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2013-01-10 12:00:00 PM
www.xlurbanmedia.com
 
2013-01-10 12:20:47 PM
And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.
 
2013-01-10 01:06:05 PM
Louis CK agrees.

/everything's amazing and no one's happy
 
2013-01-10 01:07:41 PM
You will be able to skip this advertisement in 10 seconds.

10 seconds, fark that, I can live without that video.
 
2013-01-10 01:07:43 PM

Walker: And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.


This.

Only two minutes before the kids come home and I need to rub one out stat.
 
2013-01-10 01:08:03 PM
video still buffering after 10 seconds. ad loaded fine.

yeah, I won't wait around for that shiat either.
 
2013-01-10 01:08:47 PM
Odds are the video will be junk, so why wait more than a couple of seconds?
 
2013-01-10 01:09:06 PM

Poopspasm: Louis CK agrees.

/everything's amazing and no one's happy


First thing I thought of
 
2013-01-10 01:10:26 PM
Good thing we passed all those network neutrality laws, right Comcast/NBC?
 
2013-01-10 01:10:28 PM
s3.amazonaws.com
s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-01-10 01:10:46 PM
Same thing when I see an advertisement on youtube.
 
2013-01-10 01:11:41 PM
As a professional man I have a great deal of important pornography to watch and no time to waste.
 
2013-01-10 01:11:58 PM
yeah.. I give you 5 seconds MAX and if you dont let me skip the commercial fark off then.

and yeah.. if the video dont start after 10 seconds of "waiting" as it downloads, I reload... reload, reload...

cause fark their server
 
2013-01-10 01:12:27 PM
My first method of online access was a 2400bps dialup modem. It took a good minute* for one screen of ASCII text to load line by line.

I can't imagine going back to that.

/* - +/- 20 years of faulty memory
//holy crap, 20 years? Get off my Fidonet point
 
2013-01-10 01:13:42 PM
So they said the internet is like a pipe... a tube if you will.
 
2013-01-10 01:14:07 PM

Walker: And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.


Came here to say this. My tolerance for advertising is remarkably low, so low in fact I'm happier to not to watch anything rather than sit through commercials.
 
2013-01-10 01:15:00 PM

Richard_The_Clown: So they said the internet is like a pipe... a tube if you will.

most cases for me its watching a pipe in a tube
 
2013-01-10 01:15:44 PM
I just remind myself of what it was like 18 years ago when I connected with a 14.4K baud modem. I'm sure my family has fond memories of not being able to use the phone for 10 hours while an 8mb game demo downloaded.
 
2013-01-10 01:16:14 PM

Poopspasm: Louis CK agrees.

/everything's amazing and no one's happy


"Oh really, what happened next, did you fly through the air incredibly, like a bird? Did you partake in the miracle of human flight, you non-contributing zero?
You're flying! It's amazing! Everybody on every plane should be constantly going 'oh my God, wow!'" - Louis CK
 
2013-01-10 01:17:47 PM
Even worse if you are watching multiple episodes of a ten minute show, with 30 seconds of ads before and after and a 1 minute theme song.

Screw you, linkara
 
2013-01-10 01:18:12 PM
Yeah, and those extended commercials on YouTube? There's this back button on my browser.

/what happened to the 13 second YouTube commercials?
/NOW! NOW! NOW!
 
2013-01-10 01:18:46 PM
I'll wait :15-:20. If it hasn't started by then, I'm outta there.

Let's face it, most videos aren't worth waiting to download.

I've seen enough cute kitty, doggy, baby videos by now, I think I'm good for the next decade, at least.
 
2013-01-10 01:18:54 PM

JesseL: I just remind myself of what it was like 18 years ago when I connected with a 14.4K baud modem. I'm sure my family has fond memories of not being able to use the phone for 10 hours while an 8mb game demo downloaded.


Important part bolded. And none of this zmodem auto-resuming technology either. We had Ymodem, and if the download flaked out at 6.2 megs, you know what we did? We phoned back, messaged the sysop to give us half credit for a failed download and then tried again. And we liked it that way.

/no actually we didn't
//zug zug
 
2013-01-10 01:19:25 PM

MayoSlather: Walker: And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.

