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2013-01-10 03:32:26 PM

Mikey1969: I kind of wonder if the deniers here are the Fark shills... We should start a list. Everyone who claims that this is all made up sounds to me like they are trying to defend their own jobs.



Although shill theory explains many of the weird things we see around here on a daily basis, I still have my doubts. I really don't think this place is all that influential in the grand scheme of things ... unless there exists some kind of internet opinion extraction service that pulls comments from random forums and presents them to important people who act on that information, but that's really a stretch.

If there's any shenanigans going on, I'm having trouble believing any of it's meant to affect the world *outside* of Fark.com ... if you catch my drift.
 
2013-01-10 03:32:44 PM

James!: quickdraw: James!: sweetmelissa31: James!: Some people are so wildly self absorbed that they think people have to be paid to disagree with them.

Nobody thinks that everyone who disagrees with them is paid. But there are some fairly obvious trolls whom I'm sure you notice, but have your own reasons to claim they are not trolls.

Are they trolls or do they just not agree with the majority of farkers?  It's more conspiracy nonsense.  People think their opinions are so right and beautiful that anyone who disagrees is an obvious troll. Having a contrary opinion in a harsh way? Obvious troll.  Consistently having a contrary opinion? Obvious paid troll.  Having a consistently contrary opinion and not being banned? ZOMG OBVIOUS PAID MOD TROLL!!!

So are you saying there is no such thing as internet forum shills? Do you need citations?

Ive been participating pretty consistently in the poli threads since 2004. And the number of posters who I suspect are shills has  increased drastically since then. I expect that this has to do with political organizations becoming more net savvy in combination with Fark becoming more well known.

Back in the day when TGOT or Wever95 would post an opinion I didnt agree with it was pretty easy to tell they were sincere. When the Patriot Act came out it affected these guys big time. TGOT posted a sad and puzzled good-bye thread in TFD and Weaver95 eventually became a solid Dem supporter.

I notice you have been spending some more time in these poli threads in the last 6 months (?) or so and I , for one, appreciate an overt Mod presence. But to imply that I call someone a shill just because they disagree with me is a pretty glib insult on your part.

I am not a stupid person. I read very quickly and I enjoy a good debate. I am always respectful. I may tease a bit but I never insult. I really value a good opponent in a political debate. Unfortunately there are very few of those left here. Most of the discussions I get into with "conservatives" here at Fark ...

I'll try to address this, but there is a lot so I apologize if I miss something.  I've been around the politics tab for 6 years, I used to post under the username Barbigazi but about 2 years ago I decided to switch logins.  We do have a handful of habitual trouble makers on the site on both sides, but what I don't think a lot of people realize (or like) is how much leash we give to everybody on the site.  There's no requirement that arguments be interesting or original or good all we ask is that people don't flame each other or derail threads.  And we have come to consider troll accusations to be both insults and derailments of threads.  How many threads have you seen where the topic falls aside so that people can complain about someone they are sure is a troll and "why are they still allowed to post they must be protected".  What I think is worse is when someone comes into a thread trying to discuss the topic only to be shouted down by people who have already written that person off as a troll. I've seen it, hell I've been responsible for it before I was a mod I got temporary bans a couple of times..

Bottom line though is that we as moderators assume that everyone is arguing in good faith, and if it's clear that they're just around to cause trouble (and it has to be crystal clear before we'll give someone the boot) then they'll find they aren't welcome here anymore.  But we aren't mind readers and half the fun of fark is people goofing off and poking at each other.  I've seen liberal farkers tear into liberal farkers accusing them of being a rightwing troll over a joke. And I've seen people who everyone assumes is just a troll have completely normal discussions in other tabs.  And I've seen people who think they're helping by trolling the shiat out of people (which does not help).

I've seen so many weird conspiracy theories over the years about how the staff must be being paid off by one side or another that it's just silly to me at this point.  I don't take it seriously.


