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(Gizmodo)   Amazon now puts any physical CD you've bought from them in your cloud drive automatically. That's pretty coo...wait a second...aw crap, the NOW Disney CD I just bought my niece for Xmas is now in my library   (gizmodo.com) divider line 84
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2013-01-10 07:45:01 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Is there an option to tell them it is a gift and have the album uploaded to someone else? Because I could see some hilarity in that.

Zamfir? Master of the Pan Flute? WTF is this shiat?


Hey, I'll trade you Zamfir for Celtic Thunder, Trisha Yearwood and Lee Ann Womak. My brother has girly taste in music, and I shouldn't suffer alone.

On the bright side, yay, Nick Cave music that never ripped because scratched CDs, Voltaire that was lent and never returned.

/wtf are some of these, and why would I want them?
 
2013-01-10 08:41:33 PM  
People still buy CDs? I mean at least the idiots who buy records can stretch the "it sounds warmer" nonsense, but CDs? Really?
 
2013-01-10 09:52:12 PM  

lilplatinum: People still buy CDs? I mean at least the idiots who buy records can stretch the "it sounds warmer" nonsense, but CDs? Really?


You're the idiot who doesn't realize this goes retroactive. Big time. Like to a time when you were probably in diapers before the iPod.
 
2013-01-10 10:19:00 PM  

12349876: lilplatinum: People still buy CDs? I mean at least the idiots who buy records can stretch the "it sounds warmer" nonsense, but CDs? Really?

You're the idiot who doesn't realize this goes retroactive. Big time. Like to a time when you were probably in diapers before the iPod.


Ha, I last bought a CD in high school - maybe 98 or 99. So yeah, I guess for those people who didn't have enough basic intelligence to obtain mp3s, and actually used Amazon back then to buys cd, and if they still count that far back, this is a fantastic deal.
 
2013-01-10 11:18:19 PM  

madduffy:

Google Music's cloud service started matching and giving free high quality copies a month ago (like the Apple Itunes matching service but no subscription required). This seems to be a twist that Google will not be able to compete against. Interestingly, my account now has copies of all the CD's I bought as gifts for other people on Amazon.


Wow. They're going all the way back to 1998 purchases. This is crazy. I literally now have hundreds of Tony Bennett and Barbara Streisand tracks for free. I'll probably never listen to them, but I will keep them.
 
2013-01-10 11:34:44 PM  

lilplatinum: People still buy CDs? I mean at least the idiots who buy records can stretch the "it sounds warmer" nonsense, but CDs? Really?


Thanks to everyone moving to iTunes et al, I can generally buy used CDs (and often brand new ones from Amazon and eBay) for less than 99 cents per song. Often, around $1 for a whole disc.

I won't deny that there's a nostalgia kick though. My old CD player (Philips CD104) still works great, as do a variety of other optical disc players acquired over the years (CD changers, DVD players, BD players) so that its gotten to the point where no matter what room I'm in, there's a CD player right there. I happen to love music, and listen to it pretty much all the time. I'm also fortunate enough that I have real amps and speakers to play my music with, instead of being confined by headphones, so I can enjoy the performance viscerally.

Still, I agree that ripping a disc to bits and storing them on my hard drive is super simple. That's where they're all archived, nice and neat, pristine WAV files ready to be accessed whenever I'd like, or downloaded to my phone for easy travel.

Do CDs sound different from downloaded digital files? Not usually, depends on who you ask, what gear they've got, what bit rate the download was, and how well the CD was engineered. One thing most people can agree on, though, is that current audio engineering has gone to crap (loudness wars, etc.)

Besides, it's fun to have a hobby. It's fun to go looking through racks and find a disc that you'd forgotten about, or didn't know existed. Many people get the same thrill looking for comic books, or beers, or watches, or what have you. So, take that in, and please stop referring to people as "idiots" just because you don't understand them.
 
2013-01-10 11:37:32 PM  
Checking back, Amazon now says this:

"AutoRip Update: Due to high demand, we are experiencing delays. We will email you when we have added your AutoRip music to your Cloud Player Library"

I look forward to that!
 
2013-01-11 12:12:15 AM  

Kraftwerk Orange: I can generally buy used CDs ... often, around $1 for a whole disc.


I do the same, although I usually see them for around $2/disc shipped. I then use Exact Audio Copy to rip them to FLAC, toss the CD into a box in the closet when I am done and I'm good.
 
