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(MSNBC)   Congressman Charlie Rangel says the lack of diversity in Obama's White House is "as embarassing as hell". In response, the White House points out they do have one black guy in a kinda important position   (tv.msnbc.com) divider line 118
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2013-01-11 11:51:09 AM
You know, I'm all for government "looking like America," but there always a chance of over- or underrepresentation.  Looking back over the past four years, I think what's "embarrassing than hell" is people trying to paint Obama as some kind diversity-opposer.  Everyone knows it's a crock.
 
2013-01-11 11:55:57 AM
You know, there are only so many positions in the cabinet.  And maybe we should look at the totality of Obama's inclusiveness over his time in office instead of pissing and moaning and asking "What have you done for me lately, Obama?".
 
2013-01-11 11:59:56 AM

Diogenes: You know, there are only so many positions in the cabinet.  And maybe we should look at the totality of Obama's inclusiveness over his time in office instead of pissing and moaning and asking "What have you done for me lately, Obama?".


You need some type of Pantone colour scale average.  For gender representation, some type of clitoral/penal length averaging.
 
2013-01-11 12:03:41 PM
I, personally, will not be satisfied until the Cabinet has it's first Lesbian left-handed midget albino eskimo appointee.
 
2013-01-11 12:05:47 PM
The notion of diversity in this country has become little more than a political tool. It's simply bargaining chip that can be trotted out to appease, strong arm, or divert attention to the "proper" channel, depending upon the situation. What diversity is not, I've come to realize, is an organically developed realization and application of letting people merely "be". The idea of diversity as a strength breaks down when politics realizes the advantage of grabbing hold of this concept like a leech and begins using it to its advantage. No amount of politically induced racial quotas, grandstanding, and inquisitions will ever allow for flourish of true diversity, one in which the dividing lines between individuals (be it race, gender, sexual orientation, creed etc...) is not a factor. In fact, those political leeches have it in their best interest to keep the question about diversity convoluted and divisive as possible, because its become one of their most effective tools.

And that's my rant.
 
2013-01-11 12:08:09 PM
and if they hired people based on race, they'd get shiat for that too.
 
2013-01-11 12:11:55 PM
So thus far Obama has appointed four white guys... but he also has 3 holdovers from his last cabinet: Sebelious, Holder and Shinseki. So his cabinet current make up is about 60% white guys, and 15 percent for blacks, asians and women. So blacks and asians are slightly over represented as a percentage of the population.

But if we were to count Obama as a member of his own team... Then blacks are about 25%. That's a gross over representation of blacks and a likely first step towards the eventual enslavement of white people.
 
2013-01-11 12:14:35 PM
It's nice to see that media and the party of white, male privilege are so concerned for the broads.  Very white (male) knighty of them.
 
2013-01-11 12:16:23 PM
I certainly don't want Obama to nominate an old, old wooden ship.
 
2013-01-11 12:19:30 PM

Lionel Mandrake: white, male privilege


scumorama.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-11 12:20:14 PM
Obama has a "diverse cabinet": OMG! Affirmative Action!

Obama has "bunch of whitey" on his cabinet: Whar diversity? Whar?
 
2013-01-11 12:21:33 PM

James!: I certainly don't want Obama to nominate an old, old wooden ship.


I LOLed.
 
2013-01-11 12:29:43 PM
Personally, I think one of the best criteria should be "Is this the best person for the job?" and not "What sex is this person?"

But that's just me.
 
2013-01-11 12:38:27 PM
He's only half black, so his ethnic density is insufficient to raise the average, despite his position.
 
2013-01-11 12:39:32 PM
Whatever happened to "best person for the job"?
 
2013-01-11 12:39:37 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: Obama has a "diverse cabinet": OMG! Affirmative Action!

Obama has "bunch of whitey" on his cabinet: Whar diversity? Whar?


THIS.
 
2013-01-11 12:39:46 PM
I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous.
 
2013-01-11 12:40:13 PM

BunkoSquad: James!: I certainly don't want Obama to nominate an old, old wooden ship.

I LOLed.


Okay, help my flu-ridden ass out; what is this from? It's gonna drive me nuts.
 
2013-01-11 12:41:06 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous.


It's Charlie Rangel.
 
2013-01-11 12:41:17 PM
Real diversity is based on economic background, not color. Rich white vs poor white is a much greater difference than rich black vs rich whtie.
 
2013-01-11 12:41:28 PM
I should think that such things are tracked term to term. Yet some quick googling doesn't return graphs showing racial / religious / ethnic proportions over multiple administrations... Hmm...
 
2013-01-11 12:42:01 PM
Everybody knows the token black guy in movies always dies. Bad move Fartbongo. You need another brother to break the trope.

/has to think of everything
 
2013-01-11 12:42:08 PM
President isn't an important position.
 
2013-01-11 12:42:13 PM

James!: A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous.

It's Charlie Rangel.


Charlie Rangel is pretty ridiculous on his own, but I was actually referring to the thread.
 