Came here to say this. My tolerance for advertising is remarkably low, so low in fact I'm happier to not to watch anything rather than sit through commercials.


I'd almost be willing to pay Google $2 a month to never see a youtube ad again. I don't watch too many clips but damn does it suck to watch an ad.
 
2013-01-10 01:20:02 PM
Glad I'm not the only one.

I generally eschew internet video clips in general because of rampant advertising. It's not that I'm impatient, its just that I don't care enough about whatever silly dog shiatting on a baby nonsense is popular this second enough to put up with the minor annoyances associated with it.
 
2013-01-10 01:20:20 PM
Of course, it has nothing to do with people knowing that video that is slow to load initially is also going to interrupt with buffering for 30 seconds after every 4 second snippet of playing.
 
2013-01-10 01:21:32 PM

Walker: And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.


Same here. As soon as a commercial starts I click away.
 
2013-01-10 01:23:23 PM
I remember signing up for HuluPlus after a few months of quitting Netflix. First commercial comes up and i'm like, "WTF is this shiat?! Commercials?! I'm paying here!"

/but it's okay, cause Netflix doesn't have the Daily Show.
 
2013-01-10 01:24:07 PM
cdn4.staztic.com
 
2013-01-10 01:25:51 PM

Bondith: My first method of online access was a 2400bps dialup modem. It took a good minute* for one screen of ASCII text to load line by line.

I can't imagine going back to that.

/* - +/- 20 years of faulty memory
//holy crap, 20 years? Get off my Fidonet point


300 baud.
BBS biatches!

/Tradewars 2000
//Operation Overkill
///+++
 
2013-01-10 01:26:04 PM
Old news: it's so exciting.
 
2013-01-10 01:26:27 PM

Richard_The_Clown: So they said the internet is like a pipe... a tube if you will.


It's still a very good metaphor for networking.
 
2013-01-10 01:26:56 PM
I just recently moved and now I live far enough out of town that I'm stuck with DSL at the glorious speed of 1 MB/s...or so they claim, I've never gotten faster then 120kb/s downloads. Putting ads in front of my videos just pisses me off now.

/having a cable line dug to the house
 
2013-01-10 01:27:04 PM

TNel: MayoSlather: Walker: And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.

Came here to say this. My tolerance for advertising is remarkably low, so low in fact I'm happier to not to watch anything rather than sit through commercials.

I'd almost be willing to pay Google $2 a month to never see a youtube ad again. I don't watch too many clips but damn does it suck to watch an ad.


You vastly underestimate how much they get from those ads.
 
2013-01-10 01:28:10 PM
the fun ones... being in Canada tons of Content is blocked from the regular site because there is a Canadian provider or some such... or just because Fark you canada we aint serving it to you. But they still serve the god damn commerical up before telling us to fark off
 
2013-01-10 01:29:27 PM
The worst is when the ad is longer than the clip I'm trying to view. Road rage is the only similar feeling.
 
2013-01-10 01:29:50 PM
Come on, I don't have all second.
 
2013-01-10 01:30:47 PM
resonanceonline.com.au

"Hey, what the? Huh, the Internet King.
I wonder if he can provide faster nudity. "

 
2013-01-10 01:31:05 PM

JesseL: I just remind myself of what it was like 18 years ago when I connected with a 14.4K baud modem. I'm sure my family has fond memories of not being able to use the phone for 10 hours while an 8mb game demo downloaded.


suuuuuuuuure. A game.
 
2013-01-10 01:31:21 PM
Agreed on the ads. Agreed on lag times. One more thing to add...
I hate it when I'm watching a video, a music video, perhaps. And like half way through, for no apparent reason at all, it has to pause and buffer again.

Please, people... I have about zero patience for that. And you should see my wife and kids. I'm expecting one of them to throw the machine out the window one day.
 
2013-01-10 01:31:56 PM
So internet users understand the value of their time? Very rarely do I watch a video clip online that is important. If it is I'll wait, but hell I don't NEED to see the latest Gawker vid.
 
2013-01-10 01:33:25 PM

meanmutton: TNel: MayoSlather: Walker: And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.

Came here to say this. My tolerance for advertising is remarkably low, so low in fact I'm happier to not to watch anything rather than sit through commercials.