2013-01-11 12:19:58 AM  

Disposable Rob: madduffy:

Google Music's cloud service started matching and giving free high quality copies a month ago (like the Apple Itunes matching service but no subscription required). This seems to be a twist that Google will not be able to compete against. Interestingly, my account now has copies of all the CD's I bought as gifts for other people on Amazon.

Wow. They're going all the way back to 1998 purchases. This is crazy. I literally now have hundreds of Tony Bennett and Barbara Streisand tracks for free. I'll probably never listen to them, but I will keep them.


Of course I live in Canada, so i get screwed on this.
 
2013-01-11 12:43:18 AM  
They make it kind of hard to find... If you click on the cloud player they're not listed, but if you can track down the autorip page you can stumble on it several links into the crap.

I appear to have 26 albums.
 
2013-01-11 01:20:17 AM  

wambu: Yeah, I have some Fresh Beat Band and Laurie Berkner in mine.

/really, my granddaughter likes that shiat
//I'll introduce her to some Pink Floyd when she's older


Hey nothing wrong with Fresh Beat Band... that redheaded drummer mmmm (the original one not the girl they replaced her with).
 
2013-01-11 01:25:53 AM  
Hmmmm. Dunno if it's buggy; glancing through a lot of the albums aren't complete.
 
2013-01-11 05:16:43 AM  

lilplatinum: 12349876: lilplatinum: People still buy CDs? I mean at least the idiots who buy records can stretch the "it sounds warmer" nonsense, but CDs? Really?

You're the idiot who doesn't realize this goes retroactive. Big time. Like to a time when you were probably in diapers before the iPod.

Ha, I last bought a CD in high school - maybe 98 or 99. So yeah, I guess for those people who didn't have enough basic intelligence to obtain mp3s, and actually used Amazon back then to buys cd, and if they still count that far back, this is a fantastic deal.


So you're one of the deaf ones who think MP3 sounds good.

/lossy compressed is no substitute for lossless
 
2013-01-11 08:17:33 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Hmmmm. Dunno if it's buggy; glancing through a lot of the albums aren't complete.


Hmmm. Now it's showing 339 eligible cd's.

peterthx: o you're one of the deaf ones who think MP3 sounds good.

/lossy compressed is no substitute for lossless


I think he's more a jerk or troll.
 
2013-01-11 09:43:41 AM  

peterthx: So you're one of the deaf ones who think MP3 sounds good.

/lossy compressed is no substitute for lossless


I bet you have lots of gold plated monster speaker wire to get even more audio qulaity that only you can hear.
 
2013-01-11 12:21:49 PM  

AgentKGB: wambu: Yeah, I have some Fresh Beat Band and Laurie Berkner in mine.

/really, my granddaughter likes that shiat
//I'll introduce her to some Pink Floyd when she's older

Hey nothing wrong with Fresh Beat Band... that redheaded drummer mmmm (the original one not the girl they replaced her with).


I wonder why she left. Did not want to go on tour with the band?

Redhead Laurie Berkner could look hotter if she dressed better.
 
2013-01-11 12:50:37 PM  

peterthx: So you're one of the deaf ones who think MP3 sounds good.


While I do rip my CDs to FLAC, to be honest, I can not hear the difference between them and 320Kbps Musepak, MP3 or Vorbis.  There are only a few songs where I think I hear a difference at 256Kbps when wearing my headphones.  When I convert them to Vorbis for my smartphone, I usually use a quality factor that averages somewhere between 224 and 256Kbps.  Road noise is more of an issue for me than any distortion introduced by the lossy codec.

/192Kbps is about the lowest I can go before I can really start to notice the distortion
 
2013-01-11 03:06:56 PM  

lilplatinum: I bet you have lots of gold plated monster speaker wire to get even more audio qulaity that only you can hear.


Even on basic low-fi systems you can hear the difference between MP3 and the CD original, especially since most early files (you know, 1998/99 until fairly recently) were NOT available in 320kbps, but more like 128 and 192...where you couldn't even get decent stereo separation.

As I said, only someone deaf could claim there's no difference.
 
2013-01-11 03:18:39 PM  

Dinjiin: While I do rip my CDs to FLAC, to be honest, I can not hear the difference between them and 320Kbps Musepak, MP3 or Vorbis.  There are only a few songs where I think I hear a difference at 256Kbps when wearing my headphones.  When I convert them to Vorbis for my smartphone, I usually use a quality factor that averages somewhere between 224 and 256Kbps.  Road noise is more of an issue for me than any distortion introduced by the lossy codec.

