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(CBS News)   If the flu doesn't kill you, the Tylenol you took to treat it might. Regardless, EVERYBODY PANIC   (cbsnews.com) divider line 151
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2013-01-10 05:22:48 PM
FTFA: The flu is affecting more people than anticipated this season, and many sufferers are scouting drugstore isles in search of remedies to help combat the illness.

Drugstore isles?  Isles?  Really, CBS?
 
2013-01-10 05:42:12 PM
Infant tylenol was what you did for fevery babies when my oldest was born. Now it's NEVER GIVE TO BABIES! BAD!

Scary, that stuff.
 
2013-01-10 05:42:41 PM

eraser8: FTFA: The flu is affecting more people than anticipated this season, and many sufferers are scouting drugstore isles in search of remedies to help combat the illness.

Drugstore isles?  Isles?  Really, CBS?


Makes it tougher for meth heads to get Sudafed if they have to swim to get it.
 
2013-01-10 05:58:31 PM
This is not a repeat from 1982.
 
2013-01-10 06:01:58 PM
Two weeks of flu symptoms and counting. ugh.
 
2013-01-10 06:20:11 PM

namegoeshere: Infant tylenol was what you did for fevery babies when my oldest was born. Now it's NEVER GIVE TO BABIES! BAD!

Scary, that stuff.


Until it's okay again, like drinking while pregnant.
 
2013-01-10 06:36:56 PM
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2013-01-10 06:50:40 PM

namegoeshere: Infant tylenol was what you did for fevery babies when my oldest was born. Now it's NEVER GIVE TO BABIES! BAD!

Scary, that stuff.


Yeah, that's because idiot parents can't be trusted to READ A FARKING LABEL! Hell I'm sure someone figured out a way to just hook a nipple to the bottle and let the kids drink away the pain, until they actually did.
 
2013-01-10 06:55:07 PM
Yeah, this comes up all the time, it is basically just the "just about all cold medicines have tylenol in it, so, if you take a bunch of stuff and don't realize that, you'll OD".
 
2013-01-10 06:56:17 PM

dletter: Yeah, this comes up all the time, it is basically just the "just about all cold medicines have tylenol in it, so, if you take a bunch of stuff and don't realize that, you'll OD".


Which sucks for me, because I am allergic to acetaminophen. Hooray.
 
2013-01-10 06:57:33 PM
Former co-worker went to a bowl game in FL years ago. Died in his sleep at the hotel. Cause: Alcohol and Tylenol.
 
2013-01-10 06:57:42 PM
No worries about the flu, I was vaccinated in November.

The autism is kind of a drag, though.
 
2013-01-10 06:58:43 PM
everything i need to know in life i learned from erowid + lycaeum ?

thank goodness i'm a mormon, now.
 
2013-01-10 06:59:26 PM

blatz514: Makes it tougher for meth heads to get Sudafed if they have to swim to get it.


i lol'ed.
 
2013-01-10 07:00:44 PM
would be so much safer if they just replaced it with Oxycodone
 
2013-01-10 07:01:23 PM
This isn't regular media over-reaction. Too much Tylenol really will hurt you.
 
2013-01-10 07:04:15 PM
Watch out for rye syndrome.

thumbs.ifood.tv

You get crumbs in your bed.
 
2013-01-10 07:04:21 PM
Pfft.. I just drink Jameson till I feel better.

/'scuse me, feeling a touch under the weather
 
2013-01-10 07:05:49 PM
FTA: "Make sure that they aren't taking two different ones at the same time," Gardenier said. "If your child is small, you can't give a small child an adult dose. Always check with your pediatric provider." [...]
First, always read and follow the label. Taking more than the recommended dose or using a different measuring system -- for example, a spoon instead of the provided measuring cup -- can be dangerous.


Translation: Hurr durr derp dee durr. I'ma gonna measure my medicine by the bucketfull and give it to my newborn. durrrrrrr.
 
2013-01-10 07:06:05 PM
Here's the deal people. The therapeutic index (TI) of Tylenol is about 4. What this means is that the dose needed to produce a toxic effect (for Tylenol, it's the liver) is only 4 times greater than the dose needed for medicinal effects. That ratio is absolutely horrible. Normally, we want something that has a TI of 100 or more. The larger the TI, the better.

Oh, and if you are ever thinking of committing suicide via Tylenol, don't. Liver failure is a very painful way to die, and it takes days. Also, if you're an alcoholic, I strongly recommend that you avoid Tylenol or any other product that has acetaminophen (aka paracetamol) in it.

