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2013-01-10 12:05:10 PM

James!: and calling out people not in the thread.


Some of that mighta been my bad, sorry.  I meant it respectfully toward the person I mentioned, anyway.  Oh well.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-10 12:06:22 PM

James!: Rev.K: aaaaaaand red.

It looks like the powers that be rethought it since it's going to be a nightmare of troll accusations and calling out people not in the thread.


That would have been awesome!
 
2013-01-10 12:07:12 PM

James!: Rev.K: aaaaaaand red.

It looks like the powers that be rethought it since it's going to be a nightmare of troll accusations and calling out people not in the thread.


Ok, serious answer. I almost called out the infamous "tinfoil to keep God out of their brainwaves" guy. So, I see your point.

Ok, now back to the silliness.

images.sodahead.com
 
2013-01-10 12:07:48 PM

vpb: James!: Rev.K: aaaaaaand red.

It looks like the powers that be rethought it since it's going to be a nightmare of troll accusations and calling out people not in the thread.

That would have been awesome!


That would've been TFD.

HEY-OH
 
2013-01-10 12:08:11 PM

James!: Rev.K: aaaaaaand red.

It looks like the powers that be rethought it since it's going to be a nightmare of troll accusations and calling out people not in the thread.


if you chant my name three times, it summons me to the discussion thread.
 
2013-01-10 12:10:21 PM

R.A.Danny: Red?!?!?!  THE FIX IS ON!!!!


No kidding.  First greenlit, 100+ posts, no competing submisssions and not a threadjack or a trainwreck and suddenly redlit.

Great job mods.
 
2013-01-10 12:11:45 PM

mrshowrules: R.A.Danny: Red?!?!?!  THE FIX IS ON!!!!

No kidding.  First greenlit, 100+ posts, no competing submisssions and not a threadjack or a trainwreck and suddenly redlit.

Great job  mods. admins


That would frost my balls.
 
2013-01-10 12:25:00 PM
I was Teenwolf.
 
2013-01-10 12:29:34 PM

quickdraw: James!: sweetmelissa31: James!: Some people are so wildly self absorbed that they think people have to be paid to disagree with them.

Nobody thinks that everyone who disagrees with them is paid. But there are some fairly obvious trolls whom I'm sure you notice, but have your own reasons to claim they are not trolls.

Are they trolls or do they just not agree with the majority of farkers?  It's more conspiracy nonsense.  People think their opinions are so right and beautiful that anyone who disagrees is an obvious troll. Having a contrary opinion in a harsh way? Obvious troll.  Consistently having a contrary opinion? Obvious paid troll.  Having a consistently contrary opinion and not being banned? ZOMG OBVIOUS PAID MOD TROLL!!!

So are you saying there is no such thing as internet forum shills? Do you need citations?

Ive been participating pretty consistently in the poli threads since 2004. And the number of posters who I suspect are shills has  increased drastically since then. I expect that this has to do with political organizations becoming more net savvy in combination with Fark becoming more well known.

Back in the day when TGOT or Wever95 would post an opinion I didnt agree with it was pretty easy to tell they were sincere. When the Patriot Act came out it affected these guys big time. TGOT posted a sad and puzzled good-bye thread in TFD and Weaver95 eventually became a solid Dem supporter.

I notice you have been spending some more time in these poli threads in the last 6 months (?) or so and I , for one, appreciate an overt Mod presence. But to imply that I call someone a shill just because they disagree with me is a pretty glib insult on your part.

I am not a stupid person. I read very quickly and I enjoy a good debate. I am always respectful. I may tease a bit but I never insult. I really value a good opponent in a political debate. Unfortunately there are very few of those left here. Most of the discussions I get into with "conservatives" here at Fark ...


I'll try to address this, but there is a lot so I apologize if I miss something.  I've been around the politics tab for 6 years, I used to post under the username Barbigazi but about 2 years ago I decided to switch logins.  We do have a handful of habitual trouble makers on the site on both sides, but what I don't think a lot of people realize (or like) is how much leash we give to everybody on the site.  There's no requirement that arguments be interesting or original or good all we ask is that people don't flame each other or derail threads.  And we have come to consider troll accusations to be both insults and derailments of threads.  How many threads have you seen where the topic falls aside so that people can complain about someone they are sure is a troll and "why are they still allowed to post they must be protected".  What I think is worse is when someone comes into a thread trying to discuss the topic only to be shouted down by people who have already written that person off as a troll. I've seen it, hell I've been responsible for it before I was a mod I got temporary bans a couple of times..

