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(Joe Sixpack)   Beer reporter speculates that there may be an actual "hops addiction," wherein tracking down the latest, hoppiest ale is more important than the actual flavor of the beer, which may just explain the whole hipster thing in general   (joesixpack.net) divider line 111
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2013-01-10 02:06:28 PM
Nah, we're addicted to the alcohol. The hops just make it taste f*cking great.
 
2013-01-10 02:22:16 PM
beerstreetjournal.com

Yes, Master!!!
 
2013-01-10 02:35:40 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com

Keep 'em coming!
 
2013-01-10 02:49:30 PM
I thought hipsters drank PBR? Did I miss a meeting? Is there any beer hipsters don't drink?

/so much beer, only one liver...
 
2013-01-10 03:53:21 PM
I hate hops. Give me a nut brown ale with no hops at all.
 
2013-01-10 04:19:56 PM
Keep your nasty-ass hop bombs
 
2013-01-10 04:22:47 PM

KarmicDisaster: I hate hops. Give me a nut brown ale with no hops at all.


There's probably hops in your nut brown ale, even if you don't taste them.
 
2013-01-10 04:29:21 PM
Hops Puns Brewery is proud to introduce their newest creation "Bob Hop's Hoplebrity Hops Tournament Oaked India Pale Ale".
 
2013-01-10 05:32:01 PM

Lando Lincoln: KarmicDisaster: I hate hops. Give me a nut brown ale with no hops at all.

There's probably hops in your nut brown ale, even if you don't taste them.


Not much when I make it. I do add a little, but I don't like them.
 
2013-01-10 05:32:06 PM

whither_apophis: I thought hipsters drank PBR? Did I miss a meeting? Is there any beer hipsters don't drink?

/so much beer, only one liver...


Budweiser?
 
2013-01-10 05:32:38 PM
sandiegopho.com
 
2013-01-10 05:33:50 PM

violentsalvation: Nah, we're addicted to the alcohol. The hops just make it taste f*cking great.


Seriously folks, step away from the hops.They're reaching Seth Rogan levels of saturation
 
2013-01-10 05:34:43 PM
i1247.photobucket.com


SOUR POWER!!!!
 
2013-01-10 05:37:14 PM
I don't think people are addicted to hops, so much as they are addicted to trying new and increasingly powerful flavors that they have recently discovered.

When I first got into craft beer, it was stouts. I farking loved them. Got all I could get my hands on. The darker and maltier the beer, the more I sought it out. Then I discovered other styles, and my love for stouts went away and I was really into bitter hops. Then golden ales. Now I just drink a little bit of everything.

I don't think anyone would say I had a stout addiction. I was just so excited to drink something that tasted so different from all the brews I had been drinking in high school and college.
 
2013-01-10 05:38:16 PM

KarmicDisaster: Lando Lincoln: KarmicDisaster: I hate hops. Give me a nut brown ale with no hops at all.

There's probably hops in your nut brown ale, even if you don't taste them.

Not much when I make it. I do add a little, but I don't like them.


Can I get your recipe? I want to start brewing my own beer, and one of my favorite styles is the nut brown ale.


/other is the oatmeal stout
 
2013-01-10 05:38:18 PM

Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: [i1247.photobucket.com image 500x698]


SOUR POWER!!!!


Sours are good too, if done right.
 
2013-01-10 05:40:55 PM
farkin hopsters
 
2013-01-10 05:43:56 PM
There is a limit. "Hop Stoopid" is disgusting, for example.
 
2013-01-10 05:44:34 PM
No, I'll admit it.  I'll come clean. My name is Toraque, and I am a hop addict.

At first I was just experimenting, a furtive hop or two when no one was looking.  Maybe just a skip here and there.  Then I found myself unable to stop, bouncing down the halls at work, while my coworkers stared and whispered behind my back.  Soon I hit rock bottom, tying springs to the bottoms of my feet to make up for my decrepit knees, the ceiling of my cheap apartment covered in dings in the shape of the top of my head.  It was terrible, shameful really.  Then, my family staged an intervention, tying me to a chair while the poison worked its way out of my system.