I'd almost be willing to pay Google $2 a month to never see a youtube ad again. I don't watch too many clips but damn does it suck to watch an ad.

You vastly underestimate how much they get from those ads.


I know they make a ton but $2 a person should cover the cost of all servers and upkeep. They can keep ads on the side just not in the clip.
 
2013-01-10 01:36:04 PM

JesseL: I just remind myself of what it was like 18 years ago when I connected with a 14.4K baud modem. I'm sure my family has fond memories of not being able to use the phone for 10 hours while an 8mb game demo downloaded.


Ah, the days of Case Western Reserve University and the Cleveland Freenet. UUEncoding multi-part video files (MPEGs would play with parts missing, AVIs wouldn't). Those were the days.

My lawn, get off of it.
 
2013-01-10 01:36:05 PM

TNel: MayoSlather: Walker: And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.

Came here to say this. My tolerance for advertising is remarkably low, so low in fact I'm happier to not to watch anything rather than sit through commercials.

I'd almost be willing to pay Google $2 a month to never see a youtube ad again. I don't watch too many clips but damn does it suck to watch an ad.


Firefox + AdBlock Plus extension = No Youtube ads.

Also install the extension "Better Privacy". Data trackers don't use HTTP cookies anymore to track and monitor you. That's so web 1.0. They use Local Shared Objects (aka flash state objects). Which is why you also want noscript extension installed.
 
2013-01-10 01:37:25 PM

durbnpoisn: Agreed on the ads. Agreed on lag times. One more thing to add...
I hate it when I'm watching a video, a music video, perhaps. And like half way through, for no apparent reason at all, it has to pause and buffer again.


Youtube is bad about that; worse, the loading progress bar will well past the playing point but the video will stop and buffer anyway.
 
2013-01-10 01:38:35 PM
I only get super annoyed when it's the ads that are buffering. Because I still need to wait for the ad to finish before I can watch the video, whether or not the ad buffers properly or not.
 
2013-01-10 01:38:44 PM
Ha ha yes this is the phenomenon I call "white people minutes", as those who spend much of their lives alone, or in the company of people who are forced to associate with them, and make very little money, suddenly "don't have time" for things. or their time is "too valuable".

Look at your paycheck and your social life, your time is not that valuable. What you are experiencing is called "waiting", and although white people seldom have to endure it, you can make it through this experience without going insane.

Some things that might help:

-Have something interesting to think about, like a problem you are capable of solving, but that can be solved in more than one way. Fantasize about a future moment of pleasure and try to really live it
-Acquire the self-discipline not to freak out at 30 un-entertained white people seconds
-Use the internet for its intended purpose: sharing useful information in the form of text content, which is not only more enriching, but doesn't take as long
-Get a better job and improve your social standing, to bring your own perceived value of your time in line with how the world values your time
-Get over yourself
-Go outside
 
2013-01-10 01:39:20 PM

DoBeDoBeDo: So internet users understand the value of their time? Very rarely do I watch a video clip online that is important. If it is I'll wait, but hell I don't NEED to see the latest Gawker vid.


This, or TruTV for that matter.
 
2013-01-10 01:39:38 PM
Dane Cook quote goes here
 
2013-01-10 01:40:01 PM

Mr_H: I just recently moved and now I live far enough out of town that I'm stuck with DSL at the glorious speed of 1 MB/s...or so they claim, I've never gotten faster then 120kb/s downloads. Putting ads in front of my videos just pisses me off now.

/having a cable line dug to the house


In the exact same situation. But just make sure you aren't mixing up your bits and bytes. A 1 megabit per second line, which you have, will transfer dats at a rate of about 128 kilobytes per second, or 1 megabyte in 8 seconds, because 8 bits to the byte.
 
2013-01-10 01:43:39 PM

mccallcl: Ha ha yes this is the phenomenon I call "white people minutes", as those who spend much of their lives alone, or in the company of people who are forced to associate with them, and make very little money, suddenly "don't have time" for things. or their time is "too valuable".

Look at your paycheck and your social life, your time is not that valuable. What you are experiencing is called "waiting", and although white people seldom have to endure it, you can make it through this experience without going insane.