Bottom line though is that we as moderators assume that everyone is arguing in good faith, and if it's clear that they're just around to cause trouble (and it has to be crystal clear before we'll give someone the boot) then they'll find they aren't welcome here anymore.  But we aren't mind readers and half the fun of fark is people goofing off and poking at each other.  I've seen liberal farkers tear into liberal farkers accusing them of being a rightwing troll over a joke. And I've seen people who everyone assumes is just a troll have completely normal discussions in other tabs.  And I've seen people who think they're helping by trolling the shiat out of people (which does not help).

I've seen so many weird conspiracy theories over the years about how the staff must be being paid off by one side or another that it's just silly to me at this point.  I don't take it seriously.
 
2013-01-10 12:34:54 PM
I think it would be funny if this thread kept going from red to green to red to green, and maybe some of the postings throughout were randomly removed, restored, others removed...

/why I'm not a mod or admin.
 
2013-01-10 12:36:58 PM

Dr.Fey: I think it would be funny if this thread kept going from red to green to red to green, and maybe some of the postings throughout were randomly removed, restored, others removed...

/why I'm not a mod or admin.


Oh god, that's tempting.

I feel like Fred Flintstone and you're the Great Gazoo.
 
2013-01-10 12:39:41 PM

Dr.Fey: I think it would be funny if this thread kept going from red to green to red to green,


Wouldn't it though?
 
2013-01-10 12:39:46 PM
Are they paid in shillings?
 
2013-01-10 12:40:09 PM
And it's green again.

If it keeps going from green to red to green to red to green red green redgreenredgreenred I may have a seizure.

Or I'll opt to watch some campy Canadian comedy sketch show.
 
2013-01-10 12:40:47 PM

brap: Are they paid in shillings?


That would make no cents.
 
2013-01-10 12:41:01 PM
HAHAHAHA!!!!
 
2013-01-10 12:41:21 PM

xanadian: And it's green again.

If it keeps going from green to red to green to red to green red green redgreenredgreenred I may have a seizure.

Or I'll opt to watch some campy Canadian comedy sketch show.


Jesus Christ, they drove the man to watch Canadian television?  Monsters!
 
2013-01-10 12:41:54 PM

James!: xanadian: And it's green again.

If it keeps going from green to red to green to red to green red green redgreenredgreenred I may have a seizure.

Or I'll opt to watch some campy Canadian comedy sketch show.

Jesus Christ, they drove the man to watch Canadian television?  Monsters!


And after that, it's The Littlest Hobo.
 
2013-01-10 12:45:18 PM
choosepp.net
 
2013-01-10 12:45:51 PM

brap: Are they paid in shillings?

Should I try the meatloaf?

 
2013-01-10 12:49:39 PM

mrshowrules: brap: Are they paid in shillings?

Should I try the meatloaf?


Don't let your meat loaf.

- This post was brought to you by The American Boner Council

- It was actually pro-bono
 
2013-01-10 12:50:22 PM

James!: I've seen so many weird conspiracy theories over the years about how the staff must be being paid off by one side or another that it's just silly to me at this point. I don't take it seriously.


Nobody said that Fark is getting paid by trolls.
 
2013-01-10 12:54:06 PM
I'm holding out for the Five-Headed Hydra of Zionist Media, the Gay Mafia, the NRA, and the Illuminati to get into a bidding war over my opinions.

KA-CHING!
 
2013-01-10 12:54:38 PM

sweetmelissa31: James!: I've seen so many weird conspiracy theories over the years about how the staff must be being paid off by one side or another that it's just silly to me at this point. I don't take it seriously.

Nobody said that Fark is getting paid by trolls.


Eh, there are often a lot of insinuations that paid shills that send of Fark page views are sheltered and protected or something like that. Honestly, most of it is silly enough that we tune it out.
 