To this day I'm hop free, but I couldn't have done it without help.  If any of you are considering going down this route with your lives, I can only hope my story serves as a warning.
 
2013-01-10 05:44:38 PM

tricycleracer: Hops Puns Brewery is proud to introduce their newest creation "Bob Hop's Hoplebrity Hops Tournament Oaked India Pale Ale".


That sounds pretty good, except it needs to be about 20% hoppier.

i.imgur.com

There we go.
 
2013-01-10 05:44:45 PM
They won't have to look very far...
12southtaproom.com
120+ IBUs, search is over.
 
2013-01-10 05:47:07 PM
Our lives are so much richer because of the family Cannabaceae.
 
2013-01-10 05:48:21 PM

Satanic_Hamster: [sandiegopho.com image 850x1100]


I don't usually like super-hoppy ales, but Arrogant Bastard is nice.
 
2013-01-10 05:50:10 PM
I could see it. Some of my friends could take or leave hops depending on the style, others are hop nuts who think anything less than IPA doesn't count as craft beer.

One of them is so far gone, I would not be surprised to find the poor bastard eating a pinecone.
 
2013-01-10 05:52:38 PM
Not a hoppy beer but the one that has me hooked currently
www.tippinsmarket.com
 
2013-01-10 05:54:09 PM
I prefer malty Belgians and doppelbocks
 
2013-01-10 05:54:32 PM

Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: [i1247.photobucket.com image 500x698]


SOUR POWER!!!!


Definitely going to pick some of that up, thanks for telling us about it!

/Living Colour Is My Favorite Black Metal Band
 
2013-01-10 05:54:48 PM
The craft beer revolution is a new thing, and therefore not hipsterish. As said above, hipsters drink PBR.

The Racer 5 picture game me a warm feeling inside.
 
2013-01-10 06:00:40 PM

AmazinTim: They won't have to look very far...
[12southtaproom.com image 515x673]
120+ IBUs, search is over.


Ruination's pretty well-balanced. Palate Wrecker, at 149, no extract, is ... shall we say, not as well-balanced. Huge, off-the-wall hop wallop, hits you in the nose as much as it does in the palate. Madness in a bottle.

I think what's going on in the world of hopheads is analagous to what happens to chiliheads. There are a few who can barely eat a deep-fried jalapeno popper, most can get up to serrano-level chili lovin', but once you work your way past habanero, and by the time their palates have gotten to that point, a raw serrano could be eaten as most of us could eat a sweet bell pepper.

For me, IPAs are still all about balance. You can make a chili hotter than the surface of the sun, but the real value of the habanero is to add different notes of flavor along with heat. Likewise, the purpose of hops, even in an imperial IPA, is to convey the essence of each individual type of hops chosen.

The only difference between IBUs and the Scoville Scale is that the Scoville Scale can actually be tasted all the way up until your airway seizes. With IBUs, although you can put more hops into a beer ad infinitum (like Mikkeller's 1000-IBU stunt beer), no palate is going to be discerning differences in bitterness past around 100 or so. The nose, mouthfeel, and other characteristics of the beer are not a function of IBUs.
 
2013-01-10 06:10:29 PM
This may be true... but I don't really care. I like hops. A hipster hop trend just means more of the things I like.

It's similar to how I feel about people who don't need glasses wearing glasses because they're fashionable. I'm not angry that they're hipster poseurs... I have to wear glasses anyway, so it's nice that they're fashionable and that more styles are available.
 
2013-01-10 06:12:00 PM

Twilight Farkle: AmazinTim: They won't have to look very far...
[12southtaproom.com image 515x673]
120+ IBUs, search is over.