Some things that might help:

-Have something interesting to think about, like a problem you are capable of solving, but that can be solved in more than one way. Fantasize about a future moment of pleasure and try to really live it
-Acquire the self-discipline not to freak out at 30 un-entertained white people seconds
-Use the internet for its intended purpose: sharing useful information in the form of text content, which is not only more enriching, but doesn't take as long
-Get a better job and improve your social standing, to bring your own perceived value of your time in line with how the world values your time
-Get over yourself
-Go outside


-Get drunk.
 
2013-01-10 01:43:51 PM

Darke: I remember signing up for HuluPlus after a few months of quitting Netflix. First commercial comes up and i'm like, "WTF is this shiat?! Commercials?! I'm paying here!"

/but it's okay, cause Netflix doesn't have the Daily Show.


The daily show website streams it for free.
 
2013-01-10 01:44:47 PM
Yeah! Screw those content producers! Why should they bother to get paid?
 
2013-01-10 01:45:01 PM
I was going to reply to this but it takes too damn........
 
2013-01-10 01:45:57 PM

HaywoodJablonski: Dane Cook quote goes here


You monster!
 
2013-01-10 01:46:29 PM
It's like when the Fark servers go down and I'm all like "fark this I'm going to go cruise Casual Encounters."
 
2013-01-10 01:49:31 PM

mccallcl: your time is not that valuable


It's more valuable than some video on the internet.
 
2013-01-10 01:49:45 PM

LeroyBourne: DoBeDoBeDo: So internet users understand the value of their time? Very rarely do I watch a video clip online that is important. If it is I'll wait, but hell I don't NEED to see the latest Gawker vid.

This, or TruTV for that matter.


TruTV is neither True nor TV. Discuss.
 
2013-01-10 01:50:11 PM

John Napkintosh: video still buffering after 10 seconds. ad loaded fine.

yeah, I won't wait around for that shiat either.


This is a particular problem on my Google TV. The ads never stutter or buffer, the videos often do. I guess the difference is that someone is writing Google a check for the ads, the videos are just in free YouTube parking and in fact may cost Google money.

durbnpoisn: And like half way through, for no apparent reason at all, it has to pause and buffer again.


This is exactly to which I'm referring. I can tolerate this when I'm just watching something on my own, but when I'm using YouTube to play videos for my kids to dance to (read: stop bothering me so that I can cook or clean or whatever) and the buffering is accompanied with a unison trio of "HEEEEEEEEEYYYYY, what did you do!" it is just too much. "Locked out of Heaven," you have f*cked with me for the last time!

Darke: /but it's okay, cause Netflix doesn't have the Daily Show.


You can watch complete episodes of TDS on thedailyshow.com, although the mobile version is not so complete whatsoever.
 
2013-01-10 01:50:28 PM

meanmutton: TNel: MayoSlather: Walker: And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.

Came here to say this. My tolerance for advertising is remarkably low, so low in fact I'm happier to not to watch anything rather than sit through commercials.

I'd almost be willing to pay Google $2 a month to never see a youtube ad again. I don't watch too many clips but damn does it suck to watch an ad.

You vastly underestimate how much they get from those ads.



And just if you want to see how much they get paid, go check out your favorite channel on Social Blade.  Then see how far your $2 bid goes.
 
2013-01-10 01:51:41 PM
i'll be honest. if i go to youtube to watch a video and there is an advertisement, i will close the window 9 times out of 10. i would rather not watch the video then watch 5 seconds of a commercial.
 
2013-01-10 01:54:02 PM

Mr_H: I just recently moved and now I live far enough out of town that I'm stuck with DSL at the glorious speed of 1 MB/s...or so they claim, I've never gotten faster then 120kb/s downloads. Putting ads in front of my videos just pisses me off now.

/having a cable line dug to the house


I have cable and DSL. The DSL is a lot slower but way more reliable and consistent.
 
2013-01-10 01:54:47 PM
there's this trolling video I've seen, which you are supposed to upload to Youtube... it's only a video of the Youtube "buffering" spinny thing.
 
2013-01-10 01:57:41 PM
Ah the new generation of Internet users.

I remember having to whack it to an 18 second "sample" clip of 160x120,15fps, 8-bit colour RealVideo that took about 6 minutes to load.
 