2013-01-11 12:42:26 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous.


It's like someone with their house on fire biatching that their neighbor left the stove on.
 
2013-01-11 12:42:46 PM
scottystarnes.files.wordpress.com

Miss me yet?
 
2013-01-11 12:43:17 PM
A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous. I don't know who Charlie Rangel is so I'm just going to phone in some comment about a group of people I don't like
 
2013-01-11 12:43:21 PM
Just need the NAACP to get him a few binders. Remember the fall of 2012? What halcyon days those were
 
2013-01-11 12:43:24 PM
In response, the White House points out they do have one black guy in a kinda important position

Who's that, Eric Holder?
 
2013-01-11 12:43:51 PM
Has everyone forgotten that Obama's original choice for Sec of State was a Black woman?
 
2013-01-11 12:44:13 PM

Frank N Stein: A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous. I don't know who Charlie Rangel is so I'm just going to phone in some comment about a group of people I don't like


I was referring to you in particular. Cheers!
 
2013-01-11 12:44:43 PM
You continue to suck, Rangel
 
2013-01-11 12:45:24 PM
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No comment.
 
2013-01-11 12:45:35 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous.


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2013-01-11 12:45:57 PM
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He then added, "And trust me, I know a lot about embarrassments."
 
2013-01-11 12:45:57 PM

mrshowrules: Diogenes: You know, there are only so many positions in the cabinet.  And maybe we should look at the totality of Obama's inclusiveness over his time in office instead of pissing and moaning and asking "What have you done for me lately, Obama?".

You need some type of Pantone colour scale average.  For gender representation, some type of clitoral/penal length averaging.


So if Obama replaces Eric Holder with a woman, then to keep the same ratio, he would need to replace Sebelius with 1 and a half white guys or 2 Asians?
 
2013-01-11 12:46:09 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous.


Mike Huckabee and the rest of the goblins at Fox News are very concerned about Obama's lack of diversity. Is this what we voted for ladies?

And did you notice how few Muslims 0bama has appointed to his cabinet? Why is he forcing radical Christianity onto a country that wants diversity? Concerned patriots would like to know.
 
2013-01-11 12:46:20 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Personally, I think one of the best criteria should be "Is this the best person for the job?" and not "What sex is this person?"

But that's just me.


Strangely adding some diversity even when white males are all the best qualified actually does good things, especially when you are leading the world. Having a diversity of opinions around you tends to cause your groups decisions to be less predictable and removes some of the age old dogmas about the right way to do things, and overall generally leads to more creative solutions to the problem, especially when the solution has an impact on the world of non white males.

I still think Rangel needs to STFU though.
 
2013-01-11 12:46:41 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Frank N Stein: A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous. I don't know who Charlie Rangel is so I'm just going to phone in some comment about a group of people I don't like

I was referring to you in particular. Cheers!


Fair enough. To be clear, what specific problem do you have with my complaint that diversity issues are heavily politicized?
 
2013-01-11 12:46:47 PM

actualhuman: BunkoSquad: James!: I certainly don't want Obama to nominate an old, old wooden ship.

I LOLed.

Okay, help my flu-ridden ass out; what is this from? It's gonna drive me nuts.


I'm Ron Burgandy?
 
2013-01-11 12:46:51 PM
You should be allowed to count first family.
 
2013-01-11 12:46:52 PM
There are quite a few hand-wringing articles out there about Obama and his recent spate of appointing "White Dudes". Buried in all those articles are clips like this one, from Slate:

"Rice and Clinton are just a couple of the powerful women who have been in the Obama orbit. There's also Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius, Homeland Security Director Janet Napolitano, outgoing Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis, and outgoing EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson. The president's top lawyer and top domestic policy advisers are also women. Obama named two women to the Supreme Court, one of whom was his former solicitor general in the Justice Department-a branch headed by an African-American man-and the other who was the first Hispanic woman named to the court. The Supreme Court arguably plays a more lasting role in determining gender and ethnic fairness in American society than any Cabinet post.

The Obama staff directory is a binder full of women. The White House itself employs more women than men.* As the New York Times notes, about 43 percent of Obama's appointees have been women, about the same proportion as in the Clinton administration, but up from the roughly one-third appointed by George W. Bush.

In the end, the only thing that has really changed so far from Obama's first term is that the president intends to replace Hillary Clinton with a man."

Sure, the last few have been white dudes, but thats mainly because Obama decided it was better to try to target the last demographic he hasn't already gotten, wealthy, moderate white dudes. He's paring off the remaining handful of centrist Republicans, ensuring the Dems have every demographic not completely insane in their fold.

Long game, not lack of diversity...
 
2013-01-11 12:46:56 PM

AcneVulgaris: He's only half black, so his ethnic density is insufficient to raise the average, despite his position.



Link
 
2013-01-11 12:48:37 PM
There are reasons to oppose all of Obama's cabinet appointments from the left, some better than others. John Kerry frees up a senate seat in a state where Republicans have a strong candidate, although it's also a very blue state. Jack Lew is a bankster puppet. John Brennan has an awful civil liberties record. Chuck Hagel's a Republican and a latecomer to doveishness - his vote for the Iraq War showed poor judgment.