/Toxicologist
 
2013-01-10 07:06:33 PM
Talk about a bitter pill to swallow.
 
2013-01-10 07:07:40 PM

From the article:

"Make sure that they aren't taking two different ones at the same time," Gardenier said. "If your child is small, you can't give a small child an adult dose. Always check with your pediatric provider."
 
2013-01-10 07:09:10 PM
My body decided to go hipster and get me Bronchitis instead of the Flu everyone else is getting.
 
2013-01-10 07:09:36 PM
Tylenol will do more damage to your liver then drink a truck load of PBR or Bud Lite.
 
2013-01-10 07:12:43 PM
Yeah, I stopped buying Tylenol years ago because it's in everything. Aspirin is pretty good for most things plus it has several beneficial side effects, and ibuprofen is a better pain killer.
 
2013-01-10 07:13:14 PM
A friend of mine sells a tylenol alternative:  shameless plug

;)
 
2013-01-10 07:13:15 PM

lousyskater: My body decided to go hipster and get me Bronchitis instead of the Flu everyone else is getting.


I lol'ed.
 
2013-01-10 07:14:33 PM
In large enough amounts, one can overdose on water; I guess we should all stop drinking the stuff. Durrrr.
 
2013-01-10 07:15:01 PM

Qwertyette: FTA: "Make sure that they aren't taking two different ones at the same time," Gardenier said. "If your child is small, you can't give a small child an adult dose. Always check with your pediatric provider." [...]
First, always read and follow the label. Taking more than the recommended dose or using a different measuring system -- for example, a spoon instead of the provided measuring cup -- can be dangerous.


Translation: Hurr durr derp dee durr. I'ma gonna measure my medicine by the bucketfull and give it to my newborn. durrrrrrr.


You mock, but there are a lot of people out there who don't give asprin the respect it deserves just because you can buy it over the counter. I've heard more than one person say something to the effect of "If it could hurt me why can I buy it at the grocery store?"

I heard a doctor once say that if asprin were discovered today it would definitely be a controlled substance you needed a prescription for... but because it's been around for so long it's hard to put the genie back in the bottle.
 
2013-01-10 07:15:56 PM

3rdtimearound: would be so much safer if they just replaced it with Oxycodone


Your oxycodone probably has 300 to 500 mg of Tylenol in it already.
 
2013-01-10 07:16:16 PM

moefuggenbrew: A friend of mine sells a tylenol alternative:  shameless plug

;)


Apply directly to bank account!
 
2013-01-10 07:17:11 PM

eraser8: FTFA: The flu is affecting more people than anticipated this season, and many sufferers are scouting drugstore isles in search of remedies to help combat the illness.

Drugstore isles?  Isles?  Really, CBS?


Ahoy, mateys! We sail at high tide for CVS Cove. Yarrrr.
 
2013-01-10 07:18:02 PM

lousyskater: My body decided to go hipster and get me Bronchitis instead of the Flu everyone else is getting.


On the basis that a pork pie hat can hold a surprising amount of lung butter?
 
2013-01-10 07:19:05 PM

LordOfThePings: Watch out for rye syndrome.

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You get crumbs in your bed.


I want to bite that bread.
 
2013-01-10 07:20:34 PM
Every year it's the same old deal. Killer flu season. Killer West Nile Virus. Killer Hantavirus. Killer Norovirus. Killer Tylenol. Killer BEES ARE COMING TO THE UNITED STATES! Killer bees is my favorite scare tactic. I love reminding people that there can't be anyone left south of the border what with all those killer bees flying around down there.
 
2013-01-10 07:22:21 PM
Acetaminophen: The high fructose corn syrup of the pharmaceutical world.

mmm... liver damage.
 
2013-01-10 07:22:58 PM

moefuggenbrew: A friend of mine sells a tylenol alternative:  shameless plug

;)


It amazes me that in order to avoid the potential side effects of drugs like aspirin, tylenol, etc, people will turn to homeopathic, herbal or other products that have even less regulation and quality control. My stepmother won't eat fish for fear of mercury poisoning or eat GM foods for fear of becoming a zombie?, but she takes about 50 different herbal supplements with no FDA trials, no regulation for quality and no proof of any efficacy. Sorry, but your sketchy looking aspirin-juice does not look like something I want to rub all over.
 
2013-01-10 07:25:54 PM
I still can't believe that some people (especially those who drink) don't know how bad acetaminophen is for you.

And it is in almost everything. I think that it's not in the alka seltzer tabs, but other than that, I'm not sure what OTC cold medicine doesn't have it.

I drink way too much to take that shiat.
 
