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2013-01-11 08:06:55 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: The first animated season was crap. It had out of character moments like Padme using C3P0 as bait or Mace Windu taking on an army by himself. It was mostly: ooh look at these cool action scenes i animated! The second Animated season was great.. And the CGI version has been excellent.


That's interesting. I always heard about how awesome the animated series was and following your description I apparently ended up watching part of the first season. I didn't get what all the fuss was about; just as you said, it was just mindless action sequence after mindless action sequence. Only slightly edging out the new movies because there was no story to foul up.

I might check out the other stuff. Maybe skip the second season (really, really don't get what the fuss was about) and just watch the CGI deals.
 
2013-01-11 08:20:48 AM  
media.giantbomb.com

Been there, done that, got a t-shirt.
 
2013-01-11 08:28:12 AM  
Had an idea for a sort of young Han Solo TV series, around the time after the prequel trilogy ended and Lucas had a major announcement I actually convinced a co-worker that it was going to happen.

Would follow a young Han Solo as he meets people like Chewbacca and Lando, gets the Millennium Falcon, gets into a career as a smuggler, encounters bounty hunters, and basically "Captain Kirk's" his way across the SW universe. Han always seemed to be a guy who knew someone that could help him out from the smuggler days and his cocky attitude and smugness was something that was sorely missing from the prequel trilogy... thats what I used as the point to convince the co-worker that there would be a series about him.
 
2013-01-11 08:37:27 AM  
maybe they should air it on scyfy channel
 
2013-01-11 08:49:14 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: Rick McCallum met George Lucas in 1985 after the last of the original trilogy films was made. In the ensuing decades, they collaborated on The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, the Star Wars Special Editions and of course the prequel trilogy. It's like Lucas was the captain of the Titanic and McCallum was the one who willingly and eagerly steered right into the iceberg (if you'll pardon the shopworn cliche).


so pretty much everything that was crap started after mccallum joined. sounds like mccallum was the captain of the titanic, not just manning the wheel.
 
2013-01-11 08:53:05 AM  

Alphax: You know, I've heard mention of that Clone Wars stuff from time to time, but I've never seen any of it, surprising considering how Star Wars was my life in the late 1970's.


Try it out. I started watching it, fully expecting it to suck. But it was actually really great. The animation is top notch, the stories are solid and the voice acting is fantastic. And then when I finished up with the second second, I was told by every fan of the show that the first two seasons were the weakest.

I just finished up season 3. Still loving it.
 
2013-01-11 08:56:14 AM  
Why does it smell like Cheetos and desperation in here?
 
2013-01-11 08:58:26 AM  
Yeah, this is going to suck. They'll make the cancellation pile in less than twelve parsecs.
 
2013-01-11 09:05:19 AM  
They should get Ryan and Dorkman to do the jedi battles in the academy.
 
2013-01-11 09:06:42 AM  

Darke: They should get Ryan and Dorkman to do the jedi battles in the academy.


Only if Ryan tucks his damn shirt in. You weigh 140lbs kid, why are you wearing an XXL?
 
2013-01-11 09:07:03 AM  

fusillade762: HotWingAgenda: There has already been a Star Wars TV show. It was all CG, and was better than the movies.

I was better than the prequels, that's for sure. Though I don't remember it being CGI...


I don't think those are hand drawn. It's almost as I'd they are Computer Generated Images.
 
2013-01-11 09:12:36 AM  
I've got a bad feeling about this.
 
2013-01-11 09:16:55 AM  

sniderman: [images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 629x480]


You went full on Droids? The only way up from that level of crappiness is...

sharetv.org
 
2013-01-11 09:19:01 AM  

Shrinkwrap: Let the game of thrones people run it.


Sean Bean as Jango Fett.
 
2013-01-11 09:31:25 AM  
Awwww____ Star Wars;Nothing but Star Wars;Give me those Star Wars;Don't let them end!   i406.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-11 09:31:55 AM  

MurphyMurphy: Step 1: HBO

Step 2:
[media.battlestarwiki.org image 200x278]


Step 2 = fragging?