2013-01-10 01:57:42 PM

enderthexenocide: i'll be honest. if i go to youtube to watch a video and there is an advertisement, i will close the window 9 times out of 10. i would rather not watch the video then watch 5 seconds of a commercial.


That's because of your low expectations of the quality of an average random youtube video. If, for example, you were waiting to see The Hobbit in hi-def, you'd probably sit through a 10 second commercial. If you go to the theater you probably sit through 20 minutes of commercials.
 
2013-01-10 01:59:04 PM
5 seconds til skip? Ugh, Fine. Full commercial? Nooope.
 
2013-01-10 02:00:37 PM
When people are unwilling to wait a few seconds for a video to download, it signals that they really don't put much importance into the video.  They (we) are probably just wasting time.  OK so I won't get to see the cute cat/stupid stunt/TV reporter blooper video.  I didn't really care much about it anyway, I'll move on to something else.

If the video were about to show something you really needed or wanted to see, you'd wait.

It's kind of like walking into a restaurant for breakfast, and you see a long line, and you know you'll have a long wait for a table.  Probably not worth it.
 I don't see an angle to make some sweeping "stupid internet people are stupid" generalization out of this.
 
2013-01-10 02:00:51 PM

angrymacface: durbnpoisn: Agreed on the ads. Agreed on lag times. One more thing to add...
I hate it when I'm watching a video, a music video, perhaps. And like half way through, for no apparent reason at all, it has to pause and buffer again.

Youtube is bad about that; worse, the loading progress bar will well past the playing point but the video will stop and buffer anyway.


Youtube before Google purchased it, used to let you pause a video and let it buffer all the way. Now it will only a buffer the tiniest bit and will not buffer any more than that. It's annoying.
 
2013-01-10 02:01:10 PM

Arkanaut: LeroyBourne: DoBeDoBeDo: So internet users understand the value of their time? Very rarely do I watch a video clip online that is important. If it is I'll wait, but hell I don't NEED to see the latest Gawker vid.

This, or TruTV for that matter.

TruTV is neither True nor TV. Discuss.


What about FarkTV?.
 
2013-01-10 02:02:11 PM

Nexzus: Ah the new generation of Internet users.

I remember having to whack it to an 18 second "sample" clip of 160x120,15fps, 8-bit colour RealVideo that took about 6 minutes to load.


Video? As is something you could watch whenever you wanted? Bloody luxury. I had to wait until after 11:00PM on Fridays and Saturdays for Showcase porn to come one.

Or there was always the scrambled porn and the hope that picture would be randomly clear long enough to glimpse a slightly fuzzy nipple.
 
2013-01-10 02:02:23 PM

freeforever: The worst is when the ad is longer than the clip I'm trying to view. Road rage is the only similar feeling.


No, even worse is when the ad plays fine only to have the content completely fail, which happens more often than not on the MSM sites. I won't even try any more. Best bet is to close the video window before it even loads if you click on one by mistake.
 
2013-01-10 02:03:03 PM

Arkanaut: LeroyBourne: DoBeDoBeDo: So internet users understand the value of their time? Very rarely do I watch a video clip online that is important. If it is I'll wait, but hell I don't NEED to see the latest Gawker vid.

This, or TruTV for that matter.

TruTV is neither True nor TV. Discuss.


TruTv shows have approximately 8 minutes of actual content. The rest is commercials and then previewing those 8 minutes before commercial or recapping those 8 minutes after commercial and random shots of the city or building in which the content takes place.
 
2013-01-10 02:04:39 PM

Kibbler: If the video were about to show something you really needed or wanted to see, you'd wait.


really depends on the length of the video. if its one of those Watch this and find out everything you wanted to know about XXXX... even if XXXX is the most exciting thing in the world to me, if its longer then 2 minutes I really dont care to watch it. Send me a link with text I can read and skim over and I'll consume your information
 
2013-01-10 02:05:21 PM

CygnusDarius: Arkanaut: LeroyBourne: DoBeDoBeDo: So internet users understand the value of their time? Very rarely do I watch a video clip online that is important. If it is I'll wait, but hell I don't NEED to see the latest Gawker vid.

This, or TruTV for that matter.

