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2013-01-10 09:24:46 PM
This would work as a T-Shirt design.
 
2013-01-11 12:10:11 AM
Based on a urine flavor chart...

/hmmm
 
2013-01-11 12:56:37 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Based on a urine flavor chart...

/hmmm


Must be a Coors Light wheel.
 
2013-01-11 02:52:40 AM
Somewhat useless without examples of beers falling into which categories.
 
2013-01-11 05:12:19 AM
I am amused that there are separate categories for bad & malt.

/smoked meat? Wat.
 
2013-01-11 05:31:21 AM
This reminds me I need another beer.
 
2013-01-11 05:40:09 AM

BumpInTheNight:
/smoked meat? Wat.


Want me to show you what that is?
 
2013-01-11 06:06:59 AM
Free and Cold missing from the list...
 
2013-01-11 06:12:00 AM
Is arrogant bastard an IPA?
is it hoppy?
what classification is my Beloved Arrogant Bastard?
 
2013-01-11 06:17:00 AM
The chart is missing the wedge that the big three fall into. That would be piss!
 
2013-01-11 06:18:30 AM
"baby sick / diapers"
Corona?
 
2013-01-11 06:19:41 AM
and to delve deeper into the Piss category there would be human piss, horse piss, and piss from a man that has a diet of nothing but asparagus.
 
2013-01-11 06:24:50 AM

sleeper2995: The chart is missing the wedge that the big three fall into. That would be piss!


No, they have a wedge for Bad...
 
2013-01-11 06:37:28 AM
Amazing what your brain decides to hold on to: I saw isoamyl acetate - and immediately thought "banana" - from a job I had 20 years ago working with flavor oils. Opening the fridge with all the different oils to get a sample was an experience!
 
2013-01-11 06:40:47 AM

BumpInTheNight: I am amused that there are separate categories for bad & malt.

/smoked meat? Wat.


Sacrilege! Burn the apostate!
 
2013-01-11 06:53:23 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Based on a urine flavor chart...

/hmmm


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2013-01-11 07:09:13 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: what classification is my Beloved Arrogant Bastard?


American Strong Ale, according to Beer Advocate. But as for taste I think the reason you get "IPA" is that it is a bit forward in the hop department with pine and tart citrus flavor like grapefruit. Which makes sense because I think it uses American hops like Chinook and perhaps Amarillo. But not as hoppy as a standard IPA.
 
2013-01-11 07:12:15 AM
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2013-01-11 07:17:19 AM

BumpInTheNight: smoked meat? Wat.


It's called a rauchbier. They're made with beechwood smoked malt and taste like bacon.
 
2013-01-11 07:26:20 AM
 
2013-01-11 07:31:43 AM

WinoRhino: Uchiha_Cycliste: what classification is my Beloved Arrogant Bastard?

American Strong Ale, according to Beer Advocate. But as for taste I think the reason you get "IPA" is that it is a bit forward in the hop department with pine and tart citrus flavor like grapefruit. Which makes sense because I think it uses American hops like Chinook and perhaps Amarillo. But not as hoppy as a standard IPA.


I find it very reminiscent of their Ruination IPA, but with a different taste,  I like the Arrogant Bastart more, But lately I've really been an IPA guy, For  a few years Newcastle was my beer but my tastes changed, I ESPECIALLY like the Oaked Arrogant Bastard, it's stronger than the regular but manages to have a much milder taste, and being easier to drink. It amazes me.

Thanks for the clarification, first off I didn't know there was a "strong ale" much less and "American strong ale" and would never have taken AB to be an ale.

\was introduced to AB by a bike shop coworker making a statement
\\it wasn't a complimentary statement.
 
2013-01-11 07:38:16 AM

poorjon: BumpInTheNight: smoked meat? Wat.

It's called a rauchbier. They're made with beechwood smoked malt and taste like bacon.


You sonofabiatch, you just divided by 0
 
2013-01-11 07:44:06 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: BumpInTheNight:
/smoked meat? Wat.

Want me to show you what that is?


Yes please!
 
2013-01-11 07:44:08 AM

poorjon: BumpInTheNight: smoked meat? Wat.

It's called a rauchbier. They're made with beechwood smoked malt and taste like bacon.


raunchybeer sounds about right for sure :P
 
2013-01-11 07:50:35 AM

Oldiron_79: poorjon: BumpInTheNight: smoked meat? Wat.

It's called a rauchbier. They're made with beechwood smoked malt and taste like bacon.

You sonofabiatch, you just divided by 0


Smoked malts are amazing. They've expanded quite a bit outside classic Rauchbier styles. We have a Micro Brewery here on Long Island called Blind Bat. They have a "Hellsmoke Porter" that makes you think you were eating a pulled pork sandwich at that very moment and just followed it with as swig of beer. It's sublime.

From his website; "In the case of my Hellsmoke Porter, I smoke a portion of the grains myself over alder and applewood."

How can you go wrong?