Heh...good thing. As far as the paid shill thing goes, yeah, it likely happens to a degree, but I suspect that mostly it's a component of a job, rather than the job itself. I once worked IT support for a truly rotten company. On a fairly regular basis they would ask us to finger an employee who had posted on any on of a number of websites that took issue with the company. We uniformly refused to do so based on two things. If they posted from home, tough, not our job to try to police attitude when someone's not on the clock. You want it to stop? Don't treat your people like garbage. If posted from work, well, yeah it's unethical, but since the genius micromanagers make certain that after a break, you're in a different cube, we couldn't positively make an ID and without positive proof, we were not about to provide a witch-hunt list. Not the same issue, I know, but the corps are well aware of the role the internet is playing in public opinion.
 
2013-01-10 03:32:46 PM

Nobodyn0se: sprawl15: And it's gotten far, far worse over the last few years, since that's an 'in' for being disruptive. And, from the end user perspective, I don't really care if the disruptive activity is honest opinion or paid troll, I just care that it's disruptive.

According to James!, Fark doesn't care.


Oh, but they do care. They care about very specific kinds of disruptive (non-over the top) activity, like calling someone a troll. If you say that someone's posts are worthless, you risk being banned on the basis that your posts are being disruptive. That's the ultimate problem - the horrific inconsistency of saying that disruption doesn't matter unless you're complaining about other disruption.

James!: For me, if someone calls you a retard that's just a personal attack but if they follow you from thread to thread calling you a retard and bringing up something from a thread two weeks ago that's trolling.


That's not trolling. That's just being an asshole, or potentially stalking. Trolling comes from the term for fishing - you throw out some bait and just let it sit there, waiting for 'bites'. This is a troll, through and through. And it's fine because of the moderating policy that if you aren't sure if someone is legitimately intending to post what they've posted, you have to assume it's legitimate. In terms of name calling, as long as it stays away from calling specific people names, you're golden. You can call the President a knob gobbler, or the DNC a knob gobbler, or all libs, or whatever, but if you call another specific poster a knob gobbler it's suddenly banbait. It's bizarre where that line is drawn - where you can be as uncivil as you like as long as it's not to someone else who is specifically a Farker.

And that rule can be gotten around by filling your post with content aside from the name calling - a post that says just "wow, what kind of asshole would post this" is immediately removed while a post starting with the same sentence before going on a 5000 word jazz odyssey isn't really removable. I mean, I understand that problem would be far more solvable if it allowed mods partial deletion of posts, but still.

James!: If we started booting people for having shiatty opinions we'd be empty in a week.


Nobody's asking for that. When people talk about contribution, they generally mean technical contribution, they want people to be involved in a discussion even if it's a disagreement. There's a lot of people with shiatty opinions who I really don't think are trolls; people where I think the world would be better off with them having a horrific threshing accident, who I know aren't really banworthy. And I probably politically agree with more of those people than I disagree with (to address one of your fallacies upthread). It's people who have shiatty opinions, express them extremely aggressively, and refuse to even enter a dialogue who demolish threads. libby2's posting of the exact same money tree and 3-4 lines of banal, offensive nonsense every other thread a few years ago is a perfect example - they aren't contributing in a technical sense, they aren't producing actual opinions. They are just starting flamewars. So the shiattiness or non-shiattiness of their opinion doesn't even enter the picture before I would consider them a worthless waste of pixels, because it's not the content of their posts that makes them disruptive.
 
2013-01-10 03:33:48 PM

willfullyobscure: I do that for free. In order to make people thimk.

fnord


Wasn't THIMK the slogan of IBN?
 
2013-01-10 03:34:07 PM
Is skookum here?
 
2013-01-10 03:34:36 PM

James!: You're kind of one the same page as me. Why would anyone need to pay someone to argue on the internet?


To stop the discussion.

