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(LA Times)   Well, it's time to reset the "days until we can talk about gun control" counter back to zero again   (latimesblogs.latimes.com) divider line 741
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2013-01-10 02:17:54 PM  

olddeegee: Fox News spends more time talking about guns than the Military Channel. Obama should come out and tell everybody to buy an assault rifle. You'd probably see Republicans calling for repealing the 2nd.


Worked when the Black Panthers were open carrying. Probably would work again if we had a bunch of blah people walking around with AR-15s.
 
2013-01-10 02:18:12 PM  

Pfactor: But... high capacity magazines and military-looking rifles are ALREADY banned in California. Gun activists told us this couldn't happen!


Seems like we are done here.
 
2013-01-10 02:18:15 PM  

Cuyose: lordjupiter: Pfactor: But... high capacity magazines and military-looking rifles are ALREADY banned in California. Gun activists told us this couldn't happen!

Seriously...do you look at lines on a map and think they're forcefields?

If that is your logic, unless we can make guns disappear all over the world, gun control will never have an impact


How do you figure? You seriously think border control for the country is the same as state to state? And that there would be no impact at all? Ok, right.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-10 02:18:19 PM  

The_Sponge: lordjupiter: Pfactor: But... high capacity magazines and military-looking rifles are ALREADY banned in California. Gun activists told us this couldn't happen!

Seriously...do you look at lines on a map and think they're forcefields?


So your solution is for other states to adopt California's retarded gun laws?


You are just angry that this guy wasn't able to get his score up into the twenties like your hero at Sandy Hook.
 
2013-01-10 02:18:21 PM  

Psycoholic_Slag: Ahhh, Taft.

They're
All
Fu*king
Tweekers

30 miles from my house.


Taft is most likely a shiathole (I've only passed the exit on the freeway, and have never been there), but if you're 30 miles away you must live in Bakersfield.  Which means you have no room to talk any shiat whatsoever about anyplace.
 
2013-01-10 02:18:23 PM  

Aeon Rising: Control freaks, congrats. You prove we really can only pay attention to one thing. And that thing is something that kills very few. You ignore tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths to focus on a few.


Which deaths are being ignored?
 
2013-01-10 02:18:29 PM  
The shooter could have done it just as easily with his bare hands. I refer you to Metal Gear Solid.
 
2013-01-10 02:18:32 PM  
How could this happen? It was a gun free zone!
 
2013-01-10 02:18:40 PM  
Am I the only one who thinks the headline doesn't make sense as written?
 
2013-01-10 02:18:55 PM  

Cuyose: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Maybe, just maybe, it's HARDER to get things across international borders, so fewer things come across than can be transferred across state lines.

How hard is it to buy pot from someone?


you're really going to suggest that our international borders are not monitored at all, whatsoever?

Because state borders aren't monitored for anything but produce. Unless you think international borders are never monitored for anything but produce, then they are by definition MORE secure.
 
2013-01-10 02:18:58 PM  

Utter Genius: 18,000 people die in drunk-driving incidents a year. Government, please ban assault cars and assault alcohol TIA.


Hmm, comparing car ownership and gun ownership really isn't a bad idea. Why don't we require you to pass two tests and take a class before being approved to even own a gun, AND require a couple hundred dollars a month in "gun insurance" which helps pay the medical bills or funeral expenses of whoever ends up dying by your piece.
 
2013-01-10 02:19:20 PM  

Pfactor: But... high capacity magazines and military-looking rifles are ALREADY banned in California. Gun activists told us this couldn't happen!


Only two injured, not double-digits dead.

Try harder.

1/10
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-10 02:19:21 PM  

WTF Indeed: Perhaps if the pro-gun control argument wasn't lead by Piers Morgan, your side might have a chance of affecting real change.


The side of sane people?
 
2013-01-10 02:19:35 PM  

Cyberluddite: Psycoholic_Slag: Ahhh, Taft.

They're
All
Fu*king
Tweekers

30 miles from my house.

Taft is most likely a shiathole (I've only passed the exit on the freeway, and have never been there), but if you're 30 miles away you must live in Bakersfield.  Which means you have no room to talk any shiat whatsoever about anyplace.


This, this and this.
 
2013-01-10 02:19:40 PM  

iheartscotch: lordjupiter: Pfactor: But... high capacity magazines and military-looking rifles are ALREADY banned in California. Gun activists told us this couldn't happen!