Instead these idiots are making it about identity politics. As though the problem with Lew and Brennan are that they're white, not the policies they'll support.
 
2013-01-11 12:49:05 PM
www.mainjustice.com

He was great on "Barney Miller."
 
2013-01-11 12:51:28 PM

Nabb1: I, personally, will not be satisfied until the Cabinet has it's first Lesbian left-handed midget albino eskimo appointee.


Only if she's also pregnant as a surrogate for an interracial gay couple, at least one member of which must be autistic.
 
2013-01-11 12:52:57 PM

Frank N Stein: The notion of diversity in this country has become little more than a political tool. It's simply bargaining chip that can be trotted out to appease, strong arm, or divert attention to the "proper" channel, depending upon the situation. What diversity is not, I've come to realize, is an organically developed realization and application of letting people merely "be". The idea of diversity as a strength breaks down when politics realizes the advantage of grabbing hold of this concept like a leech and begins using it to its advantage. No amount of politically induced racial quotas, grandstanding, and inquisitions will ever allow for flourish of true diversity, one in which the dividing lines between individuals (be it race, gender, sexual orientation, creed etc...) is not a factor. In fact, those political leeches have it in their best interest to keep the question about diversity convoluted and divisive as possible, because its become one of their most effective tools.

And that's my rant.


You're putting way too much into this. The proper translation of Rangel's comments is "I haven't been nominated for a cabinet position. Waah!"
 
2013-01-11 12:54:04 PM

Lionel Mandrake: You know, I'm all for government "looking like America," but there always a chance of over- or underrepresentation.  Looking back over the past four years, I think what's "embarrassing than hell" is people trying to paint Obama as some kind diversity-opposer.  Everyone knows it's a crock.


I concur 100%
 
2013-01-11 12:54:22 PM

HighOnCraic: [www.mainjustice.com image 300x414]

He was great on "Barney Miller."


Even better on Firefly
 
2013-01-11 12:54:40 PM
It's also embarrassing as hell that Congress hasn't expelled Charlie Rangel, and that his district keeps electing him.
 
2013-01-11 12:54:44 PM

Frank N Stein: Lionel Mandrake: white, male privilege


I had no idea Hothead Paisan was a real person.
 
2013-01-11 12:55:21 PM
Van Jones, Shirley Sherrod, and Susan Rice agree. But, that's Obama's fault entirely, right?
 
2013-01-11 12:55:37 PM
So is the lack of diversity in Congress. Maybe he should focus on his own before he starts criticizing others
 
2013-01-11 12:57:42 PM

Frank N Stein: A Dark Evil Omen: Frank N Stein: A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous. I don't know who Charlie Rangel is so I'm just going to phone in some comment about a group of people I don't like

I was referring to you in particular. Cheers!

Fair enough. To be clear, what specific problem do you have with my complaint that diversity issues are heavily politicized?


Because it's bullshiat? It's an issue because the far right makes it an issue. As noted, it is useful and important to have people around with a variety of viewpoints and backgrounds when you're making decisions that affect people with a variety of viewpoints and backgrounds. Rangel's whining because he doesn't get to be the Secretary of Slum Lords notwithstanding, it is specifically the far right who insist on a narrow definition of "best qualified" that just happens to always be rich, straight white males.
 
2013-01-11 12:57:45 PM

Nabb1: I, personally, will not be satisfied until the Cabinet has it's first Lesbian left-handed midget albino eskimo appointee.


Sarah Jane? Be careful. She bites, and lowers children into open man-holes.
 
2013-01-11 12:59:27 PM
rack.3.mshcdn.com
 
2013-01-11 12:59:40 PM

birdboy2000: There are reasons to oppose all of Obama's cabinet appointments from the left, some better than others. John Kerry frees up a senate seat in a state where Republicans have a strong candidate, although it's also a very blue state. Jack Lew is a bankster puppet. John Brennan has an awful civil liberties record. Chuck Hagel's a Republican and a latecomer to doveishness - his vote for the Iraq War showed poor judgment.

Instead these idiots are making it about identity politics. As though the problem with Lew and Brennan are that they're white, not the policies they'll support.


I wouldn't appoint Lew and Brennan for dog catcher, let alone cabinet. Lew in particular is a choice calculated to deepen the phony debt crisis we're in.
 
2013-01-11 12:59:46 PM

Nabb1: I, personally, will not be satisfied until the Cabinet has it's first Lesbian left-handed midget albino eskimo appointee.


Funny you should mention that. I was just giving a speech to the Committee to Avdance Lesbian left-handed midget albino eskimos, It was a banner year at CALLHMAE. Maybe.
 
2013-01-11 01:01:16 PM

Boxcutta: Nabb1: I, personally, will not be satisfied until the Cabinet has it's first Lesbian left-handed midget albino eskimo appointee.

