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(KPTV Portland)   Two men go walking in Portland, OR with loaded assault rifles strapped to their backs to "educate" general public. Hilarity ensues   (kptv.com) divider line 1215
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2013-01-10 10:37:23 PM  

willfullyobscure: davidphogan: willfullyobscure: Demonrats: willfullyobscure: If I had a CCW and a weapon, and I saw this, i would draw, order them them to freeze and call the cops, and I would hold them at gunpoint and shoot to kill if they didn't comply. And, I'd get away scot free, and the cops would send me a Christmas card.

You also may be sued for unlawful use of a firearm by threatening them. How could you feel threatened by two guys walking around with neither hand on their guns, acting non-agressively, and obeying all laws. If they drew on you that is one thing, but when in Rome...

They look like farking Klebold and Harris, that's why. One of them is dressed like a farking haji on the warpath for farks sake. People are getting shot to death going to the mall and watching a movie, for farks sake, by damaged units THAT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THESE GUYS. If I see a black dude with his pants around his asshole and a bandanna over his face I'm gonna go ahead and assume that motherfarker isn't up to any good either, do you have a problem with that?

I wouldn't even need a lawyer, I'd show the judge a cell phone pic and he'd have them committed and give me a gift card to Applebees.

If you actually believe that enjoy your time in prison.

Nice to know you don't have any kind of coherent rebuttal to my point. Seems like I'm on to something.


As I already responded to you, in your fantasy you've committed two crimes in Oregon. They are called menacing and kidnapping.
 
2013-01-10 10:37:49 PM  
It takes a certain kind to be a 22 year-old conservative douche, much less in Portland of all places.
They must feel like big shots, around those libs and their non-violent nature.
 
2013-01-10 10:38:24 PM  
I am so farking tired of hearing about everyone's goddamn "gun rights." Buy a gun if you want, or not, I don't care. But be responsible with it. People who open carry are just attention whores. They're the right's PETA.
 
2013-01-10 10:39:10 PM  

Ficoce: Lol, combat vets advocating 5 round mags? I actually earned a combat patch and when I heard the guy at Clackamas had his rifle jam I waited for it - he had a 30 round mag. 30 rounders suck in the field. They don't fit in your belt well and tend to jam things up even if you tamp them. I believe one of the reasons more people weren't killed at the mall was because of that 30 round mag and the young guy with the CCW that showed the shooter his pistol just before the guy off'ed himself. Maybe we should outlaw mags with less than 30 rounds.


That didn't work out too well here in Tucson two years ago.
 
2013-01-10 10:40:05 PM  

Giltric: Wow someone has a case of the violent fantasies...and it unsuprisingly comes from a rabid anti RKBAer.


They do that a lot, talking about killing children, advocating suicide, dragging congresspeople behind vehicles, etc.

At least we have an idea why they don't believe in gun ownership-they don't trust themselves to exercise self control.
 
2013-01-10 10:40:50 PM  
I voted for Obama.

I don't own a gun; and I don't personally know anyone who does.

These guys were well within their rights, and the law, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with what they did.

The only story here is that there is a story here.

And what's with the anti-gun people's penis obsession?
 
2013-01-10 10:41:02 PM  

Somacandra: BraveNewCheneyWorld: It's amazing how many of you claim they're unbalanced for exercising a legal right.

I have the legal right to stand around on packed street corners and loudly proclaim the end of the world through UFO invasions starring Radioactive Apes, the Illuminati and the Trilaterial Commission too. That doesn't mean passersby won't reasonably think there might be something wrong with me. I don't know anything about their mental state, but your contention here isn't going to cut it.


Having something on you is not a statement, that's a terrible comparison. You realize you're essentially saying that just by looking, you know there's something wrong with them. You know who else judged people based on how they looked...
 
2013-01-10 10:41:09 PM  

Lochsteppe: serial_crusher: The men told officers they were hoping to educate the public about gun rights.
...
Officers said carrying firearms openly is legal

Sounds like the public needed a little education in that department.

Sure, it's just like breastfeeding in public--if you're made uncomfortable by it, it's just because you don't understand how natural and beneficial it really is.


You're good, you.
 