Ruination's pretty well-balanced. Palate Wrecker, at 149, no extract, is ... shall we say, not as well-balanced. Huge, off-the-wall hop wallop, hits you in the nose as much as it does in the palate. Madness in a bottle.

I think what's going on in the world of hopheads is analagous to what happens to chiliheads. There are a few who can barely eat a deep-fried jalapeno popper, most can get up to serrano-level chili lovin', but once you work your way past habanero, and by the time their palates have gotten to that point, a raw serrano could be eaten as most of us could eat a sweet bell pepper.

For me, IPAs are still all about balance. You can make a chili hotter than the surface of the sun, but the real value of the habanero is to add different notes of flavor along with heat. Likewise, the purpose of hops, even in an imperial IPA, is to convey the essence of each individual type of hops chosen.

The only difference between IBUs and the Scoville Scale is that the Scoville Scale can actually be tasted all the way up until your airway seizes. With IBUs, although you can put more hops into a beer ad infinitum (like Mikkeller's 1000-IBU stunt beer), no palate is going to be discerning differences in bitterness past around 100 or so. The nose, mouthfeel, and other characteristics of the beer are not a function of IBUs.


You can also, should you wish, make tea out of hops.

I do not recommend that, though, as it tastes like demon ass.
 
2013-01-10 06:15:11 PM

The Face Of Oblivion: Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: [i1247.photobucket.com image 500x698]


SOUR POWER!!!!

Definitely going to pick some of that up, thanks for telling us about it!

/Living Colour Is My Favorite Black Metal Band


i1247.photobucket.com

Your welcome and funny you should mention black metal......
 
2013-01-10 06:21:18 PM

HeartBurnKid: whither_apophis: I thought hipsters drank PBR? Did I miss a meeting? Is there any beer hipsters don't drink?

/so much beer, only one liver...

Budweiser?


Yup, total sellouts to InBev. Lost their street cred.
 
2013-01-10 06:26:37 PM
Well, duh.

Spend 15 minutes in the hop freezer of your local zymurgical supply shop, then tell me hops aren't addictive.
 
2013-01-10 06:27:31 PM
I admit having done this.

Hop Heads want to be shocked and after Hop Stoopid (Lagunitas) Ruination (Stone) and Hop 15 (Port Brewing) the bar has been set very, very high.

/that's a pun because Marijuana is the Hop's closest relative!

//Yes, I am a San Diegan.

///Lots of Hop/Pot Heads here.

////Guilty
 
2013-01-10 06:28:05 PM
Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike to work wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac
 
2013-01-10 06:28:27 PM

Twilight Farkle: With IBUs, although you can put more hops into a beer ad infinitum (like Mikkeller's 1000-IBU stunt beer), no palate is going to be discerning differences in bitterness past around 100 or so. The nose, mouthfeel, and other characteristics of the beer are not a function of IBUs.


1000 IBU is nowhere near 1000 actual IBU. It's no more hoppy than Unearthly which rates ~150.

It's also untrue that above 150-200 IBU your taste buds are saturated and can't experience more. I made a hop tea (90 min. boil, hopping schedule similar to a Pliny the Elder clone) that used enough pellets for hopping 1 gal of Pliny but was concentrated into 8 oz. of water. The tea was putrid green. A teaspoon of it tasted unfathomably bad and left me with hops aftertaste for an hour, no exaggeration. I made the stuff to incorporate into an IPA cake (which also included gold dry malt extract in the cake and icing).
 
2013-01-10 06:29:10 PM
letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike to work wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


Seems legit.
 
2013-01-10 06:37:29 PM
I hate overly hoppy beers. a Light hop, sure... Medium hop. Yeah, on occasion. Heavy hop, NO. You hopheads can go suck on a lemon. If you want something so bitter then go eat some 100% chocolate. Beer should be smooth and drinkable with a kind aftertaste. If I want something meaty I'll have a stout; If I want something bith a bite I'll have an ale; If I'm just relaxing after work I'm drinking a belgium. Yeah that's right you beer snobs. I drink MGD and I like it.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-10 06:38:51 PM

Diogenes: [beerstreetjournal.com image 570x409]

Yes, Master!!!