That said. Bring back the swash buckling adventure of the heros bumbling around

and starting off with this would be interesting:
images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-01-11 09:36:02 AM  
Pffft

NOW Great TV Series idea: The Saga of Darth Revan
 
2013-01-11 09:36:06 AM  

Petey4335: MurphyMurphy: Step 1: HBO

Step 2:
[media.battlestarwiki.org image 200x278]

Step 2 = fragging?

That said. Bring back the swash buckling adventure of the heros bumbling around

and starting off with this would be interesting:
[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 250x320]


I hate to say it, but the d20 Star Wars rules were actually kind of fun.
 
2013-01-11 09:40:14 AM  
Remove the force entirely. Have a 3 season arc, with episode 4 of the last season being the Battle of Turkana - where the X-wing was first deployed, and everything else leading up to that. Half-seasons, HBO style with Battlestar grittyness.
 
2013-01-11 10:19:28 AM  
As the article stated, it will never work.  Something like this would be way to expensive to do on TV without cutting the budget to the point of it looking ridiculous.  Either way, even if it's good the fan boys will pick apart every episode and biatch and moan about every little detail.
 
2013-01-11 10:31:31 AM  

meat0918: Wasn't this in the pipe before the selling of SW?


No it got canned. This is reviving that idea.
 
2013-01-11 10:32:17 AM  

hubiestubert: Petey4335: MurphyMurphy: Step 1: HBO

Step 2:
[media.battlestarwiki.org image 200x278]

Step 2 = fragging?

That said. Bring back the swash buckling adventure of the heros bumbling around

and starting off with this would be interesting:
[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 250x320]

I hate to say it, but the d20 Star Wars rules were actually kind of fun.


Since our group played the d6 rules starting from about '89 or so and we had almost all the books, we never got into d20. Not that the rules differences probably matters that much. I think we all did RPGs for the laughs, our GMs plot lines and the "dang it, Pete, how can you always roll so baaad"
And we really didn't have many Jedi PCs...
 
2013-01-11 10:38:46 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: gaspode: HotWingAgenda: fusillade762: HotWingAgenda: There has already been a Star Wars TV show. It was all CG, and was better than the movies.

I was better than the prequels, that's for sure. Though I don't remember it being CGI...

[media.sfx.co.uk image 610x464]

Oh wow, they made a cartoon version too?
[www.thickets.net image 350x542]

first couple of series were 2d animation and entirely brilliant.. then they made the 3d ones which were very good, and got consistently better as it went.

The first animated season was crap. It had out of character moments like Padme using C3P0 as bait or Mace Windu taking on an army by himself. It was mostly: ooh look at these cool action scenes i animated! The second Animated season was great.. And the CGI version has been excellent.

The live action one was supposed to be about the Underworld/bounty hunters...

But those wanting HBO style... That's not Star Wars


Exactly. Empire Strikes Back on steroids? Like BSG and Deadwood? Fark that. Star Wars is all about the farking Mary Sues and Pew! Pew! Pew! Hell Firefly was closer to farking Star Wars then either BSG or Deadwood.

Meh, set it between Episode III and IV give us a crew, with an ex-trooper Clone captain, his bad assed no-nonsense Rhodian side kick, a lovable goof ball of a pilot, their ex-Republic Military Doctor, a Wookie mechanic, a bounty hunter, an old ex-Jedi and his half crazy apprentice in a lovable scruffy stock light freighter trying to make their way throughout the outer rim of the galaxy and avoid Imperial entanglements.
 
2013-01-11 10:50:18 AM  

Petey4335: hubiestubert: Petey4335: MurphyMurphy: Step 1: HBO

Step 2:
[media.battlestarwiki.org image 200x278]

Step 2 = fragging?