2013-01-10 10:41:20 PM  

jaytkay: Silly Jesus: Pistols are used to murder more people in Chicago every month than there were in the mass shootings. Those are just blah people though, so nobody cares etc

I love it when conservatives remind us of their long history of concern for minorities.


I'm a conservative now? News to me.
 
2013-01-10 10:41:50 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Or is an assault rifle a semi-automatic rifle, but one that, stylistically, looks scary?


i.imgur.com

I think you mean "designed to *create the image/fear/respect* of a military grade, high capacity weapon capable of killing. These rifles are all about creating image, as you admitted. That is precisely what many people are concerned about. No one cared when I carried my wood-grain stock 30-06 over my shoulder as a kid either. It wasn't designed to communicate the *cultural information* these rifles are explicitly designed to give. Maybe part of a solution is to mandate that rifles sold to civilians must not stylistically resemble military-grade arms. That would probably go a long in addressing common fears and impressions.
 
2013-01-10 10:42:10 PM  

Haliburton Cummings: Facetious_Speciest: Haliburton Cummings

no those aren't assault rifles at all.

rtfa nozzle. pay attention to the picturez

There's nothing in the pictures to suggest they're carrying assault rifles. The picture quality isn't good enough to tell.

i guess your internet is in braille?

keep on it gun porn trolls.


It must be comforting and satisfying to be able to say stuff without regard to accuracy and truth. You must be a very happy man.
 
2013-01-10 10:42:20 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: crabsno termites: Editorial: So much anger/ignorance/intolerance on both sides. How stupid we all are.

Thank you for making my point.

BraveNewCheneyWorld: crabsno termites: I usually snark on this site, but not this time.

Well, at least we know you don't support the second amendment, and your opinions aren't derived from facts. I believe there have only been 2 illegal killings with full auto weapons since the 30's, and the 5 round capacity limit assumes the 2nd amendment is solely for hunting, which it is not.

Please point out the anger, I don't see it.

Ignorance? I pointed out that you stated that nobody should have full auto even though only 2 people in the past 80 years abused that type of weapon. Is 2 in 80 years really too much? I don't think that it can be argued that this justifies stripping that right from the remaining 300,000,000 Americans.
I also pointed out that the 2nd amendment wasn't written to protect one's ability to hunt, it is for combat. If you believe these statements are born of ignorance, please elaborate.

Intolerance? Disagreement isn't intolerance. I support all amendments, including the first, so say what you will, but don't expect me to remain silent when you do.


Let me tell you what automatic weapons did for me: Went to RVN with M14's, one A2 (auto) per squad. Replaced with M16's. INSTANT, COMPLETE loss of any fire control. Ask anyone who had green tabs. Useless except under controlled conditions.

The inability to rationally consider any other position is intolerance.

Ever been in combat (not snarking)

I currently own 9 shotguns, 1 drielling (never could spell in German), one rifle, and three handguns (with ccp), so do support 2nd amendment, but will reiterate: ther is no legitimate use for automatic weapons outside the military, and limited use there.
 
2013-01-10 10:42:27 PM  

GoldSpider: Between the "concerned citizens" from this article and about 75% of people posting in this thread, there sure are a lot of people with irrational phobias.


You should see how some people react to one kid with iced tea and skittles!
 
2013-01-10 10:42:57 PM  

Kaenneth: And what's with the anti-gun people's penis obsession?


compensating, projecting, who knows. I wonder what the overlap between the guns=penis and truck=penis crowd is.
 
2013-01-10 10:43:39 PM  

TV's Vinnie: MrEricSir: There's nothing the general public likes more than insensitive self-righteous pricks who think they know everything.

I'm not gun nut (thank god), but the sight of that one particular Brainiac with his rifle pointed downward made me wince. Maybe out in the woods if the gun discharges the bullet would sink into the ground, but imagine that thing going off and the round doing a ricochet straight off of the pavement and striking some kid riding by on his bike.

Even gunnies should be aghast at the utter lack of gun safety these oafs are displaying.


I must have missed the part of the article that said the guns were loaded.
 
2013-01-10 10:43:39 PM  

computerguyUT: They were perfectly legal.
People need to stop crapping all over themselves every time they see a gun.

I have no problem with what they did. Some guy did the same thing here in Utah not too long ago.

Grow up and stop being afraid of the inanimate boogey man.