Just look at a typical global warming thread. Instead of discussing the article, or the concepts brought up in the article, or the possible ramifications of the factual events described in the article, or possible solutions to the problems mentioned in the article, every single thread becomes a giant mucking shiatfest that the averge person would want nothing to do with

All it takes is for one obsessive astroturfer to come in and post a few really stupid, easily disproved "facts", and then follow it up by answering every single response with evasions, repetition, and lots and lots of insults, while ignoring any and all requests for actual discussion of the topic. One dedicated shill, paid or not, can completely destroy the entire conversation and make the entire discussion about HIM HIM HIM or force the participants to deal with the shiat-flood of falsehoods that he simply regurgitates en-masse in EVERY SINGLE DISCUSSION of the topic, regardless of how many times they are proven demonstrably false.

And thus pretty much every single discussion even remotely related to global warming is completely and utterly derailed and turned into a giant shiatfest that a LOT of regular folks will simply look at and say "Ew, why would I want to participate in that?"

Would it be worthwhile for multi-billion dollar international oil companies to throw a few bucks at some Internet Marketing Company to effectively shut down every conversation about global climate change on some of the more popular and well known internet discussion sites? I dunno, but the fact that there are companies that do Search Engine Optimization, Online Reputation Management, etc. I don;t really think it's farfetched at all
 
2013-01-10 03:34:38 PM
Has anyone ever changed their mind based on something they read in a comment thread? Seems like a big waste of time to me
 
2013-01-10 03:35:11 PM

Anti_illuminati: skullkrusher: Fluorescent Testicle: James!: Also we'll make a rule that people are required to debate you.  Not just debate you, but debate you in a formal manner.

Works for me. It'd certainly be more interesting than the usual 300+ post threads of "OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST BECAUSE [link to misspelled, thoroughly debunked right-wing conspiracy wingnut blog] AND EVERYBODY WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS A LIBTARD FLAG-BURNING BABY-KILLER" repeated ad nauseum.

You want people to stop saying that Fark has more paid trolls and mod alts than real users? Then stop acting as if the trolls are worth more to you than we are.

you realize that most people who say "OMG SOCIALIZZZZMS" around these parts are doing so sarcastically?
Honestly, what is there 3 or 4 posters who do that with any regularity and actually purportedly meaen it?

Well, if this was back in 2004-2008... yes. But its cleaned up... a bit.


Imagine how surprised we'd be If we discovered a time machine and went back and told our 2008 selves how much this place has cleaned up by 2013?
We'd probably be more surprised by the time machine but I bet we'd be a little surprised by the message.
 
2013-01-10 03:35:13 PM

Nobodyn0se: James!: Okay, lets just start banning anyone who isn't making a unique and original argument. Also we'll make a rule that people are required to debate you. Not just debate you, but debate you in a formal manner. That's be fun as hell for everyone.

That is an amazing false dichotomy you've got there.


You're like Scrappy Doo, you just keep going at your percieved bugbear with little stubby arms swinging.   What you are describing may be a problem but it is so got damned vague and ill-defined that it might as well be Ole Mr. Johnson projecting a ghost on the side of the old mill to keep Scoob and the gang out.

I can only suggest yoga and deep-breathing therapy.
 
2013-01-10 03:35:27 PM
Of course, the other side of this coin is all of the people who just fall back to calling you a "paid shill" when they don't like the debate.
 
2013-01-10 03:35:47 PM
written like a penthouse letter
 
2013-01-10 03:35:52 PM

CokeBear: Has anyone ever changed their mind based on something they read in a comment thread? Seems like a big waste of time to me


Now that I think about it, you're right. I hadn't thought about it that way before. I'm going to have to rethink this entire premise.
 
2013-01-10 03:35:54 PM

Weaver95: Carn: Weaver95: Carn: Weaver95: david_gaithersburg:
Harrisburg, PA. I see your problem there. MOVE! In the meantime, commute down to Frederick, MD.

tell me about it.  this place is becoming actively hostile to tech jobs.  i'm not saying our legislature is anti-technology but...well, they're still not sure what the fuss is about all those magic boxes people hold up to their ears and talk into all the time...'tis most unnatural!

I work for a consulting firm with offices in MD and VA (half federal half commercial). We usually have openings.

send me a link via ultrafark and I'll go check it out/upload an application and resume.  ain't nothing off the table at this point.

doneski

thanks man!  i'll go take a look.