2013-01-10 12:55:07 PM

sweetmelissa31: James!: I've seen so many weird conspiracy theories over the years about how the staff must be being paid off by one side or another that it's just silly to me at this point. I don't take it seriously.

Nobody said that Fark is getting paid by trolls.


Almost daily people say we're paid by WND/KOS/Daily Mail/Entertainment Weekly to green links.  And I said side not trolls, taking a side doesn't make someone a troll.
 
2013-01-10 12:55:08 PM
Send up page views, not send of.

Gah.
 
2013-01-10 12:55:50 PM

Genevieve Marie: Send up page views, not send of.

Gah.


Pricipal caught sayof?
 
2013-01-10 12:55:53 PM
There are some people who have their posts so obviously prepared for an argument they see coming, that it really makes you wonder sometimes. Obvious examples can be seen on both sides of an Israel / Palestine thread. I don't know if they are paid, or just bored fanatics with too much time.
 
2013-01-10 12:56:38 PM
This needs to go really green.

For about 7 minutes.
 
2013-01-10 12:57:10 PM

violentsalvation: There are some people who have their posts so obviously prepared for an argument they see coming, that it really makes you wonder sometimes. Obvious examples can be seen on both sides of an Israel / Palestine thread. I don't know if they are paid, or just bored fanatics with too much time.


Fark: Bored Fanatics with too much time.

Can we get that added to the slogans up top?
 
2013-01-10 01:01:55 PM

violentsalvation: There are some people who have their posts so obviously prepared for an argument they see coming, that it really makes you wonder sometimes. Obvious examples can be seen on both sides of an Israel / Palestine thread. I don't know if they are paid, or just bored fanatics with too much time.


Well, to be fair there are several topics for which I have an argument all ready to go.

Of course, in my case its because I'm always right, and I just want to share my brilliance with others. Unlike some people.
 
2013-01-10 01:02:06 PM
James!: I've seen so many weird conspiracy theories over the years about how the staff must be being paid off by one side or another that it's just silly to me at this point.  I don't take it seriously

nor should you.  I don't envy the fark mods or admins - you catch hell no matter what you guys do or decisions you make.  shiat - I'll bet you've gotta strap on body armor just to read the fark email inbox.  that said, while I and others might not always agree with or even understand your decisions, most sane people on this site understand that we're not seeing the same things you guys are seeing, nor do we - as regular users - have to put up with the rules, guidelines and management policies that you have to follow.
 
2013-01-10 01:03:23 PM

violentsalvation: There are some people who have their posts so obviously prepared for an argument they see coming, that it really makes you wonder sometimes. Obvious examples can be seen on both sides of an Israel / Palestine thread. I don't know if they are paid, or just bored fanatics with too much time.


yeah, but is that a paid shill or is it freeper madness contaminating fark discussion threads?  it cuts both ways.
 
2013-01-10 01:04:19 PM

Weaver95: James!: I've seen so many weird conspiracy theories over the years about how the staff must be being paid off by one side or another that it's just silly to me at this point.  I don't take it seriously

nor should you.  I don't envy the fark mods or admins - you catch hell no matter what you guys do or decisions you make.  shiat - I'll bet you've gotta strap on body armor just to read the fark email inbox.  that said, while I and others might not always agree with or even understand your decisions, most sane people on this site understand that we're not seeing the same things you guys are seeing, nor do we - as regular users - have to put up with the rules, guidelines and management policies that you have to follow.


Eh, that's why we drink in the morning. It helps.
 
2013-01-10 01:04:53 PM

R.A.Danny: This needs to go really green.

For about 7 minutes.


And then red again.

And then green after another 30 mins or so. Really screw with the liters.
 
2013-01-10 01:05:29 PM
/\
Now THAT'S trollin'!
 
2013-01-10 01:06:27 PM

James!: I've seen so many weird conspiracy theories over the years about how the staff must be being paid off by one side or another that it's just silly to me at this point. I don't take it seriously.


No one REALLY thinks that the unpaid admins and mods are part of the Vast Conservative/Liberal Conspiracy.