2013-01-10 07:26:02 PM
Do people really still use Tylenol? It does nothing for me.
 
2013-01-10 07:28:09 PM

utah dude: everything i need to know in life i learned from erowid + lycaeum ?

thank goodness i'm a mormon, now.


This just made my night.
 
2013-01-10 07:28:14 PM

Mr. Eugenides: 3rdtimearound: would be so much safer if they just replaced it with Oxycodone

Your oxycodone probably has 300 to 500 mg of Tylenol in it already.


Nah, you're thinking of Percocet
 
2013-01-10 07:28:54 PM

mgshamster: Here's the deal people. The therapeutic index (TI) of Tylenol is about 4. What this means is that the dose needed to produce a toxic effect (for Tylenol, it's the liver) is only 4 times greater than the dose needed for medicinal effects. That ratio is absolutely horrible. Normally, we want something that has a TI of 100 or more. The larger the TI, the better.

Oh, and if you are ever thinking of committing suicide via Tylenol, don't. Liver failure is a very painful way to die, and it takes days. Also, if you're an alcoholic, I strongly recommend that you avoid Tylenol or any other product that has acetaminophen (aka paracetamol) in it.

/Toxicologist


This really can't be stressed enough.

This shiat is the cause of more liver failures than anything. That includes alcohol and tylenol + alcohol incidents. And let's not forget how harsh it is on the kidneys too.

If you like to drink alcohol AT ALL (forget whether you are or are not an alcoholic) if you have more than 3 alcoholic beverages per week I would swear off of the stuff entirely. Along with any NSAIDs.

If it is so dangerous, why is it on the shelf and consumed in the quantities that it is?
Why do large banks seem to be immune to prosecutions?
 
2013-01-10 07:29:41 PM
I never take anything when I get sick. Almost anything you take is not good for you and just masks whatever problems you have, they certainly won't cure you.

With that said, I almost never get sick so maybe I'm biased towards toughing it out because it's not that big a deal. I have I have had one or two minor colds in the last 10 years.
 
2013-01-10 07:30:53 PM

lousyskater: My body decided to go hipster and get me Bronchitis instead of the Flu everyone else is getting.


I had bronchitis before it was mainstream.


/cough
//cough cough
//cough cough cough cough
///seriously, please make it go away.
 
2013-01-10 07:33:07 PM
It is super annoying to weed out the cold pills / syrups that don't have acetaminophen in them. Stuff must be cheap to manufacture or something, I can't figure out why almost every brand has it. Even more annoying that I can't buy pseudoephedrine OTC anymore.
 
2013-01-10 07:33:26 PM

MurphyMurphy: If it [Tylenol] is so dangerous, why is it on the shelf and consumed in the quantities that it is?


It was grandfathered in. When the FDA first started requiring safety testing on all drugs, any drugs that were currently on the market were considered safe by default. The logic was, "If they've been on the shelf this long and people aren't dying from them or suing companies for ill effects, they must be safe."

I doubt it would pass FDA regulations if it were a new drug brought to the market today.
 
Ral
2013-01-10 07:36:26 PM
I was on the jury of a court case that involved a situation of excessive acetaminophen intake. Yes, it will destroy your liver, but you have to take way more than the dose on the label and you have to do it for several weeks. If you stick to the dose instructions on the label, you'll be fine.
 
2013-01-10 07:37:16 PM
Trash article as are most pharmacology on newspaper websites.

Also, the current recommendation in the US is less than 3000 milligrams per day

Basic you should knows:

-not for children under 2
-talk to your doctor if you have liver or kidney issues. (actually get that physical with blood work now and then)
-not for alcohol drinkers
-read ingredients and precuations on your drugs. hydrocodone (Vicodin) contains acetaminophen and sometimes up to 750mg a pill. Do not take additional Tylenol if already taking hydrocodone unless told otherwise
-if any concerns at all talk to a pharmacist (yes, you can ask questions of a pharmacist about over the counter drugs at your drug store!), your doctor, or at least a real nurse (medical assistants do not count as they have nearly zero pharmacology education)
 
2013-01-10 07:40:57 PM
Please please please just get your whole family vaccinated? Just make it less likely?

/kthxbye
 
2013-01-10 07:41:56 PM

moefuggenbrew: A friend of mine sells a tylenol alternative:  shameless plug

;)


Ten to one it's just mineral oil with menthol in it. I notice that there's no ingredients list anywhere on that website or on the bottle, which is illegal. In addition to there's the classic "Quack Miranda Warning." Your friend is a scam artist and a lying sack of shiat. I hate people that prey on people using ignorance and lies.
 
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