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2013-01-11 09:00:11 AM  
Going to jail after shooting yourself with a prohibited weapon is also apparently cool.

And for ESPN, who never miss a chance to namedrop and cross-reference stories with stars...
 
2013-01-11 09:00:28 AM  
They let go of James Harrison?
[reads article]

Oh, a third to possibly second string running back that they didn't need. Way to take a stand when it's convenient.
 
2013-01-11 09:02:41 AM  
More than okay, if you're Roethlisberger.
 
2013-01-11 09:05:59 AM  
+1 Subby.
 
2013-01-11 09:07:46 AM  
Place your bets for "What Argument Will the First Steelers Fan Trying To Justify This Use?"

- Big Ben was not charged with any crime: 2-1
- He was probably going to be cut anyway: 3-1
- Rainey has a history of this sort of behavior so dumping him immediately was justified: 4-1
- Rainey has a history of this sort of behavior so dumping him immediately was justified, and acknowledges that Big Ben has a history as well: 10-1
- Who cares, Big Ben is our franchise QB, this guy is a nobody, that's how the real world works: 20-1
- Ray Lewis got away with murder: 100-1
 
2013-01-11 09:12:00 AM  
Very funny, but I bet subby hopes his team signs Mike Vick when he becomes a free agent.

/Just to fark with jayhawk88's odds.
//possibly drunk in a foreign country, trying to amuse myself.
 
2013-01-11 09:12:14 AM  
You all are butt hurt: 2-1
 
2013-01-11 09:17:51 AM  

jayhawk88: Place your bets for "What Argument Will the First Steelers Fan Trying To Justify This Use?"

- Big Ben was not charged with any crime: 2-1
- He was probably going to be cut anyway: 3-1
- Rainey has a history of this sort of behavior so dumping him immediately was justified: 4-1
- Rainey has a history of this sort of behavior so dumping him immediately was justified, and acknowledges that Big Ben has a history as well: 10-1
- Who cares, Big Ben is our franchise QB, this guy is a nobody, that's how the real world works: 20-1
- Ray Lewis got away with murder: 100-1


I'll have a #1 and a #3 (supersized)

Rainey showed potential, had great open field speed, and was a fairly solid kick returner. That being said, there is also a reason he was a 5th round pick.
 
2013-01-11 09:19:08 AM  
Who cares? Big Ben is our franchise QB and this guy is a nobody. Sorry subby, but that is how the world works. Now, GBTW and STFU
 
2013-01-11 09:22:54 AM  
Ray Lewis got away with murder
 
2013-01-11 09:28:36 AM  

ltdanman44: Who cares? Big Ben is our franchise QB and this guy is a nobody. Sorry subby, but that is how the world works. Now, GBTW and STFU


Its was only rape rape.
 
2013-01-11 09:29:52 AM  
How long before he's quietly re-signed?
 
2013-01-11 09:46:54 AM  
 
2013-01-11 09:47:01 AM  

Deneb81: How long before he's quietly re-signed?


I thought the Steelers already had 3 somewhat formidable running backs in Redman, Mendhall, and Dwyer. I can't see the need for another running back.
 
2013-01-11 09:50:06 AM  
Chances this thread will continue a herpin and derpin for at least 150 posts: 100%
 
2013-01-11 09:52:30 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Very funny, but I bet subby hopes his team signs Mike Vick when he becomes a free agent.

/Just to fark with jayhawk88's odds.
//possibly drunk in a foreign country, trying to amuse myself.


Subby here and Steeler Fan, this is what they should have done with Ben.
 
2013-01-11 09:54:06 AM  

EyeballKid: Deneb81: How long before he's quietly re-signed?

I thought the Steelers already had 3 somewhat formidable average at their best running backs in Redman, Mendhall, and Dwyer. I can't see the need for another running back.



They will take a RB in the first round of the draft. There is no need to re-sign Rainey.
 
2013-01-11 10:03:57 AM  

CipollinaFan: EyeballKid: Deneb81: How long before he's quietly re-signed?

I thought the Steelers already had 3 somewhat formidable average at their best running backs in Redman, Mendhall, and Dwyer. I can't see the need for another running back.