When you're done talking to people and they start to turn away, do they roll their eyes, like, everytime?
 
2013-01-10 10:43:39 PM  

Somacandra: Maybe part of a solution is to mandate that rifles sold to civilians must not stylistically resemble military-grade arms. That would probably go a long in addressing common fears and impressions.


So, a cosmetic ban?
 
2013-01-10 10:44:06 PM  

DoctorOfLove: All well and good, but were they zionist assault rifles?


Holy shiat, dude. It's rare for trolling to be so goddamned bold that I spit out my drink. Hats off to The Obvious One, King of Kings!
 
2013-01-10 10:44:44 PM  

crabsno termites: I currently own 9 shotguns,


Be careful...you might have a new best friend here who is a hardcore proponent of shotguns.
 
2013-01-10 10:44:46 PM  
HideAndGoFarkYourself: Not to mention that somewhere, somebody is dialing 911 with an actual emergency, and their help is being delayed because these two jackwagons want to walk around carrying AR-15's and wagging their dicks around.

The retards calling 911 should think about how they're delaying someone's actual emergency because they're shiatting themselves over a perfectly legal activity.

Dimensio: A local police officer informed me that he prefers citizens to carry concealed for the specific reason that legally openly carried firearms may cause observers unfamiliar with the law to contact and thus waste the resources of emergency services.


The 911 callers should be prosecuted for wasting the time and resources of emergency responders. Use whatever law prevents me from pranking 911 or calling them 20 times because my shoes fell off.
Go wet your pants somewhere else.
 
2013-01-10 10:44:52 PM  

Somacandra: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Or is an assault rifle a semi-automatic rifle, but one that, stylistically, looks scary?

[i.imgur.com image 438x600]

I think you mean "designed to *create the image/fear/respect* of a military grade, high capacity weapon capable of killing. These rifles are all about creating image, as you admitted. That is precisely what many people are concerned about. No one cared when I carried my wood-grain stock 30-06 over my shoulder as a kid either. It wasn't designed to communicate the *cultural information* these rifles are explicitly designed to give. Maybe part of a solution is to mandate that rifles sold to civilians must not stylistically resemble military-grade arms. That would probably go a long in addressing common fears and impressions.


So if we make them pink and shaped like a unicorn the libs might stop shiatting themselves?
 
2013-01-10 10:45:41 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Who cares why they did it


The Portland police and public and other gun owners interviewed seem to, not to mention the two people that actually did this. If they didn't care why they were doing it they wouldn't have done it, dumbass.

/hate having to Red Forman the thread
 
2013-01-10 10:45:58 PM  

DoctorCal: GoldSpider: Between the "concerned citizens" from this article and about 75% of people posting in this thread, there sure are a lot of people with irrational phobias.

You should see how some people react to one kid with iced tea and skittles!


ZIMMERMAN THREAD! DRINK!

/just kidding
 
2013-01-10 10:46:00 PM  

calbert: KarmicDisaster: calbert:
I will never get tired of seeing that guy on the internet.
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Jeeze, that's the same guy!
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this guy is awesome


And apparently he's on OKCupid. Go get him, tiger!
 
2013-01-10 10:46:40 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: [kptv.images.worldnow.com image 645x362][pixelatedgeek.com image 600x390]


Do believe you win the Inter- and Intranets. Well played.
 
2013-01-10 10:47:19 PM  

pedrop357: demaL-demaL-yeH: Well, you have two votes here against your interpretation from people who stuck their right paws up in the air and swore an oath and put their own lives on the line for the Constitution.

Have you been drilling with the village Militia?

Who gives a flying fark if you've been in the military? Does that mean your opinion is more valid or something?


I do. My family does. My children do. Fellow veterans do. This country does.

Long experience with firearms should carry some weight in this discussion. You were bloviating about Amendment II conferring an unlimited personal right, weren't you? Because the first four words of Amendment II tend to give my (and crabsno termite's) take on it a bit more credence, given the way the Founders implemented Article I Section 8 Clauses 14-16 of the Constitution in 1792.
 
2013-01-10 10:47:32 PM  

stiletto_the_wise: HideAndGoFarkYourself: Not to mention that somewhere, somebody is dialing 911 with an actual emergency, and their help is being delayed because these two jackwagons want to walk around carrying AR-15's and wagging their dicks around.

