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(MSNBC)   Congressman Charlie Rangel says the lack of diversity in Obama's White House is "as embarassing as hell". In response, the White House points out they do have one black guy in a kinda important position   (tv.msnbc.com) divider line 118
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2013-01-11 11:51:09 AM
You know, I'm all for government "looking like America," but there always a chance of over- or underrepresentation.  Looking back over the past four years, I think what's "embarrassing than hell" is people trying to paint Obama as some kind diversity-opposer.  Everyone knows it's a crock.
 
2013-01-11 11:55:57 AM
You know, there are only so many positions in the cabinet.  And maybe we should look at the totality of Obama's inclusiveness over his time in office instead of pissing and moaning and asking "What have you done for me lately, Obama?".
 
2013-01-11 11:59:56 AM

Diogenes: You know, there are only so many positions in the cabinet.  And maybe we should look at the totality of Obama's inclusiveness over his time in office instead of pissing and moaning and asking "What have you done for me lately, Obama?".


You need some type of Pantone colour scale average.  For gender representation, some type of clitoral/penal length averaging.
 
2013-01-11 12:03:41 PM
I, personally, will not be satisfied until the Cabinet has it's first Lesbian left-handed midget albino eskimo appointee.
 
2013-01-11 12:05:47 PM
The notion of diversity in this country has become little more than a political tool. It's simply bargaining chip that can be trotted out to appease, strong arm, or divert attention to the "proper" channel, depending upon the situation. What diversity is not, I've come to realize, is an organically developed realization and application of letting people merely "be". The idea of diversity as a strength breaks down when politics realizes the advantage of grabbing hold of this concept like a leech and begins using it to its advantage. No amount of politically induced racial quotas, grandstanding, and inquisitions will ever allow for flourish of true diversity, one in which the dividing lines between individuals (be it race, gender, sexual orientation, creed etc...) is not a factor. In fact, those political leeches have it in their best interest to keep the question about diversity convoluted and divisive as possible, because its become one of their most effective tools.

And that's my rant.
 
2013-01-11 12:08:09 PM
and if they hired people based on race, they'd get shiat for that too.
 
2013-01-11 12:11:55 PM
So thus far Obama has appointed four white guys... but he also has 3 holdovers from his last cabinet: Sebelious, Holder and Shinseki. So his cabinet current make up is about 60% white guys, and 15 percent for blacks, asians and women. So blacks and asians are slightly over represented as a percentage of the population.

But if we were to count Obama as a member of his own team... Then blacks are about 25%. That's a gross over representation of blacks and a likely first step towards the eventual enslavement of white people.
 
2013-01-11 12:14:35 PM
It's nice to see that media and the party of white, male privilege are so concerned for the broads.  Very white (male) knighty of them.
 
2013-01-11 12:16:23 PM
I certainly don't want Obama to nominate an old, old wooden ship.
 
2013-01-11 12:19:30 PM

Lionel Mandrake: white, male privilege


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2013-01-11 12:20:14 PM
Obama has a "diverse cabinet": OMG! Affirmative Action!

Obama has "bunch of whitey" on his cabinet: Whar diversity? Whar?
 
2013-01-11 12:21:33 PM

James!: I certainly don't want Obama to nominate an old, old wooden ship.


I LOLed.
 
2013-01-11 12:29:43 PM
Personally, I think one of the best criteria should be "Is this the best person for the job?" and not "What sex is this person?"

But that's just me.
 
2013-01-11 12:38:27 PM
He's only half black, so his ethnic density is insufficient to raise the average, despite his position.
 
2013-01-11 12:39:32 PM
Whatever happened to "best person for the job"?
 
2013-01-11 12:39:37 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: Obama has a "diverse cabinet": OMG! Affirmative Action!

Obama has "bunch of whitey" on his cabinet: Whar diversity? Whar?


THIS.
 
2013-01-11 12:39:46 PM
I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous.
 
2013-01-11 12:40:13 PM

BunkoSquad: James!: I certainly don't want Obama to nominate an old, old wooden ship.

I LOLed.


Okay, help my flu-ridden ass out; what is this from? It's gonna drive me nuts.
 