They will take a RB in the first round of the draft. There is no need to re-sign Rainey.


RB in the first round is an absolute waste, unless he's a can't-miss guy like Peterson or Richardson early in the draft. RB-by-committee works fine and in most drafts you can find the same talent in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounds as you can in the first.

And if the Steelers are going to use their 1st rounder on offense they need a WR more than they need a RB. They have RBs that are competent (1st Browns game excepted), but the WRs were farking terrible this year.
 
2013-01-11 10:18:03 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: CipollinaFan: EyeballKid: Deneb81: How long before he's quietly re-signed?

I thought the Steelers already had 3 somewhat formidable average at their best running backs in Redman, Mendhall, and Dwyer. I can't see the need for another running back.


They will take a RB in the first round of the draft. There is no need to re-sign Rainey.

RB in the first round is an absolute waste, unless he's a can't-miss guy like Peterson or Richardson early in the draft. RB-by-committee works fine and in most drafts you can find the same talent in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounds as you can in the first.

And if the Steelers are going to use their 1st rounder on offense they need a WR more than they need a RB. They have RBs that are competent (1st Browns game excepted), but the WRs were farking terrible this year.


Mendenhall is done there. iirc, he is set to be a FA and probably want more money to juke 3 time before hitting the line. Dwyer shows potential when he runs North/South, Bettis style. Redman is the Mike Tomzack of RBs (great off the bench a good short term starter).

Wallace is gone too. Guy pitches a fit because he wants more money, signs a 1 year deal, then has a dud of a season going into free agency. Good luck getting any good offers now.

I think it all boils down to who is available when they are up. That Defense needs a good, young, dominant middle linebacker too. The safeties are getting old, Harrison might be gone, Hampton isn't remotely as effective as he needs to be...

Like you said, if they go offense, WR is probably the best bet. If they go defense, its hard to go wrong with almost any position.
 
2013-01-11 10:30:15 AM  

iron_city_ap:
Wallace is gone too. Guy pitches a fit because he wants more money, signs a 1 year deal, then has a dud of a season going into free agency. Good luck getting any good offers now.
i>


I really, really want the Bengals to sign Mike Wallace. I think he's just what that offense needs (plus some help on the o-line).
 
2013-01-11 10:35:11 AM  

iron_city_ap: That Defense needs a good, young, dominant middle linebacker too.


Sadly Jarvis Jones will be gone by that point.
 
2013-01-11 10:39:23 AM  

The Slush: iron_city_ap: That Defense needs a good, young, dominant middle linebacker too.

Sadly Jarvis Jones will be gone by that point.


Luckily Timmons is still on the team to fill that role, unless they're moving him outside when they cut Harrison. Yeah, Foote could be upgraded but that's not as important as getting a young safety or even an upgrade at WR.
 
2013-01-11 10:42:13 AM  

NKURyan: iron_city_ap:
Wallace is gone too. Guy pitches a fit because he wants more money, signs a 1 year deal, then has a dud of a season going into free agency. Good luck getting any good offers now.
i>

I really, really want the Bengals to sign Mike Wallace. I think he's just what that offense needs (plus some help on the o-line).


A cocky, lightning fast guy, who can't or won't get separation or make critical catches because he wants something. THEN have him be a #2 WR behind Green when he feels he should be the #1 ? I like it! It'll tie up a ton of cap money and probably give them a worse passing game.
 
2013-01-11 10:46:45 AM  

NKURyan: iron_city_ap:
Wallace is gone too. Guy pitches a fit because he wants more money, signs a 1 year deal, then has a dud of a season going into free agency. Good luck getting any good offers now.
i>

I really, really want the Bengals to sign Mike Wallace. I think he's just what that offense needs (plus some help on the o-line).


Please proceed, Bengals.
 
2013-01-11 10:48:12 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: The Slush: iron_city_ap: That Defense needs a good, young, dominant middle linebacker too.

Sadly Jarvis Jones will be gone by that point.

Luckily Timmons is still on the team to fill that role, unless they're moving him outside when they cut Harrison. Yeah, Foote could be upgraded but that's not as important as getting a young safety or even an upgrade at WR.