The retards calling 911 should think about how they're delaying someone's actual emergency because they're shiatting themselves over a perfectly legal activity.

Dimensio: A local police officer informed me that he prefers citizens to carry concealed for the specific reason that legally openly carried firearms may cause observers unfamiliar with the law to contact and thus waste the resources of emergency services.

The 911 callers should be prosecuted for wasting the time and resources of emergency responders. Use whatever law prevents me from pranking 911 or calling them 20 times because my shoes fell off.
Go wet your pants somewhere else.


this
 
2013-01-10 10:48:06 PM  
What is it with jerk offs and their attempt to hide behind dickwad behavior with "well it's legal and if you don't like it too bad I'm doing it anyway"?
Reminds me of the sovereign citizens loons, except only a tad more saner.
 
2013-01-10 10:49:03 PM  
pedrop357:  So, a cosmetic ban?

Real gun owners who love their weapons for themselves won't care if it looks like a military firearm or not. If a person is buying a type of gun based on the "image," maybe they should be discouraged. A gun is a tool. A gun is not a toy or a show dog.
 
2013-01-10 10:49:05 PM  
Somacandra

Maybe part of a solution is to mandate that rifles sold to civilians must not stylistically resemble military-grade arms. That would probably go a long in addressing common fears and impressions.

On the other end of the idea spectrum, I'd suggest that people just learn what the fark they're talking about instead of mandated catering to ignorance.

Seriously...the idea that manufacturers should be forced to change their production lines because "anti-gun" people won't educate themselves regarding the issue they're protesting is a bit silly.
 
2013-01-10 10:49:42 PM  

Silly Jesus: So if we make them pink and shaped like a unicorn the libs might stop shiatting themselves?


Make them look like a Strawman. I'm sure you'll buy dozens.
 
2013-01-10 10:50:16 PM  
Keep farkin that hornets nest, assholes.

/pro 2nd
//anti dumbshiat
 
2013-01-10 10:50:35 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: TV's Vinnie: MrEricSir: There's nothing the general public likes more than insensitive self-righteous pricks who think they know everything.

I'm not gun nut (thank god), but the sight of that one particular Brainiac with his rifle pointed downward made me wince. Maybe out in the woods if the gun discharges the bullet would sink into the ground, but imagine that thing going off and the round doing a ricochet straight off of the pavement and striking some kid riding by on his bike.

Even gunnies should be aghast at the utter lack of gun safety these oafs are displaying.

I must have missed the part of the article that said the guns were loaded.


IIRC, Portland's open carry law restricts it to empty chamber under firing pin, magazine/cylinder may otherwise be loaded - could be wrong.
 
2013-01-10 10:51:03 PM  
I'm going to call 911 the next time I see a snake.
 
2013-01-10 10:51:04 PM  

Giltric: crabsno termites: I currently own 9 shotguns,

Be careful...you might have a new best friend here who is a hardcore proponent of shotguns.


Oh, it's Mr. Spray-and-pray-5.56-for-home-defense again.
 
2013-01-10 10:51:11 PM  

Haliburton Cummings: Facetious_Speciest: Haliburton Cummings

no those aren't assault rifles at all.

rtfa nozzle. pay attention to the picturez

There's nothing in the pictures to suggest they're carrying assault rifles. The picture quality isn't good enough to tell.

[kptv.images.worldnow.com image 645x362]
yeah..that is pretty blurry. AR 15's perhaps?


Years ago, I once had an AR-15 lookalike called the AP-15. .22 cal semi-auto rifle (with a fake "selector" switch to full auto. Looked exactly like an AR-15, except to a slightly smaller scale. The magazine was even about the same size as the AR-15, but with a lot of empty space and a regular .22 cal clip mounted inside. Think it held maybe 18 or 20 rounds.

This was one of the first "assault-rifle-look" semi-autos, and it turned a lot of heads at rifle ranges.

One of my older friends came back from Vietnam with a Sig Saur semi-auto sniper rifle. The farker would cut trees down at half a mile with 2 or 3 shots.

When we both went to a range everyone else just stopped and watched.
 