We think two things: 1) Politicians and action groups pay people to spread their message on social media 2) Controversial topics and inflammatory posts stir up conversation. Look, if we *really* only cared about the news, every link in the politics tab would be to reputable news sources, not WND and Breitbart. And I won't say that TPM and Daily Kos are anywhere as derptastic as those two, because false equivalency is worse than Hitler, but those four sites make up a large proportion of greenlit threads.

TL;DR- no one thinks you're Spiro Agnew, but don't be that guy who's SHOCKED to find gambling going on at this establishment.
 
2013-01-10 01:07:26 PM
That was a really poor piece of creative writing.
 
2013-01-10 01:08:42 PM

what_now: because false equivalency is worse than Hitler


lol that should be a slogan up at the top, too.
 
2013-01-10 01:09:35 PM

violentsalvation: what_now: because false equivalency is worse than Hitler

lol that should be a slogan up at the top, too.


Yea, I like that one a lot.
 
2013-01-10 01:10:08 PM

Genevieve Marie: Weaver95: James!: I've seen so many weird conspiracy theories over the years about how the staff must be being paid off by one side or another that it's just silly to me at this point.  I don't take it seriously

nor should you.  I don't envy the fark mods or admins - you catch hell no matter what you guys do or decisions you make.  shiat - I'll bet you've gotta strap on body armor just to read the fark email inbox.  that said, while I and others might not always agree with or even understand your decisions, most sane people on this site understand that we're not seeing the same things you guys are seeing, nor do we - as regular users - have to put up with the rules, guidelines and management policies that you have to follow.

Eh, that's why we drink in the morning. It helps.


heh.  i'll bet.
 
2013-01-10 01:11:26 PM

what_now: James!: I've seen so many weird conspiracy theories over the years about how the staff must be being paid off by one side or another that it's just silly to me at this point. I don't take it seriously.

No one REALLY thinks that the unpaid admins and mods are part of the Vast Conservative/Liberal Conspiracy.

We think two things: 1) Politicians and action groups pay people to spread their message on social media 2) Controversial topics and inflammatory posts stir up conversation. Look, if we *really* only cared about the news, every link in the politics tab would be to reputable news sources, not WND and Breitbart. And I won't say that TPM and Daily Kos are anywhere as derptastic as those two, because false equivalency is worse than Hitler, but those four sites make up a large proportion of greenlit threads.

TL;DR- no one thinks you're Spiro Agnew, but don't be that guy who's SHOCKED to find gambling going on at this establishment.


It's not news, it's fark.com.  75% of the users scroll right past news and jump all over a derp article with a crazy headline.
 
2013-01-10 01:13:54 PM

James!: It's not news, it's fark.com. 75% of the users scroll right past news and jump all over a derp article with a crazy headline.


Exactly. And you are going to get someone that whinges about the level of WND greenlights, but you know, sometimes you go to zoo to learn about the conservation plans for the Ocelot, and sometimes you want to see the monkeys fling poo.
 
2013-01-10 01:15:29 PM
James!:
It's not news, it's fark.com.  75% of the users scroll right past news and jump all over a derp article with a crazy headline.

lets face it - corporate news is bland, boring and excessively controlled.  one of the best things about fark is the ability to just unload on an article or topic without fear of being quashed by a series of automated scripts.  are there rules? sure.  and the lines are fairly well defined.  step over 'em and you'll know it...but even so, still we've got a LOT of room to rant.  And rant we do, about anything/everything.  ain't no sacred cows here.

the downside tho is that we get a lot of stupid mixed in with the insightful.  with a dash of crazy on top of it all.  which is great cover for paid shills to slip in their pre-digested talking points and then fade away in the background.
 
2013-01-10 01:15:58 PM

what_now: James!: It's not news, it's fark.com. 75% of the users scroll right past news and jump all over a derp article with a crazy headline.

Exactly. And you are going to get someone that whinges about the level of WND greenlights, but you know, sometimes you go to zoo to learn about the conservation plans for the Ocelot, and sometimes you want to see the monkeys fling poo.


This is always been a monkeys fling poo website.  We just prefer that the zoo patrons refrain from flinging poo as well.
 