Too early to tell what will happen with Harrison. Hopefully he renegotiates and stays around. Assuming he does, Timmons is solid in the middle, just not dominant. The key to that defese is a dominant nose tackle and a dominant middle linebacker. The nose is more critical. I could see them trading up if they really like a kid, or trading down if they can't go up and feel there will still be plenty available in the lower portion of the 1st.
 
2013-01-11 10:54:35 AM  

iron_city_ap: AdmirableSnackbar: The Slush: iron_city_ap: That Defense needs a good, young, dominant middle linebacker too.

Sadly Jarvis Jones will be gone by that point.

Luckily Timmons is still on the team to fill that role, unless they're moving him outside when they cut Harrison. Yeah, Foote could be upgraded but that's not as important as getting a young safety or even an upgrade at WR.

Too early to tell what will happen with Harrison. Hopefully he renegotiates and stays around. Assuming he does, Timmons is solid in the middle, just not dominant. The key to that defese is a dominant nose tackle and a dominant middle linebacker. The nose is more critical. I could see them trading up if they really like a kid, or trading down if they can't go up and feel there will still be plenty available in the lower portion of the 1st.


Timmons is just 26. He is just reaching his prime and could play at a high level for another 5 years. He might not be "dominant" but he led the team in tackles, sacks, and interceptions. I'd say that makes his a position not in any need of an upgrade.
 
2013-01-11 11:07:03 AM  
You expect one of your middles to lead the team in tackles. The fact he led in sacks and ints is not a good sign IMO. Like I said before, the nose is more critical, but we need a Farrior type guy. Timmons could be that, but without a truely dominating nose tackle, its hard to tell. Don't get me wrong, I like Timmons alot. Plus, like you said, if Harriaon goes they could move Timmons outside and Foote needs to be upgraded.
 
2013-01-11 11:40:57 AM  

js34603: Chances this thread will continue a herpin and derpin for at least 150 posts: 100%


The only herp-derp comes from people who think rape is okay. Especially when he is a very good player for your favorite sports team.
 
2013-01-11 11:58:58 AM  

EyeballKid: They let go of James Harrison?
[reads article]

Oh, a third to possibly second string running back that they didn't need. Way to take a stand when it's convenient.


Oh pull the tampon out of your vag.
 
2013-01-11 12:00:43 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: js34603: Chances this thread will continue a herpin and derpin for at least 150 posts: 100%

The only herp-derp comes from people who think rape is okay. Especially when he is a very good player for your favorite sports team.


I think Big Ben is a tough quarterback, but not a great Quarterback, and this whole rape thing makes me not to fond of him. As a big Steelers fan, I personal think we should make a run at Alex Smith, if he becomes open.
 
2013-01-11 12:11:16 PM  

TheTrashcanMan: Jim from Saint Paul: js34603: Chances this thread will continue a herpin and derpin for at least 150 posts: 100%

The only herp-derp comes from people who think rape is okay. Especially when he is a very good player for your favorite sports team.

I think Big Ben is a tough quarterback, but not a great Quarterback, and this whole rape thing makes me not to fond of him. As a big Steelers fan, I personal think we should make a run at Alex Smith, if he becomes open.


From one extreme to another.
Smith won't win or lose you games and he would be great for one of the classic Steeler teams that just needed competent, careful QB work to complement great run blocking and defense.
 
2013-01-11 12:17:35 PM  

RumsfeldsReplacement: Ray Lewis got away with murder


Didn't they acquit his two buddies on grounds of self-defense in spite of Lewis turning states' evidence.
 
2013-01-11 12:21:17 PM  
bigbendover

/oblig
//imagetoolargeforfark
 
2013-01-11 12:26:27 PM  

NKURyan: iron_city_ap:
Wallace is gone too. Guy pitches a fit because he wants more money, signs a 1 year deal, then has a dud of a season going into free agency. Good luck getting any good offers now.
i>

I really, really want the Bengals to sign Mike Wallace. I think he's just what that offense needs (plus some help on the o-line).