I recently toured the Terrapin brewery. The tour itself is an utter and complete waste of time. The $10 glass, which you get filled about 1/2 way 8 times for free, is totally worth it.

/Terrapin Rye for me
 
2013-01-10 06:40:00 PM

Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: The Face Of Oblivion: Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: [i1247.photobucket.com image 500x698]


SOUR POWER!!!!

Definitely going to pick some of that up, thanks for telling us about it!

/Living Colour Is My Favorite Black Metal Band

[i1247.photobucket.com image 517x595]

Your welcome and funny you should mention black metal......


1.bp.blogspot.com

I may have to fly to Austin.
 
2013-01-10 06:41:33 PM
Best hoppy beer ever is dogfish head 90 min. Perfect balance, and I don't feel like I mowed my lawn and redirected the bag tube into my mouth every sip.
 
2013-01-10 06:46:03 PM
I've got a clone of Stone Ruination bottle conditioning right now (will be ready to drink next week), a clone of Bell's Two Hearted in the primary ready to be dry hopped next weekend so I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

/Have a plan for an Imperial IPA (I'm calling it the 'Fibonacci Downward Spiral') and it will be getting the following in a 90 minute boil:

-1.0 oz Columbus Hops (89 Minutes)
-1.0 oz Nugget Hops (55 Minutes)
-1.0 oz Centennial Hops (34 Minutes)
-1.0 oz Cascade Hops (21 Minutes)
-1.0 oz Centennial Hops (13 Minutes)
-1.0 oz Cascade Hops (8 Minutes)
-1.0 oz Centennial Hops (5 Minutes)
-0.5 oz Cascade Hops (3 Minutes)
-0.5 oz Centennial Hops (2 Minutes)
-1.0 oz Simcoe Hops (1 Minutes)
-1.0 oz Amarillo Hops (1 Minutes)

-2.0 oz Centennial Hops (Dry Hop 7 days)
-2.0 oz Cascade Hops (Dry Hop 7 days)

/So excited!
 
2013-01-10 06:52:30 PM
I wish the American craft beer scene would move on from IPA. Over here in Oz everyone is copying them.

Personally I hate super hopped beers. Give me a nice fruity wheat beer.
Or a golden ale, or a stout, or a..........

Please a little diversity.

And mikkeler please no more IPAs with different hops. They are all tasting the same!
 
2013-01-10 06:55:29 PM

KarmicDisaster: I hate hops. Give me a nut brown ale with no hops at all.


Rogue's Hazelnut Brown Nectar is farking amazing!
 
2013-01-10 06:56:16 PM
I used to use fresh hops in dishes at my last job. They have a pleasant bitterness and an interesting, almost sticky mouthfeel. Who'd a thunk?
 
2013-01-10 07:00:35 PM

AmazinTim: They won't have to look very far...

120+ IBUs, search is over.


I am a hops connoisseur, but ruination and hopstoopid are too much even for me.

If you can still taste the hops 5 minutes into the next beer, you may be too hopped up...
 
2013-01-10 07:03:56 PM
This thread is making me salivate. violentsalivation.

i798.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-10 07:06:36 PM

Treygreen13: letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike to work wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac

Seems legit.


Anyone who makes a list like that tends to:
1. Be a really hack Fark poster.
2. Drinks only light beer
3. Listens to Nickleback
 
2013-01-10 07:08:19 PM

RepoManTSM: Treygreen13: letrole: Anyone who drinks craft beer also tends to:

1. Own a TV but haven't turned it on in years
2. Ride a bike to work wearing spandex stretch trousers
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac

Seems legit.

Anyone who makes a list like that tends to:
1. Be a really hack Fark poster.
2. Drinks only light beer
3. Listens to Nickleback


He posts that silly list in ever craft brew thread.
 
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