Seriously...do you look at lines on a map and think they're forcefields?

You do realize that the US-Mexico border isn't a force field either?

And, criminals are not likely to follow the laws?

And, getting a gun in Mexico is as easy as bribing a federali?

And, heavily armed Mexican drug cartels can get over the border with no problem?


You do realize that something =/= nothing?
 
2013-01-10 02:19:44 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Am I the only one who thinks the headline doesn't make sense as written?


It doesn't have to make sense, because guns.
 
2013-01-10 02:19:48 PM  
wow, it's almost been a month since the last school shooting.
 
2013-01-10 02:20:12 PM  
Guns give an unfair advantage to people who deserve to get their asses kicked.
 
2013-01-10 02:20:13 PM  

Lexx: Utter Genius: 18,000 people die in drunk-driving incidents a year. Government, please ban assault cars and assault alcohol TIA.

Hmm, comparing car ownership and gun ownership really isn't a bad idea. Why don't we require you to pass two tests and take a class before being approved to even own a gun, AND require a couple hundred dollars a month in "gun insurance" which helps pay the medical bills or funeral expenses of whoever ends up dying by your piece.


...and get the classes started in High School at that.

By the time you graduate you can have your gun license and your parents can pay your gun insurance until you're 24 (25 if Congress will grant you an extension under your parents).
 
2013-01-10 02:20:22 PM  

vpb: Cuyose: lordjupiter: Pfactor: But... high capacity magazines and military-looking rifles are ALREADY banned in California. Gun activists told us this couldn't happen!

Seriously...do you look at lines on a map and think they're forcefields?

If that is your logic, unless we can make guns disappear all over the world, gun control will never have an impact

Or we can remember that international borders are controlled and just have nationwide gun control.


Ok, so now only the criminals are getting new guns. I'm not seeing that as a better solution.
 
2013-01-10 02:20:25 PM  

vpb: WTF Indeed: Perhaps if the pro-gun control argument wasn't lead by Piers Morgan, your side might have a chance of affecting real change.

The side of sane people?


And who said he was "leading" it, except the people that are all butthurt over what he said?
 
2013-01-10 02:20:26 PM  
The men of Israel withdrew through the territory of the Benjaminites, putting to the sword the inhabitants of the city, the livestock, and all they chanced upon. Moreover they destroyed by fire all the cities they came upon. (Judges 20:48 NAB)

I forgot what book this is from, but we need to ban this hyper-violent media that is a terrible influence causing this kind of thing.
 
2013-01-10 02:20:48 PM  

vpb: Cuyose: lordjupiter: Pfactor: But... high capacity magazines and military-looking rifles are ALREADY banned in California. Gun activists told us this couldn't happen!

Seriously...do you look at lines on a map and think they're forcefields?

If that is your logic, unless we can make guns disappear all over the world, gun control will never have an impact

Or we can remember that international borders are controlled and just have nationwide gun control.


If our border was controlled, we wouldn't need a DREAM act.
 
2013-01-10 02:20:50 PM  
MOAR GUNZ FOR THE GUN GODD!
 
2013-01-10 02:20:55 PM  
Let's make sure we don't talk about the fact that everyone is on prescription mood altering drugs either!
 
2013-01-10 02:20:57 PM  

Lexx: Utter Genius: 18,000 people die in drunk-driving incidents a year. Government, please ban assault cars and assault alcohol TIA.

Hmm, comparing car ownership and gun ownership really isn't a bad idea. Why don't we require you to pass two tests and take a class before being approved to even own a gun, AND require a couple hundred dollars a month in "gun insurance" which helps pay the medical bills or funeral expenses of whoever ends up dying by your piece.


Being trained to use a gun properly will not stop people from killing people with one.
 
2013-01-10 02:21:02 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: The conversation for mental health care is still patiently waiting. Your call, America.


THIS. Spending 2 minutes on the internet is MORE than enough to hammer home the point that SO MANY people are farked up beyond belief. Seriously, we need to teach children how to deal with emotions... cause a lot of people have VERY serious emotional problems.

img7.imageshack.us

/scares me to think how many of them also own guns
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-10 02:21:03 PM  

murderguy: HMS_Blinkin: murderguy: Well, at least it is a high school. I couldn't take another elementary school shooting right now.