Funny you should mention that. I was just giving a speech to the Committee to Avdance Lesbian left-handed midget albino eskimos, It was a banner year at CALLHMAE. Maybe.


Screw that group. Transexual nazi eskimos have been in line longer. Don't discriminate.
 
2013-01-11 01:03:35 PM

Bonzo_1116: Frank N Stein: Lionel Mandrake: white, male privilege

I had no idea Hothead Paisan was a real person.


I had no idea Hothead Paisan was a fake person.
 
2013-01-11 01:04:01 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Lew in particular is a choice calculated to deepen the phony debt crisis we're in.


How so? I'll be the first to admit I have no idea who Jack Lew is.
 
2013-01-11 01:05:03 PM
Diversity? !?! Cripes, with this dingbat in office, we should be happy if they legally paid thier taxes.
 
2013-01-11 01:05:39 PM

Lionel Mandrake: It's nice to see that media and the party of white, male privilege are so concerned for the broads.  Very white (male) knighty of them.


Charlie Rangel - really tanned Republican.
 
2013-01-11 01:05:41 PM
I voted for a candidate once because his opponent was a boring, white, uninspiring washington insider and he was a bilingual, diversity advocating, washington "outsider" with big ideas and a commitment to bringing in people of all backgrounds to the table.

That candidate was President Bush. He did alot of things, and bringing diversity to the cabinet level was one of them. He also found all the cockroaches left from Nixon's White House and listened to them much more than the token melanin-rich appointees, and ended up disgracing all of them and our nation and chasing me out of the Republican party.

I won't be allowing diversity to motivate my voting ever again. I want the best person for the job, and I want people committed to leveling the playing field, but lip service to diversity is no indicator of a candidate's merit...
 
2013-01-11 01:07:38 PM

qorkfiend: A Dark Evil Omen: Lew in particular is a choice calculated to deepen the phony debt crisis we're in.

How so? I'll be the first to admit I have no idea who Jack Lew is.


He's had a low-profile but reasonably highly-placed political career in the Democratic party. Mainly he's a big fan of bank deregulation and so naturally he's being made Secretary of the Treasury.
 
2013-01-11 01:12:19 PM

Diogenes: You know, there are only so many positions in the cabinet.  And maybe we should look at the totality of Obama's inclusiveness over his time in office instead of pissing and moaning and asking "What have you done for me lately, Obama?".


Exactly. One of the first things he did was nominate the first latina to the Supreme Court. That's pretty badass.
 
2013-01-11 01:13:21 PM
Yeah, I saw a response from them on this and it basically boiled down to "we aren't going to use affirmative action to fill positions, we fill them based on who is qualified." Sort of ironic, dontcha think?

/lots of spoons
 
2013-01-11 01:13:26 PM
Charlie Rangel, you are embarrassing as hell.
 
2013-01-11 01:15:20 PM
You know, when I hear complaints about how the Congress has a bunch of old WASPy guys (yes I realize this is about the cabinet), I have to ask, is the district they are representing have a majority that is black/Hispanic/atheist/Muslim/Jewish/etc/.

Yes, I realize districts that are largely Latino or African American have old white guys representing them, but since Congress is elected more or less locally and not nationally, this isn't actually unexpected.

//It'd be nice if we had more openly secular and non-religious legislators though, rather than them having to pay lip service towards "being a good Christian"
 
2013-01-11 01:15:28 PM
Charlie's continuous reelection is an embarrassment since the only thing he needs to hold is seat is to keep his skin color. He would lose in a landslide if he went for any other elected position without his automatic-vote base in the 13th district. Guy should be in jail in the first place, considering all the shiat he has pulled (hiding from income tax, apartment scams, fundraising issues, "gifts" of vacations, etc) .

Gee, chuck, i cant imagine why the president might not want someone like you in his cabinet.
 
2013-01-11 01:16:27 PM

mrshowrules: Diogenes: You know, there are only so many positions in the cabinet.  And maybe we should look at the totality of Obama's inclusiveness over his time in office instead of pissing and moaning and asking "What have you done for me lately, Obama?".

You need some type of Pantone colour scale average.  For gender representation, some type of clitoral/penal length averaging.


Republican penis length will skew this dramatically toward the female side of things. That's why they hate so much that there is a black Democrat in the white house. It's the only thing Republicans really care about.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-11 01:16:32 PM

bhcompy: [scottystarnes.files.wordpress.com image 338x263]

scottystarnes.files.wordpress.com

Miss me yet?


25.media.tumblr.com

Hell yeah. The god damned shoes don't buy themselves.
 
2013-01-11 01:17:46 PM
what? why are we cursing hell with these characters. outer darkness doesn't need souls THAT BLACK.
 
2013-01-11 01:21:18 PM
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lol diversity.
 
2013-01-11 01:22:19 PM

lennavan: Charlie Rangel, you are embarrassing as hell.


I doubt Lucifer is twisted enough to come up with anything worse than Rangel.

It's a damned shame he's a Prince Hall Mason.
 