No problem. Hope we have something that fits.
 
2013-01-10 03:35:56 PM

Nobodyn0se: Ok, my boss isn't here yet, so I'm back (for a few at least).

James!: If we started booting people for having shiatty opinions we'd be empty in a week.

Yes. And anyone who asks you to boot someone for shiatty opinions should be ignored.

That doesn't mean there isn't a serious trolling issue on Fark completely outside of the ridiculous "people who disagree with me are trolls!" dynamic that you seem to think is the only thing happening, despite mountains of evidence to the contrary in this very thread.


In this VERY THREAD!?? What I'm saying is that 90% of daily troll accusations are really just political disagreements.  I think we do have an issue with a small contingent of posters from both sides who can suck the fun out of the politics tab.  I think the troll accusations, the alt accusations, the automatic dogpiling on new users are part of that problem.  I also think the problem is that people take the discussions here FAR too seriously and bite peoples heads off at the slightest provocation.  People taking the whole tab too seriously is part of the problem

Like I said before though, I don't know you and I don't know what you've seen.  You're a liter and I know politics threads can get real ugly the higher the post count and especially late at night. So maybe I'm not seeing what you're seeing.  But that is why we have the red bar down across the bottom of the page.
 
2013-01-10 03:35:57 PM

CokeBear: Has anyone ever changed their mind based on something they read in a comment thread? Seems like a big waste of time to me


well...not ONE comment in ONE thread no.  But eventually you can gather enough evidence to force a change in opinion.  you start out trying to prove someone wrong and you end up proving them right.
 
2013-01-10 03:36:02 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: Is skookum here?


he was 20 minutes ago at least
 
2013-01-10 03:36:15 PM

xanadian: James!: xanadian: And it's green again.

If it keeps going from green to red to green to red to green red green redgreenredgreenred I may have a seizure.

Or I'll opt to watch some campy Canadian comedy sketch show.

Jesus Christ, they drove the man to watch Canadian television?  Monsters!

And after that, it's The Littlest Hobo.


Ack. Pfft. Thought they outlawed saccharine.
 
2013-01-10 03:36:20 PM

I_C_Weener: CynicalLA: Why would anyone choose to mod or admin a site like this for free? And why would should anyone believe this person when they are clearly trying to dismiss anything this article is implying? This shiat happens everyday and it will be probably be worse next year.

Do you believe in UFOs, astral projections, mental telepathy, ESP, clairvoyance, spirit photography, telekinetic movement, full trance mediums, the Loch Ness monster and the theory of Atlantis?


If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say.
 
2013-01-10 03:36:26 PM

sprawl15: Nobodyn0se: sprawl15: And it's gotten far, far worse over the last few years, since that's an 'in' for being disruptive. And, from the end user perspective, I don't really care if the disruptive activity is honest opinion or paid troll, I just care that it's disruptive.

According to James!, Fark doesn't care.

Oh, but they do care. They care about very specific kinds of disruptive (non-over the top) activity, like calling someone a troll. If you say that someone's posts are worthless, you risk being banned on the basis that your posts are being disruptive. That's the ultimate problem - the horrific inconsistency of saying that disruption doesn't matter unless you're complaining about other disruption.

James!: For me, if someone calls you a retard that's just a personal attack but if they follow you from thread to thread calling you a retard and bringing up something from a thread two weeks ago that's trolling.

That's not trolling. That's just being an asshole, or potentially stalking. Trolling comes from the term for fishing - you throw out some bait and just let it sit there, waiting for 'bites'. This is a troll, through and through. And it's fine because of the moderating policy that if you aren't sure if someone is legitimately intending to post what they've posted, you have to assume it's legitimate. In terms of name calling, as long as it stays away from calling specific people names, you're golden. You can call the President a knob gobbler, or the DNC a knob gobbler, or all libs, or whatever, but if you call another specific poster a knob gobbler it's suddenly banbait. It's bizarre where that line is drawn - where you can be as uncivil as you like as long as it's not to someone else who is specifically a Farker.

