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2013-01-10 12:23:57 PM
But there must be. In fact there is nothing-nothing-our political system needs more than a strong and well-financed moderate-Republican pressure organization.

I would say that the spontaneous combustion of everyone affiliated with the TEA Party would be a step above that, but hey, what do I know?
 
2013-01-10 12:26:20 PM
Moderate Republican? They're called Democrats now.
 
2013-01-10 12:26:42 PM
By reducing opposing views to socialism, you inherently eliminate the possibility of a moderate GOP policy.
 
2013-01-10 12:27:20 PM
I woulda said Keynesianism or Keyntuckianism.
 
2013-01-10 12:29:06 PM
You guys realize the economy destroying Republican bullshiat does come from the supposed "moderates" right? The entire point of the Tea Party is to act as a smoke screen so anything with actual numbers, even fake ones, sounds legitimate and "reasonable" compared to the ongoing derpstorm.
 
2013-01-10 12:29:32 PM
Well comrade, what do you think?
 
2013-01-10 12:31:10 PM
Does "Kentuckyism" involve the use of functional, opposable thumbs?
 
2013-01-10 12:31:11 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Moderate Republican? They're called Democrats now.


Charlie Cook (pollster) said that this election cycle most 'independents' were actually 'lean R'.

Real life - now just like Fark!
 
2013-01-10 12:32:14 PM
We call them Blue Dog Democrats these days, and they want nothing to do with the modern GOP.
 
2013-01-10 12:33:38 PM
McConnell's on the side of McConnellism. Remember that book Dubya put out a few years ago, which said McConnell asked for a troop withdrawal from Iraq for no other reason than the upcoming 2006 midterms? Did you know that McConnell's net worth rose 30% over a period of 2 years, 2010-2012? And how would an honest senator do that? The simple answer is, he wouldn't, but we're talking about Mitch McConnell. Fark that walking, talking pile of human refuse, and fark the disingenuous dickbags in this state that vote for him.
 
2013-01-10 12:36:13 PM
Is that a trick question, subby? Because I literally live 10 minutes from Kentucky. The socialism option wins in a landslide.
 
2013-01-10 12:41:52 PM

StopLurkListen: I woulda said Keynesianism or Keyntuckianism.


Kenyantuckyism?
 
2013-01-10 12:43:11 PM
Kentucky ranks 5th from the bottom in healthcare, has an 8.4% unemployment rate, and its state economy is ranked 46th. You can keep your "Kentuckyism" to yourselves, thanks.
 
2013-01-10 12:43:33 PM
In the meantime liberals will continue to bankroll far left candidates while insisting that you "moderate" yourself.

Case in point, liberals love moderate Republicans so much that they replace them with batshiat crazy people like Warren.
 
2013-01-10 12:44:34 PM

randomjsa: In the meantime liberals will continue to bankroll far left candidates while insisting that you "moderate" yourself.

Case in point, liberals love moderate Republicans so much that they replace them with batshiat crazy people like Warren.


What, exactly, is batshiat crazy about her?  Please, outline her batshiat craziness for us.

/who am I kidding, you're gone already
 
2013-01-10 12:44:42 PM

randomjsa: In the meantime liberals will continue to bankroll far left candidates while insisting that you "moderate" yourself.

Case in point, liberals love moderate Republicans so much that they replace them with batshiat crazy people like Warren.


*pats on head*
 
2013-01-10 12:45:57 PM
I read the article and there were parts of it that actually made sense.

One thing in particular is the notion that if you run a well funded and viable GOP primary candidate from the left of an incumbent, you may actually bring them a little closer to the center(less crazy).
 
2013-01-10 12:48:20 PM
Buckley once said that conservatism was :a man standing athwart history yelling stop".

Conservatism has since devolved into just random yelling of "socialism".
 
2013-01-10 12:48:31 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Kentucky ranks 5th from the bottom in healthcare, has an 8.4% unemployment rate, and its state economy is ranked 46th. You can keep your "Kentuckyism" to yourselves, thanks.