2013-01-10 01:17:20 PM

Weaver95: James!:
It's not news, it's fark.com.  75% of the users scroll right past news and jump all over a derp article with a crazy headline.

lets face it - corporate news is bland, boring and excessively controlled.  one of the best things about fark is the ability to just unload on an article or topic without fear of being quashed by a series of automated scripts.  are there rules? sure.  and the lines are fairly well defined.  step over 'em and you'll know it...but even so, still we've got a LOT of room to rant.  And rant we do, about anything/everything.  ain't no sacred cows here.

the downside tho is that we get a lot of stupid mixed in with the insightful.  with a dash of crazy on top of it all.  which is great cover for paid shills to slip in their pre-digested talking points and then fade away in the background.


Or a great mound of shiat for their posts to get buried in and ignored.
 
2013-01-10 01:17:36 PM

James!: HAHAHAAH green? Oh fark.


The paid shill proponents have gotten to the Admins! Why is Fark hiding this? It must be true or Fark would not have silenced opinion and buried the thread!

That said, there are plenty of businesses who get hired to pump up products on the Internet. This is the same. I'm sure that there are people paid to promote stuff on Pinterest, Facebook and other places.

But James! Is right. People on the pol tab here just want to fight. They do it for free or pay to do it.

But I do really think that Coke Zero is superior to that socialist Diet Pepsi crap!!!! And I think Lincoln would have condemned Apple for slave labor. Buy Lenovo!
 
2013-01-10 01:19:04 PM
James!:

Or a great mound of shiat for their posts to get buried in and ignored.

not when you sock puppet.  which happens quite a lot.  I'm sure you've seen the screen caps and photoshops?
 
2013-01-10 01:19:44 PM

James!: I'll try to address this, but there is a lot so I apologize if I miss something.  I've been around the politics tab for 6 years, I used to post under the username Barbigazi but about 2 years ago I decided to switch logins.  We do have a handful of habitual trouble makers on the site on both sides, but what I don't think a lot of people realize (or like) is how much leash we give to everybody on the site.  There's no requirement that arguments be interesting or original or good all we ask is that people don't flame each other or derail threads.  And we have come to consider troll accusations to be both insults and derailments of threads.  How many threads have you seen where the topic falls aside so that people can complain about someone they are sure is a troll and "why are they still allowed to post they must be protected".  What I think is worse is when someone comes into a thread trying to discuss the topic only to be shouted down by people who have already written that person off as a troll. I've seen it, hell I've been responsible for it before I was a mod I got temporary bans a couple of times..

Bottom line though is that we as moderators assume that everyone is arguing in good faith, and if it's clear that they're just around to cause trouble (and it has to be crystal clear before we'll give someone the boot) then they'll find they aren't welcome here anymore.  But we aren't mind readers and half the fun of fark is people goofing off and poking at each other.  I've seen liberal farkers tear into liberal farkers accusing them of being a rightwing troll over a joke. And I've seen people who everyone assumes is just a troll have completely normal discussions in other tabs.  And I've seen people who think they're helping by trolling the shiat out of people (which does not help).

I've seen so many weird conspiracy theories over the years about how the staff must be being paid off by one side or another that it's just silly to me at this point.  I don't take it s ...


As a member of a mod team for a sizable offline Farker discussion group, I completely sympathize.
 
2013-01-10 01:19:58 PM

I_C_Weener: James!: HAHAHAAH green? Oh fark.

The paid shill proponents have gotten to the Admins! Why is Fark hiding this? It must be true or Fark would not have silenced opinion and buried the thread!

That said, there are plenty of businesses who get hired to pump up products on the Internet. This is the same. I'm sure that there are people paid to promote stuff on Pinterest, Facebook and other places.

But James! Is right. People on the pol tab here just want to fight. They do it for free or pay to do it.

But I do really think that Coke Zero is superior to that socialist Diet Pepsi crap!!!! And I think Lincoln would have condemned Apple for slave labor. Buy Lenovo!


Shut up, Weener you shill.

//This post sponsored by the Rand Corportation
///The Rand Corporation: What exactly do we do here?
 
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