2013-01-10 10:51:13 PM  

stiletto_the_wise: HideAndGoFarkYourself: Not to mention that somewhere, somebody is dialing 911 with an actual emergency, and their help is being delayed because these two jackwagons want to walk around carrying AR-15's and wagging their dicks around.

The retards calling 911 should think about how they're delaying someone's actual emergency because they're shiatting themselves over a perfectly legal activity.

Dimensio: A local police officer informed me that he prefers citizens to carry concealed for the specific reason that legally openly carried firearms may cause observers unfamiliar with the law to contact and thus waste the resources of emergency services.

The 911 callers should be prosecuted for wasting the time and resources of emergency responders. Use whatever law prevents me from pranking 911 or calling them 20 times because my shoes fell off.
Go wet your pants somewhere else.


Calm down, child. You're being part of the problem right now.

And just because you CAN walk around with deadly weapons strapped to your back doesn't mean you SHOULD. Especially if it's for a stupid reason like "educating the masses".
 
2013-01-10 10:52:32 PM  

Pichu0102: What is it with jerk offs and their attempt to hide behind dickwad behavior with "well it's legal and if you don't like it too bad I'm doing it anyway"?
Reminds me of the sovereign citizens loons, except only a tad more saner.


Whenever anybody says, "Well, it's not illegal" you can kind of figure that they're assholes. Because nobody should ever exercise any control over their behavior unless there's a law against it.

And then guess who biatches the loudest about how we have too many laws?
 
2013-01-10 10:52:56 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: And just because you CAN walk around with deadly weapons strapped to your back doesn't mean you SHOULD.


I haven't heard a rational reason why they shouldn't.

Keizer_Ghidorah: Especially if it's for a stupid reason like "educating the masses".


We wouldn't want that to happen, would we?
 
2013-01-10 10:53:06 PM  

Facetious_Speciest: Haliburton Cummings

i guess your internet is in braille?

Don't be so butthurt over a simple observation. If the article had called their weapons phased plasma rifles, I'd point out the unlikeliness of that as well.


It would be so cool if they were phased plasma rifles.
 
2013-01-10 10:53:16 PM  

stiletto_the_wise: HideAndGoFarkYourself: Not to mention that somewhere, somebody is dialing 911 with an actual emergency, and their help is being delayed because these two jackwagons want to walk around carrying AR-15's and wagging their dicks around.

The retards calling 911 should think about how they're delaying someone's actual emergency because they're shiatting themselves over a perfectly legal activity.

Dimensio: A local police officer informed me that he prefers citizens to carry concealed for the specific reason that legally openly carried firearms may cause observers unfamiliar with the law to contact and thus waste the resources of emergency services.

The 911 callers should be prosecuted for wasting the time and resources of emergency responders. Use whatever law prevents me from pranking 911 or calling them 20 times because my shoes fell off.
Go wet your pants somewhere else.


So, in your mind, at what point would it be "OK" to call 911, if at all? If they "act suspicious"? If they lift the barrel? Do you have to wait for them to make a threat? Do you have to wait until they shoot? When they shoot the first kid, then is it OK then? How can you tell what their intentions are by looking at them? How do I know these aren't a couple yahoos on their way to... whatever?
 
2013-01-10 10:53:30 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: You're only saying that because they did it specifically to make a point. Who cares why they did it, it's still legal despite your disagreement with their motivations.


Driving a van labelled "Free Candy" through a school yard is also legal.
That doesn't mean it's a sensible thing to do, though. Thumbing your nose at people just because you can is an abuse of freedom.
 
2013-01-10 10:53:42 PM  

Dimensio: whither_apophis: Dimensio: whither_apophis: Well you'd do more due diligence than cops in Florida, which brings me back to my first question. Do you skip Florida tags?

I do not intentionally overlook all headlines tagged with the "Florida" tag, but I also do not read all discussions on Fark.

A failure of police to adequately investigate a use of deadly force is not equivalent to a deadly force statute authorizing deadly force in public for reasons other than a reasonable belief of imminent death or bodily injury.

Since the police are the legal entity charged with investigation into use of deadly force in public in cases where a person used deadly force if that person reasonably believed it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony, any lack of effort on the part of the police has the net effect of rendering any statute meaningless.

If police are failing to adequately investigate uses of deadly force, then a legislative mandate establishing minimum investigative standards is warranted.