2013-01-11 12:41:06 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous.


It's Charlie Rangel.
 
2013-01-11 12:41:17 PM
Real diversity is based on economic background, not color. Rich white vs poor white is a much greater difference than rich black vs rich whtie.
 
2013-01-11 12:41:28 PM
I should think that such things are tracked term to term. Yet some quick googling doesn't return graphs showing racial / religious / ethnic proportions over multiple administrations... Hmm...
 
2013-01-11 12:42:01 PM
Everybody knows the token black guy in movies always dies. Bad move Fartbongo. You need another brother to break the trope.

/has to think of everything
 
2013-01-11 12:42:08 PM
President isn't an important position.
 
2013-01-11 12:42:13 PM

James!: A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous.

It's Charlie Rangel.


Charlie Rangel is pretty ridiculous on his own, but I was actually referring to the thread.
 
2013-01-11 12:42:26 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous.


It's like someone with their house on fire biatching that their neighbor left the stove on.
 
2013-01-11 12:42:46 PM
scottystarnes.files.wordpress.com

Miss me yet?
 
2013-01-11 12:43:17 PM
A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous. I don't know who Charlie Rangel is so I'm just going to phone in some comment about a group of people I don't like
 
2013-01-11 12:43:21 PM
Just need the NAACP to get him a few binders. Remember the fall of 2012? What halcyon days those were
 
2013-01-11 12:43:24 PM
In response, the White House points out they do have one black guy in a kinda important position

Who's that, Eric Holder?
 
2013-01-11 12:43:51 PM
Has everyone forgotten that Obama's original choice for Sec of State was a Black woman?
 
2013-01-11 12:44:13 PM

Frank N Stein: A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous. I don't know who Charlie Rangel is so I'm just going to phone in some comment about a group of people I don't like


I was referring to you in particular. Cheers!
 
2013-01-11 12:44:43 PM
You continue to suck, Rangel
 
2013-01-11 12:45:24 PM
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No comment.
 
2013-01-11 12:45:35 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous.


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2013-01-11 12:45:57 PM
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He then added, "And trust me, I know a lot about embarrassments."
 
2013-01-11 12:45:57 PM

mrshowrules: Diogenes: You know, there are only so many positions in the cabinet.  And maybe we should look at the totality of Obama's inclusiveness over his time in office instead of pissing and moaning and asking "What have you done for me lately, Obama?".

You need some type of Pantone colour scale average.  For gender representation, some type of clitoral/penal length averaging.


So if Obama replaces Eric Holder with a woman, then to keep the same ratio, he would need to replace Sebelius with 1 and a half white guys or 2 Asians?
 
2013-01-11 12:46:09 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous.


Mike Huckabee and the rest of the goblins at Fox News are very concerned about Obama's lack of diversity. Is this what we voted for ladies?

And did you notice how few Muslims 0bama has appointed to his cabinet? Why is he forcing radical Christianity onto a country that wants diversity? Concerned patriots would like to know.
 
2013-01-11 12:46:20 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Personally, I think one of the best criteria should be "Is this the best person for the job?" and not "What sex is this person?"

But that's just me.


Strangely adding some diversity even when white males are all the best qualified actually does good things, especially when you are leading the world. Having a diversity of opinions around you tends to cause your groups decisions to be less predictable and removes some of the age old dogmas about the right way to do things, and overall generally leads to more creative solutions to the problem, especially when the solution has an impact on the world of non white males.

I still think Rangel needs to STFU though.
 
2013-01-11 12:46:41 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Frank N Stein: A Dark Evil Omen: I always like it when rightists try to throw complaints like this back at the center and left, because it's always so very, very ridiculous. I don't know who Charlie Rangel is so I'm just going to phone in some comment about a group of people I don't like

I was referring to you in particular. Cheers!


Fair enough. To be clear, what specific problem do you have with my complaint that diversity issues are heavily politicized?
 
2013-01-11 12:46:47 PM

actualhuman: BunkoSquad: James!: I certainly don't want Obama to nominate an old, old wooden ship.

I LOLed.