/192Kbps is about the lowest I can go before I can really start to notice the distortion


Even at 320kbps MP3 there's an immediately noticeable level compression, limiting the already dynamically limited nature of today's recordings.
I'd never, ever want it as an archive format...unlike FLAC which is lossless.

It's sad how many people have turned over control of their music library to iTunes. My CDs are mine, I can re-rip them when I want, and in better codecs as they come along.
 
2013-01-11 03:59:35 PM  

peterthx: Dinjiin: While I do rip my CDs to FLAC, to be honest, I can not hear the difference between them and 320Kbps Musepak, MP3 or Vorbis.  There are only a few songs where I think I hear a difference at 256Kbps when wearing my headphones.  When I convert them to Vorbis for my smartphone, I usually use a quality factor that averages somewhere between 224 and 256Kbps.  Road noise is more of an issue for me than any distortion introduced by the lossy codec.

/192Kbps is about the lowest I can go before I can really start to notice the distortion

Even at 320kbps MP3 there's an immediately noticeable level compression, limiting the already dynamically limited nature of today's recordings.
I'd never, ever want it as an archive format...unlike FLAC which is lossless.

It's sad how many people have turned over control of their music library to iTunes. My CDs are mine, I can re-rip them when I want, and in better codecs as they come along.


Yup. Also, owning the actual disc establishes my license to have a digital copy.
 
2013-01-11 04:42:38 PM  

CyberDave: downstairs: DammitIForgotMyLogin: That sounds awfully familiar, I wonder if anyone has ever tried it before?

Exactly, how are they going to get around the legalities of this?

They've licensed it. I don't know why TFA didn't mention it, but it's on mentioned right there on  http://www.amazon.com/:

Dear Customers,

What would you say if you bought music CDs from a company 15 years ago...and then 15 years later that company licensed the rights from the record companies to give you the MP3 versions of those CDs...and then to top it off, did that for you automatically and for free? Well...we call it Amazon AutoRipand it's available starting today.


Your link only goes to the home page.

Got an email from a friend of mine who runs a record label. They did this to one of his artists, plus they didn't license it from them... which is one of his jobs and he would be the one who would also authorize it. They're not happy and I can see some serious backlash over this. Also mentioned that the mechanical license is more for the digital download than the physical cd.

Gonna be interesting how the labels will deal with this. I know of one that is not happy one bit...
 
2013-01-11 04:54:57 PM  

lilplatinum: People still buy CDs? I mean at least the idiots who buy records can stretch the "it sounds warmer" nonsense, but CDs? Really?


Some of us do tin ears.

Go back to listening to your Dr. Dre Beats ok?
 
2013-01-11 04:57:09 PM  

Tsar_Bomba1: Your link only goes to the home page.


Well, when I linked it yesterday, there was a big thing right in the middle of the home page talking about it. It's not there anymore.
 
2013-01-11 05:45:39 PM  

peterthx: Even at 320kbps MP3 there's an immediately noticeable level compression, limiting the already dynamically limited nature of today's recordings.


I've never noticed that before, even with my classical and jazz recordings.  If it is there, it is too subtle for my ear, which is weird because I pick up the ringing/underwater distortion really easily.
 
2013-01-12 01:07:32 AM  

wambu: AgentKGB: wambu: Yeah, I have some Fresh Beat Band and Laurie Berkner in mine.

/really, my granddaughter likes that shiat
//I'll introduce her to some Pink Floyd when she's older

Hey nothing wrong with Fresh Beat Band... that redheaded drummer mmmm (the original one not the girl they replaced her with).

I wonder why she left. Did not want to go on tour with the band?

Redhead Laurie Berkner could look hotter if she dressed better.


As far as I remember she got married and wanted to start a family.
 
2013-01-12 10:06:10 AM  

peterthx: Even on basic low-fi systems you can hear the difference between MP3 and the CD original, especially since most early files (you know, 1998/99 until fairly recently) were NOT available in 320kbps, but more like 128 and 192...where you couldn't even get decent stereo separation.

As I said, only someone deaf could claim there's no difference.


Keep telling yourself that, audiophile.. Rest assured, you are the only person who really understands music.
 