/that's kinda fun, I see why you post like that.

While my writing style is arguably "stilted", I believe that I have reduced the potential for ambiguity in my statements.


Dude, there's a huge tradeoff between lack of ambiguity and ease of use. If you really want to be free of ambiguity in communication, look up Ithkuil.

And screw you, Weener, he already said that's where he lived. It wasn't a secret.
 
2013-01-10 10:53:47 PM  

Facetious_Speciest: idea that manufacturers should be forced to change their production lines


Yeah, you'd let Rat Poison makers make their canisters look like Red Bull if it would sell better. Yadda yadda yadda. How dare public safety and public resources be of primary concern!
 
2013-01-10 10:54:15 PM  

Giltric: willfullyobscure: Giltric: willfullyobscure: I hope your mother is front row and center for the next public Klebolding

Wow someone has a case of the violent fantasies...and it unsuprisingly comes from a rabid anti RKBAer.

What does RKBA stand for?

How do you keep an asshole in suspense?


I do it by trolling them. YMMV
 
2013-01-10 10:54:28 PM  

crabsno termites: Let me tell you what automatic weapons did for me: Went to RVN with M14's, one A2 (auto) per squad. Replaced with M16's. INSTANT, COMPLETE loss of any fire control. Ask anyone who had green tabs. Useless except under controlled conditions.


I fully agree, full auto is terrible in practice, but that doesn't justify making them illegal. If people want them they should still be able to buy them, unless they're serious violent offenders.

crabsno termites: The inability to rationally consider any other position is intolerance.


I considered your position, then used facts to refute it. I think that's rational, no?

crabsno termites: Ever been in combat (not snarking)


Nope, and I hope I never am.

crabsno termites: I currently own 9 shotguns, 1 drielling (never could spell in German), one rifle, and three handguns (with ccp), so do support 2nd amendment, but will reiterate: ther is no legitimate use for automatic weapons outside the military, and limited use there.


There's no legitimate use for a car that goes over the speed limit, or one that can do 0-60 in 3 seconds. There's arguably no legitimate use for alcohol, violent movies or some forms of art. The thing is though, that people enjoy those things, and the pursuit of happiness, as long as it doesn't infringe upon another person's rights, shouldn't be infringed. If owning a full auto gun is what makes someone happy, and they're responsible, I don't think anyone should have the right to deny them that right.
 
2013-01-10 10:54:34 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Long experience with firearms should carry some weight in this discussion. You were bloviating about Amendment II conferring an unlimited personal right, weren't you? Because the first four words of Amendment II tend to give my (and crabsno termite's) take on it a bit more credence, given the way the Founders implemented Article I Section 8 Clauses 14-16 of the Constitution in 1792.


I love the idea that only the military, under control of the federal government, can have certain firearms and only when the government says so. Nothing in the history of the constitution nor the amendments to it suggests that to be true.

Congress may be able to dictate standards that the militia must meet, but nothing in those powers gives Congress any power whatsoever in forbidding the possessing of arms byt he people.
 
2013-01-10 10:54:36 PM  

Silly Jesus: So if we make them pink and shaped like a unicorn the libs might stop shiatting themselves?


Yeah, you brave defenders against tyranny would just as well wield a pink rifle as a black one. It's just a tool. You woudn't care.

Cuz you're not posing at all. Nope,

You are serious, fearsome warriors.l
www.inquisitr.com
 
2013-01-10 10:55:05 PM  

Dimensio: HideAndGoFarkYourself: Not to mention that somewhere, somebody is dialing 911 with an actual emergency, and their help is being delayed because these two jackwagons want to walk around carrying AR-15's and wagging their dicks around.

A local police officer informed me that he prefers citizens to carry concealed for the specific reason that legally openly carried firearms may cause observers unfamiliar with the law to contact and thus waste the resources of emergency services. That explanation prompted me to obtain a holster that more effectively conceals my firearm when cycling, as until then I had worn a holster that was frequently exposed, inadvertently, when I cycled.


Wow. A sane post, and poster, in this thread. Impressed.
 
2013-01-10 10:55:10 PM  

pedrop357: So, a cosmetic ban?


Yes. This should be banned.
ep.yimg.com

/CO2 BB gun
 
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