TruTV is neither True nor TV. Discuss.

What about FarkTV?.


I knew that would come up eventually.
 
2013-01-10 02:06:08 PM

Nexzus: I remember having to whack it to an 18 second "sample" clip of 160x120,15fps, 8-bit colour RealVideo that took about 6 minutes to load.


Before someone picks up the phone and then there's the wailing and gnashing of teeth.
 
2013-01-10 02:06:41 PM

Prof. Frink: Only two minutes before the kids come home and I need to rub one out stat.


I know kids are annoying, but that's no reason to murder them!
 
2013-01-10 02:07:15 PM

Gunny Walker: meanmutton: TNel: MayoSlather: Walker: And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.

Came here to say this. My tolerance for advertising is remarkably low, so low in fact I'm happier to not to watch anything rather than sit through commercials.

I'd almost be willing to pay Google $2 a month to never see a youtube ad again. I don't watch too many clips but damn does it suck to watch an ad.

You vastly underestimate how much they get from those ads.


And just if you want to see how much they get paid, go check out your favorite channel on Social Blade.  Then see how far your $2 bid goes.


? Netflix costs me $8 a month for real content. I think $2 would be fair to get rid of those ads.

http://www.youtube.com/t/press_statistics

800 Million people a month, if everyone paid $2 a month for ad free content you would be at 1.6 billion a month! Let's say half subscribe to no ads and the other half doesn't that's still $800 million a month. I can't find any stats on how much they make but a few old sources say billions, and well they could easily dwarf that number by that nominal fee.
 
2013-01-10 02:07:28 PM

vodka: Mr_H: I just recently moved and now I live far enough out of town that I'm stuck with DSL at the glorious speed of 1 MB/s...or so they claim, I've never gotten faster then 120kb/s downloads. Putting ads in front of my videos just pisses me off now.

/having a cable line dug to the house

I have cable and DSL. The DSL is a lot slower but way more reliable and consistent.


Reliability has never been a problem with DSL, it's always been there, consistently at 120kb/s. The biggest problem is 1) there's no upgrade path, they dont have the equipment (unless they get a government grant to fund it), and 2) They charge $45 a month for the service. I can get cable which is anywhere from 10-30 times faster for the same price.
 
2013-01-10 02:07:40 PM
I can handle commercials. I can handle waiting a bit as the video loads.

What will make turn the damn thing off is buffering nonsense. The little bar shows I have 5 of 10 minutes 'buffered' but the farking video keeps pausing every 10 farking seconds. Hell. I'll even wait to 'buffer' the whole damn thing, but it had better play without pauses. If you can't get that right, just forget it.
 
2013-01-10 02:09:42 PM

Arkanaut: LeroyBourne: DoBeDoBeDo: So internet users understand the value of their time? Very rarely do I watch a video clip online that is important. If it is I'll wait, but hell I don't NEED to see the latest Gawker vid.

This, or TruTV for that matter.

TruTV is neither True nor TV. Discuss.


World's Dumbest seems to be an appropriate name for the content of the show, both in regards to the content, hosts and audience. Seems "Tru" enought for me.

...but then UltimatePawnTowReality show comes on...
 
2013-01-10 02:12:58 PM

Kibbler: When people are unwilling to wait a few seconds for a video to download, it signals that they really don't put much importance into the video. They (we) are probably just wasting time. OK so I won't get to see the cute cat/stupid stunt/TV reporter blooper video. I didn't really care much about it anyway, I'll move on to something else.


Pretty much. People not waiting for a video speaks more about the content than the user. If you want me to watch something, you'd better make sure that the video loads quickly, or that you've described it in a way that makes me willing to stick around. There is more interesting content online than I can possibly see, so if you can't get yours to me faster than I can go somewhere else, why should I see yours? This isn't about a short attention span, this is about people not doing even the bare minimum to make sure their content is seen.

A good example for me is Wimp.com. I'll spend an hour at a time just hitting random videos. About the only ones I'm nearly guaranteed to wait for are the TED talks, anything else better load right farking now or have a catch title, otherwise I'm hitting Random and watching something else.
 