The Wall Street Journal rated our state government as the least effective in the entire country, and that was while Sarah Palin was still governor of Alaska.
 
2013-01-10 12:49:08 PM

randomjsa: In the meantime liberals will continue to bankroll far left candidates while insisting that you "moderate" yourself.

Case in point, liberals love moderate Republicans so much that they replace them with batshiat crazy people like Warren.


Butthurt noted.
 
2013-01-10 12:55:33 PM
I live in NKY. in reality, socialism wins here. everything in this state that isn't A)Lexington, B)Louisville or C)attached to cincy(me, yay) would wither and die without federal dollars. I don't know the numbers, but I'd guess that upwards of 50% of people in my city(newport) are on some sort of federal or state assistance.

there has been some backlash against McTurtle locally for his role in the fiscal cliff deal. they think he "failed in his conservative duty" or some other such derp.

I hope he gets primaried out by some tea tard who then loses to someone not insane or reptilian.
 
2013-01-10 12:56:37 PM
I'm definitely on the side of Kentucky Fried Chickenism.
 
2013-01-10 01:01:38 PM

randomjsa: In the meantime liberals will continue to bankroll far left candidates while insisting that you "moderate" yourself.

Case in point, liberals love moderate Republicans so much that they replace them with batshiat crazy people like Warren.


If she's your definition of batshiat, you've walked off the map as far as reasonable discourse. Disagreeing with her positions is one thing, but to think of Warren as some sort of crazy moonbat puts you firmly in the realm of needing serious psychological intervention.
 
2013-01-10 01:02:19 PM
In fact there is nothing-nothing-our political system needs more than a strong and well-financed moderate-Republican pressure organization.

We have that.

It's called the Democratic National Committee.
 
2013-01-10 01:06:37 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Kentucky ranks 5th from the bottom in healthcare, has an 8.4% unemployment rate, and its state economy is ranked 46th. You can keep your "Kentuckyism" to yourselves, thanks.


And rather than fund anything to help its citizens, it puts millions of its taxpayer dollars into Ark Parks.
 
2013-01-10 01:07:41 PM

randomjsa: In the meantime liberals will continue to bankroll far left candidates while insisting that you "moderate" yourself.

Case in point, liberals love moderate Republicans so much that they replace them with batshiat crazy people like Warren.


I'M NOT WALKING FURTHER TO THE RIGHT, THE WORLD IS SHIFTING UNDER MY FEET TO THE LEFT!
 
2013-01-10 01:09:41 PM

meat0918: We call them Blue Dog Democrats these days, and they want nothing to do with the modern GOP.



No, they were called Blue Dog Democrats, and they are dying off. The Democratic party has been far more efficient at removing their slightly right of center members than the Republicans have.
 
2013-01-10 01:11:08 PM
Second, start an organization to recruit young people, activists of all ages, and potential candidates. Start college campus clubs and newspapers or magazines. Host big conferences in Washington and elsewhere. Give people a sense of an extant community.

The GOP has this, it's called Church. Problem is modern, socially bankrupt young adults (Under 25) are turned off by Religion. You can then turn to the Boyscouts, another staple of the right wing ideology, but they're also now steeped in child molestation coverups, and anti-gay rights. So you're left with old people who fear change, rich people who fear taxes, and people with a bible as a suppository who fear anything but themselves.

Good luck finding a way to make any of that demographic seek compromise. Something that the Tea Party is finding difficult to do, and that gaggle of retards is what the GOP is quickly becoming.
 
2013-01-10 01:11:17 PM
What an amazingly easy question to answer.
 
2013-01-10 01:12:18 PM

randomjsa: In the meantime liberals ...



Y'know, once upon a time, in my opinion you regularly made valid points that were uncomfortable for libs like me to read but were worth reading.

But for a while now you've just been tedious. Maybe for Raharu's birthday, or someday when he's having a bad day, I'll put you on my ignore list just to cheer him up a little.
 