Uchiha_Cycliste: I ESPECIALLY like the Oaked Arrogant Bastard, it's stronger than the regular but manages to have a much milder taste, and being easier to drink. It amazes me.


That's because it's Oaked.

When you use Oak in brewing, either putting the beer in an aged oak barrel or onto oak chips, it imparts flavors of the wood itself and anything that's been in it before. You get a nice flavor from the oak, but it also mellows the sharper flavors at the same time.

/has an beer in secondary that's sitting on oak whiskey barrel chips right now
 
2013-01-11 07:51:13 AM
I heard angels singing. Is that normal? Anyone else?
 
2013-01-11 07:58:10 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Is arrogant bastard an IPA?
is it hoppy?
what classification is my Beloved Arrogant Bastard?


Arrogant Bastard is a brand.
They (as you probably already know) make all styles, they just make them BIG....
I love Arrogant, pick it up every chance I get.
AB has inspired us to make some of our own monster brews....

It's not LIKE a color wheel for beer, it IS a color wheel for beer and if you brew for a competition, it's life or death to get the color correct for the style.
 
2013-01-11 08:10:55 AM
"Ka Beer... is a wheel."
 
2013-01-11 08:13:56 AM

Kevin72: Somewhat useless without examples of beers falling into which categories.


What, you don't know what malts and what hops go into the different beers?

No?

This chart isn't for you.
 
2013-01-11 08:17:22 AM
This is a perfect example of a junky infographic: Information is forced into an unnatural shape for aesthetic purposes in a way that detracts from understanding the information.
 
2013-01-11 08:28:39 AM

Enigmamf: This is a perfect example of a junky infographic: Information is forced into an unnatural shape for aesthetic purposes in a way that detracts from understanding the information.


Maybe that's the point.

Maybe it's just supposed to be stuck up on the wall of some trendy hipster microbrewery. Then the whole point of that infographic is to NOT be easily understood. Only to look compliocated and jargony.

Kinda like how Starbucks had infornographics to convince everyone how burnt coffee beans are superior.
 
2013-01-11 08:29:49 AM
i1247.photobucket.com

Would like a word with the wheel......
 
2013-01-11 08:31:03 AM

Enigmamf: This is a perfect example of a junky infographic: Information is forced into an unnatural shape for aesthetic purposes in a way that detracts from understanding the information.


Yes but 98% of people who see it wont know that. And 5% of those people are going to look for a framed copy to hang in their "man-cave"; it's the 5% of the 98% that this was made for. Simply mock the man-caves you come across with this hanging above the bar, and you will have your revenge.
 
2013-01-11 09:04:02 AM

computerguyUT: Arrogant Bastard is a brand.
They (as you probably already know) make all styles, they just make them BIG....



Arrogant Bastard is a beer made by Stone Brewing. But yeah, most of their beers are pretty big.

Been enjoying Lukcy Basartd (that's how they spell it) from them lately.
 
2013-01-11 09:08:56 AM

Malacon: Smoked malts are amazing. They've expanded quite a bit outside classic Rauchbier styles. We have a Micro Brewery here on Long Island called Blind Bat. They have a "Hellsmoke Porter" that makes you think you were eating a pulled pork sandwich at that very moment and just followed it with as swig of beer. It's sublime.


Does sublime mean "horrifyingly disgusting get this shiat out of my mouth I want to throw up now give me a real beer so I can forget this ever happened"?

If so, then I totally agree with you!
 
2013-01-11 09:19:53 AM

Grither: Malacon: Smoked malts are amazing. They've expanded quite a bit outside classic Rauchbier styles. We have a Micro Brewery here on Long Island called Blind Bat. They have a "Hellsmoke Porter" that makes you think you were eating a pulled pork sandwich at that very moment and just followed it with as swig of beer. It's sublime.

Does sublime mean "horrifyingly disgusting get this shiat out of my mouth I want to throw up now give me a real beer so I can forget this ever happened"?

If so, then I totally agree with you!


Heathen!
 
2013-01-11 09:22:48 AM
I make it a point to try a new/different beer as often as possible. Lat one was a Weyerbacher "Blithering Idiot" Barleywine. Surprisingly tasty, not too hoppy, smooth and very drinkable for a 11.1% ABV brew. Definitely on the "buy again" list.

/Just made a batch of Cyser on Wednesday
//Wating for my son to visit later this month to brew an Imperial Stout. Perfect father/son activity.
///The last batch was a Porter and it was barely carbonated before I polished it off.
 
2013-01-11 09:37:15 AM
It uses clear verbiage instead of chemical names


...except for "funky". Unlike all the other terms they're using which are pretty much non-subjective and unambiguous, the word "funky" is literally meaningless.
 
2013-01-11 11:13:24 AM

Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: [i1247.photobucket.com image 850x541]

Would like a word with the wheel......


Shouldn't that be a 'Beer-iodic Table'?
/what a great missed opportunity
 
2013-01-11 11:54:11 AM

phaseolus: It uses clear verbiage instead of chemical names


...except for "funky". Unlike all the other terms they're using which are pretty much non-subjective and unambiguous, the word "funky" is literally meaningless.


