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(NPR)   New study shows that internet users aren't willing to wait more than a couple of seconds for a streaming video to download. Dude, a couple of seconds? Who has that kind of time?   (npr.org) divider line 100
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2013-01-10 12:00:00 PM
www.xlurbanmedia.com
 
2013-01-10 12:20:47 PM
And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.
 
2013-01-10 01:06:05 PM
Louis CK agrees.

/everything's amazing and no one's happy
 
2013-01-10 01:07:41 PM
You will be able to skip this advertisement in 10 seconds.

10 seconds, fark that, I can live without that video.
 
2013-01-10 01:07:43 PM

Walker: And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.


This.

Only two minutes before the kids come home and I need to rub one out stat.
 
2013-01-10 01:08:03 PM
video still buffering after 10 seconds. ad loaded fine.

yeah, I won't wait around for that shiat either.
 
2013-01-10 01:08:47 PM
Odds are the video will be junk, so why wait more than a couple of seconds?
 
2013-01-10 01:09:06 PM

Poopspasm: Louis CK agrees.

/everything's amazing and no one's happy


First thing I thought of
 
2013-01-10 01:10:26 PM
Good thing we passed all those network neutrality laws, right Comcast/NBC?
 
2013-01-10 01:10:28 PM
s3.amazonaws.com
s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-01-10 01:10:46 PM
Same thing when I see an advertisement on youtube.
 
2013-01-10 01:11:41 PM
As a professional man I have a great deal of important pornography to watch and no time to waste.
 
2013-01-10 01:11:58 PM
yeah.. I give you 5 seconds MAX and if you dont let me skip the commercial fark off then.

and yeah.. if the video dont start after 10 seconds of "waiting" as it downloads, I reload... reload, reload...

cause fark their server
 
2013-01-10 01:12:27 PM
My first method of online access was a 2400bps dialup modem. It took a good minute* for one screen of ASCII text to load line by line.

I can't imagine going back to that.

/* - +/- 20 years of faulty memory
//holy crap, 20 years? Get off my Fidonet point
 
2013-01-10 01:13:42 PM
So they said the internet is like a pipe... a tube if you will.
 
2013-01-10 01:14:07 PM

Walker: And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.


Came here to say this. My tolerance for advertising is remarkably low, so low in fact I'm happier to not to watch anything rather than sit through commercials.
 
2013-01-10 01:15:00 PM

Richard_The_Clown: So they said the internet is like a pipe... a tube if you will.

most cases for me its watching a pipe in a tube
 
2013-01-10 01:15:44 PM
I just remind myself of what it was like 18 years ago when I connected with a 14.4K baud modem. I'm sure my family has fond memories of not being able to use the phone for 10 hours while an 8mb game demo downloaded.
 
2013-01-10 01:16:14 PM

Poopspasm: Louis CK agrees.

/everything's amazing and no one's happy


"Oh really, what happened next, did you fly through the air incredibly, like a bird? Did you partake in the miracle of human flight, you non-contributing zero?
You're flying! It's amazing! Everybody on every plane should be constantly going 'oh my God, wow!'" - Louis CK
 
2013-01-10 01:17:47 PM
Even worse if you are watching multiple episodes of a ten minute show, with 30 seconds of ads before and after and a 1 minute theme song.

Screw you, linkara
 
2013-01-10 01:18:12 PM
Yeah, and those extended commercials on YouTube? There's this back button on my browser.

/what happened to the 13 second YouTube commercials?
/NOW! NOW! NOW!
 
2013-01-10 01:18:46 PM
I'll wait :15-:20. If it hasn't started by then, I'm outta there.

Let's face it, most videos aren't worth waiting to download.

I've seen enough cute kitty, doggy, baby videos by now, I think I'm good for the next decade, at least.
 
2013-01-10 01:18:54 PM

JesseL: I just remind myself of what it was like 18 years ago when I connected with a 14.4K baud modem. I'm sure my family has fond memories of not being able to use the phone for 10 hours while an 8mb game demo downloaded.


Important part bolded. And none of this zmodem auto-resuming technology either. We had Ymodem, and if the download flaked out at 6.2 megs, you know what we did? We phoned back, messaged the sysop to give us half credit for a failed download and then tried again. And we liked it that way.