I agree with you, but think about what that means for the United States. We've become so resigned to the fact that children are going to get gunned down in school, that we're just happy when it's older children and not younger ones. Our goalposts have moved WAY the fark too far in a certain direction.


You have to take what you can get. Gun control in a meaningful way is impossible without a constitutional amendment which will not happen. I hope anyone who died, or will die in the future, got a little bit of time to live. It really is all we can hope for.


Bullshiat.  The Second Amendment has nothing to do with it.  We have been controlling NFA weapons effectively for decades.  It's time to add some new weapons to it/
 
2013-01-10 02:21:12 PM  

marcand


If only there were more guns to prevent such a horrible gun tragedy. I feel guns are the only way we can gun safety for our children. Guns are the gun defense that gun the gun gunning. Gun the gun gun gun da gun. Gun gun gungungungun


Gunga galunga. Gunga... gunga galunga.


Gunga Din
 
2013-01-10 02:21:14 PM  
You guys are all jumping to conclusions. Maybe the kid was just showing the other kids how safe his shotgun was.
 
2013-01-10 02:21:19 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Private_Citizen: If all it takes to reset the counter is a new shooting, we'll never have a conversation on gun control.

That is literally the exact reason why pro-gun types say we can't talk about guns after shootings.


I'd like the followup question to be asked, becuase something is supposed to implied:

WHY is this not the time to talk about gun control?
Is it because we should be in a period of mourning for the latest mass murder victims who were just killed by guns?
 
2013-01-10 02:21:28 PM  
The only solution is to ban schools.
 
2013-01-10 02:21:39 PM  

Cuyose: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Maybe, just maybe, it's HARDER to get things across international borders, so fewer things come across than can be transferred across state lines.

How hard is it to buy pot from someone?


Pot =/= guns.

Plus, you can't mass manufacture guns in your closet, dumbass.
 
2013-01-10 02:21:46 PM  

you have pee hands: Only two people shot? Better up your game or we'll forget about you by the end of the week.


At least they died in the one way you care about, otherwise the control freaks would not care in the slightest, or even hear about it.
 
2013-01-10 02:22:05 PM  
Reno Hightower
 
2013-01-10 02:22:05 PM  

topcon: Lexx: Utter Genius: 18,000 people die in drunk-driving incidents a year. Government, please ban assault cars and assault alcohol TIA.

Hmm, comparing car ownership and gun ownership really isn't a bad idea. Why don't we require you to pass two tests and take a class before being approved to even own a gun, AND require a couple hundred dollars a month in "gun insurance" which helps pay the medical bills or funeral expenses of whoever ends up dying by your piece.

Being trained to use a gun properly will not stop people from killing people with one.


Hmm, I wonder why I've been in almost every gun thread whining about mental health care...
 
2013-01-10 02:22:11 PM  

lordjupiter: Cuyose: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Maybe, just maybe, it's HARDER to get things across international borders, so fewer things come across than can be transferred across state lines.

How hard is it to buy pot from someone?

Pot =/= guns.

Plus, you can't mass manufacture guns in your closet, dumbass.


Yeah seriously and almost all the pot one can buy around here is grown IN california.
 
2013-01-10 02:22:20 PM  

lordjupiter: If that is your logic, unless we can make guns disappear all over the world, gun control will never have an impact

How do you figure? You seriously think border control for the country is the same as state to state? And that there would be no impact at all? Ok, right.


No it would have no impact at all, unless you repeal the 2nd and 4th amendment. There will be guns, people that want them for good or evil, will be able to get guns. Short of taking all guns from all citizens and making humanity forget they were ever invented, gang bangers will use them to kill other gang bangers. Mentally deranged people will find them to kill people, and lawful citizens will use them to protect themselves from those willing to do harm.
 
2013-01-10 02:22:53 PM  

vpb: We have been controlling NFA weapons effectively for decades.  It's time to add some new weapons to it/


That'll fix it.
 
2013-01-10 02:22:55 PM  

OwnTheRide: Surely this is a mistake. California is one of the most restrictive states in the nation when it comes to gun control, and we all know that more gun control will stop crazy people from trying to kill others. Furthermore, this was in a gun-free zone, so there clearly couldn't have been any guns there.

Right?

Right?


Right.

Right.
 