And that rule can be gotten around by filling your post with content aside from the name calling - a post that says just "wow, what kind of asshole would post this" is immediately removed while a post starting with the same sentence before ...


I'm starting to think I should just STFU, because you're saying all the things I want to say, but ten times better than I could.

Bravo, sir.
 
2013-01-10 03:36:35 PM

CokeBear: Has anyone ever changed their mind based on something they read in a comment thread? Seems like a big waste of time to me


You just don't understand how important my opinion is. Surely there are squads of paid operatives dedicated to changing my mind.
 
2013-01-10 03:36:54 PM
"Part of being a real man in this world is having real values that you stand up for, no matter what the consequences."

So he thinks women are allowed to slack off and not have real values? How about part of being a decent human.
 
2013-01-10 03:36:59 PM

CokeBear: Has anyone ever changed their mind based on something they read in a comment thread? Seems like a big waste of time to me


I've learned a lot of stuff here. Farkers are generally good people.
 
2013-01-10 03:37:43 PM

CokeBear: Has anyone ever changed their mind based on something they read in a comment thread? Seems like a big waste of time to me


I used to think that comment threads were a good way to convince people, but your argument against that viewpoint is very persuasive.
 
2013-01-10 03:38:01 PM

I_C_Weener: James!: If we started booting people for having shiatty opinions we'd be empty in a week.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x435]


BANNED!
 
2013-01-10 03:39:23 PM

brap: Popcorn Johnny: It's hilarious how many of you actually believe this.

Believe what?  Tell me what I believe.

I believe the children are our future.

- This post was brought to you by the Whitney Houston Appreciation Society.  At WHAS, we will ALWAYS love you.


I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don't have maps and, uh, I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should, our education over HERE in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, or, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future, for our children.
 
2013-01-10 03:40:00 PM

CokeBear: Has anyone ever changed their mind based on something they read in a comment thread? Seems like a big waste of time to me


I have. Numerous times.

James!: What I'm saying is that 90% of daily troll accusations are really just political disagreements.


So in other words, you're saying that "trolls are just people who disagree with you" isn't always the case, as many people (including me) have been saying for the entire thread?

Does this mean you'd actually like to discuss the actual problem of trolling on Fark instead of dismissing it out of hand as you've been doing?
 
2013-01-10 03:40:12 PM

Genevieve Marie: Weaver95: James!: I've seen so many weird conspiracy theories over the years about how the staff must be being paid off by one side or another that it's just silly to me at this point.  I don't take it seriously

nor should you.  I don't envy the fark mods or admins - you catch hell no matter what you guys do or decisions you make.  shiat - I'll bet you've gotta strap on body armor just to read the fark email inbox.  that said, while I and others might not always agree with or even understand your decisions, most sane people on this site understand that we're not seeing the same things you guys are seeing, nor do we - as regular users - have to put up with the rules, guidelines and management policies that you have to follow.

Eh, that's why we drink in the morning. It helps.


Hahahahahahhahah! Don't know why, but that statement struck me as a thing 'o beauty.
 
2013-01-10 03:40:18 PM

James!: People taking the whole tab too seriously is part of the problem


Look Mr. James!  If you think arguing politics with an I_C_Weener is funny, you just don't understand the power of "Someone on the internet is wrong!!!"
 
2013-01-10 03:40:42 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: I have an alt account. I would tell you the name, but since he's not in the thread, I would risk a ban.

/over 200 ignored (most are seasonal election trolls)


.
That much bubble wrap must be expensive.
 
2013-01-10 03:41:04 PM
I want to be paid to be an asshole instead of doing it for free. How do I apply for this job?
 
2013-01-10 03:41:21 PM

sprawl15: Nobodyn0se: sprawl15: And it's gotten far, far worse over the last few years, since that's an 'in' for being disruptive. And, from the end user perspective, I don't really care if the disruptive activity is honest opinion or paid troll, I just care that it's disruptive.