In beer, it usually refers to "barnyard," "sweaty horse blanket," or "old cheese."
 
2013-01-11 12:22:35 PM

Enigmamf: This is a perfect example of a junky infographic: Information is forced into an unnatural shape for aesthetic purposes in a way that detracts from understanding the information.


sendtodave: Maybe it's just supposed to be stuck up on the wall of some trendy hipster microbrewery. Then the whole point of that infographic is to NOT be easily understood. Only to look compliocated and jargony.


This isn't a hip new trendy infograpfic, the beer flavor wheel has been around for at least a couple of decades. Its used to break down the various contributions to a beer's flavor and aroma to iron out harsh spots.
 
2013-01-11 01:17:48 PM

Bruxellensis: In beer, it usually refers to "barnyard," "sweaty horse blanket," or "old cheese."



so ... it's a descriptor with at least three possible meanings, one of which (old cheese) could be interpreted in more than one way?

How's anyone supposed to know whether the speaker's referring to horse blanket funky as opposed to Limburger cheese funky? Or some other kind of cheese funky?

Or is this just one of those word choices that's mostly used to show that someone's a part of a certain group, early 21st century beer nerds in this case, therefore the exact meaning isn't all that important?
 
2013-01-11 01:19:19 PM
That chart sucked. It doesn't provide any information. It's merely data arranged in a pretty but pointless pattern.
 
2013-01-11 01:41:33 PM

phaseolus: Bruxellensis: In beer, it usually refers to "barnyard," "sweaty horse blanket," or "old cheese."


so ... it's a descriptor with at least three possible meanings, one of which (old cheese) could be interpreted in more than one way?

How's anyone supposed to know whether the speaker's referring to horse blanket funky as opposed to Limburger cheese funky? Or some other kind of cheese funky?

Or is this just one of those word choices that's mostly used to show that someone's a part of a certain group, early 21st century beer nerds in this case, therefore the exact meaning isn't all that important?


Because "funk" covers several descriptors that tend to be subjective in nature. Suggesting a beer has "funk" to someone is acceptable, but not precise. It's usually expected to elaborate on your particular perception of the "funk." Some might pick up more of a general barnyard aroma, while others might gather a more specific trait such as sweaty horse blanket, for example. It's used quite commonly to state whether or not the beer has any funky character, usually followed by the type of funk one picks up from said beer. It's a legit term in beer judging and tasting.
 
2013-01-11 01:49:20 PM

poorjon: Enigmamf: This is a perfect example of a junky infographic: Information is forced into an unnatural shape for aesthetic purposes in a way that detracts from understanding the information.

sendtodave: Maybe it's just supposed to be stuck up on the wall of some trendy hipster microbrewery. Then the whole point of that infographic is to NOT be easily understood. Only to look compliocated and jargony.

This isn't a hip new trendy infograpfic, the beer flavor wheel has been around for at least a couple of decades. Its used to break down the various contributions to a beer's flavor and aroma to iron out harsh spots.


A real color wheel demonstrates spatially relationships between different colors. This "flavor wheel" does no such thing: Barrel-aged smoke flavor is not complementary to southern hemisphere cut grass hops flavor.

It's just a table laid out in a wheel.
 
2013-01-11 02:01:54 PM

Enigmamf: poorjon: Enigmamf: This is a perfect example of a junky infographic: Information is forced into an unnatural shape for aesthetic purposes in a way that detracts from understanding the information.

sendtodave: Maybe it's just supposed to be stuck up on the wall of some trendy hipster microbrewery. Then the whole point of that infographic is to NOT be easily understood. Only to look compliocated and jargony.

This isn't a hip new trendy infograpfic, the beer flavor wheel has been around for at least a couple of decades. Its used to break down the various contributions to a beer's flavor and aroma to iron out harsh spots.

A real color wheel demonstrates spatially relationships between different colors. This "flavor wheel" does no such thing: Barrel-aged smoke flavor is not complementary to southern hemisphere cut grass hops flavor.

It's just a table laid out in a wheel.


Yeah I mean...isn't being laid out in a wheel is supposed to imply that opposing flavors reside at opposite sides of the wheel or something? So you can create complementary combinations and so forth. Bubblegum is the opposite of Tropical Fruit? Unless I misunderstand flavors I don't really see that kind of relationship going on, I imagine it would be more natural to have this in some kind of hierarchical table or something.
 
2013-01-11 06:48:31 PM
chewy?

/pardon my spew
 
2013-01-11 11:42:15 PM
Late as always, but wow, it looks like nobody on Fark has ever taken a sensory analysis class. Flavor wheels are like phylogenetic trees, with the trees being wheels, and the phylogiston being flavors. They're also pretty common for wine. They're also not infographics, because they convey no data.

But they're highly interesting to people like me, who understand what they represent and can be used for.
 
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