2013-01-10 02:22:59 PM  
Hey here's an idea, let's try to help the victims first, then we can talk about gun control....
 
2013-01-10 02:23:02 PM  

toomuchmarisa: The My Little Pony Killer: The conversation for mental health care is still patiently waiting. Your call, America.

THIS. Spending 2 minutes on the internet is MORE than enough to hammer home the point that SO MANY people are farked up beyond belief. Seriously, we need to teach children how to deal with emotions... cause a lot of people have VERY serious emotional problems.

[img7.imageshack.us image 266x190]

/scares me to think how many of them also own guns


Gun nuts are afraid that they may actually be crazy and will lose all their gun friends.  That's why we can't talk about it.
 
2013-01-10 02:23:04 PM  
Thanks to the CA state gun laws, the shooter didn't have an assault rifle, and only two people died in this attack. The law is working as intended.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-10 02:23:14 PM  

iheartscotch: lordjupiter: Pfactor: But... high capacity magazines and military-looking rifles are ALREADY banned in California. Gun activists told us this couldn't happen!

Seriously...do you look at lines on a map and think they're forcefields?

You do realize that the US-Mexico border isn't a force field either?

And, criminals are not likely to follow the laws?

And, getting a gun in Mexico is as easy as bribing a federali?

And, heavily armed Mexican drug cartels can get over the border with no problem?


Bullshiat.  We would have the kind of violence they have here if it were that easy, and so would all those countries with decent gun control that don't have this problem anywhere near as much.
 
2013-01-10 02:23:18 PM  

Utter Genius: 18,000 people die in drunk-driving incidents a year. Government, please ban assault cars and assault alcohol TIA.


hmm. cars require ID...Booze requires ID.

any banjo playing american hick can buy a gun anywhere, buy ammo without ID.

the real issue is that gunmericans are self righteous entitled twats who have penis problems and need guns on all their movie posters, in all the television shows and a gun to solve all their problems..except the big problem of it's corrupt political system and corporate police state..
no..don't mention that....

so any gun debate sadly avoids all that...

a nation of psychopaths .

right on gun nuts.
 
2013-01-10 02:23:26 PM  

lordjupiter: And that there would be no impact at all?


Of course there would be an impact. Everyone not willing to go across the border for an illegal gun wouldn't have a gun. Of course, those aren't the people you needed to worry about in the first place, but that's not the point, right?
 
2013-01-10 02:23:28 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I think it's pretty obvious that this is another FALSE FLAG concocted by Obama and his cronies.  He no doubt learned it from the Chicoms and the Norks back in Nam.


This isn't Nam Rapmaster, there are RULES!
 
2013-01-10 02:23:32 PM  

A Terrible Human: Christ almighty will it ever stop?


I think we all know the answer to that one. fark, yeah.
 
2013-01-10 02:23:33 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: topcon: Lexx: Utter Genius: 18,000 people die in drunk-driving incidents a year. Government, please ban assault cars and assault alcohol TIA.

Hmm, comparing car ownership and gun ownership really isn't a bad idea. Why don't we require you to pass two tests and take a class before being approved to even own a gun, AND require a couple hundred dollars a month in "gun insurance" which helps pay the medical bills or funeral expenses of whoever ends up dying by your piece.

Being trained to use a gun properly will not stop people from killing people with one.

Hmm, I wonder why I've been in almost every gun thread whining about mental health care...


Maybe your equus destruction fetish needs to be regulated.
 
2013-01-10 02:24:00 PM  

Dynascape: Lexx: Utter Genius: 18,000 people die in drunk-driving incidents a year. Government, please ban assault cars and assault alcohol TIA.

Hmm, comparing car ownership and gun ownership really isn't a bad idea. Why don't we require you to pass two tests and take a class before being approved to even own a gun, AND require a couple hundred dollars a month in "gun insurance" which helps pay the medical bills or funeral expenses of whoever ends up dying by your piece.

...and get the classes started in High School at that.

By the time you graduate you can have your gun license and your parents can pay your gun insurance until you're 24 (25 if Congress will grant you an extension under your parents).


I'm liking this idea more and more. Make insurance a mandatory component of legal gun ownership. Hell, make it like Obama care where if a private insurer won't touch you because you're a farking nutter, or you refuse to pay it, the government just fines you a few hundred dollars a year and puts the funds towards helping shooting victims.
 
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