2013-01-11 01:22:28 PM
Is there a double standard on Fark for Republican and Democrat presidents? Based on this thread I would say yes.
 
2013-01-11 01:26:26 PM
Ok, Charlie, so have you approached anyone in the administration about your concerns? How about recommending some people you think would be a good fit?

No? Okay then. goodbye.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-11 01:32:25 PM

Vectron: Is there a double standard on Fark for Republican and Democrat[ic] presidents? Based on this thread I would say yes.


cdn.styleforum.net

Seriously? The whole of ethics right now (regardless of "side") is "if my guys does it then it's okay."
 
2013-01-11 01:35:21 PM

PanicMan: Ok, Charlie, so have you approached anyone in the administration about your concerns? How about recommending some people you think would be a good fit?

No? Okay then. goodbye.


Let us never suggest anyone ever listen to Charlie Rangel on anything other than how to be awesome at being corrupt and still keep your job.
 
2013-01-11 01:36:25 PM
Yes. And that one guy isn't even black. He's half black.
Yes indeedy, the president is mulatto.
 
2013-01-11 01:37:54 PM

Frank N Stein: The notion of diversity in this country has become little more than a political tool. It's simply bargaining chip that can be trotted out to appease, strong arm, or divert attention to the "proper" channel, depending upon the situation. What diversity is not, I've come to realize, is an organically developed realization and application of letting people merely "be". The idea of diversity as a strength breaks down when politics realizes the advantage of grabbing hold of this concept like a leech and begins using it to its advantage. No amount of politically induced racial quotas, grandstanding, and inquisitions will ever allow for flourish of true diversity, one in which the dividing lines between individuals (be it race, gender, sexual orientation, creed etc...) is not a factor. In fact, those political leeches have it in their best interest to keep the question about diversity convoluted and divisive as possible, because its become one of their most effective tools.

And that's my rant.


*Sigh*

Yeah, that's it. The race-baiters want to keep the status quo so that they can somehow profit off of pointing and saying, "there's no diversity". Instead of asking ourselves what are the barriers that exist which do not allow everyone to be represented, lets attack the people who point it out. There are 312 million people in the United States of America. You mean to tell me that John Kerry is so much more qualified than all of these people that America needs him to be a Senator, a Presidential candidate, and the Secretary of Defense? Why are the same names floated around every time there is an opening in government?
 
2013-01-11 01:38:49 PM

bhcompy: [scottystarnes.files.wordpress.com image 338x263]

Miss me yet?


Yeah, but next time I'm going to use an AR-15 with a 120 round drum and that bump firing upgrade. Shooting at that pitch with 9's just doesn't seem to cut it.
 
2013-01-11 01:40:50 PM

Boxcutta: Nabb1: I, personally, will not be satisfied until the Cabinet has it's first Lesbian left-handed midget albino eskimo appointee.

Funny you should mention that. I was just giving a speech to the Committee to Avdance Lesbian left-handed midget albino eskimos, It was a banner year at CALLHMAE. Maybe.


Wow, that's really interesting. This is crazy, I usually don't do this with organizations I just heard of, but I could give you my number for some more info?
 
2013-01-11 01:41:42 PM

Diogenes: You know, there are only so many positions in the cabinet.  And maybe we should look at the totality of Obama's inclusiveness over his time in office instead of pissing and moaning and asking "What have you done for me lately, Obama?".


That was brought up over the GOP concern trolling over the lack of women nominations for the open cabinet positions. Namely, say, the Supreme Court nominations he's made.
 
2013-01-11 01:44:22 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Frank N Stein: The notion of diversity in this country has become little more than a political tool. It's simply bargaining chip that can be trotted out to appease, strong arm, or divert attention to the "proper" channel, depending upon the situation. What diversity is not, I've come to realize, is an organically developed realization and application of letting people merely "be". The idea of diversity as a strength breaks down when politics realizes the advantage of grabbing hold of this concept like a leech and begins using it to its advantage. No amount of politically induced racial quotas, grandstanding, and inquisitions will ever allow for flourish of true diversity, one in which the dividing lines between individuals (be it race, gender, sexual orientation, creed etc...) is not a factor. In fact, those political leeches have it in their best interest to keep the question about diversity convoluted and divisive as possible, because its become one of their most effective tools.

And that's my rant.

*Sigh*

Yeah, that's it. The race-baiters want to keep the status quo so that they can somehow profit off of pointing and saying, "there's no diversity". Instead of asking ourselves what are the barriers that exist which do not allow everyone to be represented, lets attack the people who point it out. There are 312 million people in the United States of America. You mean to tell me that John Kerry is so much more qualified than all of these people that America needs him to be a Senator, a Presidential candidate, and the Secretary of Defense? Why are the same names floated around every time there is an opening in government?


I have no idea, beyond Kerry having the network and connections to get things accomplished because of all his years in government.

There should be someone within the DoD that is qualified though, shouldn't there?
 
