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(KPTV Portland)   Two men go walking in Portland, OR with loaded assault rifles strapped to their backs to "educate" general public. Hilarity ensues   (kptv.com ) divider line
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2013-01-10 10:05:58 PM  

spamdog: I would be more alarmed about a single person brandishing a rifle than a pair.


A pair of rifles? Yeah hard to aim.
 
2013-01-10 10:06:09 PM  

I_C_Weener: SlothB77: [kptv.images.worldnow.com image 645x362]

if that was walking down the street, i'd be a little freaked out too.

Agreed.  I'm all pro 2d Amendment but if you see someone walking around like that, you think school shooting, armed robbery...not...harmless stroll for a donut.


Sounds like a personal problem to me...

Or should we make a law so that you don't have to think?
 
2013-01-10 10:06:38 PM  

fusillade762: The rifle was designed for combat. Nothing else. What should we call it?


Call it what it is: a semi-automatic rifle.

Even DailyKOS knows this:
"To qualify as an "assault rifle" a rifle has to fit certain criteria: first, it is a small, light caliber because a small, light caliber allows you to carry a lot of bullets, both in size/volume and weight. Secondly, it is capable of firing full-auto fire, and doing so with some reasonable degree of accuracy & controllability. The smaller caliber bullet makes recoil less of a problem, and it is easier to retain control on full-auto. The problem is, civilian "assault rifles" are not capable of firing full-auto without extensive and very dangerous modifications. More later. First, let's define why full-auto is there."
 
2013-01-10 10:07:59 PM  

serial_crusher: The men told officers they were hoping to educate the public about gun rights.
...
Officers said carrying firearms openly is legal

Sounds like the public needed a little education in that department.


Because, of course, it is unpossible for anyone to do something legal that looks a hell of a lot like they're planning to do something illegal. Why, if I saw a nice young man at the store with wild eyes and unkempt hair buying rope, a shovel, a hunting knife, and various sex toys, I wouldn't feel threatened at  all, since it's completely legal to do all of the above!
 
2013-01-10 10:07:59 PM  

Giltric: davidphogan: and likely kidnapping as well.

federal charge or does it have to be acorss state lines.

Would they consider that a crime with a gun because that carries an additional minimum sentence.

I hope the farker means it and is not some ITG...cause I love it when a plan falls apart and we can get a chuckle out of it at their expense.


Oregon has kidnapping laws that would apply, not sure when Federal laws on that would kick in.
 
2013-01-10 10:08:03 PM  

Haliburton Cummings: [i.imgur.com image 480x372]
gun nuts with sprinkles on top


No way that dude is only 23
 
2013-01-10 10:08:08 PM  

fusillade762: YouPeopleAreCrazy: jaytkay: So we aren't versed in gun wanker minutia.

And you are.

Congratulations!!

The point is, both of those rifles are functionally no different than the AR-15's carried by the two idiots in the article. No matter how evil they look.

'Scary looking' does not equal 'assault'.

The rifle was designed for combat. Nothing else. What should we call it?


Better tell the Olympic committee to stop using those guns incorrectly then. They should know that they can't shoot targets with them, only people. Silly athletes.
 
2013-01-10 10:08:35 PM  
I usually snark on this site, but not this time.

My background: Country boy (Okie), working class family, grew up hunting, fishing, camping. High school, lumberjacked a while, 3 years army (vietnam 1965 - 1967, almost 2 years, all with a line company), college, graduate school, family, career (management the whole time, walked away from corporate life, started small business, got tired of it, sold out, bought farm/ranch, got West Nile virus, sold ranch, retired. Old.

When home from RVN, realized didn't want to kill anything big, quit hunting. For 12 years, only picked up gun to move it out of way.

1980, started hunting again, only birds. If I kill it, I eat it. Joined NRA, went through course and got instructor certification (rifle, pistol, shotgun, home security). Hunter safety instructor in Iowa.

C. Heston, W. LaPierre take over NRA, I watch for a while. Meet LaP at a soiree in DC, decide that, other than Robert Bork, most arrogant, self-serving, irrational person ever met. Quit NRA @ 1985. Still hunt because there a few things more delicious than a well prepared bird, and I enjoy it. Killing a bird is challenging and not the most important part of hunting them - I can buy a chicken/duck/turkey cheaper than I can hunt them.