Okay, help my flu-ridden ass out; what is this from? It's gonna drive me nuts.


I'm Ron Burgandy?
 
2013-01-11 12:46:51 PM
You should be allowed to count first family.
 
2013-01-11 12:46:52 PM
There are quite a few hand-wringing articles out there about Obama and his recent spate of appointing "White Dudes". Buried in all those articles are clips like this one, from Slate:

"Rice and Clinton are just a couple of the powerful women who have been in the Obama orbit. There's also Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius, Homeland Security Director Janet Napolitano, outgoing Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis, and outgoing EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson. The president's top lawyer and top domestic policy advisers are also women. Obama named two women to the Supreme Court, one of whom was his former solicitor general in the Justice Department-a branch headed by an African-American man-and the other who was the first Hispanic woman named to the court. The Supreme Court arguably plays a more lasting role in determining gender and ethnic fairness in American society than any Cabinet post.

The Obama staff directory is a binder full of women. The White House itself employs more women than men.* As the New York Times notes, about 43 percent of Obama's appointees have been women, about the same proportion as in the Clinton administration, but up from the roughly one-third appointed by George W. Bush.

In the end, the only thing that has really changed so far from Obama's first term is that the president intends to replace Hillary Clinton with a man."

Sure, the last few have been white dudes, but thats mainly because Obama decided it was better to try to target the last demographic he hasn't already gotten, wealthy, moderate white dudes. He's paring off the remaining handful of centrist Republicans, ensuring the Dems have every demographic not completely insane in their fold.

Long game, not lack of diversity...
 
2013-01-11 12:46:56 PM

AcneVulgaris: He's only half black, so his ethnic density is insufficient to raise the average, despite his position.



Link
 
2013-01-11 12:48:37 PM
There are reasons to oppose all of Obama's cabinet appointments from the left, some better than others. John Kerry frees up a senate seat in a state where Republicans have a strong candidate, although it's also a very blue state. Jack Lew is a bankster puppet. John Brennan has an awful civil liberties record. Chuck Hagel's a Republican and a latecomer to doveishness - his vote for the Iraq War showed poor judgment.

Instead these idiots are making it about identity politics. As though the problem with Lew and Brennan are that they're white, not the policies they'll support.
 
2013-01-11 12:49:05 PM
www.mainjustice.com

He was great on "Barney Miller."
 
2013-01-11 12:51:28 PM

Nabb1: I, personally, will not be satisfied until the Cabinet has it's first Lesbian left-handed midget albino eskimo appointee.


Only if she's also pregnant as a surrogate for an interracial gay couple, at least one member of which must be autistic.
 
2013-01-11 12:52:57 PM

Frank N Stein: The notion of diversity in this country has become little more than a political tool. It's simply bargaining chip that can be trotted out to appease, strong arm, or divert attention to the "proper" channel, depending upon the situation. What diversity is not, I've come to realize, is an organically developed realization and application of letting people merely "be". The idea of diversity as a strength breaks down when politics realizes the advantage of grabbing hold of this concept like a leech and begins using it to its advantage. No amount of politically induced racial quotas, grandstanding, and inquisitions will ever allow for flourish of true diversity, one in which the dividing lines between individuals (be it race, gender, sexual orientation, creed etc...) is not a factor. In fact, those political leeches have it in their best interest to keep the question about diversity convoluted and divisive as possible, because its become one of their most effective tools.

And that's my rant.


You're putting way too much into this. The proper translation of Rangel's comments is "I haven't been nominated for a cabinet position. Waah!"
 
2013-01-11 12:54:04 PM

Lionel Mandrake: You know, I'm all for government "looking like America," but there always a chance of over- or underrepresentation.  Looking back over the past four years, I think what's "embarrassing than hell" is people trying to paint Obama as some kind diversity-opposer.  Everyone knows it's a crock.


I concur 100%
 
2013-01-11 12:54:22 PM

HighOnCraic: [www.mainjustice.com image 300x414]

He was great on "Barney Miller."


Even better on Firefly
 
2013-01-11 12:54:40 PM
It's also embarrassing as hell that Congress hasn't expelled Charlie Rangel, and that his district keeps electing him.
 
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