2013-01-11 01:45:03 PM

skullkrusher: Lionel Mandrake: It's nice to see that media and the party of white, male privilege are so concerned for the broads.  Very white (male) knighty of them.

Charlie Rangel - really tanned Republican.


I was thinking more of the white males at FOX and in the Republican, but thank you for infroming me that Rangel is black, and the only person talking about this.
 
2013-01-11 01:46:49 PM
Oh yeah, Rangel is a POS who should have never been re-elected. But even a broken clock is right twice a day. With that said, look at how Eric Holder is treated. He's a "gangster". When Republicans speak of he and Obama there is normally a racial element to the discussion. As if the two black guys are conspiring to take over the country. If Obama had more non-whites in his cabinet that nonsense would go to eleven. Being surrounded by white people who share his viewpoint helps President Obama to reject the notion that race is a factor in his decisions. When the President says we need to help the poor, its easy to call him the welfare President. Its harder to do that when Biden says it.
 
2013-01-11 01:49:11 PM

Nabb1: I, personally, will not be satisfied until the Cabinet has it's first Lesbian left-handed midget albino eskimo appointee.


Does she have to be wheelchair-bound, or is that optional?
 
2013-01-11 01:54:01 PM

Diogenes: You know, there are only so many positions in the cabinet.  And maybe we should look at the totality of Obama's inclusiveness over his time in office instead of pissing and moaning and asking "What have you done for me lately, Obamaooooooooh, yeah?".


FTFY
 
2013-01-11 01:54:14 PM

Nabb1: I, personally, will not be satisfied until the Cabinet has it's first Lesbian left-handed midget albino eskimo appointee.


Hmmmm... kinky, I like it

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-11 01:56:13 PM

Boxcutta: Nabb1: I, personally, will not be satisfied until the Cabinet has it's first Lesbian left-handed midget albino eskimo appointee.

Funny you should mention that. I was just giving a speech to the Committee to Avdance Lesbian left-handed midget albino eskimos, It was a banner year at CALLHMAE. Maybe.


Now, if someone hadn't sponsored you yesterday, I would have had to do it because of this post.
 
2013-01-11 01:58:25 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Personally, I think one of the best criteria should be "Is this the best person for the job?" and not "What sex is this person?"

But that's just me.


Spoken unlike any neo liberal.
 
MFL
2013-01-11 02:00:09 PM
qorkfiend: A Dark Evil Omen: Lew in particular is a choice calculated to deepen the phony debt crisis we're in

Jack Lew....

1. He's a lifetime political staffer.
2. He has no real financial experience.
3. He has no international experience.
4. He has no currency experience.
5. He ripped off Citibank for a couple of million dollars and he was only there for one year.
6. He has no standing on Wall Street or any of the world financial capitals.

Geitner I didn't agree with on much but the guy was at least qualified by all accounts.

No budget in 4 years......$16.5 trillion in debt.....75% debt to GDP ratio.....no debt crisis????

No wonder democrats are poor. They are just dumb.
 
2013-01-11 02:04:02 PM

bhcompy: [scottystarnes.files.wordpress.com image 338x263]

Miss me yet?


biatch, please.

media.twirlit.com
 
2013-01-11 02:07:14 PM

MFL: qorkfiend: A Dark Evil Omen: Lew in particular is a choice calculated to deepen the phony debt crisis we're in

Jack Lew....

1. He's a lifetime political staffer.
2. He has no real financial experience.
3. He has no international experience.
4. He has no currency experience.
5. He ripped off Citibank for a couple of million dollars and he was only there for one year.
6. He has no standing on Wall Street or any of the world financial capitals.

Geitner I didn't agree with on much but the guy was at least qualified by all accounts.

No budget in 4 years......$16.5 trillion in debt.....75% debt to GDP ratio.....no debt crisis????

No wonder democrats are poor. They are just dumb.


Fun fact: Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43 never had a budget deficit (according to Republican math)
 
2013-01-11 02:18:56 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND : Oh yeah, Rangel is a POS who should have never been re-elected. But even a broken clock is right twice a day. With that said, look at how Eric Holder is treated. He's a "gangster"

Sheeeeiiiiitttttt. More like "He's an embarrassment". One of the great failures of the Obama administration has been the lack of reining in government corruption. Holder and his "go along to get along" mentality has made him the darling of the Ivy league law schools and was instrumental in smoothing things out with the behind the scenes factions enough to get Obama re-elected. But he is not Obama's private attorney nor is he a private political entity. He is the Attorney General of the United States of America; the nation's top enforcer on the legal side. He has failed miserably at his job, Wall Street will collapse and be looted again and useless wars fought to enrich the military industrial complex will happen again because this sorry bastard didn't do his goddamn job. We needed an untouchable after the Bush administration, what we got with Holder was just another good old boy, looking the other way whenever needed.
 
2013-01-11 02:24:47 PM
New Constitutional Amendment: The president's cabinet of advisors shall not be comprised of more than 3/5ths white men.
 