Observations/opinions: 1. The current attitude of the management or the NRA is unreasonable and self-defeating, will ultimately lead to the destruction of the organization. Does not reflect the views of the majority of the members, rather that of the big money (firearm manufacturers).

2. No civilian needs a firearm with more than 5 rounds capacity. If you can't accomplish your goal with 5 round, you need more practice.

3. No one other than the military (to include civilian law enforcement) should be allowed to possess automatic weapons.

Editorial: So much anger/ignorance/intolerance on both sides. How stupid we all are.

Could go on ad nauseum, but need another G&T.
 
2013-01-10 10:09:13 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Dimensio: AdmirableSnackbar: pedrop357: Silly Jesus: Libs are extremely scared of inanimate objects. Kinds sad, actually.

When everything is emotions and feelings, it's not surprising. A more logical person would do a quickie analysis and just move on.

I'm not afraid of guns. I'm afraid of the mentally unstable, irresponsible idiots like the ones in TFA owning them.

The subjects of the article were irresponsible, but no data yet justifies a claim of mental instability.

The concept of walking around with your buddy armed in such a way in an area other than an active war zone does not occur - or does not appear reasonable - to anyone who is mentally stable. Mostly because it's completely irresponsible.


Irresponsible in what sense? They could have predicted that 911 would be tied up with bet-wetters, other than that I don't see "irresponsible."
 
2013-01-10 10:09:35 PM  

brandent: spamdog: I would be more alarmed about a single person brandishing a rifle than a pair.

A pair of rifles? Yeah hard to aim.


Its alot easier hanging upside down, tangled in a rope while using 2 pistols.

www.imfdb.org
 
2013-01-10 10:09:59 PM  

Funbags: Plop these guys down in a "stand your ground" state, and watch them ditch those rifles in some random alley post-haste.


came here to say this.
 
2013-01-10 10:10:53 PM  

I_C_Weener: SlothB77: [kptv.images.worldnow.com image 645x362]

if that was walking down the street, i'd be a little freaked out too.

Agreed.  I'm all pro 2d Amendment but if you see someone walking around like that, you think school shooting, armed robbery...not...harmless stroll for a donut.


I dunno. The lines at Voodoo Donuts can be unbearably long and they play their music way too loud. Plus, it's such a cult thing that every visitor "has" to go there, making it navel-gazing decision time when they finally get to the counter. And then they have to take pics with their cell phones. It was like living next to the goddamn Eiffel Tower only with a maple scent wafting through the air. I can see how it would test one's patience, especially if you're trying to get a donut and there's a wedding going on at the same time there.
 
2013-01-10 10:11:18 PM  
MORONS!

And how are people supposed to know they're not crazy? Aren't these the same kind of people that blame bad early warning and early response systems for public shootings? Yet they see nothing wrong with this? What's the proper response, in their eyes, to a situation like this? Apparently it's walk up and talk to a gun-toting stranger to find out if they're dangerous! Seriously??? I guess the test of when concealed carriers can start shooting people with guns in public is either to walk up and make yourself a target, or wait until they kill someone first. How farking stupid can you get?!
 
2013-01-10 10:11:30 PM  

Dimensio: whither_apophis: Well you'd do more due diligence than cops in Florida, which brings me back to my first question. Do you skip Florida tags?

I do not intentionally overlook all headlines tagged with the "Florida" tag, but I also do not read all discussions on Fark.

A failure of police to adequately investigate a use of deadly force is not equivalent to a deadly force statute authorizing deadly force in public for reasons other than a reasonable belief of imminent death or bodily injury.


Since the police are the legal entity charged with investigation into use of deadly force in public in cases where a person used deadly force if that person reasonably believed it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony, any lack of effort on the part of the police has the net effect of rendering any statute meaningless.

/that's kinda fun, I see why you post like that.
 
2013-01-10 10:11:36 PM  

Silly Jesus: I_C_Weener: SlothB77: [kptv.images.worldnow.com image 645x362]

if that was walking down the street, i'd be a little freaked out too.

Agreed.  I'm all pro 2d Amendment but if you see someone walking around like that, you think school shooting, armed robbery...not...harmless stroll for a donut.

Sounds like a personal problem to me...

Or should we make a law so that you don't have to think?