2013-01-10 02:20:00 PM

kvinesknows: Kibbler: If the video were about to show something you really needed or wanted to see, you'd wait.

really depends on the length of the video. if its one of those Watch this and find out everything you wanted to know about XXXX... even if XXXX is the most exciting thing in the world to me, if its longer then 2 minutes I really dont care to watch it. Send me a link with text I can read and skim over and I'll consume your information


Sounds like a completely different issue to me.  If you don't want to watch an episode of Planet Earth, as an example, well that's your choice and I have no problem with it.  Feel kind of sorry for someone who's never seen it, though.  Although not half as sorry as I do for someone who has seen it and said, "BORRRRRRING!"
 
2013-01-10 02:23:12 PM

TNel: ? Netflix costs me $8 a month for real content. I think $2 would be fair to get rid of those ads.

http://www.youtube.com/t/press_statistics

800 Million people a month, if everyone paid $2 a month for ad free content you would be at 1.6 billion a month! Let's say half subscribe to no ads and the other half doesn't that's still $800 million a month. I can't find any stats on how much they make but a few old sources say billions, and well they could easily dwarf that number by that nominal fee.



Using the math of your link, and the math of my link, they earn between 1.5 to 4.5 billion a month.  There is nothing concrete in the math though.
 
2013-01-10 02:43:04 PM

Darke: I remember signing up for HuluPlus after a few months of quitting Netflix. First commercial comes up and i'm like, "WTF is this shiat?! Commercials?! I'm paying here!"

/but it's okay, cause Netflix doesn't have the Daily Show.


If I'm paying for a service, it will not have commercials.

Which is why I don't pay for cable. Or hulus crap.
 
2013-01-10 03:08:42 PM

JesseL: I just remind myself of what it was like 18 years ago when I connected with a 14.4K baud modem. I'm sure my family has fond memories of not being able to use the phone for 10 hours while an 8mb game demo downloaded.


Felt like a king with a dedicated line.

/test market for cable
//test market for FIOS
 
2013-01-10 03:22:50 PM
s2.postimage.org

Dwight: Man, the ad said to allow four to six seconds for delivery.
Cubert: *snorts* More like seven!
 
2013-01-10 03:25:14 PM

kroonermanblack: Darke: I remember signing up for HuluPlus after a few months of quitting Netflix. First commercial comes up and i'm like, "WTF is this shiat?! Commercials?! I'm paying here!"

/but it's okay, cause Netflix doesn't have the Daily Show.

If I'm paying for a service, it will not have commercials.

Which is why I don't pay for cable. Or hulus crap.


You pay for magazines but they still have ads. Paid subscriptions only cover part of the cost of streaming from some places, which is why you still have commercials. For no commercials at all, you're $8/month expense will jump up to $20/month.
 
2013-01-10 04:20:09 PM
It's not the time it takes for the video to load that bothers me, it's clicking a link to read something, only to discover that it's a video. I click Back or Close as quickly as I can before loud audio starts blaring. If I want to watch a video I'll wait for it, but most of the time when I'm looking for information online I want to read it and look at pictures.
 
2013-01-10 04:33:43 PM

President Raygun: angrymacface: durbnpoisn: Agreed on the ads. Agreed on lag times. One more thing to add...
I hate it when I'm watching a video, a music video, perhaps. And like half way through, for no apparent reason at all, it has to pause and buffer again.

Youtube is bad about that; worse, the loading progress bar will well past the playing point but the video will stop and buffer anyway.

Youtube before Google purchased it, used to let you pause a video and let it buffer all the way. Now it will only a buffer the tiniest bit and will not buffer any more than that. It's annoying.



I do believe that you are correct about the timing on that issue. Because, I do fondly remember thre pre-Google days where I would pause and let a video dowload while I went and made a sammich, took a whiz, or read some stuff on Fark. Now you can't do that.

//Shakes fist with fury!!
 
2013-01-10 04:38:55 PM

James10952001: It's not the time it takes for the video to load that bothers me, it's clicking a link to read something, only to discover that it's a video. I click Back or Close as quickly as I can before loud audio starts blaring. If I want to watch a video I'll wait for it, but most of the time when I'm looking for information online I want to read it and look at pictures.


All I understood was "I want to read and look at pictures."

Blasphemy!