2013-01-10 01:13:48 PM

SuperT: I live in NKY. in reality, socialism wins here. everything in this state that isn't A)Lexington, B)Louisville or C)attached to cincy(me, yay) would wither and die without federal dollars. I don't know the numbers, but I'd guess that upwards of 50% of people in my city(newport) are on some sort of federal or state assistance.

there has been some backlash against McTurtle locally for his role in the fiscal cliff deal. they think he "failed in his conservative duty" or some other such derp.

I hope he gets primaried out by some tea tard who then loses to someone not insane or reptilian.


Amen. I live in Northeastern Ky, welfare central. 71% of kids at my son's school are eligible for free or reduced breakfast and lunch. Yet they alllllll vote Republican (the parents, not the kids, I think....). I was the only one in my entire neighborhood with an Obama yard sign (got it just to piss off the neighbors), and the only one with the "Ditch Mitch" card. Can't even pass a 3% utility levy for the school because the idiots don't want to better themselves.

/ready to head for Lexington where the derp is slightly less.
 
2013-01-10 01:14:13 PM
The bigges "libertarian" asshole I've ever met on teh intertubes was from Kentucky.

Seriously, fark that place.
 
2013-01-10 01:15:40 PM
If those two are my only choices I guess I have to choose Socialism.
 
2013-01-10 01:17:34 PM
I'm against that turtle looking motherfarker so that means I'm a socialist? Okay then.
/fark him,Rand Paul and Hal Rogers.

Trapper439: The bigges "libertarian" asshole I've ever met on teh intertubes was from Kentucky.

Seriously, fark that place.


It's rare but not all of us are retarded republicans or derpy libertarians. There's a few democrats here and there.
 
2013-01-10 01:18:16 PM

QueenMamaBee: SuperT: I live in NKY. in reality, socialism wins here. everything in this state that isn't A)Lexington, B)Louisville or C)attached to cincy(me, yay) would wither and die without federal dollars. I don't know the numbers, but I'd guess that upwards of 50% of people in my city(newport) are on some sort of federal or state assistance.

there has been some backlash against McTurtle locally for his role in the fiscal cliff deal. they think he "failed in his conservative duty" or some other such derp.

I hope he gets primaried out by some tea tard who then loses to someone not insane or reptilian.

Amen. I live in Northeastern Ky, welfare central. 71% of kids at my son's school are eligible for free or reduced breakfast and lunch. Yet they alllllll vote Republican (the parents, not the kids, I think....). I was the only one in my entire neighborhood with an Obama yard sign (got it just to piss off the neighbors), and the only one with the "Ditch Mitch" card. Can't even pass a 3% utility levy for the school because the idiots don't want to better themselves.

/ready to head for Lexington where the derp is slightly less.


Come to nky, we need more people like you. I feel sorry for the people here, trapped in cycles of poverty and poor education.

the vast majority of this country's rural population has been hoodwinked to support policy counter to their best interest.
 
2013-01-10 01:18:52 PM
Sheesh. You have NO idea how much I wish I could say, "C'mon now, Kentucky isn't that bad..." but I've lived here for nearly 8 years now. -_-; Previous post was right, er, correct... if it's not Lexington, Louisville, or technically part of Cinci, this state is nuts. And far too many people consider it their civic duty to smoke to support the tobacco farmers...
 
2013-01-10 01:19:54 PM

Ashyukun: Sheesh. You have NO idea how much I wish I could say, "C'mon now, Kentucky isn't that bad..." but I've lived here for nearly 8 years now. -_-; Previous post was right, er, correct... if it's not Lexington, Louisville, or technically part of Cinci, this state is nuts. And far too many people consider it their civic duty to smoke to support the tobacco farmers...


So you've met my father....
 
2013-01-10 01:20:05 PM
Ironic and provocative phrasing with that ad campaign and their "Which Side Are You On" nonsense.

I wish the '20s and '30s were fresher in the memory of the "Common working man", they'd see nothing for them in the rhetoric of people like Bozell and Limbaugh.
 