That said. Bring back the swash buckling adventure of the heros bumbling around

and starting off with this would be interesting:
[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 250x320]

I hate to say it, but the d20 Star Wars rules were actually kind of fun.

Since our group played the d6 rules starting from about '89 or so and we had almost all the books, we never got into d20. Not that the rules differences probably matters that much. I think we all did RPGs for the laughs, our GMs plot lines and the "dang it, Pete, how can you always roll so baaad"
And we really didn't have many Jedi PCs...


The d20 rules have one advantage: they were well designed and very much a toolkit to build stuff with. I'll give WotC one thing, and that is the rule system makes scaling fairly easy. The system is robust enough to range across a lot of styles. They managed to build a system that you could easily rejigger your old Star Frontiers campaigns in with your old D&D games, and not be crippled with variances in the systems. Heck, you could break out your Expedition the Barrier Peaks, and it would work, and work well. Throw in some Gamma World and even Moderns, and all the characters would be workable, and even a Boot Hill rework, and everyone could be happy.
 
2013-01-11 11:04:52 AM  

Kyro: Try it out. I started watching it, fully expecting it to suck. But it was actually really great. The animation is top notch, the stories are solid and the voice acting is fantastic. And then when I finished up with the second second, I was told by every fan of the show that the first two seasons were the weakest.

I just finished up season 3. Still loving it.


Oh man. Wait til you reach the Battle of Umbara arc.
 
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2013-01-11 11:10:27 AM  
Disney will randomly air the show in different time slots for months and then kill it like Tron: Uprising.
 
2013-01-11 11:11:16 AM  

madgonad: It shouldn't be between the trilogies - that's dumb.

They should just do KotOR,

The first entire season could be the constructed from the first game - then build from there, maybe adding the Exile in the third or fourth season.


THIS
 
2013-01-11 11:30:51 AM  
Given how big is and how much time does the Star Wars Universe spans, I do think that there are tons of interesting stories that can be told with different tones... from childish and light to dark and gritty... However, budget is going to be a big issue, I think.
 
2013-01-11 11:41:01 AM  

beerdini: Had an idea for a sort of young Han Solo TV series, around the time after the prequel trilogy ended and Lucas had a major announcement I actually convinced a co-worker that it was going to happen.

Would follow a young Han Solo as he meets people like Chewbacca and Lando, gets the Millennium Falcon, gets into a career as a smuggler, encounters bounty hunters, and basically "Captain Kirk's" his way across the SW universe. Han always seemed to be a guy who knew someone that could help him out from the smuggler days and his cocky attitude and smugness was something that was sorely missing from the prequel trilogy... thats what I used as the point to convince the co-worker that there would be a series about him.


Isn't that basically Firefly?
 
2013-01-11 12:04:42 PM  
How can you say "more films" and "bad enough" in the same sentence? You havent seen them, Lucas isn't directing, you cannot pass legit judgment.
 
2013-01-11 12:24:28 PM  
 
2013-01-11 12:24:45 PM  

flaminio: beerdini: Had an idea for a sort of young Han Solo TV series, around the time after the prequel trilogy ended and Lucas had a major announcement I actually convinced a co-worker that it was going to happen.

Would follow a young Han Solo as he meets people like Chewbacca and Lando, gets the Millennium Falcon, gets into a career as a smuggler, encounters bounty hunters, and basically "Captain Kirk's" his way across the SW universe. Han always seemed to be a guy who knew someone that could help him out from the smuggler days and his cocky attitude and smugness was something that was sorely missing from the prequel trilogy... thats what I used as the point to convince the co-worker that there would be a series about him.

Isn't that basically Firefly?


Pretty much, but with the SW name, it'll attract more viewers.

I'd watch something like that or something along the lines of new BSG.
Or even a Space: Above and Beyond show set in a Clone Commando squad, or Wedge's X wing Squad from the books by Stackpole.
 
2013-01-11 12:51:06 PM  
1. Disney respects their franchises. Look at the Princesses, or Marvel's movies, for an example of the quality they put out.