Well, I don't think it means you have to get aggressive and up in my face about a post.  I'm not comfortable around guns.  I find people who carry them as a matter of course to be strange.  I don't think it should be outlawed, but yes, I'd inquire with the cops as to what the hell was going on.  And I'd be very happy if they checked these gentlemen out to make sure they were just attention whoring and not something worse.

You don't have to like it.  But it isn't normal to walk around with a rifle slung over you back just because you can.  I'd be weirded out if you had a claymore on your back and were just trying to "educate" the masses by walking down Sunnyside street.

To claim this isn't weird and intended to shock and get the response they got is being disingenuous.
 
2013-01-10 10:12:18 PM  
See? This is why concealed carry should be banned: You can identify the idiots from a distance.
 
2013-01-10 10:13:33 PM  

Nestchick: I_C_Weener: SlothB77: [kptv.images.worldnow.com image 645x362]

if that was walking down the street, i'd be a little freaked out too.

Agreed.  I'm all pro 2d Amendment but if you see someone walking around like that, you think school shooting, armed robbery...not...harmless stroll for a donut.

I dunno. The lines at Voodoo Donuts can be unbearably long and they play their music way too loud. Plus, it's such a cult thing that every visitor "has" to go there, making it navel-gazing decision time when they finally get to the counter. And then they have to take pics with their cell phones. It was like living next to the goddamn Eiffel Tower only with a maple scent wafting through the air. I can see how it would test one's patience, especially if you're trying to get a donut and there's a wedding going on at the same time there.


This is why I drive a bulldozer.  Nobody screws with a man driving a CAT
 
2013-01-10 10:13:47 PM  

Demonrats: willfullyobscure: If I had a CCW and a weapon, and I saw this, i would draw, order them them to freeze and call the cops, and I would hold them at gunpoint and shoot to kill if they didn't comply. And, I'd get away scot free, and the cops would send me a Christmas card.

You also may be sued for unlawful use of a firearm by threatening them. How could you feel threatened by two guys walking around with neither hand on their guns, acting non-agressively, and obeying all laws. If they drew on you that is one thing, but when in Rome...


They look like farking Klebold and Harris, that's why. One of them is dressed like a farking haji on the warpath for farks sake. People are getting shot to death going to the mall and watching a movie, for farks sake, by damaged units THAT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THESE GUYS. If I see a black dude with his pants around his asshole and a bandanna over his face I'm gonna go ahead and assume that motherfarker isn't up to any good either, do you have a problem with that?

I wouldn't even need a lawyer, I'd show the judge a cell phone pic and he'd have them committed and give me a gift card to Applebees.
 
2013-01-10 10:14:15 PM  

crabsno termites: I usually snark on this site, but not this time.

My background: Country boy (Okie), working class family, grew up hunting, fishing, camping. High school, lumberjacked a while, 3 years army (vietnam 1965 - 1967, almost 2 years, all with a line company), college, graduate school, family, career (management the whole time, walked away from corporate life, started small business, got tired of it, sold out, bought farm/ranch, got West Nile virus, sold ranch, retired. Old.

When home from RVN, realized didn't want to kill anything big, quit hunting. For 12 years, only picked up gun to move it out of way.

1980, started hunting again, only birds. If I kill it, I eat it. Joined NRA, went through course and got instructor certification (rifle, pistol, shotgun, home security). Hunter safety instructor in Iowa.

C. Heston, W. LaPierre take over NRA, I watch for a while. Meet LaP at a soiree in DC, decide that, other than Robert Bork, most arrogant, self-serving, irrational person ever met. Quit NRA @ 1985. Still hunt because there a few things more delicious than a well prepared bird, and I enjoy it. Killing a bird is challenging and not the most important part of hunting them - I can buy a chicken/duck/turkey cheaper than I can hunt them.


Observations/opinions: 1. The current attitude of the management or the NRA is unreasonable and self-defeating, will ultimately lead to the destruction of the organization. Does not reflect the views of the majority of the members, rather that of the big money (firearm manufacturers).

2. No civilian needs a firearm with more than 5 rounds capacity. If you can't accomplish your goal with 5 round, you need more practice.