He's all yours. He wants Fitzgerald money, though
 
2013-01-11 12:32:31 PM  
hey subby, they pay for results, not for trying.
 
2013-01-11 01:10:48 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: js34603: Chances this thread will continue a herpin and derpin for at least 150 posts: 100%

The only herp-derp comes from people who think rape is okay. Especially when he is a very good player for your favorite sports team.


Remember when those kids from Duke raped that stripper? Awful stuff. Everyone who likes Duke thinks rape is OK.

/get back to your herpin, Jim, lot of posts to go
 
2013-01-11 01:25:38 PM  

js34603: Jim from Saint Paul: js34603: Chances this thread will continue a herpin and derpin for at least 150 posts: 100%

The only herp-derp comes from people who think rape is okay. Especially when he is a very good player for your favorite sports team.

Remember when those kids from Duke raped that stripper? Awful stuff. Everyone who likes Duke thinks rape is OK.

/get back to your herpin, Jim, lot of posts to go


You're cute.
 
2013-01-11 01:32:09 PM  

js34603: Jim from Saint Paul: js34603: Chances this thread will continue a herpin and derpin for at least 150 posts: 100%

The only herp-derp comes from people who think rape is okay. Especially when he is a very good player for your favorite sports team.

Remember when those kids from Duke raped that stripper? Awful stuff. Everyone who likes Duke thinks rape is OK.

/get back to your herpin, Jim, lot of posts to go


Remember when they were accused by three different women, three different times?

Oh wait, that was Ben, nevermind.

/get back yo your derpin sir, lots of posts to go
 
2013-01-11 01:38:01 PM  

js34603: Remember when those kids from Duke raped that stripper? Awful stuff. Everyone who likes Duke thinks rape is OK.

/get back to your herpin, Jim, lot of posts to go


IIRC, it was determined she was gold-mining and the charges were baseless.
Yep, I recalled correctly.

/Steelers fan,
//still cringing about Ben's asshattery,
///made worse by assistance from PA Trooper/bodyguard.
 
2013-01-11 01:49:30 PM  

NKURyan: I really, really want the Bengals to sign Mike Wallace.


www2.turnto10.com

Maybe back when he was in his prime...
 
2013-01-11 02:19:45 PM  
Just know this, Bengals: Wallace is great if he catches it with separation. Otherwise, he's just a fast guy who won't work for anything.
 
2013-01-11 03:07:29 PM  

jayhawk88: Place your bets for "What Argument Will the First Steelers Fan Trying To Justify This Use?"


I use the same one, every time, for every team, in every instance: We root for laundry. I've been a steeler fan for over forty years and I'm not changing teams just because so and so sucks. I really hope there aren't NFL fans who have chosen their favorite team because of the character of the teams' players. Whoever you root for, they either had a bunch of douchebags on the roster before, they will have douchebags on the roster later, or they have some douchebags now... but probably all three. there are certainly NFL players I don't care for but this is entertainment and our opinions mean shiat. I wouldn't care if they literally allowed players on work release from the penitentiary.
 
2013-01-11 03:35:34 PM  

jayhawk88: Place your bets for "What Argument Will the First Steelers Fan Trying To Justify This Use?"

- Big Ben was not charged with any crime: 2-1
- He was probably going to be cut anyway: 3-1
- Rainey has a history of this sort of behavior so dumping him immediately was justified: 4-1
- Rainey has a history of this sort of behavior so dumping him immediately was justified, and acknowledges that Big Ben has a history as well: 10-1
- Who cares, Big Ben is our franchise QB, this guy is a nobody, that's how the real world works: 20-1
- Ray Lewis got away with murder: 100-1


I've never heard a steelersrape fan try to use any argument except blaming the victim. Classy lot, those steelersrape fans.
 
2013-01-11 04:38:52 PM  

iron_city_ap: NKURyan: iron_city_ap:
Wallace is gone too. Guy pitches a fit because he wants more money, signs a 1 year deal, then has a dud of a season going into free agency. Good luck getting any good offers now.
i>

I really, really want the Bengals to sign Mike Wallace. I think he's just what that offense needs (plus some help on the o-line).