2013-01-11 02:29:42 PM

Diogenes: You know, there are only so many positions in the cabinet.  And maybe we should look at the totality of Obama's inclusiveness over his time in office instead of pissing and moaning and asking "What have you done for me lately, Obama?".


Here is an idea forget about inclusiveness and just hire the best qualified person, who will take the job, regardless of race, gender etc?

Radical concept I know because it means no longer judging a person by the color of the skin and so on; plus we have to give up set asides and quotas but this America we can do it.
 
2013-01-11 02:33:19 PM

hasty ambush: Diogenes: You know, there are only so many positions in the cabinet.  And maybe we should look at the totality of Obama's inclusiveness over his time in office instead of pissing and moaning and asking "What have you done for me lately, Obama?".

Here is an idea forget about inclusiveness and just hire the best qualified person, who will take the job, regardless of race, gender etc?

Radical concept I know because it means no longer judging a person by the color of the skin and so on; plus we have to give up set asides and quotas but this America we can do it.


Points and laughs at guy who thinks political appointments are a meritocracy.
 
2013-01-11 02:37:26 PM

Frank N Stein: Lionel Mandrake: white, male privilege

[scumorama.files.wordpress.com image 500x375]


That is a very interesting site. Not sure if I can understand it though, and I have a degree in understanding stuff like the Speculum of the Other Woman.
 
2013-01-11 02:43:02 PM

cubic_spleen: mrshowrules: Diogenes: You know, there are only so many positions in the cabinet.  And maybe we should look at the totality of Obama's inclusiveness over his time in office instead of pissing and moaning and asking "What have you done for me lately, Obama?".

You need some type of Pantone colour scale average.  For gender representation, some type of clitoral/penal penile length averaging.

Republican penis length will skew this dramatically toward the female side of things. That's why they hate so much that there is a black Democrat in the white house. It's the only thing Republicans really care about.


Penal = of or relating to criminal punishment
Penile = of or relating to the cawk

"The convicted arsonist spent 20 years of hard time in the California Penile System"
 
2013-01-11 02:54:48 PM
And if anyone knows about being embarassing as hell, it's Rangel. The fact that assholes like him are still reelected to Congress is a sad comment on both voter engagement that a large portion of his constituency either didn't know or didn't care about his corruption and also points to why gerrymandering is such a real concern.

That said, I've noticed something lately with Republicans complaining about this (which led to Rangel's comment). When did Republicans become about identity politics? I remember them complaining about Democrats blatantly pandering to minorities with token measures in the 1980's and 1990's. Now it seems like they spend so much time trying to call attention to a handful of female, hispanic, and black Republicans and scream about how Democrats are waging war against those groups every time they hire a white male.

It's like how the only people who are screaming about political correctness are the conservatives who opposed it, since they get to attack liberals for being hypocrites by using "black" instead of "African-American" in a speech.
 
2013-01-11 02:59:00 PM

HighOnCraic: [www.mainjustice.com image 300x414]

He was great on "Barney Miller."


He doesn't dress as snappily as he once did.
 
2013-01-11 03:18:09 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Frank N Stein: The notion of diversity in this country has become little more than a political tool. It's simply bargaining chip that can be trotted out to appease, strong arm, or divert attention to the "proper" channel, depending upon the situation. What diversity is not, I've come to realize, is an organically developed realization and application of letting people merely "be". The idea of diversity as a strength breaks down when politics realizes the advantage of grabbing hold of this concept like a leech and begins using it to its advantage. No amount of politically induced racial quotas, grandstanding, and inquisitions will ever allow for flourish of true diversity, one in which the dividing lines between individuals (be it race, gender, sexual orientation, creed etc...) is not a factor. In fact, those political leeches have it in their best interest to keep the question about diversity convoluted and divisive as possible, because its become one of their most effective tools.

And that's my rant.

*Sigh*

Yeah, that's it. The race-baiters want to keep the status quo so that they can somehow profit off of pointing and saying, "there's no diversity". Instead of asking ourselves what are the barriers that exist which do not allow everyone to be represented, lets attack the people who point it out. There are 312 million people in the United States of America. You mean to tell me that John Kerry is so much more qualified than all of these people that America needs him to be a Senator, a Presidential candidate, and the Secretary of Defense? Why are the same names floated around every time there is an opening in government?


Plenty of people are more qualified, the question is if they want the position. Bonus points: for all the complaints about Congressional pay, elected office usually pays worse than the private sector for someone with the same background as your average congresscritter. The only tradeoff is power, meaning the more willing you are to abuse said power the bigger the incentive to pursue public office is.
 
2013-01-11 03:26:43 PM
Oh, this is nonsense.

There's plenty of diversity on both sides: radicals, nanny-staters, greens, feminists, anti-semites, appeasers, union toadies and race-card specialists on the left...and theocrats, corporate puppets, gun nuts, homophobes, defense-pork wallowers, anti-abortion zealots, Islamophobes and War on (Some) Drugs fanatics on the right.

In the middle are moderates, who are impure and must be shunned. (The libertarians were pitched over the castle walls ages ago.)
 
