site is not loading


I snorted
 
2013-01-11 12:32:56 PM

nekom: The Angry Hand of God: How can it take more than a few hours to process the paperwork for about 50 people to get paid?

We've got about 80 people on the payroll here.  Just to get to the point where direct deposit is ready and checks (for those not on direct deposit) are printed, 4 hours.  Entire payroll process, 8 hours, but that's if we're rushing it and banging it through (short week due to a Monday holiday, etc).  There's a lot more to it than just writing a check to everyone.


What else, excepting writing down that you wrote a check to everyone?
 
2013-01-11 12:34:10 PM
Wait till they find out the employee took the payroll with them.
 
2013-01-11 12:35:58 PM

BumpInTheNight: Another fine example of unions improving the workplace.


Like this has nothing to do with poor/bad administration and nobody wants to work for a jerk, and the jerk in question not even bothering to have a Plan-B for this.

Job's been open since November and hasn't been filled. It's an employer's market right now, so filling this shouldn't be a problem. Someone needs a firin'
 
2013-01-11 12:36:06 PM

dj_bigbird: The My Little Pony Killer: Ivo Shandor:
He needs to look into a mirror and seriously ask himself why nobody wants to work with him. And stop crying about teh ebil unions.

There are probably union rules that say a vacant position has to be internally advertised for 60/90 days before looking for external candidates.


He still needs to take a good long look at why nobody would be interested in filling that position under him.
 
2013-01-11 12:38:13 PM
I worked at a gigantic defense contractor once. We had a really bright intern who was promoted from part-time to full-time. Payday comes around and he doesn't get a check. Our manager can't fix it. His boss can't fix it. HR can't fix it. The only person who can cut him a check works three states away, and of course he had just left for a two week vacation. The intern and his wife ate Top Ramen for two weeks because apparently there was nobody in this multinational corporation that could write him a check for the work he had done. I'm surprised he didn't quit on the spot.
 
2013-01-11 12:38:24 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Ivo Shandor: The Angry Hand of God: How can it take more than a few hours to process the paperwork for about 50 people to get paid?

Here's a clue: Cernic says he's already been targeted by a union grievance for having nonunion employees handle some of the work.

Er, you're off by a paragraph. Here, let me help: Cernic says the worker quit in November and hasn't been replaced. The county commissioners say the position was advertised internally, but nobody applied for it.

He needs to look into a mirror and seriously ask himself why nobody wants to work with him. And stop crying about teh ebil unions.


.
Reading, why bother. The complaint was obviously for having a non-union temp process payroll. Fine, nobody gets paid.

Bwahahaha. Asshat union scum gets what asshat human scum deserves.
 
2013-01-11 12:39:01 PM

BumpInTheNight: Another fine example of unions improving the workplace.


Another fine example of blaming the workers instead of the boss.
 
2013-01-11 12:40:32 PM
simple, outsource that shiat.
 
2013-01-11 12:42:24 PM

moothemagiccow: What else, excepting writing down that you wrote a check to everyone?


Federal,state and local tax withholding, court ordered child support withholding, 401(k) contributions, vacation pay deductions, transaction records, and we're not even government, I would suspect they have an extra level of red tape to claw through at government house.  It really isn't as simple as "Just cut them a check"
 
2013-01-11 12:43:22 PM
Just a quick CSB...

After Hurricane Andrew in Miami my company faced the problem of how are we supposed to pay 450 employees when everything was laying in the parking lot 12 stories below. No records, no computers, no electricity?

What we did was the two payroll employees that showed up grabbed a box of checks that would normally go through the pin printer and the three of us started writing. We calculated deductions by hand, signed them, and everyone got paid.

Everyone is so scared to do anything different, or even make a decision.
 
2013-01-11 12:44:28 PM
doesn't have time to cut checks for 26 constables and 27 tax collectors, too...

Somebody's ass has been paying them since the person quit in November. And the people who don't have time need to put in some mandatory overtime.

And to those of you saying 'seize employer assets, etc..', the employer in this instance is the County. Good luck defending seizing government assets. Granted, of all the County's employees, you tend to want to be sure the constables and tax collectors are among the first to be paid.
 
2013-01-11 12:45:35 PM

moothemagiccow: nekom: The Angry Hand of God: How can it take more than a few hours to process the paperwork for about 50 people to get paid?

We've got about 80 people on the payroll here.  Just to get to the point where direct deposit is ready and checks (for those not on direct deposit) are printed, 4 hours.  Entire payroll process, 8 hours, but that's if we're rushing it and banging it through (short week due to a Monday holiday, etc).  There's a lot more to it than just writing a check to everyone.