Read the article about the lady in Atlanta a couple days ago who had a thug break into her home when she was there alone with her young kids. She hid in a closet and when he found her she shot him 5 times (all of her bullets) in the face at close range and he was still able to leave the home and drive partially down the road before collapsing. He happened to be alone. What if he wasn't?

3. No one other than the military (to include civilian law enforcement) should be allowed to possess automatic weapons.

Editorial: So much anger/ignorance/intolerance on both sides. How stupid we all are.

Could go on ad nauseum ...

 
2013-01-10 10:14:21 PM  
Maybe they were just on their way to see a movie.
 
2013-01-10 10:14:23 PM  

crabsno termites: I usually snark on this site, but not this time.


Well, at least we know you don't support the second amendment, and your opinions aren't derived from facts. I believe there have only been 2 illegal killings with full auto weapons since the 30's, and the 5 round capacity limit assumes the 2nd amendment is solely for hunting, which it is not.
 
2013-01-10 10:15:19 PM  

Dimensio: AdmirableSnackbar: Dimensio: AdmirableSnackbar: pedrop357: Silly Jesus: Libs are extremely scared of inanimate objects. Kinds sad, actually.

When everything is emotions and feelings, it's not surprising. A more logical person would do a quickie analysis and just move on.

I'm not afraid of guns. I'm afraid of the mentally unstable, irresponsible idiots like the ones in TFA owning them.

The subjects of the article were irresponsible, but no data yet justifies a claim of mental instability.

The concept of walking around with your buddy armed in such a way in an area other than an active war zone does not occur - or does not appear reasonable - to anyone who is mentally stable. Mostly because it's completely irresponsible.

Mental instability is substantially more narrowly defined than being of a propensity to engage in irresponsible behaviour. I would consider any parent who chose to use homeopathic remedies, eschewing actual medicine, upon their children to be irresponsible but I would not consider such a choice to be indicative of mental instability. Similarly, I believe that the actions of the two individuals mentioned in the article to be irresponsible, but without further data I cannot reasonably conclude them to be mentally unstable.


Walking around in a public area with a weapon similar to (or exactly the same as) one used in multiple recent mass shootings in public areas - and with apparel that could be used to conceal one's identity - is absolutely a warning sign of instability. Going into town like that there are quite a lot of bad things that could happen as a result and very, very few good things. Nobody who is mentally stable would intentionally create that kind of a situation.
 
2013-01-10 10:15:22 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Maybe they were just on their way to see a movie.


Or have lunch with their kids at the local elementary school.
 
2013-01-10 10:15:50 PM  

DoctorOfLove: All well and good, but were they zionist assault rifles?


if somebody doesn't start posting those pictures of Israeli army women i'm going bed.
 
2013-01-10 10:15:58 PM  

whither_apophis: Dimensio: whither_apophis: Well you'd do more due diligence than cops in Florida, which brings me back to my first question. Do you skip Florida tags?

I do not intentionally overlook all headlines tagged with the "Florida" tag, but I also do not read all discussions on Fark.

A failure of police to adequately investigate a use of deadly force is not equivalent to a deadly force statute authorizing deadly force in public for reasons other than a reasonable belief of imminent death or bodily injury.

Since the police are the legal entity charged with investigation into use of deadly force in public in cases where a person used deadly force if that person reasonably believed it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony, any lack of effort on the part of the police has the net effect of rendering any statute meaningless.


If police are failing to adequately investigate uses of deadly force, then a legislative mandate establishing minimum investigative standards is warranted.


/that's kinda fun, I see why you post like that.

While my writing style is arguably "stilted", I believe that I have reduced the potential for ambiguity in my statements.
 
2013-01-10 10:16:02 PM  

I_C_Weener: This is why I drive a bulldozer. Nobody screws with a man driving a CAT


They do when you under bid them and get the job.

been there, done that,

had a union moron who was tryng to sabotage my excavators at gunpoint till the cops showed up.
 
2013-01-10 10:16:18 PM  

lordjupiter: MORONS!

And how are people supposed to know they're not crazy? Aren't these the same kind of people that blame bad early warning and early response systems for public shootings? Yet they see nothing wrong with this? What's the proper response, in their eyes, to a situation like this? Apparently it's walk up and talk to a gun-toting stranger to find out if they're dangerous! Seriously??? I guess the test of when concealed carriers can start shooting people with guns in public is either to walk up and make yourself a target, or wait until they kill someone first. How farking stupid can you get?!