According to James!, Fark doesn't care.

Oh, but they do care. They care about very specific kinds of disruptive (non-over the top) activity, like calling someone a troll. If you say that someone's posts are worthless, you risk being banned on the basis that your posts are being disruptive. That's the ultimate problem - the horrific inconsistency of saying that disruption doesn't matter unless you're complaining about other disruption.

James!: For me, if someone calls you a retard that's just a personal attack but if they follow you from thread to thread calling you a retard and bringing up something from a thread two weeks ago that's trolling.

That's not trolling. That's just being an asshole, or potentially stalking. Trolling comes from the term for fishing - you throw out some bait and just let it sit there, waiting for 'bites'. This is a troll, through and through. And it's fine because of the moderating policy that if you aren't sure if someone is legitimately intending to post what they've posted, you have to assume it's legitimate. In terms of name calling, as long as it stays away from calling specific people names, you're golden. You can call the President a knob gobbler, or the DNC a knob gobbler, or all libs, or whatever, but if you call another specific poster a knob gobbler it's suddenly banbait. It's bizarre where that line is drawn - where you can be as uncivil as you like as long as it's not to someone else who is specifically a Farker.

And that rule can be gotten around by filling your post with content aside from the name calling - a post that says just "wow, what kind of asshole would post this" is immediately removed while a post starting with the same sentence before ...


You don't want us becoming thought police.
 
2013-01-10 03:41:43 PM

sprawl15: You can call the President a knob gobbler, or the DNC a knob gobbler, or all libs, or whatever, but if you call another specific poster a knob gobbler it's suddenly banbait.


Partially correct: An obvious troll can call a real person a knob gobbler, but a real person can't call an obvious troll a knob gobbler. Otherwise, you're pretty much on the money.

/We're all going to be banned (again) at the end of this thread.
//Whatever, though; I've been moderating for 14 long years and Fark's are the worst I've ever seen.
 
2013-01-10 03:41:59 PM

R.A.Danny: CokeBear: Has anyone ever changed their mind based on something they read in a comment thread? Seems like a big waste of time to me

I've learned a lot of stuff here. Farkers are generally good people.


Yeah, this. I maybe haven't straight up changed my mind...but many times I have seen something in a different way that maybe lead to a better understanding and viewpoint. Actually I know I changed my mind once, but can't remember what the topic was.
 
2013-01-10 03:42:03 PM

James!: You don't want us becoming thought police.


You're right, which is why nobody is asking you to.
 
2013-01-10 03:42:17 PM

Nobodyn0se: I'm starting to think I should just STFU, because you're saying all the things I want to say, but ten times better than I could.


I'm an asshole and enjoy trolling from time to time. If anything, I'm sick of these idiots besmirching the good name of trolly assholes.

CokeBear: Has anyone ever changed their mind based on something they read in a comment thread?


I have, quite a few times. The most prominent example would be how one well worded (and cited) post about the Constitutional legality of the operations in Libya honestly changed my mind. A lot of times, there's a memetic idea that people believe in that can be very simply disproved with a single well put together rebuttal.
 
2013-01-10 03:42:31 PM

Starryeyes: I_C_Weener: I ain't judging but what is "geometry porn"?

Flatland fan fiction.slash fic.


Be honest, now.
 
2013-01-10 03:43:28 PM

CokeBear: Has anyone ever changed their mind based on something they read in a comment thread? Seems like a big waste of time to me


Last night, I came back to a thread and a persistent troll had flipped sides and was posting quotes that just crushed his own earlier arguments.

Not sure if he changed his mind or was just a moran troll, but it was pretty cool.
 
2013-01-10 03:43:34 PM
Thought experiment: Is it possible to block every single person on Fark? And be greeted with just a blank comments page?
 
2013-01-10 03:43:46 PM

busy chillin': R.A.Danny: CokeBear: Has anyone ever changed their mind based on something they read in a comment thread? Seems like a big waste of time to me

I've learned a lot of stuff here. Farkers are generally good people.