/I'm with you though
//And I hate CNN for putting 30second ads on clips that are like 25seconds long. WTF is that sh*t
/News videos are the worstest
 
2013-01-10 04:53:21 PM

Bondith: Nexzus: Ah the new generation of Internet users.

I remember having to whack it to an 18 second "sample" clip of 160x120,15fps, 8-bit colour RealVideo that took about 6 minutes to load.

Video? As is something you could watch whenever you wanted? Bloody luxury. I had to wait until after 11:00PM on Fridays and Saturdays for Showcase porn to come one.

Or there was always the scrambled porn and the hope that picture would be randomly clear long enough to glimpse a slightly fuzzy nipple.


Ah ShowCase in the 90s. Waiting for 87 minutes after the announcer woman's voice said "contains nudity" only to see it was some dude's bare-ass.

Hitchhiker was always good for the low grade stuff. Red Shoe Diaries was even better. (Tasha Yar Naked!)

Of course, sometimes they did hit the mark with the movies. "The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover" was great. Even 45 year-old British bush was awesome to this hormone-addled 14 year old.
 
2013-01-10 04:59:31 PM

Nexzus: Bondith: Nexzus: Ah the new generation of Internet users.

I remember having to whack it to an 18 second "sample" clip of 160x120,15fps, 8-bit colour RealVideo that took about 6 minutes to load.

Video? As is something you could watch whenever you wanted? Bloody luxury. I had to wait until after 11:00PM on Fridays and Saturdays for Showcase porn to come one.

Or there was always the scrambled porn and the hope that picture would be randomly clear long enough to glimpse a slightly fuzzy nipple.

Ah ShowCase in the 90s. Waiting for 87 minutes after the announcer woman's voice said "contains nudity" only to see it was some dude's bare-ass.


Worst letdown one was a two-part anthology called Erotic Tales. The European stuff had naked chicks in it, but the Indian offering had no nudity and a talking fish.

Hitchhiker was always good for the low grade stuff. Red Shoe Diaries was even better. (Tasha Yar Naked!)

You saw that too, eh?

Some of them had a little too much plot between nipples.

We had a French channel (there are three French speakers in BC, so I'm sure it was only there because the CRTC said it had to be there) that would sometimes play old French movies. Old, bleak, black and white dreary French movies, with some topless chick sitting there mumbling in a depressing monotone and doing absolutely nothing interesting.

Still, when you're 13 and have never seen an actual breast...
 
2013-01-10 05:32:10 PM
 
2013-01-10 06:00:43 PM
If we had decent bandwidth in this country (the US) that people could afford, maybe clicking on an internet video would be more like changing the channel on your television.
Yeah, that won't happen... as long as the telecoms here can get away with the bare minimum speed for the crap maximum price.
 
2013-01-10 06:05:12 PM

rewind2846: If we had decent bandwidth in this country (the US) that people could afford, maybe clicking on an internet video would be more like changing the channel on your television.
Yeah, that won't happen... as long as the telecoms here can get away with the bare minimum speed for the crap maximum price.


There's the recession-ender there: invest in infrastructure to increase bandwidth, especially in rural areas, and provide jobs and economic activity as well as better access for online businesses.

Difficulties: Teabaggers, rich farkers, greedy cable companies, Republican pork, Democratic pork, the whole American political system in general.

/Might work in Canada, though
 
2013-01-10 06:15:43 PM
I also have no patience for web pages that sit there and slowly load every bit of art, adverts, and what not and the the actual words last. I check out quick.
 
2013-01-10 08:23:52 PM
I hate the Livejasmin popups. Videos load quick on comcast cable for me though.
 
2013-01-10 10:01:36 PM
your bandwidth and ping have VERY LITTLE to do with how fast the server farm responds to and at what transmission rate it sends to you...

Many porn servers are choked down heavily to keep from becoming peak overload problems and its well known that youtube constricts data flow on all videos.

If you don't know how teh intarweb works, you only look like a fool when you complain about it.
 
2013-01-10 10:45:42 PM
prjindigo: your bandwidth and ping have VERY LITTLE to do with how fast the server farm responds to and at what transmission rate it sends to you.

So ... you only watch one video at a time?
 
2013-01-11 10:40:25 AM
since when do you download streaming video?
 
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