2013-01-11 03:43:35 PM

Karac: mrshowrules: Diogenes: You know, there are only so many positions in the cabinet.  And maybe we should look at the totality of Obama's inclusiveness over his time in office instead of pissing and moaning and asking "What have you done for me lately, Obama?".

You need some type of Pantone colour scale average.  For gender representation, some type of clitoral/penal length averaging.

So if Obama replaces Eric Holder with a woman, then to keep the same ratio, he would need to replace Sebelius with 1 and a half white guys or 2 Asians?


Exactly.  I don't make the rules.

/other than that rule I mean
 
2013-01-11 03:46:17 PM

another cultural observer: cubic_spleen: mrshowrules: Diogenes: You know, there are only so many positions in the cabinet.  And maybe we should look at the totality of Obama's inclusiveness over his time in office instead of pissing and moaning and asking "What have you done for me lately, Obama?".

You need some type of Pantone colour scale average.  For gender representation, some type of clitoral/penal penile length averaging.

Republican penis length will skew this dramatically toward the female side of things. That's why they hate so much that there is a black Democrat in the white house. It's the only thing Republicans really care about.

Penal = of or relating to criminal punishment
Penile = of or relating to the cawk

"The convicted arsonist spent 20 years of hard time in the California Penile System"


That was pretty dumb on my part but in this instance my post in general was even dumber.
 
2013-01-11 04:30:07 PM
So force affirmative action on everyone else, but don't implement it yourself? Really Fartbongo? That's how you're doin' us?
 
2013-01-11 04:46:48 PM

Silly Jesus: So force affirmative action on everyone else, but don't implement it yourself? Really Fartbongo? That's how you're doin' us?


Got tires of "James!"?
 
2013-01-11 04:52:14 PM

Lionel Mandrake: You know, I'm all for government "looking like America," but there always a chance of over- or underrepresentation.  Looking back over the past four years, I think what's "embarrassing than hell" is people trying to paint Obama as some kind diversity-opposer.  Everyone knows it's a crock.


Indeed, being open to a candidate entirely because if his/her qualifications and not considering their racial background is awesome.

Bringing in less awesome candidates just to make the administration look more like the bridge of the Enterprise just insults all involved.
 
2013-01-11 04:53:54 PM

The Jami Turman Fan Club: Silly Jesus: So force affirmative action on everyone else, but don't implement it yourself? Really Fartbongo? That's how you're doin' us?

Got tires of "James!"?


He's made of tires?!
 
2013-01-11 05:09:51 PM
The gift of butthurt just keeps on giving...
 
2013-01-11 05:23:12 PM

Heraclitus: The gift of butthurt just keeps on giving...


I bet Charlie is "butthurt" he didn't get any post in the administration
 
2013-01-11 05:43:05 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Frank N Stein: A Dark Evil Omen: Frank N Stein: A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous. I don't know who Charlie Rangel is so I'm just going to phone in some comment about a group of people I don't like

I was referring to you in particular. Cheers!

Fair enough. To be clear, what specific problem do you have with my complaint that diversity issues are heavily politicized?

Because it's bullshiat? It's an issue because the far right makes it an issue. As noted, it is useful and important to have people around with a variety of viewpoints and backgrounds when you're making decisions that affect people with a variety of viewpoints and backgrounds. Rangel's whining because he doesn't get to be the Secretary of Slum Lords notwithstanding, it is specifically the far right who insist on a narrow definition of "best qualified" that just happens to always be rich, straight white males.


As a conservative my preference for Sec of Treasury :

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-11 07:08:10 PM
He's already got a black, a woman, two dips and a cripple. What more do you want?
 
2013-01-11 07:29:25 PM

hasty ambush: A Dark Evil Omen: Frank N Stein: A Dark Evil Omen: Frank N Stein: A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous. I don't know who Charlie Rangel is so I'm just going to phone in some comment about a group of people I don't like

I was referring to you in particular. Cheers!

Fair enough. To be clear, what specific problem do you have with my complaint that diversity issues are heavily politicized?

Because it's bullshiat? It's an issue because the far right makes it an issue. As noted, it is useful and important to have people around with a variety of viewpoints and backgrounds when you're making decisions that affect people with a variety of viewpoints and backgrounds. Rangel's whining because he doesn't get to be the Secretary of Slum Lords notwithstanding, it is specifically the far right who insist on a narrow definition of "best qualified" that just happens to always be rich, straight white males.

As a conservative my preference for Sec of Treasury :

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 250x288]


I hear his wife refers to him as "Mr. Williams".
 
2013-01-11 08:37:28 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Personally, I think one of the best criteria should be "Is this the best person for the job?" and not "What sex is this person?"

But that's just me.


That would be my preference, but everyone knows that that's discriminatory and elitist.
 
2013-01-11 08:43:49 PM

dericwater: HighOnCraic: [www.mainjustice.com image 300x414]

He was great on "Barney Miller."

He doesn't dress as snappily as he once did.


He must've run out of all that money he made from "Blood on the Badge."
 
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