/no actually we didn't
//zug zug
 
2013-01-10 01:19:25 PM

MayoSlather: Walker: And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.

Came here to say this. My tolerance for advertising is remarkably low, so low in fact I'm happier to not to watch anything rather than sit through commercials.


I'd almost be willing to pay Google $2 a month to never see a youtube ad again. I don't watch too many clips but damn does it suck to watch an ad.
 
2013-01-10 01:20:02 PM
Glad I'm not the only one.

I generally eschew internet video clips in general because of rampant advertising. It's not that I'm impatient, its just that I don't care enough about whatever silly dog shiatting on a baby nonsense is popular this second enough to put up with the minor annoyances associated with it.
 
2013-01-10 01:20:20 PM
Of course, it has nothing to do with people knowing that video that is slow to load initially is also going to interrupt with buffering for 30 seconds after every 4 second snippet of playing.
 
2013-01-10 01:21:32 PM

Walker: And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.


Same here. As soon as a commercial starts I click away.
 
2013-01-10 01:23:23 PM
I remember signing up for HuluPlus after a few months of quitting Netflix. First commercial comes up and i'm like, "WTF is this shiat?! Commercials?! I'm paying here!"

/but it's okay, cause Netflix doesn't have the Daily Show.
 
2013-01-10 01:24:07 PM
cdn4.staztic.com
 
2013-01-10 01:25:51 PM

Bondith: My first method of online access was a 2400bps dialup modem. It took a good minute* for one screen of ASCII text to load line by line.

I can't imagine going back to that.

/* - +/- 20 years of faulty memory
//holy crap, 20 years? Get off my Fidonet point


300 baud.
BBS biatches!

/Tradewars 2000
//Operation Overkill
///+++
 
2013-01-10 01:26:04 PM
Old news: it's so exciting.
 
2013-01-10 01:26:27 PM

Richard_The_Clown: So they said the internet is like a pipe... a tube if you will.


It's still a very good metaphor for networking.
 
2013-01-10 01:26:56 PM
I just recently moved and now I live far enough out of town that I'm stuck with DSL at the glorious speed of 1 MB/s...or so they claim, I've never gotten faster then 120kb/s downloads. Putting ads in front of my videos just pisses me off now.

/having a cable line dug to the house
 
2013-01-10 01:27:04 PM

TNel: MayoSlather: Walker: And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.

Came here to say this. My tolerance for advertising is remarkably low, so low in fact I'm happier to not to watch anything rather than sit through commercials.

I'd almost be willing to pay Google $2 a month to never see a youtube ad again. I don't watch too many clips but damn does it suck to watch an ad.


You vastly underestimate how much they get from those ads.
 
2013-01-10 01:28:10 PM
the fun ones... being in Canada tons of Content is blocked from the regular site because there is a Canadian provider or some such... or just because Fark you canada we aint serving it to you. But they still serve the god damn commerical up before telling us to fark off
 
2013-01-10 01:29:27 PM
The worst is when the ad is longer than the clip I'm trying to view. Road rage is the only similar feeling.
 
2013-01-10 01:29:50 PM
Come on, I don't have all second.
 
2013-01-10 01:30:47 PM
resonanceonline.com.au

"Hey, what the? Huh, the Internet King.
I wonder if he can provide faster nudity. "

 
2013-01-10 01:31:05 PM

JesseL: I just remind myself of what it was like 18 years ago when I connected with a 14.4K baud modem. I'm sure my family has fond memories of not being able to use the phone for 10 hours while an 8mb game demo downloaded.


suuuuuuuuure. A game.
 
2013-01-10 01:31:21 PM
Agreed on the ads. Agreed on lag times. One more thing to add...
I hate it when I'm watching a video, a music video, perhaps. And like half way through, for no apparent reason at all, it has to pause and buffer again.

Please, people... I have about zero patience for that. And you should see my wife and kids. I'm expecting one of them to throw the machine out the window one day.
 