2013-01-10 01:20:26 PM
Dear Kentucky,

i48.tinypic.com

They've been the same thing for decades. You leaching motherf***ers.

Yours with love,
People With Teeth.
 
2013-01-10 01:21:52 PM

Ashyukun: Sheesh. You have NO idea how much I wish I could say, "C'mon now, Kentucky isn't that bad..." but I've lived here for nearly 8 years now. -_-; Previous post was right, er, correct... if it's not Lexington, Louisville, or technically part of Cinci, this state is nuts. And far too many people consider it their civic duty to smoke to support the tobacco farmers...


and these people biatching that "environmentalism kills coal jobs!" as if A)it wasn't the vast amount of cheap NG from ohio and B)coal jobs are the best we should want for our kids as if there is nothing else we could do here.
 
2013-01-10 01:25:03 PM

SuperT: and these people biatching that "environmentalism kills coal jobs!" as if A)it wasn't the vast amount of cheap NG from ohio and B)coal jobs are the best we should want for our kids as if there is nothing else we could do here.


I hate that bullshiat. The mines contributed to the deaths of both my grandfathers and my fiance's brother in law. fark the coal mines. Hell the place I grew up used to be the dump for the Hard and Burly mining company.
 
2013-01-10 01:25:58 PM

Jackpot777: Dear Kentucky,

[i48.tinypic.com image 800x588]

They've been the same thing for decades. You leaching motherf***ers.

Yours with love,
People With Teeth.


...... and opposable thumbs.
 
2013-01-10 01:30:52 PM

QueenMamaBee: SuperT: I live in NKY. in reality, socialism wins here. everything in this state that isn't A)Lexington, B)Louisville or C)attached to cincy(me, yay) would wither and die without federal dollars. I don't know the numbers, but I'd guess that upwards of 50% of people in my city(newport) are on some sort of federal or state assistance.

there has been some backlash against McTurtle locally for his role in the fiscal cliff deal. they think he "failed in his conservative duty" or some other such derp.

I hope he gets primaried out by some tea tard who then loses to someone not insane or reptilian.

Amen. I live in Northeastern Ky, welfare central. 71% of kids at my son's school are eligible for free or reduced breakfast and lunch. Yet they alllllll vote Republican (the parents, not the kids, I think....). I was the only one in my entire neighborhood with an Obama yard sign (got it just to piss off the neighbors), and the only one with the "Ditch Mitch" card. Can't even pass a 3% utility levy for the school because the idiots don't want to better themselves.

/ready to head for Lexington where the derp is slightly less.


Live in Lexington. Pretty sure the derp is not, in fact, less.
Cant wait to get back to Louisville. Somebody give me a job!
 
2013-01-10 01:31:30 PM
It would be better if conservatism as a whole would simply die out. It's a failed thinly veiled ideology that is packaged as patriotism, and fiscal responsibility, but in reality is nothing more than a system designed to prey on a fearful underclass in an attempt to satiate the avarice of the wealthy.
 
2013-01-10 01:37:42 PM

Zafayal: I'm definitely on the side of Kentucky Fried Chickenism.


ORINO!

(Original recipe in name only!)
 
2013-01-10 01:43:22 PM

Arkanaut: StopLurkListen: I woulda said Keynesianism or Keyntuckianism.

Kenyantuckyism?


I'm guessing it's some obscure reference to some bootstrappy Kentucky Regiment. Everything is a violence/gun metaphor for these assholes.
 
2013-01-10 01:47:02 PM

QueenMamaBee: SuperT: I live in NKY. in reality, socialism wins here. everything in this state that isn't A)Lexington, B)Louisville or C)attached to cincy(me, yay) would wither and die without federal dollars. I don't know the numbers, but I'd guess that upwards of 50% of people in my city(newport) are on some sort of federal or state assistance.

there has been some backlash against McTurtle locally for his role in the fiscal cliff deal. they think he "failed in his conservative duty" or some other such derp.

I hope he gets primaried out by some tea tard who then loses to someone not insane or reptilian.