What about open carry of any other gun? As in a holster? Or are you just clutching your pearls because these particular inanimate objects are big and scary looking?
 
2013-01-10 10:16:39 PM  

caddisfly: Lsherm: Open carry if you aren't hunting makes you an attention whore.

Absolutely. One of the guys also has a youtube channel that is nothing but him walking around with guns and provoking cops to stop him.

Why is it that the least of us always seek the most attention?


I don't know if it's the same dude, but I've seen a video like that before. Guy was wearing a handgun openly and a cop stopped and politely asked him about it. The officer couldn't have been more calm and courteous, but the idiot provocateur was borderline hysterical about his rights being violated and refused even to provide his name.

There are times I wish "gross attention whoring" was a crime.
 
2013-01-10 10:16:39 PM  

crabsno termites: I usually snark on this site, but not this time.

My background: Country boy (Okie), working class family, grew up hunting, fishing, camping. High school, lumberjacked a while, 3 years army (vietnam 1965 - 1967, almost 2 years, all with a line company), college, graduate school, family, career (management the whole time, walked away from corporate life, started small business, got tired of it, sold out, bought farm/ranch, got West Nile virus, sold ranch, retired. Old.

When home from RVN, realized didn't want to kill anything big, quit hunting. For 12 years, only picked up gun to move it out of way.

1980, started hunting again, only birds. If I kill it, I eat it. Joined NRA, went through course and got instructor certification (rifle, pistol, shotgun, home security). Hunter safety instructor in Iowa.

C. Heston, W. LaPierre take over NRA, I watch for a while. Meet LaP at a soiree in DC, decide that, other than Robert Bork, most arrogant, self-serving, irrational person ever met. Quit NRA @ 1985. Still hunt because there a few things more delicious than a well prepared bird, and I enjoy it. Killing a bird is challenging and not the most important part of hunting them - I can buy a chicken/duck/turkey cheaper than I can hunt them.


Observations/opinions: 1. The current attitude of the management or the NRA is unreasonable and self-defeating, will ultimately lead to the destruction of the organization. Does not reflect the views of the majority of the members, rather that of the big money (firearm manufacturers).

2. No civilian needs a firearm with more than 5 rounds capacity. If you can't accomplish your goal with 5 round, you need more practice.

3. No one other than the military (to include civilian law enforcement) should be allowed to possess automatic weapons.

Editorial: So much anger/ignorance/intolerance on both sides. How stupid we all are.

Could go on ad nauseum ...


For a while there, I thought I was alone.

/Veteran.
//Not Vietnam.
 
2013-01-10 10:16:57 PM  
Hats off to the cops for playing it cool with these guys. Good work.

Citizens calling 911 need to turn off their TV sets and actually "read" the legal code where they live instead of just assuming they know it.
 
2013-01-10 10:17:07 PM  

FlashHarry: Funbags: Plop these guys down in a "stand your ground" state, and watch them ditch those rifles in some random alley post-haste.

came here to say this.


Umm, guys? Oregon has a stand your ground law. Know your rights.
 
2013-01-10 10:17:23 PM  

lordjupiter: And how are people supposed to know they're not crazy? Aren't these the same kind of people that blame bad early warning and early response systems for public shootings? Yet they see nothing wrong with this? What's the proper response, in their eyes, to a situation like this? Apparently it's walk up and talk to a gun-toting stranger to find out if they're dangerous! Seriously??? I guess the test of when concealed carriers can start shooting people with guns in public is either to walk up and make yourself a target, or wait until they kill someone first. How farking stupid can you get?!


"Situation"? You've really taken the whole "Don't talk to strangers" thing way too far.
 
2013-01-10 10:17:37 PM  

Giltric: I_C_Weener: This is why I drive a bulldozer. Nobody screws with a man driving a CAT

They do when you under bid them and get the job.

been there, done that,

had a union moron who was tryng to sabotage my excavators at gunpoint till the cops showed up.


Psst!  I was joking.  I don't drive a bulldozer as my personal vehicle...or otherwise.  That would be crazy.  It'd take all day to get across town...even if I took a direct route through houses.
 