2. Lucas is a TERRIBLE filmmaker. He has no idea what to do with pacing, acting, directing, he can barely produce anything, and he's stupid. I don't get why everyone isn't ecstatic that someone else is in charge of his crap now.
 
2013-01-11 12:54:16 PM  
Of course they do until they realize how much money its going to cost. The ratings won't be good because most people will be recording it on their dvrs. Advertisers will pull out. Then to save money, we'll have a half season where the characters end up in modern new york ( which will look an awful like the streets of toronto.) People are going to get passed of and the series dies a horrible death.

The End.
 
2013-01-11 12:55:58 PM  

fusillade762: HotWingAgenda: There has already been a Star Wars TV show. It was all CG, and was better than the movies.

I was better than the prequels, that's for sure. Though I don't remember it being CGI...

[media.sfx.co.uk image 610x464]


This is a great series. I have both on DVD.
 
2013-01-11 01:04:02 PM  

Omis: Of course they do until they realize how much money its going to cost. The ratings won't be good because most people will be recording it on their dvrs. Advertisers will pull out. Then to save money, we'll have a half season where the characters end up in modern new york ( which will look an awful like the streets of toronto.) People are going to get passed of and the series dies a horrible death.

The End.


Judging by what the have done with "Once Upon a Time", I'd say that Disney understands that spending money on good product is worthwhile.
 
2013-01-11 01:31:30 PM  

BigSnatch: Shrinkwrap: Let the game of thrones people run it.

Sean Bean as Jango Fett.


You better believe he dies!
 
2013-01-11 01:39:51 PM  
Exactly like Cheers, but set in the Mos Eisley pub.

Porkins will take the place of Norm. Television gold, guaranteed.
 
2013-01-11 01:48:39 PM  
Considering how well done the Clone Wars series have been, and that Disney will want to set a decent precedent, I think they'll take their time to get it right.

Star Wars is space opera. Writ large, and if they go for a series that isn't kid alone oriented, they'll do fine. So long as it doesn't go up on Fox...
 
2013-01-11 01:57:23 PM  

madgonad: It shouldn't be between the trilogies - that's dumb.

They should just do KotOR,

The first entire season could be the constructed from the first game - then build from there, maybe adding the Exile in the third or fourth season.


this

there is so much potential in that period - you'd never even have to reference Darth Vader again

/would love to see the back story of the ancient sith. jedi as well, but i think they've been well covered and more of the same would be meh
 
2013-01-11 01:59:09 PM  

Virtual Pariah: Omis: Of course they do until they realize how much money its going to cost. The ratings won't be good because most people will be recording it on their dvrs. Advertisers will pull out. Then to save money, we'll have a half season where the characters end up in modern new york ( which will look an awful like the streets of toronto.) People are going to get passed of and the series dies a horrible death.

The End.

Judging by what the have done with "Once Upon a Time", I'd say that Disney understands that spending money on good product is worthwhile.


Yeah... I'll buy the whole give them a chance thing, but when you are faced with scenes like this:

MiscCharacter: Umm wtf is she doing here?

ExEvilQueen: I was invited and I'm not evil now. Look, everyone is giving me a 46th chance, what is your problem?

MiscCharacter: You came into my home, turned my daughter into a mouse, my wife into a cat, and made me watch as she ate my daughter alive.

EQ: Seriously? That was like two weeks ago. Don't be a jerk.

Once really needs a 'you are farking kidding me story auditor'
 
2013-01-11 02:09:10 PM  

flaminio: beerdini: Had an idea for a sort of young Han Solo TV series, around the time after the prequel trilogy ended and Lucas had a major announcement I actually convinced a co-worker that it was going to happen.

Would follow a young Han Solo as he meets people like Chewbacca and Lando, gets the Millennium Falcon, gets into a career as a smuggler, encounters bounty hunters, and basically "Captain Kirk's" his way across the SW universe. Han always seemed to be a guy who knew someone that could help him out from the smuggler days and his cocky attitude and smugness was something that was sorely missing from the prequel trilogy... thats what I used as the point to convince the co-worker that there would be a series about him.