2013-01-12 11:31:35 AM  

lilplatinum: Keep telling yourself that, audiophile.. Rest assured, you are the only person who really understands music.


Being able to hear the difference doesn't make one an audiophile, nor does being able to tell the difference between YouTube and a Blu-ray make one a videophile.

You're just making excuses at this point for not having normal hearing, or at least some taste in music quality.
 
2013-01-12 03:56:48 PM  

peterthx: lilplatinum: Keep telling yourself that, audiophile.. Rest assured, you are the only person who really understands music.

Being able to hear the difference doesn't make one an audiophile, nor does being able to tell the difference between YouTube and a Blu-ray make one a videophile.

You're just making excuses at this point for not having normal hearing, or at least some taste in music quality.


Enjoy your monster cables and plastic circles that allow you to hear so much better than everyone else, sucker.
 
2013-01-12 05:46:33 PM  

lilplatinum: peterthx: So you're one of the deaf ones who think MP3 sounds good.

/lossy compressed is no substitute for lossless

I bet you have lots of gold plated monster speaker wire to get even more audio qulaity that only you can hear.


shhhh, you aren't as smart as you think you are.
/May the baby Jesus shut your mouth and open your eyes.
 
2013-01-12 10:02:33 PM  

lilplatinum: peterthx: lilplatinum: Keep telling yourself that, audiophile.. Rest assured, you are the only person who really understands music.

Being able to hear the difference doesn't make one an audiophile, nor does being able to tell the difference between YouTube and a Blu-ray make one a videophile.

You're just making excuses at this point for not having normal hearing, or at least some taste in music quality.

Enjoy your monster cables and plastic circles that allow you to hear so much better than everyone else, sucker.


As much as you'd like to pick fights with strawmen that even audio enthusiasts laugh at (audio pebbles, get your audio pebbles here!), there are real differences in equipment, and in recording techniques.  It's not hard to hear the differences when you know what to listen for.

It's like claiming that watching streaming compressed video on an iPhone is *just as good* as a BD on a 1080p screen. It's not; there are real and valid improvements that can be appreciated by anyone.
 
2013-01-13 12:09:58 AM  

Kraftwerk Orange: As much as you'd like to pick fights with strawmen that even audio enthusiasts laugh at (audio pebbles, get your audio pebbles here!), there are real differences in equipment, and in recording techniques.  It's not hard to hear the differences when you know what to listen for.

It's like claiming that watching streaming compressed video on an iPhone is *just as good* as a BD on a 1080p screen. It's not; there are real and valid improvements that can be appreciated by anyone.


I am well aware that lossless audio is different than compressed audio, but the people who act as if mp3s are somehow painful to listen to are farking ridiculous. The difference between a CD and an mp3 is nowhere near the gap between a youtube clip and a blueray disc.
 
2013-01-13 12:30:36 AM  

lilplatinum: but the people who act as if mp3s are somehow painful to listen to are farking ridiculous.


This is your strawman. Get over it, yourself. Stop insulting people - calling them "idiots" and "suckers".

"So yeah, I guess for those people who didn't have enough basic intelligence to obtain mp3s..."

That comment right there shows you were just trying to start a fight, so I guess you trolled the hell out of us.
 
2013-01-13 01:52:29 AM  

lilplatinum: I am well aware that lossless audio is different than compressed audio, but the people who act as if mp3s are somehow painful to listen to are farking ridiculous.


It all depends on the source material, the codec, the encoder, the bitrate and your playback environment.

I can almost always pick out a 128Kbps MP3. There is a signature distortion as a result of the compression that sounds like a ringing in combination with a gurgle that reminds me of sound underwater. I end up focusing more on the distortion than I do the music, so it ruins the experience for me. It isn't painful, like say nails on a chalkboard. It is annoying, like sitting next to somebody chomping on gum while at a show.

My girlfriend thought I was nuts. I pointed her to a website that took an audio sample and slowly degraded it from 256Kbps down to 64Kbps, then slowly returned it back to 256Kbps. Lather, rinse, repeat. She was totally able to pick it out after that.
 
2013-01-13 09:36:28 AM  

Dinjiin: My girlfriend thought I was nuts. I pointed her to a website that took an audio sample and slowly degraded it from 256Kbps down to 64Kbps, then slowly returned it back to 256Kbps. Lather, rinse, repeat. She was totally able to pick it out after that.


Do you have said link, out of curiosity?
 
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