2013-01-10 10:18:25 PM  

willfullyobscure: Demonrats: willfullyobscure: If I had a CCW and a weapon, and I saw this, i would draw, order them them to freeze and call the cops, and I would hold them at gunpoint and shoot to kill if they didn't comply. And, I'd get away scot free, and the cops would send me a Christmas card.

You also may be sued for unlawful use of a firearm by threatening them. How could you feel threatened by two guys walking around with neither hand on their guns, acting non-agressively, and obeying all laws. If they drew on you that is one thing, but when in Rome...

They look like farking Klebold and Harris, that's why. One of them is dressed like a farking haji on the warpath for farks sake. People are getting shot to death going to the mall and watching a movie, for farks sake, by damaged units THAT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THESE GUYS. If I see a black dude with his pants around his asshole and a bandanna over his face I'm gonna go ahead and assume that motherfarker isn't up to any good either, do you have a problem with that?

I wouldn't even need a lawyer, I'd show the judge a cell phone pic and he'd have them committed and give me a gift card to Applebees.


If you actually believe that enjoy your time in prison.
 
2013-01-10 10:18:37 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Two more farking idiots that make actual responsible gun owners look like lunatics heard from.


FTFY.

The guy who called these morons attention whores had it right.
 
2013-01-10 10:19:11 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Walking around in a public area with a weapon similar to (or exactly the same as) one used in multiple recent mass shootings in public areas - and with apparel that could be used to conceal one's identity - is absolutely a warning sign of instability. Going into town like that there are quite a lot of bad things that could happen as a result and very, very few good things. Nobody who is mentally stable would intentionally create that kind of a situation.


Your psychology credentials, now please.

This is LEGAL in their state. It's amazing how many of you claim they're unbalanced for exercising a legal right. How brainwashed are you people?
 
2013-01-10 10:19:30 PM  

Haliburton Cummings: [i.imgur.com image 480x372]
gun nuts with sprinkles on top


Hey you found Dimensio's picture.
 
2013-01-10 10:20:26 PM  

I_C_Weener: Giltric: I_C_Weener: This is why I drive a bulldozer. Nobody screws with a man driving a CAT

They do when you under bid them and get the job.

been there, done that,

had a union moron who was tryng to sabotage my excavators at gunpoint till the cops showed up.

Psst!  I was joking.  I don't drive a bulldozer as my personal vehicle...or otherwise.  That would be crazy.  It'd take all day to get across town...even if I took a direct route through houses.


I didn't think you were talking about using it to commute heh. I thought you were an operator.

they get terrible mileage and tear up the macadam...

been there done that too

/whistled and slinked away hoping noone noticed
 
2013-01-10 10:20:31 PM  
Silly Jesus:

BraveNewCheneyWorld:

Editorial: So much anger/ignorance/intolerance on both sides. How stupid we all are.

Thank you for making my point.
 
2013-01-10 10:20:40 PM  

Haliburton Cummings: [i.imgur.com image 480x372]
gun nuts with sprinkles on top


I will never get tired of seeing that guy on the internet.
acecomputers-tn.com
 
2013-01-10 10:20:49 PM  

studebaker hoch: Hats off to the cops for playing it cool with these guys. Good work.

Citizens calling 911 need to turn off their TV sets and actually "read" the legal code where they live instead of just assuming they know it.


Try living in Vegas where open carry is legal, and everyone from California and other parts are constantly calling Metro about an armed man walking down the street.

No, I don't open carry, but have to listen to the OC crowd out here who does.
 
2013-01-10 10:21:00 PM  

I_C_Weener: Silly Jesus: I_C_Weener: SlothB77: [kptv.images.worldnow.com image 645x362]

if that was walking down the street, i'd be a little freaked out too.

Agreed.  I'm all pro 2d Amendment but if you see someone walking around like that, you think school shooting, armed robbery...not...harmless stroll for a donut.

Sounds like a personal problem to me...

Or should we make a law so that you don't have to think?

Well, I don't think it means you have to get aggressive and up in my face about a post. Sowwy. I'm not comfortable around guns. Learn about them. Go to a range. Hold one. They really aren't scary. I find people who carry them as a matter of course to be strange. And I the opposite. I don't think it should be outlawed, but yes, I'd inquire with the cops as to what the hell was going on.  And I'd be very happy if they checked these gentlemen out to make sure they were just attention whoring and not something worse.The cops can't really just go up and check people out who aren't doing anything wrong. The could have just kept walking if they wanted to.