2013-01-10 01:31:56 PM
So internet users understand the value of their time? Very rarely do I watch a video clip online that is important. If it is I'll wait, but hell I don't NEED to see the latest Gawker vid.
 
2013-01-10 01:33:25 PM

meanmutton: TNel: MayoSlather: Walker: And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.

Came here to say this. My tolerance for advertising is remarkably low, so low in fact I'm happier to not to watch anything rather than sit through commercials.

I'd almost be willing to pay Google $2 a month to never see a youtube ad again. I don't watch too many clips but damn does it suck to watch an ad.

You vastly underestimate how much they get from those ads.


I know they make a ton but $2 a person should cover the cost of all servers and upkeep. They can keep ads on the side just not in the clip.
 
2013-01-10 01:36:04 PM

JesseL: I just remind myself of what it was like 18 years ago when I connected with a 14.4K baud modem. I'm sure my family has fond memories of not being able to use the phone for 10 hours while an 8mb game demo downloaded.


Ah, the days of Case Western Reserve University and the Cleveland Freenet. UUEncoding multi-part video files (MPEGs would play with parts missing, AVIs wouldn't). Those were the days.

My lawn, get off of it.
 
2013-01-10 01:36:05 PM

TNel: MayoSlather: Walker: And if they try to force me to sit thru a commercial first I'm outta there.

Came here to say this. My tolerance for advertising is remarkably low, so low in fact I'm happier to not to watch anything rather than sit through commercials.

I'd almost be willing to pay Google $2 a month to never see a youtube ad again. I don't watch too many clips but damn does it suck to watch an ad.


Firefox + AdBlock Plus extension = No Youtube ads.

Also install the extension "Better Privacy". Data trackers don't use HTTP cookies anymore to track and monitor you. That's so web 1.0. They use Local Shared Objects (aka flash state objects). Which is why you also want noscript extension installed.
 
2013-01-10 01:37:25 PM

durbnpoisn: Agreed on the ads. Agreed on lag times. One more thing to add...
I hate it when I'm watching a video, a music video, perhaps. And like half way through, for no apparent reason at all, it has to pause and buffer again.


Youtube is bad about that; worse, the loading progress bar will well past the playing point but the video will stop and buffer anyway.
 
2013-01-10 01:38:35 PM
I only get super annoyed when it's the ads that are buffering. Because I still need to wait for the ad to finish before I can watch the video, whether or not the ad buffers properly or not.
 
2013-01-10 01:38:44 PM
Ha ha yes this is the phenomenon I call "white people minutes", as those who spend much of their lives alone, or in the company of people who are forced to associate with them, and make very little money, suddenly "don't have time" for things. or their time is "too valuable".

Look at your paycheck and your social life, your time is not that valuable. What you are experiencing is called "waiting", and although white people seldom have to endure it, you can make it through this experience without going insane.

Some things that might help:

-Have something interesting to think about, like a problem you are capable of solving, but that can be solved in more than one way. Fantasize about a future moment of pleasure and try to really live it
-Acquire the self-discipline not to freak out at 30 un-entertained white people seconds
-Use the internet for its intended purpose: sharing useful information in the form of text content, which is not only more enriching, but doesn't take as long
-Get a better job and improve your social standing, to bring your own perceived value of your time in line with how the world values your time
-Get over yourself
-Go outside
 
2013-01-10 01:39:20 PM

DoBeDoBeDo: So internet users understand the value of their time? Very rarely do I watch a video clip online that is important. If it is I'll wait, but hell I don't NEED to see the latest Gawker vid.


This, or TruTV for that matter.
 
2013-01-10 01:39:38 PM
Dane Cook quote goes here
 
2013-01-10 01:40:01 PM

Mr_H: I just recently moved and now I live far enough out of town that I'm stuck with DSL at the glorious speed of 1 MB/s...or so they claim, I've never gotten faster then 120kb/s downloads. Putting ads in front of my videos just pisses me off now.

/having a cable line dug to the house


In the exact same situation. But just make sure you aren't mixing up your bits and bytes. A 1 megabit per second line, which you have, will transfer dats at a rate of about 128 kilobytes per second, or 1 megabyte in 8 seconds, because 8 bits to the byte.
 
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