Isn't that basically Firefly?


theforvm.org
 
2013-01-11 02:22:35 PM  

kim jong-un: Virtual Pariah: Omis: Of course they do until they realize how much money its going to cost. The ratings won't be good because most people will be recording it on their dvrs. Advertisers will pull out. Then to save money, we'll have a half season where the characters end up in modern new york ( which will look an awful like the streets of toronto.) People are going to get passed of and the series dies a horrible death.

The End.

Judging by what the have done with "Once Upon a Time", I'd say that Disney understands that spending money on good product is worthwhile.

Yeah... I'll buy the whole give them a chance thing, but when you are faced with scenes like this:

MiscCharacter: Umm wtf is she doing here?

ExEvilQueen: I was invited and I'm not evil now. Look, everyone is giving me a 46th chance, what is your problem?

MiscCharacter: You came into my home, turned my daughter into a mouse, my wife into a cat, and made me watch as she ate my daughter alive.

EQ: Seriously? That was like two weeks ago. Don't be a jerk.

Once really needs a 'you are farking kidding me story auditor'


Oh sure.
It's incredibly soapy, but the material lends itself to to really well.

So does SW in the hands of a competent writer. George tried for soap in the prequels, but couldn't even manage that level of writing.
 
2013-01-11 02:23:14 PM  
It really well..

plz add edit functions.
 
2013-01-11 03:01:44 PM  
In Disniet Star Wars, Han doesn't shoot at all!
 
2013-01-11 03:18:12 PM  

johnny_stingray: but where can ABC find another gay robot?

\not him, he's with CBS
\\not them either, they're with the BBC


Channel101: The Musical?

/TAKE THAT OBSCURITY!
 
2013-01-11 04:34:20 PM  

germ78: In Disniet Star Wars, Han doesn't shoot at all!


"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no substitute for a good walkie talkie at your side."
 
2013-01-11 04:55:36 PM  

B.L.Z. Bub: narkor: McCallum no longer works for Lucasfilm / Disney. Given that it was "his baby" - you'd think they'd have kept him around if they were going to go into production with that series.

Rick McCallum met George Lucas in 1985 after the last of the original trilogy films was made. In the ensuing decades, they collaborated on The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, the Star Wars Special Editions and of course the prequel trilogy. It's like Lucas was the captain of the Titanic and McCallum was the one who willingly and eagerly steered right into the iceberg (if you'll pardon the shopworn cliche).


TFA is out of date. Starwars.com announced that Rick McCallum has retired from Lucasfilm.
 
2013-01-11 04:56:59 PM  

Nem Wan: B.L.Z. Bub: narkor: McCallum no longer works for Lucasfilm / Disney. Given that it was "his baby" - you'd think they'd have kept him around if they were going to go into production with that series.

Rick McCallum met George Lucas in 1985 after the last of the original trilogy films was made. In the ensuing decades, they collaborated on The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, the Star Wars Special Editions and of course the prequel trilogy. It's like Lucas was the captain of the Titanic and McCallum was the one who willingly and eagerly steered right into the iceberg (if you'll pardon the shopworn cliche).

TFA is out of date. Starwars.com announced that Rick McCallum has retired from Lucasfilm.


Which is what you just said. Fark me.
 
2013-01-11 05:14:00 PM  

spacemanjones: fusillade762: HotWingAgenda: There has already been a Star Wars TV show. It was all CG, and was better than the movies.

I was better than the prequels, that's for sure. Though I don't remember it being CGI...

I don't think those are hand drawn. It's almost as I'd they are Computer Generated Images.


The series was produced by Genndy Tartakovsky and employs a similar animation style to Tartakovsky's Samurai Jack.

The pilot series, produced primarily with traditional animation
 
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