You don't have to like it.  But it isn't normal to walk around with a rifle slung over you back just because you can.  I'd be weirded out if you had a claymore on your back and were just trying to "educate" the masses by walking down Sunnyside street. Legal vs. illegal.

To claim this isn't weird and intended to shock and get the response they got is being disingenuous.

"Weird" only in the sense that it's rare. They could have also just been ignorant as to how much pearl clutching would occur. Maybe they naively thought that people would be open minded and talk to them about the inanimate objects on their back and all but inaccessible to them for nefarious purposes.

 
2013-01-10 10:21:18 PM  
i86.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-10 10:21:23 PM  
you're not helping.jpg
 
2013-01-10 10:21:39 PM  
Wayne 985

I don't know if it's the same dude, but I've seen a video like that before. Guy was wearing a handgun openly and a cop stopped and politely asked him about it. The officer couldn't have been more calm and courteous, but the idiot provocateur was borderline hysterical about his rights being violated and refused even to provide his name.

We've probably seen the same video. I get the impression that some of these people do this shiat a lot, and the cops have been briefed on how to handle it. I'm usually the typical Fark cop-hater, but respect where respect is due...the cops handle a lot of these taped situations like farking PR pros. Completely courteous, polite and reasonable.
 
2013-01-10 10:22:19 PM  

whither_apophis: And if a concerned citizen took them out with a .243 from 250 yards everyone would be cool with that right?


Mmmmm..... I doubt whether you could find a concerned citizen, who was trained in the use of firepower at 1250 feet, who would actually take proactive action with determining that the men were actually a threat. At least, none of the people I know that have firearms would be so excitable.

But then again, perhaps your friends are the excitable sort.
 
2013-01-10 10:22:23 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: crabsno termites: I usually snark on this site, but not this time.

Well, at least we know you don't support the second amendment, and your opinions aren't derived from facts. I believe there have only been 2 illegal killings with full auto weapons since the 30's, and the 5 round capacity limit assumes the 2nd amendment is solely for hunting, which it is not.


Well, you have two votes here against your interpretation from people who stuck their right paws up in the air and swore an oath and put their own lives on the line for the Constitution.

Have you been drilling with the village Militia?
 
2013-01-10 10:22:24 PM  

Silly Jesus: lordjupiter: MORONS!

And how are people supposed to know they're not crazy? Aren't these the same kind of people that blame bad early warning and early response systems for public shootings? Yet they see nothing wrong with this? What's the proper response, in their eyes, to a situation like this? Apparently it's walk up and talk to a gun-toting stranger to find out if they're dangerous! Seriously??? I guess the test of when concealed carriers can start shooting people with guns in public is either to walk up and make yourself a target, or wait until they kill someone first. How farking stupid can you get?!

What about open carry of any other gun? As in a holster? Or are you just clutching your pearls because these particular inanimate objects are big and scary looking?


They fit the EXACT stereotype of every spree shooter in the last few months. These two dickheads LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THE KILLERS. God it makes me sick to have to type that out. We're at a point where young white men are killing people by the scores and dozens every fiscal quarter and somehow, some way, on God's green earth, you can pretend nothing's gone wrong? I hope your mother is front row and center for the next public Klebolding.
 
2013-01-10 10:22:26 PM  

Giltric: I_C_Weener: Giltric: I_C_Weener: This is why I drive a bulldozer. Nobody screws with a man driving a CAT

They do when you under bid them and get the job.

been there, done that,

had a union moron who was tryng to sabotage my excavators at gunpoint till the cops showed up.

Psst!  I was joking.  I don't drive a bulldozer as my personal vehicle...or otherwise.  That would be crazy.  It'd take all day to get across town...even if I took a direct route through houses.

I didn't think you were talking about using it to commute heh. I thought you were an operator.

they get terrible mileage and tear up the macadam...

been there done that too

/whistled and slinked away hoping noone noticed


Nah.  I just play one on Fark.  :)  i have fanatasized about being able to bulldoze traffic before though.
 
2013-01-10 10:22:28 PM  
demaL-demaL-yeH:

There a a few of us, so there may be hope. My hat to you, sir.
 
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