A cocky, lightning fast guy, who can't or won't get separation or make critical catches because he wants something. THEN have him be a #2 WR behind Green when he feels he should be the #1 ? I like it! It'll tie up a ton of cap money and probably give them a worse passing game.


A lightning fast WR across the field from one of the best young WRs in the game, with enough speed to keep people from focusing on AJ as much as they do and the ability to help make life easier on Jermain Gresham in the middle? Who can provide a nice complement to Sanu and Hawkin's skill sets while allowing Marvin Jones to develop into the #2 guy scouts seem to think he can be? And who should be extra motivated to have a big game twice a year against the Steelers if nothing else?

I think I'll take that chance. He may want big bucks but it doesn't mean he's going to get it, especially coming off the season he had. Aside from that, the Bengals have plenty of money to spend, a need for another offensive threat, and a huge need to finally find that elusive playoff win and I think it makes sense.

I can see it potentially not panning out, sure, but I like the upside and feel the Bengals can afford to take the chance. I like what Sanu and Jones have shown, but they can't go rely on them yet. The old Bengals would sit around and hope those two were ready to take over... I say, screw waiting and hoping, go get someone in the meantime!
 
2013-01-11 04:47:03 PM  
According to a release from the Gainesville police department, officers were called at 8:26 a.m. to an apartment complex on SW 42nd Place

Hey! I used to live just down the street from there. There's a Dollar General there.

And as a Steelers fan, I wouldn't be crying if they let Roethlisberger go.

/CSB
 
2013-01-11 07:23:15 PM  
baseball.contentquake.com

Not surprised by this.

Since when did Milton Bradley start playing football?
 
2013-01-11 07:34:11 PM  

Odd Bird: js34603: Remember when those kids from Duke raped that stripper? Awful stuff. Everyone who likes Duke thinks rape is OK.

/get back to your herpin, Jim, lot of posts to go

IIRC, it was determined she was gold-mining and the charges were baseless.
Yep, I recalled correctly.

/Steelers fan,
//still cringing about Ben's asshattery,
///made worse by assistance from PA Trooper/bodyguard.


The fact is that Ben was never found guilty in any of the cases. I don't like him. My personal opinion is that he's a rapist, but my personal opinion doesn't matter in a court of law.

If he were smart (which he's obviously not, whether it's on a motorcycle or raping women), he would breathe a deep sigh of relief and never put himself in a position where he's alone with a strange woman, let alone behind the wheel.

Maybe he has grown up. I have my doubts. I think he's still a grease fire waiting to happen. The Steelers organization has been fortunate enough to get several big warning signs.
 
2013-01-12 01:07:44 AM  

Odd Bird: js34603: Remember when those kids from Duke raped that stripper? Awful stuff. Everyone who likes Duke thinks rape is OK.

/get back to your herpin, Jim, lot of posts to go

IIRC, it was determined she was gold-mining and the charges were baseless.
Yep, I recalled correctly.


Your recall and reading comprehension both leave something to be desired. It was determined that there wasn't enough evidence to charge the players, and that the prosecution committed huge ethical violations that resulted in him being disbarred, but at no point was it determined "she was gold-mining and the charges were baseless".

See, here's the thing... Contrary to your black and white dichotomy view of the world, reality has a whole range of possibilities. If someone is acquitted of a crime, that doesn't automatically mean that the alleged victim is lying. Between mistaken identification or lack of awareness due to drugs, lack of credibility of the victim due to their past, police or prosecutorial misconduct, etc., it's highly possible that a victim could be telling the truth and the defendant could still be rightly acquitted.
Specifically, someone is guilty only if their guilt can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. That's a high bar. If you're 90% sure someone did the crime, you can't convict them... but does that mean it's 100% certain that the victim is a lying gold-digger? Of course not. What about 70% sure? Still no. What about 50%? Nope. In fact, even if you're 0% sure someone did the crime - maybe because they were standing next to you the entire time - even that doesn't mean the victim must be a lying gold-digger. It's a separate charge, and the fact that the defendant is acquitted says nothing about whether the alleged victim committed perjury or had ulterior motives.
 
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