Yeah, this. I maybe haven't straight up changed my mind...but many times I have seen something in a different way that maybe lead to a better understanding and viewpoint. Actually I know I changed my mind once, but can't remember what the topic was.


It's called evolving.

Someone actually thinks I'm a misogynist?
 
2013-01-10 03:44:06 PM

Nobodyn0se: CokeBear: Has anyone ever changed their mind based on something they read in a comment thread? Seems like a big waste of time to me

I have. Numerous times.

James!: What I'm saying is that 90% of daily troll accusations are really just political disagreements.

So in other words, you're saying that "trolls are just people who disagree with you" isn't always the case, as many people (including me) have been saying for the entire thread?

Does this mean you'd actually like to discuss the actual problem of trolling on Fark instead of dismissing it out of hand as you've been doing?


Here? No.

If you'd like I'd suggest writing something up and sending it into farkback.  You can even name names there.

I doubt that we're going to start policing peoples intentions though.
 
2013-01-10 03:44:15 PM

Weaver95: Mrtraveler01: Weaver95: david_gaithersburg:
Harrisburg, PA. I see your problem there. MOVE! In the meantime, commute down to Frederick, MD.

tell me about it.  this place is becoming actively hostile to tech jobs.  i'm not saying our legislature is anti-technology but...well, they're still not sure what the fuss is about all those magic boxes people hold up to their ears and talk into all the time...'tis most unnatural!

Unless you're using that technology for fracking. I can't see how you'd be surprised that the Corbett-led state government doesn't give a shiat.

his tax code changes are making me very nervous.  hence my desire to move somewhere less scary.


.
On the bright side though, you are living in a progressive led utopian city.

/You get what you deserve.
 
2013-01-10 03:44:24 PM
Trolling serves a useful purpose as often as it's disruptive, whether intentionally or not.

/amodestproposal
 
2013-01-10 03:44:53 PM
Well, I...a gift for me? Thank you! Is there any way I can avoid having my posts intermingled with the common 'liter gutter trash?
 
2013-01-10 03:45:11 PM
Link

Another school shooting
 
2013-01-10 03:45:12 PM
i262.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-10 03:45:29 PM

Weaver95: david_gaithersburg:
Harrisburg, PA. I see your problem there. MOVE! In the meantime, commute down to Frederick, MD.

tell me about it.  this place is becoming actively hostile to tech jobs.  i'm not saying our legislature is anti-technology but...well, they're still not sure what the fuss is about all those magic boxes people hold up to their ears and talk into all the time...'tis most unnatural!


Try Austin, TX. Tech jobs everywhere.
 
2013-01-10 03:45:47 PM
I can tell who these people are by the way the respond to my politically insightful comments.
 
2013-01-10 03:46:11 PM
I don't believe the article because I don't believe anybody would bother trying to influence the conversations in the sites the author lists. "Godlike Productions"? Even their own site description calls them a "lunatic fringe". The people who participate on such sites have no tangible effect on public opinion.
 
2013-01-10 03:46:12 PM
david_gaithersburg:
On the bright side though, you are living in a progressive led utopian city.

/You get what you deserve.


I don't actually live in harrisburg.  I just put that on there so that people don't go 'where the f*ck is THAT place?  it can't be real'.  plus, ya know...I do get death threats.  If someone DOES come looking for me, I'd rather them stumble around in Allison hill looking for me rather than get close to where I actually live.
 
2013-01-10 03:46:34 PM

R.A.Danny: busy chillin': R.A.Danny: CokeBear: Has anyone ever changed their mind based on something they read in a comment thread? Seems like a big waste of time to me

I've learned a lot of stuff here. Farkers are generally good people.

Yeah, this. I maybe haven't straight up changed my mind...but many times I have seen something in a different way that maybe lead to a better understanding and viewpoint. Actually I know I changed my mind once, but can't remember what the topic was.

It's called evolving.

Someone actually thinks I'm a misogynist?


A chick called me a misogynist once. I said, "My my, that is an awfully big word for such a good looking girl like yourself."

/not mine
 
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