Amen. I live in Northeastern Ky, welfare central. 71% of kids at my son's school are eligible for free or reduced breakfast and lunch. Yet they alllllll vote Republican (the parents, not the kids, I think....). I was the only one in my entire neighborhood with an Obama yard sign (got it just to piss off the neighbors), and the only one with the "Ditch Mitch" card. Can't even pass a 3% utility levy for the school because the idiots don't want to better themselves.

/ready to head for Lexington where the derp is slightly less.


I'll third this, then. North central Kentucky. Bunch of lazy people cheating welfare and selling the food they get with the food tickets to buy cigarettes. To a one they are all determined that it's black people cheating welfare and they can't get jobs because the Mexicans have taken them all. You know how funny it is to hear someone who has no job complain about how Obama's going to raise their taxes? And yes, terrible schools. Because a decent civics lesson might de-derp someone.
 
2013-01-10 01:47:17 PM

urbangirl: QueenMamaBee: SuperT: I live in NKY. in reality, socialism wins here. everything in this state that isn't A)Lexington, B)Louisville or C)attached to cincy(me, yay) would wither and die without federal dollars. I don't know the numbers, but I'd guess that upwards of 50% of people in my city(newport) are on some sort of federal or state assistance.

there has been some backlash against McTurtle locally for his role in the fiscal cliff deal. they think he "failed in his conservative duty" or some other such derp.

I hope he gets primaried out by some tea tard who then loses to someone not insane or reptilian.

Amen. I live in Northeastern Ky, welfare central. 71% of kids at my son's school are eligible for free or reduced breakfast and lunch. Yet they alllllll vote Republican (the parents, not the kids, I think....). I was the only one in my entire neighborhood with an Obama yard sign (got it just to piss off the neighbors), and the only one with the "Ditch Mitch" card. Can't even pass a 3% utility levy for the school because the idiots don't want to better themselves.

/ready to head for Lexington where the derp is slightly less.

Live in Lexington. Pretty sure the derp is not, in fact, less.
Cant wait to get back to Louisville. Somebody give me a job!


cincy is really starting to get back on it's feet after the rust belt era, we've got jobs left and right. what is your field?

also, lousville is cool and all(I was born there), but the Queen City is the best.
 
2013-01-10 01:50:03 PM

SuperT: urbangirl:
also, lousville is cool and all(I was born there), but the Queen City is the best.

Are you kidding? Cincinnati was ground zero when they dropped the atomic derp bomb. Everyone I meet here seems to be in a contest to see who can be the most "conservative". I can't even go to lunch around here without hearing some idiot repeating the Wood Country 108% myth.
 
2013-01-10 01:50:28 PM

urbangirl: QueenMamaBee: SuperT: I live in NKY. in reality, socialism wins here. everything in this state that isn't A)Lexington, B)Louisville or C)attached to cincy(me, yay) would wither and die without federal dollars. I don't know the numbers, but I'd guess that upwards of 50% of people in my city(newport) are on some sort of federal or state assistance.

there has been some backlash against McTurtle locally for his role in the fiscal cliff deal. they think he "failed in his conservative duty" or some other such derp.

I hope he gets primaried out by some tea tard who then loses to someone not insane or reptilian.

Amen. I live in Northeastern Ky, welfare central. 71% of kids at my son's school are eligible for free or reduced breakfast and lunch. Yet they alllllll vote Republican (the parents, not the kids, I think....). I was the only one in my entire neighborhood with an Obama yard sign (got it just to piss off the neighbors), and the only one with the "Ditch Mitch" card. Can't even pass a 3% utility levy for the school because the idiots don't want to better themselves.

/ready to head for Lexington where the derp is slightly less.

Live in Lexington. Pretty sure the derp is not, in fact, less.
Cant wait to get back to Louisville. Somebody give me a job!


You must underestimate the level of derp in this area. Lexington can't possibly be worse.

I only visit Louisville for Churchill Downs and Waverly Hills. I've not found the people too friendly in Louisville. It's like being in Indiana.
/bleah
 
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