What else, excepting writing down that you wrote a check to everyone?


Post FICA deductions and transfer that to the US gov, Post federal withholding and get that sent off. Post state and other local withholdings and get that sent off. Track deductions for pensions, insurance, other benefits. Get 401k (or other) deductions handled and sent off. Get accounting for the various departments handled, update those accounts. Audit the results - you don't just scribble out checks and move on.

/Not a small business owner - this is just the stuff I can figure out from looking at my own paycheck
 
2013-01-11 12:45:45 PM

Turbo Cojones: Just a quick CSB...

After Hurricane Andrew in Miami my company faced the problem of how are we supposed to pay 450 employees when everything was laying in the parking lot 12 stories below. No records, no computers, no electricity?

What we did was the two payroll employees that showed up grabbed a box of checks that would normally go through the pin printer and the three of us started writing. We calculated deductions by hand, signed them, and everyone got paid.

Everyone is so scared to do anything different, or even make a decision.



and I'm guessing you were not in a union shop.
 
2013-01-11 12:46:07 PM

moothemagiccow: nekom: The Angry Hand of God: How can it take more than a few hours to process the paperwork for about 50 people to get paid?

We've got about 80 people on the payroll here.  Just to get to the point where direct deposit is ready and checks (for those not on direct deposit) are printed, 4 hours.  Entire payroll process, 8 hours, but that's if we're rushing it and banging it through (short week due to a Monday holiday, etc).  There's a lot more to it than just writing a check to everyone.

What else, excepting writing down that you wrote a check to everyone?


Federal income tax, state income tax (if applicable), fed payroll tax (paid by employer), social security , medicare, health insurance witholdings, 401k, any other with holdings such as fsa, workers comp insurance, unemployment insurance.

Above is just off the top of my head. each have to be calculated and reported (or recorded). Software helps with most of it.

However, if I worked there I would start with the state L&I office and tap dancing on the unions area mgr desk. (the union to address not getting paid and why they biatching about employer using someone to the work fir everyone to get paid who is willing to do it. It is BS a grievance can get filed over something the law states must be done.)
 
2013-01-11 12:46:56 PM

Turbo Cojones: Just a quick CSB...

After Hurricane Andrew in Miami my company faced the problem of how are we supposed to pay 450 employees when everything was laying in the parking lot 12 stories below. No records, no computers, no electricity?

What we did was the two payroll employees that showed up grabbed a box of checks that would normally go through the pin printer and the three of us started writing. We calculated deductions by hand, signed them, and everyone got paid.

Everyone is so scared to do anything different, or even make a decision.


For real...these FTA people need to step up and get some shiat done. Sitting around and biatching about it helps no one.
 
2013-01-11 12:47:27 PM
Vacant since November? advertise it on the net and in the newspaper not just internally. I suspect the pay for the job sucks when compared to the duties which is why they cannot fill it.
 
2013-01-11 12:47:40 PM

Coelacanth Filet: I worked at a gigantic defense contractor once. We had a really bright intern who was promoted from part-time to full-time. Payday comes around and he doesn't get a check. Our manager can't fix it. His boss can't fix it. HR can't fix it. The only person who can cut him a check works three states away, and of course he had just left for a two week vacation. The intern and his wife ate Top Ramen for two weeks because apparently there was nobody in this multinational corporation that could write him a check for the work he had done. I'm surprised he didn't quit on the spot.


Or filed a state.employment office complaint or sued.
 
2013-01-11 12:48:26 PM

buzzcut73: Smeggy Smurf: Seizing company assets would get their shiat together in a big hurry. Everybody walking out with a computer or two would get things turned around in a hurry

I was thinking along the same lines, especially for the tax collectors. Just put a sign up in the office that all tax payments are cash only, and the collectors start taking their cut off the top. They'd have the problem with payroll fixed in hours.


I worked for about a year delivering pizzas. The owner would regularly want us to stay late w/o pay to clean up or do bookkeeping, anyone who refused or complained got fired. We started delivering pizzas off the books and pocketing the cash. Over the course of the six months we did this the five of us made about $3000 each. Good times.
 
2013-01-11 12:49:48 PM

viqas: simple, outsource that shiat.


Unions would never stand for saving the tax payers money
 
2013-01-11 12:53:02 PM
"Constables and tax collectors"? Is this a repeat from, like, the 1800s? Is this county, by any chance, stuck in a timewarp?

(Makes pretend phone handset out of his hand.) "Hello, Edensburg PA? It's 2013 calling, they're not called 'constables' anymore." (Pretends to hang up.)
 
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